[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Kim Hetzel]

Funny I was thinking about a map of indicating where are all our 
Rivendell brothers and sisters are located here two days ago. 

Thank-you very much for creating one, John. Look great !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 11:57:38 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> This is sic
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:45:26 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for setting this up John!
>>
>> John in Portland
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very cool, thank you for setting this up!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:40:02 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Pins are dropping!
 [image: Screen Shot 2023-03-11 at 2.37.15 PM.png]

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that 
> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>
> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
> other, connect and plan rides.
>
> Here's a link to the site:
>
> Map of Rivendell Riders 
> 
>
> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>
> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>
> 1. Provide your address
>
> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>
> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>
> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait 
> for your pin to show up. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>


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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Guy LeVan]

We’re everywhere, We’re everywhere!  Thanks for setting this up - really 
cool!

Guy

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:54:37 AM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Funny I was thinking about a map of indicating where are all our 
> Rivendell brothers and sisters are located here two days ago. 
>
> Thank-you very much for creating one, John. Look great !
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 11:57:38 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> This is sic
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:45:26 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for setting this up John!
>>>
>>> John in Portland
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Very cool, thank you for setting this up!

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:40:02 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Pins are dropping!
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-03-11 at 2.37.15 PM.png]
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
>> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map 
>> that 
>> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>>
>> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
>> other, connect and plan rides.
>>
>> Here's a link to the site:
>>
>> Map of Rivendell Riders 
>> 
>>
>> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
>> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>>
>> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>>
>> 1. Provide your address
>>
>> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>>
>> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>>
>> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and 
>> wait for your pin to show up. 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
>> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB 27.5 wheelset

[Andrew Huston]

Looking for a set of wheels, preferably Cliffhangers but would consider 
other similar width rims. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

$1700 Frameset + shipping 
$650 Wheelset + shipping 

Just in case those are more appealing. Thanks for looking!


On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 3:48:25 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Bump, still for sale!
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:15:39 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi David! My PBH is 90.5 cm and the post in the picture had a Berthoud 
>> saddle at a fuzz over 30.5” if that helps. I don’t want a longer stem than 
>> 135 so I think an XL would have fit me better. Arm length and whether you 
>> will run a swept back bar makes a big difference in fit. If I was running a 
>> more regular say 30 degree sweep bar, then the Large is probably a perfect 
>> fit with the 85mm stem. I think the XL would work with either bar with the 
>> right stem though. 
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:04:40 AM UTC-8 David Wadstrup wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sadly, buying this beautiful bike is not currently an option for me. 
>>>  But, I was wondering if anyone could offer what they think would be a max 
>>> pbh for this large frame.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:49:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Bump. $3000 +shipping. 

 Rich built WI hub wheelset.
 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
 Nitto S65 seatpost.
 DXR brakes and levers. 
 2.5” Teravail Ehline
 Silver cranks.
 Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.

 On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Thanks Joe! Over the last few years I just haven’t seen them sit very 
> often. At least I don’t “need” to sell it. Spring time and tax return 
> season is coming. Haha. 
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:37:04 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Great bike, great color, it's just kind of a niche within the Riv 
>> niche so it'll take a while to find the right buyer. Spring is coming! 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:54:38 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Keith, I appreciate that! I feel like it’s a pretty good 
>>> deal so I’m happy to hear I’m not totally crazy there. Not in a rush 
>>> for 
>>> now but if it keeps sitting here I’m going to start riding it again 
>>> soon! I 
>>> took the saddle of to help temptation.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't 
 entertain low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best size, 
 best 
 color, best wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just needs 
 to 
 realize it.  I wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to my 
 orange 
 one.  Someone is going to be very happy though


 On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 
 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new Jim 
> 13-42 cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the other. Bike is ready 
> to go!
>
> Asking $3000 +shipping OBO
>
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
> wrote:
>
>> Frameset: $1700 + Shipping  (size large dark gold)
>>
>> Wheels: $650 + Shipping (Rich built Cliffhangers with WI hubs)
>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’d definitely prefer to just sell this complete so offers are 
>>> welcome! I will entertain offers on the frameset or wheels as well 
>>> though. 
>>> People have asked but the offer has to be reasonable. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:29:10 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 I decided not to sell the SimWorks Sugar built wheels so I 
 thought I’d post some pictures of it right now. In the middle of 
 cleaning 
 the drivetrain so that’s why the cassette and chain are off. I was 
 going to 
 swap the brake levers for the Shimano DXR to match the brakes and 
 lower the 
 price. (Ran out of time so the Paul levers are still pictured)

 Rich built WI hub wheelset.
 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
 Nitto S65 seatpost.
 DXR brakes and levers. 
 2.5” Teravail Ehline
 Silver cranks.
 Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.

 Asking $3250 + shipping 

 On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:38:48 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
 wrote:

> Bumping this back up. I’m flexible on some build options so 
> let me know if there is any interest! 
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:05:40 A

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[John Rinker]

Thanks to all who are contributing to the Map of Rivendell Riders. It's 
growing!

Please remember that, if you wish to provide your address, it should 
include your city and state as well. Otherwise, I'm not sure Google maps 
can place a pin for you. And, if you don't want to provide your address you 
can use map coordinates, but you don't actually have to write the words 
Lat. and Long. These you can just copy from a nearby place on Google maps.

Cheers,
John

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 7:11:07 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> We’re everywhere, We’re everywhere!  Thanks for setting this up - really 
> cool!
>
> Guy
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:54:37 AM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Funny I was thinking about a map of indicating where are all our 
>> Rivendell brothers and sisters are located here two days ago. 
>>
>> Thank-you very much for creating one, John. Look great !
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 11:57:38 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> This is sic
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:45:26 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for setting this up John!

 John in Portland

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very cool, thank you for setting this up!
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:40:02 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Pins are dropping!
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-03-11 at 2.37.15 PM.png]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
>>> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map 
>>> that 
>>> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>>>
>>> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find 
>>> each other, connect and plan rides.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to the site:
>>>
>>> Map of Rivendell Riders 
>>> 
>>>
>>> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and 
>>> manually updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>>>
>>> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>>>
>>> 1. Provide your address
>>>
>>> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>>>
>>> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>>>
>>> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and 
>>> wait for your pin to show up. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
>>> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a gathering 
as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable date I’d be 
happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like the biggest 
hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would probably work 
for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted to avoid July 4. 
Not quite as many tourists here then.

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger Warning: 
> Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and would 
> be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The Asheville 
> metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade (from 282,000 to 
> 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million annual visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road riding 
> pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent Creek) has 
> become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can be a challenge, 
> especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the Pisgah National Forest 
> are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to Bent Tree Gap  and 
> descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring your lights).  Ample (& 
> secure) parking is available at the NC Arboretum for $20 per vehicle. I 
> have an annual membership and could transport up to 4 bikes and three 
> passengers. 
>
> As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts District is 
> pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to stop for food 
> and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. There are some 
> opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods on fairly quiet 
> streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park (with a tent area) that 
> the western end of the River Greenway. runs right through.
>
>  I do not recommend planning a gathering for a holiday weekend ---  or any 
> time in the month of October.  
>
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:01:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I know 
>> Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  I ride fully loaded and am 
>> not into hiking a bike.  Mine is too heavy.  I think we should shoot for a 
>> ride in Asheville at the end of June 
>> For those who want to do Wilson Creek would y'all want to a 2 part Riv 
>> event so people could choose one or the other or both?  I hope this pans 
>> out.  I'd love to see all these bikes.
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:02:32 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and one other detail I forgot to mention is that there's a really 
>>> nice campground at Bent Creek - although it fills up pretty quickly in the 
>>> summer. Lots of chain hotels around Bent Creek too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about 1.5 
 hrs from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire roads 
 and 
 mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is connected to 
 the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about perfect 
 for a riv. It's also only about 15 min from downtown Asheville.   There's 
 also a growing urban bike trail that includes roads, bike paths, and 
 breweries lacing through town that is a fun way to get to know the town 
 (and the beer). And, a new bike store named "Gravelo" just opened in town 
 and although they don't sell rivs, they are very familiar with them and 
 always ooh and aah appropriately when me and my other riv pals go in 
 there. 
 They are really a great group!  That's my. $.02!

 On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:

> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national 
> forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its 
> a 
> 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow 
> singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but 
> those are downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with 
> paper maps, so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the 
> MTB project website - "yancey ridge" 
>  to use their 
> map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at 
> Beacon 
> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 19

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[lconley]

Thank you.

Laing
All alone in Florida for the time being.

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 3:59:58 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 'Unicycle 
> Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that Riv Riders 
> can now populate with your location. 
>
> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
> other, connect and plan rides.
>
> Here's a link to the site:
>
> Map of Rivendell Riders 
> 
>
> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>
> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>
> 1. Provide your address
>
> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>
> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>
> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait for 
> your pin to show up. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect Google 
> forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>

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[RBW] FS: Cool Vintage Components (Sugino, Suntour, Shimano)

[Eliot B]

I have some excellent condition (some NOS) vintage bits if anyone is 
interested.

Prices are based off of recent eBay sales. If my prices are off feel free 
to make me an offer.

Shimano 6206 (50/44/28) 165mm crankset - NOS 
Came with Shimano 600ex (Ultegra) and Deerhead (XT) groups
Your choice of the NOS biopace rings or good condition Sugino (52/40/28)- 
$120


Rhode Flickstand: $30 NIB


Suntour Cyclone GT (1st Gen): $120 looks NOS but no packaging. 

Suntour V: $30?


Sugino Super Maxy: $175

Extra Arm: $50

Sugino BB tools: $30


Zoom Lightweight 26.6 seatpost: $30


photos: https://www.flickr.com/gp/47833614@N04/0tv7er2CPE


Cheers,


Eliot





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[RBW] Re: “Pink Flamingo” gearing with Sora-Ace 9 speed cassette

[Bill Eberle in Portland OR]

Well done. I'll be saving this for future reference. "Pink Flamingo" is 
icing on the cake.

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 9:45:22 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Last year I was riding a single speed Mystery Bike on the levees here in 
> south Florida, this year it will be a 2x9 Rosco Bubbe V1. Analog calls 
> their wide ratio gearing "Turkey Vulture"; in keeping with the two word, 
> four syllable avian theme, I will call this "Pink Flamingo” gearing. Here 
> in South Florida, gearing is used to compensate for wind direction, not 
> terrain, so close ratio is the name of the game. 
>
> I combined the 1st 6 corncob cogs of a 14-25 Sora 9 speed CS-HG50-9 
> cassette (14-15-16-17-18-19) with the last 3 cog section of a Dura-Ace 9 
> speed CS-7700 cassette (21-24-27 titanium cogs on aluminum carrier) to get 
> my Sora-Ace 14-27 cassette. I used all Dura-Ace aluminum spacers instead of 
> the plastic Sora spacers. Probably would be just fine with the stock Sora 
> 14-25, but now I can call it “Sora-Ace” and it saved 40 grams while adding 
> a lower low.
>
> Crankset is a VO Drillium 34-48 (110 BCD). The result is 34 to 93 inch 
> gearing – most important to me is the 51, 54 , 57, 61, 66 on the small 
> front chainring for riding against the wind, and the 62, 68, 72, 76, 81 on 
> the large chainring for riding with the wind. I don’t ride very fast. The 
> 34 x 27 (34 inch gear) is handy for the short but quite steep slope to get 
> from the parking lot onto the levee.
>
> Rear derailleur is a 9 speed Dura-Ace RD-7700 (beautiful used condition 
> from eBay for a very reasonable price) and front derailleur is an NOS 7 
> speed Shimano RX-100. I did have to file a small notch in the front 
> derailleur to clear the water bottle boss to allow the front derailleur to 
> mount low enough for best shifting. Dura-Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters on 
> Paul Thumbies handle the index shifting.
>
> The chain, like on most of my bikes, is an ultrasonically cleaned and 
> Molten Speed Waxed stainless steel Wippermann 9 speed.
>
> [image: Sora-Ace.jpg]
>
>
> Laing
>
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] Re: Seat Post Slippage

[brizbarn]

I had the same problem with my Appaloosa.  I did not grease the binder bolt 
at the head, or the threads. It slipped on my first ride, then broke when 
trying to tighten it down more.  I had an extra nut and bolt at home that I 
grease in both spots, and it has held tight since.  Something easy to 
overlook on a build.  
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:35:00 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:

> Update - I put some park tool super grip on there for a little extra 
> stickiness. Anyone have experience with this stuff? Do you just use this 
> alone on a seat post or is it combined with some grease on the lower part 
> of the post? 
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 7:57:02 AM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> Whelp greasing the clamp bolt worked, much to my amazement, which will at 
>> least hold me over until the nitto seat post and carbon paste shows up. One 
>> of the great things about bikes is one tiny thing can make all the 
>> difference. And one of the great things about this group is all the 
>> knowledge to be shared.
>>
>> Speaking of greasing the bolts, here is the new sam waiting at the 
>> swinging bridge over the Duwamish River this morning. Those in the Seattle 
>> area know that this bridge was recently closed to replace a hydraulic 
>> cylinder that allows the bridge to swing open. This is the main bike route 
>> out of West Seattle and it was a major pain to commute with it out of 
>> commission. Thankfully it's back in action!
>> [image: Image.jpeg]
>> [image: Image (3).jpeg]
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:23:56 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yup. I worked with Rivendell on my kalloy seatpost that came with the 
>>> Roadini slipping. Greased the binder bolt, etc. Darn thing still slipped, 
>>> and in any case that kalloy would never stay level (I guess I know why all 
>>> those pictures of Rivendell bikes have saddles pointed upwards!). I gave up 
>>> and bought a Thomson Elite masterpiece and never had a problem since. The 
>>> Thompson also had the advantage of being a 2 bolt seatpost that's 
>>> infinitely adjustable and doesn't nose itself upwards.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have any issues with the stock seat post (the one included with 
 the frame) slipping with the latest sam frames? Happened to me on my first 
 shakedown ride yesterday. 

 I have a new nitto stem and some park tool supergrip on the way but was 
 curious if anyone else experienced this. Or if there's any advice on using 
 the park tool super grip?




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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Steve]

Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit quieter as 
well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   

I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 

Anyone want to weigh in?

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a gathering 
> as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable date I’d be 
> happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like the biggest 
> hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would probably work 
> for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted to avoid July 4. 
> Not quite as many tourists here then.
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger Warning: 
>> Long Post.
>>
>> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and would 
>> be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The Asheville 
>> metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade (from 282,000 to 
>> 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million annual visitors. 
>>
>> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
>> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that were 
>> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>>
>> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road riding 
>> pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent Creek) has 
>> become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can be a challenge, 
>> especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the Pisgah National Forest 
>> are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to Bent Tree Gap  and 
>> descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring your lights).  Ample (& 
>> secure) parking is available at the NC Arboretum for $20 per vehicle. I 
>> have an annual membership and could transport up to 4 bikes and three 
>> passengers. 
>>
>> As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts District 
>> is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to stop for 
>> food and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. There are 
>> some opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods on fairly 
>> quiet streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park (with a tent 
>> area) that the western end of the River Greenway. runs right through.
>>
>>  I do not recommend planning a gathering for a holiday weekend ---  or 
>> any time in the month of October.  
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:01:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I know 
>>> Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  I ride fully loaded and am 
>>> not into hiking a bike.  Mine is too heavy.  I think we should shoot for a 
>>> ride in Asheville at the end of June 
>>> For those who want to do Wilson Creek would y'all want to a 2 part Riv 
>>> event so people could choose one or the other or both?  I hope this pans 
>>> out.  I'd love to see all these bikes.
>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:02:32 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Oh, and one other detail I forgot to mention is that there's a really 
 nice campground at Bent Creek - although it fills up pretty quickly in the 
 summer. Lots of chain hotels around Bent Creek too.


 On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about 
> 1.5 hrs from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire 
> roads 
> and mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is 
> connected 
> to the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about 
> perfect 
> for a riv. It's also only about 15 min from downtown Asheville.   There's 
> also a growing urban bike trail that includes roads, bike paths, and 
> breweries lacing through town that is a fun way to get to know the town 
> (and the beer). And, a new bike store named "Gravelo" just opened in town 
> and although they don't sell rivs, they are very familiar with them and 
> always ooh and aah appropriately when me and my other riv pals go in 
> there. 
> They are really a great group!  That's my. $.02!
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>
>> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national 
>> forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. 
>> Its a 
>> 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow 
>> singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Patrick Moore]

John Rinker: Thank you, fun map!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Brian Turner]

Yes, thank you! This is great. I’m hoping this will open up a whole new level of interaction and adventure among us RBW owners!On Mar 12, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:John Rinker: Thank you, fun map!



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[RBW] Re: FS: Cool Vintage Components (Sugino, Suntour, Shimano)

[John Rinker]

Eliot,

I'd be interested in the Suntour V derailleur. Is it a long cage?

Cheers, John

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:18:37 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have some excellent condition (some NOS) vintage bits if anyone is 
> interested.
>
> Prices are based off of recent eBay sales. If my prices are off feel free 
> to make me an offer.
>
> Shimano 6206 (50/44/28) 165mm crankset - NOS 
> Came with Shimano 600ex (Ultegra) and Deerhead (XT) groups
> Your choice of the NOS biopace rings or good condition Sugino (52/40/28)- 
> $120
>
>
> Rhode Flickstand: $30 NIB
>
>
> Suntour Cyclone GT (1st Gen): $120 looks NOS but no packaging. 
>
> Suntour V: $30?
>
>
> Sugino Super Maxy: $175
>
> Extra Arm: $50
>
> Sugino BB tools: $30
>
>
> Zoom Lightweight 26.6 seatpost: $30
>
>
> photos: https://www.flickr.com/gp/47833614@N04/0tv7er2CPE
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Eliot
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95”

[Conway Bennett]

Bumping this.  Despite early interest, these tires are still available.

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 2:24:22 PM UTC-6 Conway Bennett wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I just replied again directly, so my DMs may be going to Spam.  
> Regardless, they are yours.
>
> I still have new 26" Gravel King tires available, a brand new Handsome 
> built 26" Velocity Dyad wheelset, and 59 cm 1994 Bridgestone XO-3 that are 
> up for grabs.
>
> I'm keeping just 3 bikes--650b Hunqapillar, Crust Canti Bolt, and BMC 
> Monstecross.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 1:42 PM iamkeith  wrote:
>
>>
>> I tried sending a PM from my phone, but am not sure it went through.  
>> Maybe you could send me one?  I didn't mean to jamb this up and block 
>> others indefinitely.  I just won't be at a proper computer for a few days.
>>
>> Also, I was after the pair of simworks tires - not the single gravel king 
>> tire.  That one is great, for anybody looking.  It's too big for my bike, 
>> too.  I'm just looking for the goldilox size like the OP
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:48:32 AM UTC-10 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to buy them. Im traveling, but look for a PM.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 4:16:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Great price on a really great tire! I have the 27.5” x 55 on my Clem & 
 they are so nice. Possible to dismiss these as “fashion” tires but they 
 are 
 so much more. And that color is awesome.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 22, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Conway Bennett  
 wrote:

 All,


 I just picked these up, and clearances are too tight.  $105 net to me 
 shipped in the lower 48.  I also have Gravel King 26 x 2.1 new in the 
 package for $106 net to me shipped in the lower 48.

 From the seller:

 "Simworks Homage 26” x 1.95” MTB tire Limited Color.

 Panaracer Simworks Homage 26”x1.95”

 This particular color was a limited run and no longer available.

 Tires were ridden a few miles on the road but never in dirt or mud. No 
 holes."

 Images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/cAV48vkVSoqMKqkM6


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[DavidP]

Nicely done, John!

-Dave

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:33:08 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, thank you! This is great. I’m hoping this will open up a whole new 
> level of interaction and adventure among us RBW owners!
>
> On Mar 12, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> John Rinker: Thank you, fun map!
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[RBW] California bike route advice - Lompoc to Santa Barbara

[Jim S.]

Hi all, 

This is a shot in the dark given the late notice, but tomorrow my son and I 
are going to ride, as the title says, from Lompoc to Santa Barbara. I'm 
wondering if anyone has an opinion on the best route? 

Adventure Cycling has us taking California 1 south to Gaviota Beach, and 
then following 1/101 along the ocean into Santa Barbara.

For whatever reason, Google Maps hates that route. It wants us taking 246 
through Solvang and Santa Ynez. 

I guess my primary concern is safety. Has anyone ridden either of these 
lately?  

Any thoughts appreciated.

thanks in advance.

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[RBW] FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Conway Bennett]

I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and swapped 
for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  It's in 
excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and shipping.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cool Vintage Components (Sugino, Suntour, Shimano)

[Mike Godwin]

I like the Sugino Mighty / Super models. The one you show is the swaged 
version, it appears anyway from your photos. Dare I say, the asking price 
is high for a swaged crank.

Mike "not always a bottom feeder" SLO CA

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:18:37 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have some excellent condition (some NOS) vintage bits if anyone is 
> interested.
>
> Prices are based off of recent eBay sales. If my prices are off feel free 
> to make me an offer.
>
> Shimano 6206 (50/44/28) 165mm crankset - NOS 
> Came with Shimano 600ex (Ultegra) and Deerhead (XT) groups
> Your choice of the NOS biopace rings or good condition Sugino (52/40/28)- 
> $120
>
>
> Rhode Flickstand: $30 NIB
>
>
> Suntour Cyclone GT (1st Gen): $120 looks NOS but no packaging. 
>
> Suntour V: $30?
>
>
> Sugino Super Maxy: $175
>
> Extra Arm: $50
>
> Sugino BB tools: $30
>
>
> Zoom Lightweight 26.6 seatpost: $30
>
>
> photos: https://www.flickr.com/gp/47833614@N04/0tv7er2CPE
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Eliot
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: California bike route advice - Lompoc to Santa Barbara

[Mike Godwin]

Have not ridden that route since 1986, but 246, and I suspect to 154, ya'll 
got a big hill there. But an awesome downhill to Goleta. 101 has OK 
shoulders except at the bridges. 

Mike SLO CA

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:20:21 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> This is a shot in the dark given the late notice, but tomorrow my son and 
> I are going to ride, as the title says, from Lompoc to Santa Barbara. I'm 
> wondering if anyone has an opinion on the best route? 
>
> Adventure Cycling has us taking California 1 south to Gaviota Beach, and 
> then following 1/101 along the ocean into Santa Barbara.
>
> For whatever reason, Google Maps hates that route. It wants us taking 246 
> through Solvang and Santa Ynez. 
>
> I guess my primary concern is safety. Has anyone ridden either of these 
> lately?  
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
>
> thanks in advance.
>

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Re: [RBW] California bike route advice - Lompoc to Santa Barbara

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not lately, but I’ve ridden that same route many times. I love it. Leaving Lompoc on San Julian Road, there’s about 20 miles of gentle uphill, followed by a great downhill to Gaviota. The coast highway is busy, but the shoulder is wide. I’ve never had a problem. Keep in mind that there are very few opportunities for water or food between Lompoc and Santa Barbara. The rest stop at Gaviota is the best place to water up. –Eric NOn Mar 12, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Jim S.  wrote:Hi all, This is a shot in the dark given the late notice, but tomorrow my son and I are going to ride, as the title says, from Lompoc to Santa Barbara. I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion on the best route? Adventure Cycling has us taking California 1 south to Gaviota Beach, and then following 1/101 along the ocean into Santa Barbara.For whatever reason, Google Maps hates that route. It wants us taking 246 through Solvang and Santa Ynez. I guess my primary concern is safety. Has anyone ridden either of these lately?  Any thoughts appreciated.thanks in advance.



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Re: [RBW] FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Conway Bennett]

I also have a Nitto UI-12 Quill Stem, (31.8) 71 Deg X 100mm Silver that
pairs nicely with this bar assuming you have a shim.  $69 net to me shipped
in the lower 48.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
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> I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and
> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.
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Re: [RBW] California bike route advice - Lompoc to Santa Barbara

[Matthew Williams]

I too have been planning a ride along that route, and I found these plans for a 
bike path/trail connecting Guadalupe to Gaviota. I haven’t found anyone who’s 
ridden it, nor have I been able to determine its status: is it open, planned, 
proposed, or just a study?

What’s the story? Does anyone know?

https://sbctc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/Cascade/index.html?appid=582b8161b341417bbf716ca624079c1d&folderid=e92a2962e2f94525b0c34a3878c09385

> On Mar 12, 2023, at 7:58 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not lately, but I’ve ridden that same route many times. I love it. 
> 
> Leaving Lompoc on San Julian Road, there’s about 20 miles of gentle uphill, 
> followed by a great downhill to Gaviota. 
> 
> The coast highway is busy, but the shoulder is wide. I’ve never had a 
> problem. 
> 
> Keep in mind that there are very few opportunities for water or food between 
> Lompoc and Santa Barbara. The rest stop at Gaviota is the best place to water 
> up. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Jim S.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> This is a shot in the dark given the late notice, but tomorrow my son and I 
>> are going to ride, as the title says, from Lompoc to Santa Barbara. I'm 
>> wondering if anyone has an opinion on the best route? 
>> 
>> Adventure Cycling has us taking California 1 south to Gaviota Beach, and 
>> then following 1/101 along the ocean into Santa Barbara.
>> 
>> For whatever reason, Google Maps hates that route. It wants us taking 246 
>> through Solvang and Santa Ynez. 
>> 
>> I guess my primary concern is safety. Has anyone ridden either of these 
>> lately?  
>> 
>> Any thoughts appreciated.
>> 
>> thanks in advance.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 55 cm Bosco Bar

[Joe Bernard]

Am I misunderstanding the post or is the bar $81 plus shipping? That's the 
new price from Riv. 

On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 7:56:12 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a lightly used 55 cm Bosco Bar I took off my wife's bike and 
> swapped for my Albatross setup.  $81 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  
> It's in excellent condition,so my pitch is that you save tax and shipping.

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