[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[ascpgh]

Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on sizing. 
It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) up 
through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
and shapes of riders. 

I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
custom for 20 years. 

Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
choices.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell swears 
> this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 😉 ), 
> Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
> appropriate wear. 
>
> The Rundown: 
>
>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I also 
>have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>
>
> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but I 
> can ship to a loving home.
>
> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>
>  
> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben Adrian
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[alan lavine]

Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars thru 
a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an open 
face stem due to the abrupt curves.
Thanks,
Alan in NYC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
> and shapes of riders. 
>
> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
> height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
> custom for 20 years. 
>
> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
> choices.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 😉 
>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>> appropriate wear. 
>>
>> The Rundown: 
>>
>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I also 
>>have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>>
>>
>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but 
>> I can ship to a loving home.
>>
>> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>
>>  
>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
>> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
>> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben Adrian
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

Hey Jake,

Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:

> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>
> k.
>
> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've never 
> built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a 
> Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>
> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>
> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and true, 
> I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>
> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>
> #goheavyontheboeshield
>
> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

['Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Kim,

Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and 
replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like 
a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down 
hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring 
that out.

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Jake,
>
> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>
>>
>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be 
>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>
>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>
>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>
>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>
>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>
>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[Ben Adrian]

It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!

Cheers!
Ben


On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:

> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars thru 
> a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an open 
> face stem due to the abrupt curves.
> Thanks,
> Alan in NYC
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>> and shapes of riders. 
>>
>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
>> height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
>> custom for 20 years. 
>>
>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>> choices.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 😉 
>>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>>> appropriate wear. 
>>>
>>> The Rundown: 
>>>
>>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>>>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>>>
>>>
>>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but 
>>> I can ship to a loving home.
>>>
>>> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>>
>>>  
>>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
>>> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
>>> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben Adrian
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
bottom bracket box.

Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than
it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some
good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative Bob
Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve been
meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to know
the answer.

Eliot


On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
> that out.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jake,
>>
>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I
>>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

['Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Eliot - 

If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How 
about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83 
seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB 
cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube, 
blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the 
world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch 
counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)  

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper 
> bottom bracket box. 
>
> Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than 
> it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some 
> good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative Bob 
> Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve been 
> meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to know 
> the answer. 
>
> Eliot
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kim,
>>
>> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and 
>> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like 
>> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down 
>> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring 
>> that out.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jake,
>>>
>>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 Looks amazing. Good luck!

 k.

 On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".


 If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
 never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to 
 be 
 a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.

 Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so 
 I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
 anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
 virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
 have a hammer around here somewhere.

 If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
 true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.

 See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!

 #goheavyontheboeshield

 [image: Sam Parts.jpg]


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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Eliot Balogh]

Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you haven’t
started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver. Especially if
you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite limited but I
think I see the ocean).

It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold under Problem Solvers.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eliot -
>
> If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How
> about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83
> seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB
> cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube,
> blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the
> world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch
> counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
>> bottom bracket box.
>>
>> Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating than
>> it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have some
>> good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative Bob
>> Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve been
>> meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to know
>> the answer.
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kim,
>>>
>>> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
>>> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
>>> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
>>> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
>>> that out.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jake,

 Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:

> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>
> k.
>
> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to 
> be
> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>
> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so
> I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>
> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>
> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>
> #goheavyontheboeshield
>
> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

['Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ping me your addy, and one spanking new Riv tealish-blue lugged bandana 
will be in the mail.   Frame Saver is a good idea.  I have T-9, but I 
believe Frame Saver is preferred.

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you haven’t 
> started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver. Especially if 
> you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite limited but I 
> think I see the ocean).
>
> It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold under Problem Solvers.
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eliot - 
>>
>> If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How 
>> about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83 
>> seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB 
>> cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube, 
>> blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the 
>> world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch 
>> counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)  
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper 
>>> bottom bracket box. 
>>>
>>> Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating 
>>> than it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have 
>>> some good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative 
>>> Bob Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve 
>>> been meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to 
>>> know the answer. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Kim,

 Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and 
 replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like 
 a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the 
 palms-down 
 hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring 
 that out.

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey Jake,
>
> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>
>>
>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to 
>> be 
>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>
>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, 
>> so I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing 
>> the 
>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>
>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>
>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>
>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>
>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

If you are unable to find Frame Saver, boiled linseed oil will work as well.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 10:35 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ping me your addy, and one spanking new Riv tealish-blue lugged bandana
> will be in the mail.   Frame Saver is a good idea.  I have T-9, but I
> believe Frame Saver is preferred.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you
>> haven’t started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver.
>> Especially if you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite
>> limited but I think I see the ocean).
>>
>> It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold under Problem Solvers.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Eliot -
>>>
>>> If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How
>>> about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83
>>> seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB
>>> cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube,
>>> blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the
>>> world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch
>>> counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
 bottom bracket box.

 Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating
 than it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have
 some good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative
 Bob Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve
 been meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to
 know the answer.

 Eliot


 On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1
> and replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something
> like a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the
> palms-down hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before
> figuring that out.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jake,
>>
>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had 
>>> to be
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead,
>>> so I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing 
>>> the
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Fwd: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

[Doug Van Cleve]

Howdy folks.

So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled yet), and I
specifically wanted the 650B wheel size.  I would say that in general I
ride about a 55cm classic road frame and I didn't/don't want to run the
bars higher than about saddle height (I run about 72cm, depending on pedals
& shoes).  I just did some digging, and my official done-by-GP PBH appears
to be 79cm.

It looks like the current rivbike.com listing shows 81 as the minimum PBH
for the 51cm size, which I found interesting...  At this point it very much
is what it is, but now I'm curious about the typical PBH for the 51cm
model.  Any of you who own one that size, what is your PBH?

Thanks, Doug

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

[Doug Van Cleve]

Oh, I am also wondering if the geometry chart for the JA still exists
somewhere?  I see one for the Atlantis, and I know they are similar...  Doug

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:52 AM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled yet), and I
> specifically wanted the 650B wheel size.  I would say that in general I
> ride about a 55cm classic road frame and I didn't/don't want to run the
> bars higher than about saddle height (I run about 72cm, depending on pedals
> & shoes).  I just did some digging, and my official done-by-GP PBH appears
> to be 79cm.
>
> It looks like the current rivbike.com listing shows 81 as the minimum PBH
> for the 51cm size, which I found interesting...  At this point it very much
> is what it is, but now I'm curious about the typical PBH for the 51cm
> model.  Any of you who own one that size, what is your PBH?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

Sounds like a good plan. I hope those bars work out for you well.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:38 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
> that out.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jake,
>>
>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I
>>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

[Joe Bernard]

My PBH is 79, I had a 51 Appa and it fit perfect. You're good to go!

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-8 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Oh, I am also wondering if the geometry chart for the JA still exists 
> somewhere?  I see one for the Atlantis, and I know they are similar...  Doug
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:52 AM Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks.
>>
>> So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled yet), and I 
>> specifically wanted the 650B wheel size.  I would say that in general I 
>> ride about a 55cm classic road frame and I didn't/don't want to run the 
>> bars higher than about saddle height (I run about 72cm, depending on pedals 
>> & shoes).  I just did some digging, and my official done-by-GP PBH appears 
>> to be 79cm.
>>
>> It looks like the current rivbike.com listing shows 81 as the minimum 
>> PBH for the 51cm size, which I found interesting...  At this point it very 
>> much is what it is, but now I'm curious about the typical PBH for the 51cm 
>> model.  Any of you who own one that size, what is your PBH?
>>
>> Thanks, Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[alan lavine]

Good to know, thanks!

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan in NYC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
>>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
>>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>>> and shapes of riders. 
>>>
>>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
>>> my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
>>> for a custom for 20 years. 
>>>
>>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
>>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
>>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
>>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
 swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 😉 
 ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
 from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
 still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
 appropriate wear. 

 The Rundown: 

- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
- TRP RRL Brake Levers
- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
include.


 $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
 but I can ship to a loving home.

 Photos: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680

  
 Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
 The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
 ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
 able 
 to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.

 Cheers!
 Ben Adrian

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO banana connectors (M and F) or small spade connectors

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks to all; I am all set for now thanks to a generous offer; and thanks
to the other offers too and the numerous source links.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:13 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Velolumino is still out of the banana connectors, and I'm still looking
> for 2 pairs (ie, 2X male + female), or ditto for *small* spade connectors
> -- VL offers 2.8 mm but no male ones: so, 2X 2.8mm spade connectors, male +
> female.
>
> Happy to pay outrageous unit retail, tho' also happy to pay less.
>
> Or, point me to a source that has either in cheap bulk lots.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appa sizing vs. PBH

[Doug Van Cleve]

Thanks Joe :^)

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 1:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> My PBH is 79, I had a 51 Appa and it fit perfect. You're good to go!
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-8 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Oh, I am also wondering if the geometry chart for the JA still exists
>> somewhere?  I see one for the Atlantis, and I know they are similar...  Doug
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:52 AM Doug Van Cleve 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy folks.
>>>
>>> So I already have one of these (shamefully not assembled yet), and I
>>> specifically wanted the 650B wheel size.  I would say that in general I
>>> ride about a 55cm classic road frame and I didn't/don't want to run the
>>> bars higher than about saddle height (I run about 72cm, depending on pedals
>>> & shoes).  I just did some digging, and my official done-by-GP PBH appears
>>> to be 79cm.
>>>
>>> It looks like the current rivbike.com listing shows 81 as the minimum
>>> PBH for the 51cm size, which I found interesting...  At this point it very
>>> much is what it is, but now I'm curious about the typical PBH for the 51cm
>>> model.  Any of you who own one that size, what is your PBH?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Doug
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Tanaka 68mm fenders on a Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Howdy folks.

These seem like a great choice for a good price IF they fit without a bunch
of tweaking.  Anybody know if they do?

Thanks, Doug

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Re: [RBW] Which Paul brakes for a Quickbeam or Simple One?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks; come to think of it, I had a pair of these as well but found them
too cramped. The CC or Tektros were more comfortable but are made from a
lot of plastic.

I think I'll stick to my old Dura Ace levers and Paul cantis.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 5:23 PM iamkeith  wrote:

>
> DIa Compe 287V still seems to be readily available.
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:15:26 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> To fully clean and purge all residual nuances for this discussion of the
>> bestPaul brakes for one's bike: Question: What are the several options for
>> long-pull road levers? Long ago it was Tektro and Cane Creek long-pull road
>> levers, and I used both, but that was circa 2012 when I first built my
>> first edition Fargo. Have any other long pull drop bar levers appeared in
>> the last decade? Context: I'd really love to use V brakes on my 2020
>> Matthews, but I would hate to give up my 7410-era DA levers. So I wonder if
>> anyone makes long-pull drop bar levers more like the DAs and less like the
>> CC and Tektros -- which I think were the same brake under different logos?
>> Don't want Travel Agents or similar.
>>
>> I expect that in 2023 we have the same options, CC and Tektro, only.
>>
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