Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Garth]

That's some nice looking kickstand Ken !  Everything looks good all sparkly 
-) 

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

I am waiting on the video to come out ...

Kim. 

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:59:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>>
>> How'd you do that?
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said 
>>> to myself "never again!" 
>>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>>
>>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>>
>>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a 
 few times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher 
 Touring 
 and the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. 
 I'm Team Swoopy! 

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one 
> and would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't 
> like 
> a noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to 
> see 
> pictures of what you decide.  
>
> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
> know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
> know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>
>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
>> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic 
>> skills!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Ken Yokanovich]

For what it is worth- those similarly inclined to try to polish their 
kickstands.  There are lots of rough spots and irregularities to surface 
including a seam from where they are cast. I used a flat file to smooth out 
the seam and a palm sander to sand the surface smooth before attempting the 
polish. It's messy work so recommend gloves and a face-mask. I used a 
progression of sandpaper from 220/400/600/1000/2000. After the 2000 the 
surface can easily be buffed to a mirror finish by hand using an aluminum 
polish like Mothers Aluminum Polish, or use a buffing wheel to make the 
process quicker. 

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:38:04 AM UTC-6 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I did mine this morning at work. I used a big polishing lathe (3,000 rpm 
> 10HP) and a 14” color buff wheel. I used white rouge but probably would 
> have used a red to get a little more cut. One thing to keep in mind is that 
> a color buff will snatch the part from your hands. I could have done a 
> better job near the top but I didn’t feel the risk was worth it. If you are 
> using a bench top set up then there’s much less risk. It will still want to 
> grab though so be careful. 
>  
> All in all I’m happy with the results. Probably never do it again as I’m 
> not a clean your bike kind of person. 
>
> -Jacob
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am waiting on the video to come out ...
>
> Kim. 
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:59:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>>>
>>> How'd you do that?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>>
 I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said 
 to myself "never again!" 
 [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]

 But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
 [image: Kickstand.jpg]

 In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
 found myself polishing another Greenfield.

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a 
> few times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher 
> Touring 
> and the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the 
> PDW. 
> I'm Team Swoopy! 
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one 
>> and would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't 
>> like 
>> a noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's 
>> more 
>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to 
>> see 
>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>
>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
>> know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
>> know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>
>>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
>>> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic 
>>> skills!
>>>
>>> Jared
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 2023 March 1 Bikes for sale thread: Craigslist etc.

[Mitch]

51cm Appaloosa Frameset
Los Angeles ,CA
$1,500
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/santa-monica-rivendell-appaloosa-51cm/7595081671.html
On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:44:16 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Such a dreamy build…
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 7:23:03 PM UTC-8 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Starting with this Legolas in Portland that I've thought about buying 
>> myself:
>>
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7591649041.html
>>
>> Full build details are available here:
>>
>> https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d
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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Michael Iauch]

I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
website - "yancey ridge" 
 to use their map of 
the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 

Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
 in 
Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
 along the 
route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 

late may? june? 



On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:

> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>>
>>> River
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>>
 I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, but 
 my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to ride in 
 the area with other Riv-folk.

 Best,
 Eric 
 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:

> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>
> Dick
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for 
>> a Riv-ride" column...
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>
>>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
>>> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than 
>>> me as 
>>> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
>>> that 
>>> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>>>
>>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as far 
>>> away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants to 
>>> stay 
>>> overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of floorspace for 
>>> those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat little 
>>> 50's 
>>> style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including backcountry 
>>> in 
>>> the Pisgah National Forest. 
>>>
>>> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
>>> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body 
>>> feels at the time. 
>>>
>>> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
>>> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
>>> Parkway 
>>> which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle 
>>> service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every 
>>> few 
>>> miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation 
>>> along 
>>> the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and back 
>>> from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you 
>>> wanted 
>>> to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be a 
>>> hard ride. 
>>>
>>> What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this 
>>> thread or do we start a new one?
>>>
>>> Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot and 
>>> humid. Plus, we are in a temperate rain forest so it rains a lot. 
>>>
>>> Had no idea my post looking for Rivs in the area would generate this 
>>> kinda response. It's great!!!
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 
>>> steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Dick, just saying "thank you" for kicking off this thread. 
 Interesting to see the number of Riv riders in the area.

 If you ever take a notion to organize a Brevard area ride for Riv 
 riders (and Riv curious, like myself) 

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[lconley]

June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.

Laing

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:

> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
> website - "yancey ridge" 
>  to use their map 
> of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>
> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>  in 
> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>  along the 
> route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>
> late may? june? 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
>> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
>> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>>>
 Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.

 River

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:

> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
> ride 
> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>
>> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for 
>>> a Riv-ride" column...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
 (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than 
 me as 
 she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
 that 
 well. Could be wrong about that. 

 Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
 far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants 
 to 
 stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
 floorspace 
 for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
 little 
 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
 backcountry 
 in the Pisgah National Forest. 

 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
 various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body 
 feels at the time. 

 Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
 could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
 Parkway 
 which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle 
 service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every 
 few 
 miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation 
 along 
 the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and 
 back 
 from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you 
 wanted 
 to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be 
 a 
 hard ride. 

 What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this 
 thread or do we start a new one?

 Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot 
 and humid. Plus, we are in a temperate rain forest so it rains a lot. 

 Had no idea my post looking for Rivs in the area would generate 
 this kinda response. It's great!!!

 Dick



 On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 
 steve...@gmail.

[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Essentials: On Finding Goldilocks

[John Rinker]

Hey Jeff,

If you resumed your ride in Montana in July 2018, we must have passed each 
other along the way. I started in Banff in July 2018.

Your trip this summer sounds wonderful, and South America in the Fall? Very 
cool! Enjoy!

Cheers, John

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:32:31 PM UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> @John Rinker:
>
> For your GD loadout, it amazes me how much bikepackers have in common: our 
> list matches *almost *verbatim - down to the Sea to Summit eVent drybags 
> (and no, I'm pretty sure we didn't memo each other before heading out).  
> The make and model of other items might be different, but you get the 
> idea.  The 'essentials' are remarkably the same.  We, too are huge 
> believers in wool!!  A couple of things stood out, at least for us: we did 
> not bring dedicated cameras/equipment (used smartphones) or fishing gear 
> (we should have, in retrospect).  But, 99% the same.  
>
> We did the GD in 2017 NoBo (depart from Puerto Palomas/Columbus).  We left 
> in July and ran out of season upon getting to Butte, MT (snow).  Hit pause 
> and restarted from Butte in July 2018.  Life-changing, to say the least.  
> That is, so far, the only route I would do again in a heartbeat.  So 
> gorgeous.
>
> We too had a Big Agnes CopperSpur tent (loved it) but we actually *wore *it 
> out (it was used extensively until late last year - zippers failing).  I 
> love wearing out stuff.  We liked to call it a big mosquito net ;).  We 
> just got a  Durston X-Mid Pro 2 tent a few days ago.  Goodness gracious!  
> Talk about light!  We'll see how durable that tent is  Heading to the 
> UK, France (PBP-bound) and Spain this summer.  Then South America (Santiago 
> to Ushuaia) in November.  Back home by early April?
>
> Like you said, the variables change, so the Goldilocks list can be elusive!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:44:31 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Moving this over from Johnny's 'Fitting the Hunqapillar' thread and in 
>> response to Jay's inquiry about my essential packing list for touring. 
>>
>> Of course, some of it depends on the nature of the tour itself: climate, 
>> remoteness, and goals for the trip. For example, on the Great Divide, I 
>> packed my tenkara rod and for the Cabo loop, I swapped it out for a mask 
>> and snorkel. When I rode the Annapurna Circuit I didn't pack shelter or 
>> kitchen as I stayed in tea houses and ate dahl bat. 
>>
>> As examples, here are packing lists from the two very different trips 
>> mentioned above. 
>>
>> The Great Divide (2018) 
>> 
>>
>> The Cabo Loo (2023) 
>> 
>>
>> Sadly, the photos are the same, but the Cabo Loop list is more 
>> representative of what I've learned that I'd rather not be without on any 
>> journey. 
>>
>> The clothing in the Great Divide list was basically cut in half before I 
>> left- where there are 2s, I kept 1. I did retain both pairs of sandals- a 
>> small luxury after a long day in the saddle. Neither did I end up carrying 
>> so many water bottles, and I have since swapped out the MSR gravity filter 
>> for a Steri-Pen UV filter. 
>>
>> Didn't take my full spice kit on the Baja Divide because I'd planned to 
>> live on fish tacos the whole time (very tricky in the mountains!). I no 
>> longer take the Nikon as my iPhone 8 takes fine snaps, I leave the Garmin 
>> GPS as I use GaiaGPS on my device, and I've swapped out my tripod stool for 
>> a lighter Japanese folding stool. 
>>
>> I love my Big Agnes CopperSpur tent but wanted to spend some time getting 
>> good at setting up my Mountain Laurel Designs Trailstar tarp in the deep 
>> sand of Cabo where tent stakes are useless. 
>>
>> As far as essentials, hmm? My Marmot sleeping bag, a water bottle, my 
>> tool roll, down jacket, wool undies, bandanas, rain gear, and camp slops.
>>
>> Anyways, that's my thinking on packing on wilderness-focused tours. 
>>
>> I'd love to hear what you've gleaned from your experience and what you 
>> consider your essentials when heading into the mountains.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[EGNolan]

I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would work 
for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.

Eric

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>
>> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
>> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
>> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
>> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
>> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
>> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
>> website - "yancey ridge" 
>>  to use their map 
>> of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
>> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
>> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
>> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>>
>> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>>  in 
>> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
>> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>>  along the 
>> route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>>
>> late may? june? 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
>>> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
>>> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:

> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>
> River
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
>> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
>> ride 
>> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>
>>> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
 for a Riv-ride" column...

 On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:

> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than 
> me as 
> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
> that 
> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>
> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants 
> to 
> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
> floorspace 
> for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
> little 
> 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
> backcountry 
> in the Pisgah National Forest. 
>
> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old 
> body 
> feels at the time. 
>
> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
> Parkway 
> which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle 
> service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every 
> few 
> miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation 
> along 
> the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and 
> back 
> from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you 
> wanted 
> to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be 
> a 
> hard ride. 
>
> What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this 
> thread or do we start a new one?
>
> Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot 
> and humid. Plus, 

Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Garth]

Wy back in the 80's I'd take to painting bike parts and the lugs of my 
Stumpjumper with Testors Model paint. It was fun ! I often polished my 
Campy seatposts as sweat would do a number on them, but doing it by hand 
was an endless task. You know you start out thinking this will just 
take a few minutes hah hah  an hour later you wonder where and when 
to stop !   The painting was more fun colorful anyways. It's not done 
for anyone but yourself, for the joy of the joy of it ! 


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini Complete

[Mack Penner]

This Roadini is sold! Thanks to Kevin, and to Jared for the shout out!MackOn Mar 2, 2023, at 5:23 PM, JW  wrote:Smoking deal from a solid seller, someone jump on this!JaredOn Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:01:43 PM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote:2020 Orange Roadini, 61cm, complete sans pedals and saddle, $1200usd shipped to CONUS from Alberta, CanadaFrameset is in very good condition, a little over 300 miles on it. No issues to note, other than clarifying that this version of the frame maxes out at a 38mm tire. Otherwise, the build:Nitto Albatross Handlebar (mounted upside down these are excellent "alt drops")Nitto Technomic stem 110mmOury lock-on gripsMiscellaneous Newbaum'sDia-Compe SS6 brake leversTektro long reachersSilver shifter on the thumb mountGran Compe shifter on the downtubeStock seatpostMavic CXP Elite x Shimano wheelset700x32 Panaracer Gravel Kings (I think they called this colour "olive")Clipper/Sugino Crankset, 175mm arms, 50x34 (non-original chainrings)Deore rear derailerSunRace R90 front derailerShimano bbSurely I'm forgetting something, but that'll do for now. Questions? Ask away! I have more photos - if you're interested send me an email off-list and I'll turn the rest of the photo batch around, or take any additional photos you'd like to see. Cheers and thanks,Mack 



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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[RichS]

This could be quite the Riv Ride. Tossing my cycling cap in the ring!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:

> I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would work 
> for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>>
>>> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
>>> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
>>> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
>>> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
>>> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
>>> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
>>> website - "yancey ridge" 
>>>  to use their 
>>> map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
>>> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
>>> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
>>> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>>>
>>> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>>>  in 
>>> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
>>> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>>>  along 
>>> the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>>>
>>> late may? june? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>>>
 I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
 often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
 Asheville or Boone would be good with me!

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>
>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>
>> River
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
>>> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
>>> ride 
>>> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric 
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 Be happy to come up to Boone too. 

 Dick

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
> for a Riv-ride" column...
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle 
> wrote:
>
>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
>> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it 
>> than me as 
>> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
>> that 
>> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>>
>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
>> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody 
>> wants to 
>> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
>> floorspace 
>> for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
>> little 
>> 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
>> backcountry 
>> in the Pisgah National Forest. 
>>
>> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
>> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old 
>> body 
>> feels at the time. 
>>
>> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
>> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
>> Parkway 
>> which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle 
>> service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every 
>> few 
>> miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation 
>> along 
>> the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and 
>> back 
>> from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you 
>> wanted 
>> to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would 
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Junes]

This sounds great. If scheduling aligns, I’m down for a ride, too. I have family in NC — Piedmont area — and it’s an easy drive to the west. On Mar 3, 2023, at 18:31, RichS  wrote:This could be quite the Riv Ride. Tossing my cycling cap in the ring!Best,Rich in ATLOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would work for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.EricOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.LaingOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project website - "yancey ridge" to use their map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd in Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop along the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. late may? june? On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. Asheville or Boone would be good with me!On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.RiverOn Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to ride in the area with other Riv-folk.Best,Eric On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:Be happy to come up to Boone too. DickOn Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for a Riv-ride" column...On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than me as she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all that well. Could be wrong about that. Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants to stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of floorspace for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat little 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including backcountry in the Pisgah National Forest. 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body feels at the time. Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge Parkway which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every few miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation along the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and back from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you wanted to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be a hard ride. What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this thread or do we start a new one?Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot and humid. Plus, we are in a temperate rain forest so it rains a lot. Had no idea my post looking for Rivs in the area would generate this kinda response. It's great!!!DickOn Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Dick, just saying "thank you" for kicking off this thread. Interesting to see the number of Riv riders in the area.If you ever take a notion to organize a Brevard area ride for Riv riders (and Riv curious, like myself) I'd be interested. Between the Brevard paved greenway network, the dirt trail into the National Forest at Pisgah Forest and the breweries/eateries along the greenway - and whatever routes you Brevard locals keep secret - I bet a low key party pace ride could be a fun event. O

[RBW] Re: Parts 4 Sale - RH/Nitto/Sugino/SON/Paul/DT/TRP/MicroShift

['Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bumping this once again… The following parts are still available, thanks:


*Microshift SL-T10 Thumb Shifters - $75 *

-2/3 x 10 speed, Shimano road 

-L = friction 

-R = index or friction

-https://www.microshift.com/models/sl-t10/

-Pics - 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-7pBzp95G9CEqeWnFufqA4GZw_eoE4Lk?usp=sharing

*Rene Herse Antelope Hill Tires - $160 *

-700x55mm 

-Endurance + casing 

-Pair, 1x tire has only been mounted once w/sealant, 1x tire BNIB -
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx55-antelope-hill-tc/

Pics - 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Rf3G04u0NKU3VGW0POLx2LlwCXhydBO2?usp=sharing
*Schmidt SON Edelux II - $240*

-BNIB

-Hanging w/switch configuration

-
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/son-edelux-ii-generator-headlight-hanging/

Pics - 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VJZT-LUAl1cIZrNWH8KZjsqA4mnJiAw4?usp=share_link

*DT Swiss Campy Freehub Body & End Cap - $60*

-Used but in good condition w/minimal wear, both bearings spin smooth

-Fits 180, 240, 240s, & 350 hubs

-DT Part # - HWYABX00S1296S, 9/10/11 speed Campy freehub body & 
130mm/QR/drive side  cap

Pics - 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1h1zh1QxlF9RKcteLk17WvfnDRe6KA9Ez?usp=share_link

*TERMS:*

Prices are net to me, no trades please.

Items can be picked up, or shipped at buyer’s expense, from 98225.

I do my best to ensure parts are shipped within 48/hrs of receipt of 
payment.

Everything I’ve listed will fit in a USPS flat rate box, w/rates provided 
by pirateship.com.

I’m pretty agnostic on payment methods so long as it doesn’t contribute to 
me having to deal w/1099s; cash, Paypal F&F, Venmo F&F, Zelle, all work. 
I’m not willing to deal with the hassle and potential tax burden of 
accepting ‘Goods & Services’ payments w/the new IRS reporting threshold 
just to offload spare parts:

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/self-employment-taxes/paypal-and-venmo-taxes-what-you-need-to-know-about-p2p-platforms/L5DNjOUM1

Please PM me if you’ve a question or are interested in anything.

Thanks


*SOLD:*

Rene Herse UD-1 Rack

TRP Levers

Paul Neo-Retro Canti

Paul Thumbies

Nitto M-13 Rack

Rene Herse CP-1 Rack

Sugino OX901 Crankset


On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 6:25:36 PM UTC-8 Sean, PNW wrote:

> Bumping this up... This is what's still available, thanks:
>
>
> TRP RRL-SR Levers - $65
>
> -Used but in good condition 
>
> - https://trpcycling.com/product/rrl-sr/
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ahk0PTeq6rCcutYlsYggNSWUT35rWPJw?usp=share_link
>
>
> Microshift SL-T10 Thumb Shifters - $75 
>
> -2/3 x 10 speed, Shimano road 
>
> -L = friction 
>
> -R = index or friction
>
> -https://www.microshift.com/models/sl-t10/
>
> -Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-7pBzp95G9CEqeWnFufqA4GZw_eoE4Lk?usp=sharing
>
> Rene Herse UD-1, Standard Struts - $185 
>
> -Used but in very good condition 
>
> -Adjustable mounting points, w/longer struts available from RH 
>
> -10 kg (22 lb) load rated -
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/racks/rene-herse-ud-1-disc/
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZN_guFpHhKwBSHXI89expGdVdYFwrZH6?usp=sharing
>
> Rene Herse Antelope Hill Tires - $160 
>
> -700x55mm 
>
> -Endurance + casing 
>
> -Pair, 1x tire has only been mounted once w/sealant, 1x tire BNIB -
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx55-antelope-hill-tc/
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Rf3G04u0NKU3VGW0POLx2LlwCXhydBO2?usp=sharing
>
> Schmidt SON Edelux II - $240
>
> -BNIB
>
> -Hanging w/switch configuration
>
> -
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/son-edelux-ii-generator-headlight-hanging/
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VJZT-LUAl1cIZrNWH8KZjsqA4mnJiAw4?usp=share_link
>
> DT Swiss Campy Freehub Body & End Cap - $60
>
> -Used but in good condition w/minimal wear, both bearings spin smooth
>
> -Fits 180, 240, 240s, & 350 hubs
>
> -DT Part # - HWYABX00S1296S, 9/10/11 speed Campy freehub body & 
> 130mm/QR/drive side  cap
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1h1zh1QxlF9RKcteLk17WvfnDRe6KA9Ez?usp=share_link
>
> Terms:
>
> Prices are net to me, no trades please.
>
> Items can be picked up, or shipped at buyer’s expense, from 98225.
>
> I do my very best to ensure parts are shipped within 48/hrs of receipt of 
> payment.
>
> Everything I’ve listed will fit in a USPS flat rate box, w/rates provided 
> by pirateship.com.
>
> I’m pretty agnostic on payment methods so long as it doesn’t contribute to 
> me having to deal w/1099s; cash, Paypal F&F, Venmo F&F, Zelle, all work. 
> I’m not willing to deal with the hassle and potential tax burden of 
> accepting ‘Goods & Services’ payments w/the new IRS reporting threshold 
> just to offload spare parts:
>
>
> https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/self-employment-taxes/paypal-and-venmo-taxes-what-you-need-to-know-about-p2p-platforms/L5DNjOUM1
>
> Please PM me if 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Steve]

Turns out I've been thinking about a ride in that Wilson Creek area for 
awhile now - just haven't had a chance to pull it off. If the date(s) work 
I'd love to be included! 
On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:17:08 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> This sounds great. If scheduling aligns, I’m down for a ride, too. I have 
> family in NC — Piedmont area — and it’s an easy drive to the west. 
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 18:31, RichS  wrote:
>
> This could be quite the Riv Ride. Tossing my cycling cap in the ring!
>
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would 
>> work for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>>>
 I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national 
 forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its 
 a 
 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow 
 singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but 
 those are downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with 
 paper maps, so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the 
 MTB project website - "yancey ridge" 
  to use their 
 map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at 
 Beacon 
 Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
 gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house 
 gap 
 rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 

 Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
  in 
 Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
 me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
  along 
 the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 

 late may? june? 



 On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:

> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>>
>>> River
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>>
 I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
 but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
 ride 
 in the area with other Riv-folk.

 Best,
 Eric 
 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:

> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>
> Dick
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 
> fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
>> for a Riv-ride" column...
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
>>> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it 
>>> than me as 
>>> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
>>> that 
>>> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>>>
>>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
>>> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody 
>>> wants to 
>>> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
>>> floorspace 
>>> for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
>>> little 
>>> 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
>>> backcountry 
>>> in the Pisgah National Forest. 
>>>
>>> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
>>> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old 
>>> body 
>>> feels at the time. 
>>>
>>> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
>>> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
>

[RBW] Re: Fitting the Hunqapillar for touring

[Hoch in ut]

Hi, some great looking Hunq’s. Can someone with a 58 please measure the 
seat tube length? Center to Top of the seat tube? Thank you! 

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 4:05:16 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

>
> Johnny,
>
> No, no real structural reason for the change, just an aesthetic decision. 
> Or, maybe because I moved the light to the dropout. That rack is a Nitto 
> R14 that 
> I bought at BlueLug in Tokyo, and it's very well-built. It's similar to the 
> RBW51 on the Riv site (a little more svelte, I believe). It is entirely 
> adequate for Sackville support plus the sleeping bag, and much lighter than 
> my Big Rack 33R from Riv. 
>
> Jay, 
>
> Yes, I've been fortunate to ride in some pretty special places. Perhaps 
> rather than hijack Johnny's thread here I'll start a new thread "Jay's 
> Goldilocks Packing List" or some such and share a couple of my packing 
> lists. Perhaps there you could also share your 10 Bikepacking Essentials. 
>
> John M,
>
> I agree with Johnny, that dusty Hunq (on the Divide?) photo is sweet!
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:18:33 AM UTC-8 johnny@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I was hoping for some advice, but I got that and a bunch of awesome 
>> photos. Just wow ya'll. And so many hunqapillars crawling around :) I'm 
>> hearing a lighter rear rack and a larger trunk should do me nicely until i 
>> get more serious. I'll see what I can find in terms of a sackville or 
>> similar. John, comparing the two photos of your gorgeous blue hunq, it 
>> looks like you changed the strut position of the rear rack from the lower 
>> mount to a mid-mount. Any reason for that? 
>>
>> John H your dirty bike looks rad. 
>>
>> Edit, sorry for responding with the entire thread. 
>>
>>
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