[RBW] Re: Best all-around useful saddlebag?

[Garth]

  Hey George .. Among my recent bag pursuits which included all things 
Carradice, the standard Bagman Sport(saddle loop dependent) is as available 
the Expedition and the QR versions. Perennial Cycles in MN, Britishcycle in 
OR, and Ben's Cycle in WI all have it in stock in the USA, not to mention 
the plethora of UK vendors. 


For George and/or Anyone Else . how much open seat rail space does the 
Bagman clamp require, in millimeters ?  

What prevents/minimizes the bags from swaying laterally when cornering, 
sprinting, mashing, thrashing, whaling ... you know  throwing all 
thought to the wind in playful abandon ? Since the answer depends on how 
heavy the load, for reference I'm talking a lighter/smaller bag like a 
Barley or Lightweight Audax loaded with whatever you carry ? 


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:29:39 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> My favorite was the Carradice Barley "super C" model coupled with the 
> Carradice Bagman Sport bag support.  The Super C Barley was great in that 
> it had plastic quick-detach strap connectors.  Also, it had a slightly 
> larger capacity than the standard Barley bag.  But apparently they only 
> made the Super C version of that bag for a few years and it's no longer 
> available.  Likewise, the Sport model of the bag support does not appear to 
> be available any longer, either, other than in a QR version.  The standard 
> size Bagman is too large for the Barley bag.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:03:10 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris – Welcome! 
>>
>> I've been running a Sackville "Happisack" (I just think of it as the 
>> "medium") for over a year and love it. Great size for me as I do a lot of 
>> grocery trips and it fits a large clamshell of salad or a twelve pack of 
>> seltzer. Also can accommodate my laptop, documents, sweaters, etc. Great 
>> size for me and wouldn't want any bigger or smaller. I run mine supported 
>> by a Nitto R14 rack. 
>>
>> I don't think you could go wrong with either the Bag Boy or Happisack as 
>> a compliment to your basket. Joe's right, too: you won't notice when it's 
>> empty, except as a handsome accessory dangling off the back. 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:29:29 AM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Carradice Pendleton for everyday use-it is a really nice 
>>> mid-sized bag. I also have a Nelson Longflap for times when I need more 
>>> capacity, and I really like the longflap feature. I really like the simple, 
>>> functional and durable aesthetic of Carradice. That being said, I could see 
>>> the advantages of a modern version like Swift or Bags x Bird. Someday I 
>>> hope to have a Waxwing custom saddlebag, which might be the best of both 
>>> worlds.
>>> Randy
>>> Wisconsin
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 I have used a Carradace Nelson Longflap I've used for daily commuting 
 and overnight trips for 20 years now. For medium and higher trail bikes 
 putting loads on the rear are less detrimental to handling than the front. 
 The Nelson's lateral shape keeps things as well forward as possible. I got 
 it for a ridiculously light ride across the country (credit card camping 
 and eating) on my Rambouillet. Simple, useful and adaptable.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-4 Chris K wrote:

> Hi all - I'm new to the group and figured you all would have opinions 
> on "the best all-around useful saddle bag," if you could only own one.
>
> For context, I ride a Bridgestone CB-0 set up with a front rack and 
> Wald basket. This is great, but I sometimes wish for a little more 
> capacity 
> in the form of a bag. Based on Rivendell's site, the Bagboy or the 
> Happisack seem to fit this "all-around useful" purpose and size. I mostly 
> ride around town but want to do some overnights this summer as well.
>
> Would you recommend definitely getting one over the other? I'm also 
> looking at the Swift Zeitgeist or Catalyst.
>
> Thanks!
>


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[RBW] Re: Best all-around useful saddlebag?

[Garth]

Best all-around useful saddlebag? Oh, britishcycle.com is in Arizona.   Yes 
... that's a very weird contrast. 
On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:38:46 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>   Hey George .. Among my recent bag pursuits which included all things 
> Carradice, the standard Bagman Sport(saddle loop dependent) is as available 
> the Expedition and the QR versions. Perennial Cycles in MN, Britishcycle in 
> OR, and Ben's Cycle in WI all have it in stock in the USA, not to mention 
> the plethora of UK vendors. 
>
>
> For George and/or Anyone Else . how much open seat rail space does the 
> Bagman clamp require, in millimeters ?  
>
> What prevents/minimizes the bags from swaying laterally when cornering, 
> sprinting, mashing, thrashing, whaling ... you know  throwing all 
> thought to the wind in playful abandon ? Since the answer depends on how 
> heavy the load, for reference I'm talking a lighter/smaller bag like a 
> Barley or Lightweight Audax loaded with whatever you carry ? 
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:29:39 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> My favorite was the Carradice Barley "super C" model coupled with the 
>> Carradice Bagman Sport bag support.  The Super C Barley was great in that 
>> it had plastic quick-detach strap connectors.  Also, it had a slightly 
>> larger capacity than the standard Barley bag.  But apparently they only 
>> made the Super C version of that bag for a few years and it's no longer 
>> available.  Likewise, the Sport model of the bag support does not appear to 
>> be available any longer, either, other than in a QR version.  The standard 
>> size Bagman is too large for the Barley bag.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:03:10 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris – Welcome! 
>>>
>>> I've been running a Sackville "Happisack" (I just think of it as the 
>>> "medium") for over a year and love it. Great size for me as I do a lot of 
>>> grocery trips and it fits a large clamshell of salad or a twelve pack of 
>>> seltzer. Also can accommodate my laptop, documents, sweaters, etc. Great 
>>> size for me and wouldn't want any bigger or smaller. I run mine supported 
>>> by a Nitto R14 rack. 
>>>
>>> I don't think you could go wrong with either the Bag Boy or Happisack as 
>>> a compliment to your basket. Joe's right, too: you won't notice when it's 
>>> empty, except as a handsome accessory dangling off the back. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:29:29 AM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a Carradice Pendleton for everyday use-it is a really nice 
 mid-sized bag. I also have a Nelson Longflap for times when I need more 
 capacity, and I really like the longflap feature. I really like the 
 simple, 
 functional and durable aesthetic of Carradice. That being said, I could 
 see 
 the advantages of a modern version like Swift or Bags x Bird. Someday I 
 hope to have a Waxwing custom saddlebag, which might be the best of both 
 worlds.
 Randy
 Wisconsin

 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:55:38 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> I have used a Carradace Nelson Longflap I've used for daily commuting 
> and overnight trips for 20 years now. For medium and higher trail bikes 
> putting loads on the rear are less detrimental to handling than the 
> front. 
> The Nelson's lateral shape keeps things as well forward as possible. I 
> got 
> it for a ridiculously light ride across the country (credit card camping 
> and eating) on my Rambouillet. Simple, useful and adaptable.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:20:56 PM UTC-4 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Hi all - I'm new to the group and figured you all would have opinions 
>> on "the best all-around useful saddle bag," if you could only own one.
>>
>> For context, I ride a Bridgestone CB-0 set up with a front rack and 
>> Wald basket. This is great, but I sometimes wish for a little more 
>> capacity 
>> in the form of a bag. Based on Rivendell's site, the Bagboy or the 
>> Happisack seem to fit this "all-around useful" purpose and size. I 
>> mostly 
>> ride around town but want to do some overnights this summer as well.
>>
>> Would you recommend definitely getting one over the other? I'm also 
>> looking at the Swift Zeitgeist or Catalyst.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: If you want to see someone's Clem L this is the thread

[Sofie C]

Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 
>
> Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this with 
> a RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do whatever you 
> want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured and stalwart and 
> will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at what I’ve put 
> mine through! 
>
> All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: If you want to see someone's Clem L this is the thread

[Richard Rose]

Sofie, did you not like your Bubbly pedals? Technically a bear trap, I love 
mine. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
> 
> Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
> pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...
> 
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 
>> 
>> Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this with a 
>> RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do whatever you 
>> want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured and stalwart and 
>> will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at what I’ve put 
>> mine through! 
>> 
>> All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.
>> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: If you want to see someone's Clem L this is the thread

[Sofie C]

I actually never tried the bubblys! I didn't need them because I still had 
my monarchs that I took off my platypus, so I sold the bubblys before I 
could fall in love with them... what can I say, I'm fickle! I have to say I 
like the monarchs a lot too... 
On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:34:01 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sofie, did you not like your Bubbly pedals? Technically a bear trap, I 
> love mine. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
> pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 
>>
>> Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this 
>> with a RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do 
>> whatever you want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured and 
>> stalwart and will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at 
>> what I’ve put mine through! 
>>
>> All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: If you want to see someone's Clem L this is the thread

[Johnny Alien]

The bear traps are really nice. There is something about the look of them 
that really appealed to be and the options for some color is a huge plus. 
They grip super well but also not to the extent that moving the foot is 
difficult. My normal pedals have pins that are so super grippy that you are 
practically locked in when you put your foot down. Its nice until you want 
to slightly adjust and then you realize that sometimes things can be too 
grippy. The bear traps are much better in that regard. I never tried the 
Bubbly ones but they do look pretty similar. I prefer the rounded off look 
of the bear traps (plus they are a touch cheaper which is always a plus).

There are three stems similar to that new Blue Lug stem. The blue lug one 
(of course), the new Rivendell IRD stem, and the Nitto MT-54S. They are all 
tig welded steel.

I have experience with the two nitto models (Blue Lug and MT) but have not 
held or seen the new Rivendell version.  With that in mind this is what I 
would suggest with them.

   - If you need to clamp onto 31.8 bars then the Rivendell option is the 
   only choice
   - If you need to really raise the bars up then the Rivendell option is 
   the best choice. The angle is larger and the stem length is much greater 
   than the other two
   - If you need a shorter extension then the Rivendell and Blue Lug 
   options are the best bet. I would lean toward the Blue Lug one as it has 
   more size options however if you need the extra height then pick the 
   Rivendell
   - The Nitto MT is the lightest. That's because the stem length is low. 
   If you don't need that extra length or a shorter extension and are OK with 
   the dull color this is a great option
   - The nicest looking of the bunch (IMO) is the Blue Lug version. Its not 
   a TON better than the MT but it IS nicer and its the only one that gives 
   you a color choice
   - The Blue Lug allows you to change the stem cap so you can add some 
   flair. It looks like the Rivendell model should as well but I can't confirm 
   that. The MT does not

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:39:04 AM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> I actually never tried the bubblys! I didn't need them because I still had 
> my monarchs that I took off my platypus, so I sold the bubblys before I 
> could fall in love with them... what can I say, I'm fickle! I have to say I 
> like the monarchs a lot too... 
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:34:01 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sofie, did you not like your Bubbly pedals? Technically a bear trap, I 
>> love mine. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
>> pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 
>>>
>>> Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this 
>>> with a RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do 
>>> whatever you want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured and 
>>> stalwart and will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at 
>>> what I’ve put mine through! 
>>>
>>> All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale 52cm Yves Gomez, plus WTB and/or trade

[Bill Lindsay]

Indeed I am looking for a 58cm Yves Gomez, and I am still looking.  My 
offer stands at $1000 for a frame+fork+headset.  My 52 is claimed, and 
we're now negotiating whether I keep my build kit or sell the 52 complete.  
If I can find a 58, I'll want to keep my build kit.  Let me know if you've 
got one.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I know. Bill is looking for a 58cm Gomez, which is the topic I'm 
> responding to. I've seen several Bettys in person, I think Riv sold more of 
> them. 
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 1:14:25 PM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Yves was the same bike as Betty Foy.  color and badging differences.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 10:13:13 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> It may be a supply issue. I've never seen a Gomez live in person and I 
>>> don't think very many were produced before it became Cheviot. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:33 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I've gotten several interested responses, and I'm working with those 
 responders in the order they responded.  It's looking quite likely that 
 one 
 of these responders will end up with my Gomez.  I haven't heard from 
 anybody wanting to sell me their 58cm Gomez.  I guess we should all take 
 that for what it's worth regarding current value.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:13:44 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I think that's a fair price and I'd buy it if it was a 47.  Leah found 
> me one in Salt Lake City but I think they wanted $1500 for the frame.
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 5:48:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Bill referred to pictures and did not post the link.  Here is the 
>> link:   Yves Gomez | Flickr 
>> 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 2:47:28 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Choi very succinctly asked "Pictures?"  
>>>
>>> Here are a couple after the build.  It's practically unridden, and 
>>> currently serves as a guest bike at my place in Gold Country.  I'll be 
>>> glad 
>>> to take new photos for any interested buyer. 
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 1:33:21 PM UTC-7 Paul Choi wrote:
>>>
 Pictures?

 On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 1:15:03 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Yves Gomez keeps coming up in the context of a forever bike, 
> particularly among those who don't dig long chainstays.  I have a 
> 52cm Yves 
> Gomez, and I'm willing to set up a different bike for that role in 
> the 
> stable.  I'm offering the 52cm Yves Gomez frame/fork/headset for 
> $1000, 
> plus shipping.  
>
> Old-timers like me remember that the Yves Gomez retailed for $1000 
> or thereabouts.  Is it fair or reasonable to ask $1000 for a 10-year 
> old 
> frameset that retailed for $1000?  We'll find out, because I'm also 
> offering $1000 plus shipping for a 58cm Yves Gomez frame, fork and 
> headset.  If my price is low, somebody will buy mine.  If my price is 
> high, 
> somebody will sell me one.  The fact is that the functional 
> equivalent is 
> the $1750 Platypus, and a vocal subset of listers claim to prefer the 
> short 
> chainstay models.  
>
> I'm also totally open to a zero dollar trade: My 52cm Yves Gomez 
> for your 58cm Yves Gomez.   
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: If you want to see someone's Clem L this is the thread

[Johnny Alien]

If the Rivendell model was available when I ordered this I may have went 
with it to get the 65 wide Toscos that only have a 31.8 clamp but I am not 
sure that it would have worked out for me based on the length. I am not 
sure I could get them low enough. I think that Riv stem and 65 Toscos is 
going to be a powerhouse combo though.

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:24:05 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The bear traps are really nice. There is something about the look of them 
> that really appealed to be and the options for some color is a huge plus. 
> They grip super well but also not to the extent that moving the foot is 
> difficult. My normal pedals have pins that are so super grippy that you are 
> practically locked in when you put your foot down. Its nice until you want 
> to slightly adjust and then you realize that sometimes things can be too 
> grippy. The bear traps are much better in that regard. I never tried the 
> Bubbly ones but they do look pretty similar. I prefer the rounded off look 
> of the bear traps (plus they are a touch cheaper which is always a plus).
>
> There are three stems similar to that new Blue Lug stem. The blue lug one 
> (of course), the new Rivendell IRD stem, and the Nitto MT-54S. They are all 
> tig welded steel.
>
> I have experience with the two nitto models (Blue Lug and MT) but have not 
> held or seen the new Rivendell version.  With that in mind this is what I 
> would suggest with them.
>
>- If you need to clamp onto 31.8 bars then the Rivendell option is the 
>only choice
>- If you need to really raise the bars up then the Rivendell option is 
>the best choice. The angle is larger and the stem length is much greater 
>than the other two
>- If you need a shorter extension then the Rivendell and Blue Lug 
>options are the best bet. I would lean toward the Blue Lug one as it has 
>more size options however if you need the extra height then pick the 
>Rivendell
>- The Nitto MT is the lightest. That's because the stem length is low. 
>If you don't need that extra length or a shorter extension and are OK with 
>the dull color this is a great option
>- The nicest looking of the bunch (IMO) is the Blue Lug version. Its 
>not a TON better than the MT but it IS nicer and its the only one that 
>gives you a color choice
>- The Blue Lug allows you to change the stem cap so you can add some 
>flair. It looks like the Rivendell model should as well but I can't 
> confirm 
>that. The MT does not
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:39:04 AM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I actually never tried the bubblys! I didn't need them because I still 
>> had my monarchs that I took off my platypus, so I sold the bubblys before I 
>> could fall in love with them... what can I say, I'm fickle! I have to say I 
>> like the monarchs a lot too... 
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:34:01 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Sofie, did you not like your Bubbly pedals? Technically a bear trap, I 
>>> love mine. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
>>> pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 

 Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this 
 with a RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do 
 whatever you want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured 
 and 
 stalwart and will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at 
 what I’ve put mine through! 

 All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crust Clydesdale Forks and Rivs

[luckyturnip]

I *really* want a Clydesdale fork. I had a bike in mind to put it on, but now 
that they’re right in front of me, I can’t decide which to buy. I can only 
afford one. My current bike has a 1” steerer (Klunker bike). But it’s an 
expensive enough purchase that maybe it makes more sense to get the 1 1/8” for 
more applications, and get a different bike…
I wouldn’t put it on my Atlantis personally because I think it would be too 
heavy. 

> On Apr 16, 2022, at 21:58, J Imler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Max, I have a Clydesdale fork and a 10lb dog. It's perfect. 45lbs would 
> necessitate an electric assist in my opinion if you want to go for distance. 
> Otherwise, around the block a couple of times is likely. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>> Hi Bunch,
>> 
>> I'm having some crazy thoughts ... thinking of outfitting my Sam or my 
>> Atlantis with a Clydesale Fork to carry my 45 pound dog.
>> 
>> Two question to the group: 1) Will the Clydesdale fork work with either the 
>> Sam or the Atlantis? 2) Am I crazy to try to carry a 45 pound dog on a bike?
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Max
> 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Riv silver chainring guard?

[Bill Schairer]

I have one that seems to match up well with a 38.  It is too small for a 42.

Bill S
San Diego

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:40:08 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> In reference to Bill's question, you'll want to match guard size pretty 
> close to chainring size unless it's a singlespeed or IGH drivetrain. I 
> discovered the expensive way the Riv guard sits very close to the ring and 
> the chain will rub it in the small/hardest rear cog on a derailer bike if 
> the guard is notably bigger than the chainring..say 42t guard/36t ring. So 
> there's that! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:37:22 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Anyone holding one? They've been out of stock for a while.
>>
>> M.
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Analog Cycles Fifth Season Squall Sack

[Christopher Wiggins]

Hello!
When ordering Squall Sacks (or any Fifth Season bag) I’m limited to the 
fabric that the maker has on hand.  Most of the colors were not available 
at the time of ordering, and there was no eta on when they would be back in 
stock.  I took the best options that were available to me at that time.
I am enjoying Naples, but I understand.  I wouldn’t want to move back to my 
home town either.
Thanks!
Chris
The Psychic Derailleur

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:25:01 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Good to know.  I grew up in Naples, and I am shocked that a shop like that 
> exists there now.  I still wouldn't move back.
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:52:15 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Conway. It’s a fantastic bag IMHO. It’s a simply beautiful thing 
>> and is a bargain to boot. I have the Rose/Navy, which is the colorway I 
>> liked best - but it appears to be out of stock? I think the Psychic 
>> Derailleur guy had some?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's more like I want to try an Analog Cycles Fifth Season Squall Sack, 
>> and I'm not keen on the color options on their site right now.  I just 
>> swapped handlebars from drops to persuaders so I can ride with both my 
>> kids, and I do not think my RRB Jumbo Jammer will work.  I like big, 
>> unstructured, roll top bags without a lot of pockets, so the fifth season 
>> squall Sack checks a lot of boxes for me.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Bar bags

[Joe Bernard]

Co-Pilot sold, just the Burrito Supreme remains. 

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:34:49 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Riv Custom
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:23:43 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> On the heels of the “one bike forever” megathread I’d be curious to know 
>> what your one bike is…
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> I'm down to one bike and plan to stay that way for the foreseeable 
>> future so here's bags that need bars to hang on (maybe it's hang off): 
>>
>>
>> Road Runner Burrito Supreme, black, brand new never mounted, it sells for 
>> $90 from them so I'll do $85 shipped to talk you into it. 
>>
>> Road Runner Co-Pilot stem bag, black, $30 shipped. 
>>
>> Rivelo/RandiJo special, I never used it for a camera but it's a camera 
>> bag. Next post will have more pics showing how it mounts and closes plus a 
>> nifty grease spot. $50 shipped. 
>>
>> Email or text for more pics and questions and whatnot:
>> joeremi62 gmail com
>> 415-786-4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>
>> Thanks! 
>> Joe Bernard
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[RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?

Thank you 
Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crust Clydesdale Forks and Rivs

[Ray Varella]

Burley makes a dog trailer!
That’s great. 
What is the weight limit?


Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 7:58:11 AM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here’s how I carry my 65 lb dog. Burley dog trailer! 
>
> Joe
>
> [image: image]
>
> On Apr 17, 2022, at 7:27 AM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
> I *really* want a Clydesdale fork. I had a bike in mind to put it on, but 
> now that they’re right in front of me, I can’t decide which to buy. I can 
> only afford one. My current bike has a 1” steerer (Klunker bike). But it’s 
> an expensive enough purchase that maybe it makes more sense to get the 1 
> 1/8” for more applications, and get a different bike…
> I wouldn’t put it on my Atlantis personally because I think it would be 
> too heavy. 
>
> On Apr 16, 2022, at 21:58, J Imler  wrote:
>
> Hi Max, I have a Clydesdale fork and a 10lb dog. It's perfect. 45lbs 
> would necessitate an electric assist in my opinion if you want to go for 
> distance. Otherwise, around the block a couple of times is likely. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi Bunch,
>>
>> I'm having some crazy thoughts ... thinking of outfitting my Sam or my 
>> Atlantis with a Clydesale Fork to carry my 45 pound dog.
>>
>> Two question to the group: 1) Will the Clydesdale fork work with either 
>> the Sam or the Atlantis? 2) Am I crazy to try to carry a 45 pound dog on a 
>> bike?
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> Max
>>
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[RBW] ISO/WTB extralight Naches Pass tires and Schwalbe SV14A tubes

[Patrick Moore]

Before I order online, does anyone have a pair of the extralight Naches
Pass tires, or some of the extralight 42 mm 650B/26" Schwalbe SV14A tubes?
Note the "A" in the tubes' model designation.

I'm looking for the extra light models of both items.

Thanks.


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[RBW] Re: Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Jason Fuller]

Platypus has more generous clearance than the Hillborne - I think the Platy 
uses the same fork crown as the Atlantis, though I'm not 100%.  Platy will 
fit 48's and fenders, while the Hillborne stops at 42's and fenders.  
Without fenders its more like 55 vs. 48mm max 

On Sunday, 17 April 2022 at 09:51:38 UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Cherry Blossoms, Apricot Blossoms, Peach Blossoms

[Jason Fuller]

The photos started out strong, and are getting better and better with each 
post.  Wow, thanks for posting!  I'm fortunate to have a lot of cherry and 
plum blossom trees here, though these peach blossom trees are blowing my 
mind.  

Jason in Vancouver BC

On Sunday, 17 April 2022 at 03:51:54 UTC-7 Takashi wrote:

> Thank you all for warm comments!
> I really hope that people can travel more easily in the near future, and 
> RivRiders visit this land.
>
> Here are couple more photos from today's brief ride:
> [image: DSC02110.jpg]
> [image: DSC02112.jpg]
>
> Takashi
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Schmidt Edelux, B&M Rear Light & E-Werk, Revelate, Velogical Dynamo + more

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ll take the Velogical!

–Eric N


> On Apr 16, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Mike in WA  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Used to be a long(ish)-time community member, but sold my two Rivs (to 
> someone on the list), bought a Jones Plus, and have been doing a different 
> type of riding ever since. I have some lightly-to hardly- to never-used 
> goodies for sale here. See the Imgur page for pictures.
> 
> Schmidt "Edelux II" headlight with headlight and taillight wires attached, 
> circa 2014. This was mounted for about 6 months on my old Hillborne before I 
> sold it, then kept in storage. Works perfectly and just needs a little 
> simichrome to look good as new. Asking $110 shipped.
> Busch & Muller Toplight Line "Brake Plus" taillight, circa 2014. The fancy 
> kind that pulses or something when you slow down. Never used or even mounted. 
> Asking $45 shipped.
> Velogical Rim Dynamo System, circa 2014. Never used or installed, as I was 
> not motivated or savvy enough to install a non-hub dynamo system. In perfect 
> working order as far as I know, includes the thermistor, mounting hardware, 
> and extra o-ring. Asking $80 shipped.
> B&M "E-Werk" charging kit, circa 2014. Older model that was never used or 
> installed, should still work perfectly and charge all of your devices. Here's 
> Peter White's page if you'd like more information on it. Asking $100 shipped. 
> Revelate "Sweet Roll", size small, circa 2014. Another never mounted or used 
> item in perfect conditon, with included handlebar installation pads. This is 
> the 11 liter version, I believe. Asking $65 shipped. 
> Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro tires, 29" X 2.25", circa 2014. I used these for less 
> than 500 miles of snow commuting in grad school in 2013-14, then put them 
> away in storage. Missing a stud here and there but still have plenty of life 
> in them. Irremovable orange seal on inside is a sign of beausage. Asking $65 
> shipped. 
> Shimano XT front derailleur, circa 2014. Used this for a short time ( >300 
> miles or so) on my Jones, then switched to a 1X10 setup. Still works 
> perfectly. Asking $25 shipped. 
> If you would like to buy multiple items we can work out some kind of deal 
> with the shipping and so forth. Happy to do payment by Venmo or PayPal.  
> Thanks in advance for looking!
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Re: [RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Jon Dukeman]

Ray
I have a 58 Canti Sam & a 55 Platty.
I run 700x 40C knobbys on the Sam and sometimes Little Big Ben's.  I've run
Schwalbe g-one alrounders too all about 40mm wide or 1.5"
The 55 Platty I run 28 x 2 Schwalbe G1 extra grip knobbys or sometimes
Schwalbe Big Bens
Each about 50 mm wide.
Issues with clearance is at the chain stays on the Sam trying to fit the
28x 2s
My best answer is the 700C tires on the Sam will fit on the Platty but my
tires on the Platty will not clear
the 700C Sam. 700c & 28 are interchangeable.
I have v brakes on the Platty. Cantilevers on the Sam. No fenders.
I have not tried to interchange tires I just took measurements at the chain
stays.
Hope this helps.
Jon

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM Ray Varella  wrote:

> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames.
> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>
> Thank you
> Ray
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[RBW] Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Matthew Williams]

Atlantis
50cm
2500
Tucson, AZ
https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/tucson-rivendell-atlantis-50cm/7472450157.html


Rambouillet
54cm
1885
Santa Rosa, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/santa-rosa-54cm-rivendell-rambouillet/7472125475.html

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[RBW] Re: FS: Schmidt Edelux, B&M Rear Light & E-Werk, Revelate, Velogical Dynamo + more

[Jaden Salama]

Hey Mike,
Thanks for having the sale and still being a presence in the community! I 
sent you an email about an hour ago about some of the items, not sure if it 
went through or not (it isn't in my sent folder in my email). Let me know 
if you got it or not?

Many Thanks,
Jaden Salama in hail-y OR


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7 Mike in WA wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Used to be a long(ish)-time community member, but sold my two Rivs (to 
> someone on the list), bought a Jones Plus, and have been doing a different 
> type of riding ever since. I have some lightly-to hardly- to never-used 
> goodies for sale here. See the Imgur page  
> for pictures.
>
>
>1. Schmidt "Edelux II" headlight with headlight and taillight wires 
>attached, circa 2014. This was mounted for about 6 months on my old 
>Hillborne before I sold it, then kept in storage. Works perfectly and just 
>needs a little simichrome to look good as new. Asking $110 shipped.
>2. Busch & Muller Toplight Line "Brake Plus" taillight, circa 2014. 
>The fancy kind that pulses or something when you slow down. Never used or 
>even mounted. Asking $45 shipped.
>3. Velogical Rim Dynamo System, circa 2014. Never used or installed, 
>as I was not motivated or savvy enough to install a non-hub dynamo system. 
>In perfect working order as far as I know, includes the thermistor, 
>mounting hardware, and extra o-ring. Asking $80 shipped.
>4. B&M "E-Werk" charging kit, circa 2014. Older model that was never 
>used or installed, should still work perfectly and charge all of your 
>devices. Here's Peter White's page 
> if you'd like more 
>information on it. Asking $100 shipped. 
>5. Revelate "Sweet Roll", size small, circa 2014. Another never 
>mounted or used item in perfect conditon, with included handlebar 
>installation pads. This is the 11 liter version, I believe. Asking $65 
>shipped. 
>6. Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro tires, 29" X 2.25", circa 2014. I used 
>these for less than 500 miles of snow commuting in grad school in 2013-14, 
>then put them away in storage. Missing a stud here and there but still 
> have 
>plenty of life in them. Irremovable orange seal on inside is a sign of 
>beausage. Asking $65 shipped. 
>7. Shimano XT front derailleur, circa 2014. Used this for a short time 
>( >300 miles or so) on my Jones, then switched to a 1X10 setup. Still 
> works 
>perfectly. Asking $25 shipped. 
>
> If you would like to buy multiple items we can work out some kind of deal 
> with the shipping and so forth. Happy to do payment by Venmo or PayPal.  
> Thanks in advance for looking!
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Stephen]

I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. 
who else is up for it?

-stephen

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

>
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>
>> Good morning
>>
>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jacob
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Hey,

 I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
 rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
 organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to keep 
 connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
 way 
 back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park 
 yesterday while the weather was nice. 

 -stephen
 On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:

> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…😩
> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s 
> in the spa)
>
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list 
>> of 
>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>>
>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>> Alan / UWS /
>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>
>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As 
>> far 
>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>
>> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to 
>> jump in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a 
>> smaller thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>>
>> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that 
>> new Ram!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I 
 am in Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase

 On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing 
> that I live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group 
> comes 
> over to the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's 
> always 
> nice meeting like minded people.
>
> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved 
> basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two 
>> kids and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river 
>> to Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. 
>> From 
>> there we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then 
>> weave 
>> our way down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge 
>> we can. 
>> Every crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous 
>> would be 
>> fine, if you're into that sort of thing...
>> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, 
>> whatevs)
>> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among 
>> others
>>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other 
>>> Brooklyn Riv'sters, maybe 

Re: [RBW] Re: Crust Clydesdale Forks and Rivs

[Joe Mullins]

Looking at the construction I’d say it should safely hold well over 65 lbs 
although my pup is about reaching the max size that can comfortably fit in 
there. I’d say it’s designed for medium sized dogs and a full size Labrador is 
about as big as you’d want to ride in there. 

Joe

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Ray Varella  wrote:
> 
> Burley makes a dog trailer!
> That’s great. 
> What is the weight limit?
> 
> 
> Ray
> 
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 7:58:11 AM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Here’s how I carry my 65 lb dog. Burley dog trailer! 
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Apr 17, 2022, at 7:27 AM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I *really* want a Clydesdale fork. I had a bike in mind to put it on, but 
>>> now that they’re right in front of me, I can’t decide which to buy. I can 
>>> only afford one. My current bike has a 1” steerer (Klunker bike). But it’s 
>>> an expensive enough purchase that maybe it makes more sense to get the 1 
>>> 1/8” for more applications, and get a different bike…
>>> I wouldn’t put it on my Atlantis personally because I think it would be too 
>>> heavy. 
>>> 
> On Apr 16, 2022, at 21:58, J Imler  wrote:
> 
 Hi Max, I have a Clydesdale fork and a 10lb dog. It's perfect. 45lbs 
 would necessitate an electric assist in my opinion if you want to go for 
 distance. Otherwise, around the block a couple of times is likely. 
 
 
 
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
> Hi Bunch,
> 
> I'm having some crazy thoughts ... thinking of outfitting my Sam or my 
> Atlantis with a Clydesale Fork to carry my 45 pound dog.
> 
> Two question to the group: 1) Will the Clydesdale fork work with either 
> the Sam or the Atlantis? 2) Am I crazy to try to carry a 45 pound dog on 
> a bike?
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> Max
 
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[RBW] FS: Swift and Acorn bags, Brooks c-17, Rapid rise

[Drw]

Selling a few things

*Swift Jr. Ranger panniers- *about a year old, but brand new. never 
mounted. nice sort of pine greenish color -300$ plus shipping

*Acorn saddlebag- *banana style. has 2 zipped pockets on the side, which is 
nice. structurally solid, but definitely shows some wear- 60$ plus shipping

*Acorn Toolroll-* a little more than a tool roll. has 3 zipped 
compartments. can fit on saddlebag loops or over a bar or basket etc. very 
good condition- 50$ plus shipping

*Deore LX rear derailer Rapid Rise-* long cage. very good condition. 50$ 
shipped

*Brooks C-17 carved all weather- * this nearly new. has a small scuff on 
the side. 100$ shipped

Photos HERE 
There are also other items in that folder that are for sale. I've already 
listed them, so I wont add them to this thread, but feel free to reach out 
if you're interested in anything in that folder

Thanks,
Drew. LA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift and Acorn bags, Brooks c-17, Rapid rise

[LBleriot]

I’m interested in the tool roll, but the photo link isn’t working for me. 
 Can you re-post link?
On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 6:39:09 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> Selling a few things
>
> *Swift Jr. Ranger panniers- *about a year old, but brand new. never 
> mounted. nice sort of pine greenish color -300$ plus shipping
>
> *Acorn saddlebag- *banana style. has 2 zipped pockets on the side, which 
> is nice. structurally solid, but definitely shows some wear- 60$ plus 
> shipping
>
> *Acorn Toolroll-* a little more than a tool roll. has 3 zipped 
> compartments. can fit on saddlebag loops or over a bar or basket etc. very 
> good condition- 50$ plus shipping
>
> *Deore LX rear derailer Rapid Rise-* long cage. very good condition. 50$ 
> shipped
>
> *Brooks C-17 carved all weather- * this nearly new. has a small scuff on 
> the side. 100$ shipped
>
> Photos HERE 
> There are also other items in that folder that are for sale. I've already 
> listed them, so I wont add them to this thread, but feel free to reach out 
> if you're interested in anything in that folder
>
> Thanks,
> Drew. LA
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Analog Cycles Fifth Season Squall Sack

[Richard Rose]

Hello Chris, you would not happen to have one of their awesome & expensive 
saddle bags? Key Pa I think it is called.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Christopher Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> When ordering Squall Sacks (or any Fifth Season bag) I’m limited to the 
> fabric that the maker has on hand.  Most of the colors were not available at 
> the time of ordering, and there was no eta on when they would be back in 
> stock.  I took the best options that were available to me at that time.
> I am enjoying Naples, but I understand.  I wouldn’t want to move back to my 
> home town either.
> Thanks!
> Chris
> The Psychic Derailleur
> 
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:25:01 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Good to know.  I grew up in Naples, and I am shocked that a shop like that 
>> exists there now.  I still wouldn't move back.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:52:15 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello Conway. It’s a fantastic bag IMHO. It’s a simply beautiful thing and 
>>> is a bargain to boot. I have the Rose/Navy, which is the colorway I liked 
>>> best - but it appears to be out of stock? I think the Psychic Derailleur 
>>> guy had some?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 16, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
> 
 It's more like I want to try an Analog Cycles Fifth Season Squall Sack, 
 and I'm not keen on the color options on their site right now.  I just 
 swapped handlebars from drops to persuaders so I can ride with both my 
 kids, and I do not think my RRB Jumbo Jammer will work.  I like big, 
 unstructured, roll top bags without a lot of pockets, so the fifth season 
 squall Sack checks a lot of boxes for me.
 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift and Acorn bags, Brooks c-17, Rapid rise

[David Person]

Photo link not working.

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:34:06 PM UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:

>
> I’m interested in the tool roll, but the photo link isn’t working for me. 
>  Can you re-post link?
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 6:39:09 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:
>
>> Selling a few things
>>
>> *Swift Jr. Ranger panniers- *about a year old, but brand new. never 
>> mounted. nice sort of pine greenish color -300$ plus shipping
>>
>> *Acorn saddlebag- *banana style. has 2 zipped pockets on the side, which 
>> is nice. structurally solid, but definitely shows some wear- 60$ plus 
>> shipping
>>
>> *Acorn Toolroll-* a little more than a tool roll. has 3 zipped 
>> compartments. can fit on saddlebag loops or over a bar or basket etc. very 
>> good condition- 50$ plus shipping
>>
>> *Deore LX rear derailer Rapid Rise-* long cage. very good condition. 50$ 
>> shipped
>>
>> *Brooks C-17 carved all weather- * this nearly new. has a small scuff on 
>> the side. 100$ shipped
>>
>> Photos HERE 
>> There are also other items in that folder that are for sale. I've already 
>> listed them, so I wont add them to this thread, but feel free to reach out 
>> if you're interested in anything in that folder
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Drew. LA
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift and Acorn bags, Brooks c-17, Rapid rise

[Drw]

acorn tool rool and rapid rise are sold.  apologies here is the correct 
photo link
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rLegfU6iBJo24a7fA

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 6:23:05 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Photo link not working.
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:34:06 PM UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:
>
>>
>> I’m interested in the tool roll, but the photo link isn’t working for me. 
>>  Can you re-post link?
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 6:39:09 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> Selling a few things
>>>
>>> *Swift Jr. Ranger panniers- *about a year old, but brand new. never 
>>> mounted. nice sort of pine greenish color -300$ plus shipping
>>>
>>> *Acorn saddlebag- *banana style. has 2 zipped pockets on the side, 
>>> which is nice. structurally solid, but definitely shows some wear- 60$ plus 
>>> shipping
>>>
>>> *Acorn Toolroll-* a little more than a tool roll. has 3 zipped 
>>> compartments. can fit on saddlebag loops or over a bar or basket etc. very 
>>> good condition- 50$ plus shipping
>>>
>>> *Deore LX rear derailer Rapid Rise-* long cage. very good condition. 
>>> 50$ shipped
>>>
>>> *Brooks C-17 carved all weather- * this nearly new. has a small scuff 
>>> on the side. 100$ shipped
>>>
>>> Photos HERE 
>>> There are also other items in that folder that are for sale. I've 
>>> already listed them, so I wont add them to this thread, but feel free to 
>>> reach out if you're interested in anything in that folder
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Drew. LA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you John and Jason,
That makes it very clear. 
I wasn’t sure if the Sam’s had gained more clearance with e addition of V/ 
cantilever brakes.  

Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ray
> I have a 58 Canti Sam & a 55 Platty.
> I run 700x 40C knobbys on the Sam and sometimes Little Big Ben's.  I've 
> run Schwalbe g-one alrounders too all about 40mm wide or 1.5"
> The 55 Platty I run 28 x 2 Schwalbe G1 extra grip knobbys or sometimes 
> Schwalbe Big Bens
> Each about 50 mm wide.
> Issues with clearance is at the chain stays on the Sam trying to fit the 
> 28x 2s
> My best answer is the 700C tires on the Sam will fit on the Platty but my 
> tires on the Platty will not clear
> the 700C Sam. 700c & 28 are interchangeable.
> I have v brakes on the Platty. Cantilevers on the Sam. No fenders.
> I have not tried to interchange tires I just took measurements at the 
> chain stays.
> Hope this helps.
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM Ray Varella  wrote:
>
>> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
>> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
>> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Jason and Jon,
I wasn’t sure if the Sams had gained some clearance with the addition of 
V/cantilever brakes. 
This clarifies it. 

Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ray
> I have a 58 Canti Sam & a 55 Platty.
> I run 700x 40C knobbys on the Sam and sometimes Little Big Ben's.  I've 
> run Schwalbe g-one alrounders too all about 40mm wide or 1.5"
> The 55 Platty I run 28 x 2 Schwalbe G1 extra grip knobbys or sometimes 
> Schwalbe Big Bens
> Each about 50 mm wide.
> Issues with clearance is at the chain stays on the Sam trying to fit the 
> 28x 2s
> My best answer is the 700C tires on the Sam will fit on the Platty but my 
> tires on the Platty will not clear
> the 700C Sam. 700c & 28 are interchangeable.
> I have v brakes on the Platty. Cantilevers on the Sam. No fenders.
> I have not tried to interchange tires I just took measurements at the 
> chain stays.
> Hope this helps.
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM Ray Varella  wrote:
>
>> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
>> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
>> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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