Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L For Sale

[Doug H.]

Good morning Yaheen,
My PayPal email is dhansford1...@gmail.com
I would like to get the bike packed for shipping prior to payment if that
works for you. I should be able to get it done by Wednesday evening at the
latest. I'll buy shipping materials today and start on it. Could you give
me the shipping address so that I can go ahead and buy the shipping label?
Thanks,
Doug

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:13 AM YQ  wrote:

> Hi Doug -- as we discussed, I would like to buy your Clem for $2,265,
> shipping included in price, payment via PayPal Goods and Services. When you
> have a chance, please send me an email and let me know where to send the
> payment.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Yakeen
>
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> This is a bump and an update. I installed a Microshift thumb shifter
>> today, indexed, and I think it looks better than the bar end and works just
>> as well. I rode to adjust the shifting and the Clem rides so well! I just
>> want a more road-oriented bicycle. Still listed at $2,200 plus shipping.
>> Mint with upgraded wheels and tires as compared to stock.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>> I updated the linked album with better photos of the Clem L. It comes
>>> just as shown as I removed the lights and bell that I want to keep. It is
>>> in mint condition and shipping is available. Let's say $2,200 plus shipping
>>> OBO. I paid $2,500 as it was a Rivendell build and not stock but it is a
>>> "used" bicycle.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:37:12 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Or best offer...

 On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:20:16 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> After a few months of riding and enjoying my Clem L I have decided to
> sell it. I ride almost exclusively on the roads and lately in group rides.
> I much prefer not to ship but know that is the likely scenario. I'm in
> Athens, Ga so if you are within 100 miles or so I can meet you. Otherwise 
> I
> can get a shipping quote based on your location. Photos in the link:
>
> Clem L Photos 
>
> This is a like new Lime Olive Clem L size 52 with 650b wheels. 1x10
> with a Microshift bar end shifter. Tosco bars and Nitto stem. Black 172.5
> mm Clipper crank arms and 38 tooth chain ring with guard. Velocity
> Cliffhanger wheels 32 spoke front, 36 rear. Deore hubs. Teravail Ehline
> black wall tires. Shimano Deore v-brakes. MKS Grip Monarch pedals. Saddle
> will be a like new black Giant saddle, not the Brooks shown in the photos.
> This frame was built up by Rivendell, not a stock build. Asking $2,400 
> plus
> shipping.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
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[RBW] Re: BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

+1 on all the advice given so far.  It's definitely worth it.

I would add that if you're like me and don't really feel comfortable in big 
crowds, don't hesitate to stop at bars/coffee shops for a 
refreshment/rest.  The rest stops were overwhelming-ish for me and stopping 
at a cafe with outdoor seating was more relaxing (while watching all the 
riders go by :-)

DIY snacking is better than waiting in big lineups.

DON'T take the ferry back at the end, absolutely park at the finish.  

Done with a friend is great.  Done with a small group is great.  Trying to 
do it with a big group was challenging according to friends of mine.

ADVENTURE!

Alex in Rochester, NY

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 11:14:20 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> not sure if it was intentional or the angle of the camera, but that bit at 
> the beginning where he's squeezing thru traffic gave me so much anxiety.  
> i'm living in NYC now and i've always wanted to do this but the crowds and 
> logistics.  i feel a little too old for that much adventure
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 9:20:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Me too, Pam! Rivendells only. I have no idea how I’d get the logistics to 
>> work, but If I’m riding the Five Borough Tour, it’s going to be astride a 
>> Platypus!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:37:39 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> My friend has signed up for this year.  Maybe we should all plan on 
>>> going one year.  I'll give you her report afterwards.  She's renting a bike 
>>> but I'd only want to do it on mine.  
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-5 Steve Cole wrote:
>>>
 I still think of the time I did the 5-borough ride as the most fun I've 
 had on a bike.  It was not hot the day I rode.  When we reached the 
 Verrazano Narrows Bridge, we rode on the lower deck in the shade and, 
 honestly, I was very cold.  We arrived the day before, stayed in Manhattan 
 and rode around the city all day -- fun!!!  At the end of the ride on 
 Staten Island, I met another rider who cycled the 50 miles on an Atlantis. 
  Years later, I purchased my own Atlantis, recalling how beautiful I 
 thought the Atlantis I saw that day was.  If you love cities, don't love 
 cars, what better thing to do than ride carless NYC streets.  There were 
 loads of cyclists on all types of bikes.  Still, I never felt crowded.  If 
 you have the time, go for this.  And, be prepared to smile at your great 
 good fortune.

 Steve Cole
 Arlington, Virginia

 On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 5:25:45 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> Roberta,
>
> Do it and take a friend. 
>
> Arrive early-ish to the start, that was the basis of my only 
> hesitations of doing it again, we had trouble finding the rental outfit 
> we 
> had arranged for a bike m wife wanted to use. Ride with amazement and awe 
> through streets of a city you'd never seen like this before and respect 
> the 
> limitations of being amongst so many other cyclists (no sudden stops or 
> turns). Riders will begin to be stretched out by the time you're out of 
> Manhattan. There are multiple facets of this ride to appreciate besides 
> the 
> strictly cycling part. Have those on you day's bucket list and you'll be 
> hooked. I'm good riding very slowly, I think that's a Rivendell handling 
> check box and it was useful in the beginning.
>
> As Dave points out, Drive to and park in Staten island at the terminal 
> lots and take the ferry over to Battery Park first thing in the morning 
> and 
> be ready to queue up at the start area. We stayed in Newark the night 
> before, just made things easier with included on-site included parking 
> and 
> restaurants. An easy trip to the ferry terminal in the morning, a very 
> simple exit for our departure (I had a longer drive that you will). the 
> convenience of proximity to the start of this event is only the sweet 
> song 
> of Lorelei and those staying in town longer.
>
> I reported previously that during the ride my orange Rambouillet was 
> called out repeatedly. I was told how well it fit me and how nice it was 
> that my wife (*and many proximate riders of much more expensive 
> "modern" bikes*) seemed irked by the repetitive attention. "Are these 
> the people you email on those bike lists?" my wife asked. It was 
> enlightening to see how many normal riders participated, very few 
> displayed 
> the "I'm going to crush this" attitude, or were bent on trying to set a 
> fastest known time imprinting the fun event with their minority raciness. 
>
> Take advantage of every organized rest stop. We did not and as it 
> became hotter and the route merged onto the Gowanus Parkway, an elevated 
> limited access roadway, going south toward the Verrazano Narrow

[RBW] Re: FS: 650b wheelset: Alex DM24 rims, Shimano dynamo front, Deore T610 rear

[Igor]

this is sold


On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 8:10:56 AM UTC-5 Igor wrote:

> 650b
> Shimano 3N72 dynamo front, Deore T610 rear
> Front wheel has a Rich Lesnik sticker, nipples are all silver. Rear wheel 
> has the colored nipples as found on Clem completes.
>
> $350 shipped. Skewers included.
>

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[RBW] Re: Price bump FS: 55cm HillborneW

[Eric Marth]

I asked about the front rack a few days ago and... no dice! 

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 5:28:48 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I would be pretty interested in that front rack if you wanted to sell that 
> off separate from the bike. If you go that way shoot me a message.
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:14:21 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ahmed is excluding a $200 saddle and $75 pedals.  He's pictured the bike 
>> without the $40 basket.  He's dropped the price a full $400, so he's paying 
>> more than retail buying back those parts from the future buyer.  
>>
>> ...but now you've added a $240 rear rack in the photos?  Is that $240 
>> included?  If so, you've dropped the price of the bike a TON.  My advice 
>> would be to take the racks off and sell them.  That rear rack (the 33R) is 
>> sold out at Riv.  Somebody has got to want that.  
>>
>> Bill "free sales consultant" Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:11:25 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have 
>>> updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:31 PM Ahmed Elgasseir  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the tips David! I’ll get on it and update the posting. Glad 
 you’re enjoying the Roadeo. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it. :-)

 Best
 A

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:14 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Ahmed,
> I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post 
> at least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite 
> individual. 
> Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and 
> represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 
> And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 
> Now you can offer the more essential Sam.
> Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive 
> side picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)
> I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.
> David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. 
>> Thank you!
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:
>>
>>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?

 A

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  
 wrote:

> Hi Ahmed, 
>
> Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the 
> rolling chassis? 
>
> Brady in SLC
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 
>>
>> Best
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>>>
>>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you 
>>> sold the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you 
>>> don't like 
>>> the saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could 
>>> also 
>>> lower the price of the remaining build.  You could do something 
>>> similar 
>>> with the front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and 
>>> currently 
>>> sold out at Riv.  
>>>
>>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to 
>>> buy a Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and 
>>> paying full 
>>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could 
>>> sell it 
>>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and 
>>> saddle.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed 
>>> Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 Let's try this again
 For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. 
 Velocity Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud 
 saddle, Nitto 
 seatpost and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks 
 bartape 
 with stem shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only 
 about 1k 
 miles on it. Selling to thin the herd and make room for another 
 build. 
 $2900 and prefer local only. W

[RBW] Brooks saddle repairs

[Eric Marth]

Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a B17 
with a twisted nose and bent rails. 

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[lconley]

Firth and Wilson Transport Cycles -> transportcycle.com

Repairs sometimes cost more than new so check first, but I do understand 
attachment to old parts.

I had them build me up a Honey B-68 from parts including a chromed B-68 
frame that I sent them with a Honey B-67 cover. I call it a B-678 
Frankensaddle. Not the cheapest saddle on the planet.

Laing

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a B17 
> with a twisted nose and bent rails. 

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Re: [RBW] Brooks saddle repairs

[Patrick Moore]

Brooks official US repair agents:
https://www.transportcycle.com/frame-shop/brooks-saddle-repair/



On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:21 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a
B17 with a twisted nose and bent rails.
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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[RichS]

Richard,

As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One 
caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it, the adhesive quality of 
cloth hbar tape has the ability to remove paint (ask me how I know!). Riv 
sells these chain stay protectors - currently out of stock - and other 
retailers also sell them in colors and I believe leather as well. They're 
tricky to install. I've only applied the clear versions. Proceed slowly 
lest you trap air bubbles between the stay and the protector. Clean the 
chain stay thoroughly; a pin is somewhat helpful to remove any bubbles; 
ideally, avoid them if you can. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector

Best,
Rich in ATL  

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:13:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on my 
> chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
> don't know what's happening under there. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
>>> lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it 
>>> wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Brooks saddle repairs

[Eric Marth]

Thank you both!

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Brooks official US repair agents: 
> https://www.transportcycle.com/frame-shop/brooks-saddle-repair/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:21 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a 
> B17 with a twisted nose and bent rails.
> >
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[RBW] Re: FS: Fab's Chest Small Waxed Field Tan with Homemade Pec Dec Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump, price drop and correction:

I believe this is a Waxed Canvas, not Waxed Cordura.

$260 net to me

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:10:41 PM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I picked up a Swift Zeitgeist today at the Swift Human Error sale that 
> will replace my Fab's Chest. This one is just too much bag for me. I'm 
> fairly certain this is the Waxed Cordura version in Field Tan (they make 
> waxed cordura and waxed canvas). This one is in great shape. I used it for 
> a few months on my cargo bike. There's a few signs of use on the outside, 
> the inside is very clean aside from a bit of loose dirt.
>
> I ended up making a few homemade pec decs out of rack struts, p clamps and 
> other misc. hardware. The pic shows the pec dec that's included installed 
> on my tandem and then one pic of it taken off. I attached it to the bag via 
> voile straps (not included). If the buyer is interested, I've got enough 
> struts and p clamps to include another set for a little extra cash.
>
> $275 net to me plus shipping
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/83zxaTwpKaRD8d2g9
>
> PM off-list
>
> Mike in Seattle
>
> PS - I'll be posting a bunch of other bike bags in the next couple days 
> that need to go to make for the new acquisitions today at the Human Error 
> Sale
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Joe Mullins]

Wow thanks for the heads up about removing paint! I wonder if a heat gun on low 
would help prevent that…

> 
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:02 AM, RichS  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One 
> caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it, the adhesive quality of cloth 
> hbar tape has the ability to remove paint (ask me how I know!). Riv sells 
> these chain stay protectors - currently out of stock - and other retailers 
> also sell them in colors and I believe leather as well. They're tricky to 
> install. I've only applied the clear versions. Proceed slowly lest you trap 
> air bubbles between the stay and the protector. Clean the chain stay 
> thoroughly; a pin is somewhat helpful to remove any bubbles; ideally, avoid 
> them if you can. 
> 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL  
> 
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:13:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on my 
>> chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
>> don't know what's happening under there. 
>> 
>> Joe Bernard
>> 
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>> 
 On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
 of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it 
 wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
> 
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Re: [RBW] Brooks saddle repairs

[Joe Mullins]

Has anyone ever repaired an old old B-17 with a tear in the leather? After 
sitting for nearly 20 years, I took my fathers old Brooks from 1975, threw some 
Proofide on it and began using it. Unfortunately it was still totally dried out 
deep within and it tore slightly right where the sit bone lands. I’d love to be 
able to keep using it if it can be repaired! Thanks!

> 
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Brooks official US repair agents: 
>> https://www.transportcycle.com/frame-shop/brooks-saddle-repair/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:21 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>> >
>> > Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a B17 
>> > with a twisted nose and bent rails.
>> >
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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Ryan]

It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap 
guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets 

Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't recall 
this option ever coming up on my last two customs...and I'm not fussing 
about it too much.

So, Joe, did you have to request the 3M wrapping specifically? 







On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:13:36 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on my 
> chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
> don't know what's happening under there. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
>>> lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it 
>>> wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[R Shannon]

Or, avoid the guesswork and use one of the other less invasive methods
recommended.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:04 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:

> Wow thanks for the heads up about removing paint! I wonder if a heat gun
> on low would help prevent that…
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:02 AM, RichS  wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One
> caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it, the adhesive quality of
> cloth hbar tape has the ability to remove paint (ask me how I know!). Riv
> sells these chain stay protectors - currently out of stock - and other
> retailers also sell them in colors and I believe leather as well. They're
> tricky to install. I've only applied the clear versions. Proceed slowly
> lest you trap air bubbles between the stay and the protector. Clean the
> chain stay thoroughly; a pin is somewhat helpful to remove any bubbles;
> ideally, avoid them if you can.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:13:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on
>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get
>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I
>> don't know what's happening under there.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see
 lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it
 wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[R Shannon]

One other observation. My Sam and Atlantis from 2014-15 came with clear
chain stay protectors. Formerly standard equipment but now an option.

Best,
Rich in ATL



On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:23 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap
> guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets
>
> Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't recall
> this option ever coming up on my last two customs...and I'm not fussing
> about it too much.
>
> So, Joe, did you have to request the 3M wrapping specifically?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:13:36 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on
>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get
>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I
>> don't know what's happening under there.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see
 lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it
 wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Matthew Williams]

Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
$2100
Athens, GA
https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html


Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
$3000
Indianapolis, IN
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html


Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
$2400
Indianapolis, IN 
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html


Clem Smith: 52cm
$2250
Ann Arbor, MI
https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html


Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
$1300
Los Angeles, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html


Sam Hillborne: 51cm
$3500
Seattle, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html


A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
$3200
Rohnert Park, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html


Sam Hillborne: 55cm
$2500
San Mateo, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html


Sam Hillborne: 58cm
$2500
Oakland, CA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534


Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
$2200
Livermore, CA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221


Clem Smith Jr. L
$2500
Midland, MI
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672


Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
$1050
Annandale, VA
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844


Glorius Mixte: 52cm
$2700
Austin, TX
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568


Appaloosa: 57cm
C$5000
Montréal, QC
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150


Protovelo: 58cm
$1299
New York, NY
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[lconley]

My Rivendell Custom came with extensive clear film over the chain stay. It 
is basically invisible, didn't know it was there until I was working on it 
real close up one day and saw the edge lines. Most of my other Rivendells 
came with a single clear piece of film like what they sell. I tried to go 
old school and get my stays chrome plated but that was a no-go with Grant.
The only Rivendell complete that I ever purchased has a clear chainstay 
protector that is dying of old age and twine wrapped kickstand. Interesting 
thing about the kickstand is that the twine is not where the crank contacts 
the kickstand, must have come from another bike.

Laing

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:23:28 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap 
> guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets 
>
> Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't recall 
> this option ever coming up on my last two customs...and I'm not fussing 
> about it too much.
>
> So, Joe, did you have to request the 3M wrapping specifically? 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:13:36 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on 
>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
>> don't know what's happening under there. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
 lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like 
 it 
 wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Patrick Moore]

You can, or could, get NOS steel chainstay protectors a few years ago on
eBay. I found a couple from a US seller.

The closest thing I found just now on a quick search is this, UK and
aluminum:

https://www.velobitz.co.uk/chainstay-protectors/velobitz-vintage-retro-plain-aluminium-chainstay-protector-self-adhesive

Long ago (I was 16 or so) when a heavy 1/8" chain on a smallish ring and
cogs with lightly sprung derailleur cage would bounce on the stay over
bumps, I cut a "silver" cs protector out of the "tinned" inside of a tin
can, with tabs on each end to bolt it under the stay,  It looked good (or
so I thought then) and worked well.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:08 PM lconley  wrote:

> My Rivendell Custom came with extensive clear film over the chain stay. It
> is basically invisible, didn't know it was there until I was working on it
> real close up one day and saw the edge lines. Most of my other Rivendells
> came with a single clear piece of film like what they sell. I tried to go
> old school and get my stays chrome plated but that was a no-go with Grant.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[David Person]

My 2015 Sam came with a clear protector too that is nearly invisible.  When 
I wanted something similar for my Surly I purchased one of these Wheels 
Manufacturing clear chainstay protectors off eBay.  Looks excellent.  Now, 
the chainstays on the Sam (463 mm and on the Surly 450 mm) are nowhere near 
the length of those on the newer Rivs, so that is to be taken info 
consideration.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392234836245?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 11:22:12 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> You can, or could, get NOS steel chainstay protectors a few years ago on 
> eBay. I found a couple from a US seller.
>
> The closest thing I found just now on a quick search is this, UK and 
> aluminum:
>
>
> https://www.velobitz.co.uk/chainstay-protectors/velobitz-vintage-retro-plain-aluminium-chainstay-protector-self-adhesive
>
> Long ago (I was 16 or so) when a heavy 1/8" chain on a smallish ring and 
> cogs with lightly sprung derailleur cage would bounce on the stay over 
> bumps, I cut a "silver" cs protector out of the "tinned" inside of a tin 
> can, with tabs on each end to bolt it under the stay,  It looked good (or 
> so I thought then) and worked well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:08 PM lconley  wrote:
>
>> My Rivendell Custom came with extensive clear film over the chain stay. 
>> It is basically invisible, didn't know it was there until I was working on 
>> it real close up one day and saw the edge lines. Most of my other 
>> Rivendells came with a single clear piece of film like what they sell. I 
>> tried to go old school and get my stays chrome plated but that was a no-go 
>> with Grant.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Joe Bernard]

Ryan,

My experience is just like Laing's, the whole chainstay is wrapped and I 
didn't notice for months. 

What I believe Grant means by "slap guard" is those old timey braze-ons 
touring bikes used to have that you would stretch a piece of leather 
between. He's not a stickler for paint staying pretty and probably thinks 
the clear stuff isn't necessary, either.*

*In fact he'd probably be appalled at how pristine my custom still is after 
a year and a half. I don't like scratches! 😬

Joe Bernard  

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap 
> guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets 
>
> Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't recall 
> this option ever coming up on my last two customs...and I'm not fussing 
> about it too much.
>
> So, Joe, did you have to request the 3M wrapping specifically? 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:13:36 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on 
>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
>> don't know what's happening under there. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
 lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like 
 it 
 wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?

John

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Johnny Alien]

That Glorius is amazing

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
> $2100
> Athens, GA
>
> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>
>
> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
> $3000
> Indianapolis, IN
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> $2400
> Indianapolis, IN 
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>
>
> Clem Smith: 52cm
> $2250
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
> $1300
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
> $3500
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
> $3200
> Rohnert Park, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
> $2500
> San Mateo, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
> $2500
> Oakland, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
> $2200
> Livermore, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L
> $2500
> Midland, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
> $1050
> Annandale, VA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>
>
> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
> $2700
> Austin, TX
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>
>
> Appaloosa: 57cm
> C$5000
> Montréal, QC
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>
>
> Protovelo: 58cm
> $1299
> New York, NY
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Richard Rose]

The Athens, Georgia one does not pop up. 
Midland, Mi Clem is sold - I bought it.:)
Ann Arbor one has been parted out.
FYI

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> That Glorius is amazing
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>> $2100
>> Athens, GA
>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>> 
>> 
>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>> $3000
>> Indianapolis, IN
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>> 
>> 
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>> $2400
>> Indianapolis, IN 
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>> 
>> 
>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>> $2250
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>> 
>> 
>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>> $1300
>> Los Angeles, CA
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>> 
>> 
>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>> $3500
>> Seattle, WA
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>> 
>> 
>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>> $3200
>> Rohnert Park, CA
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>> 
>> 
>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>> $2500
>> San Mateo, CA
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>> 
>> 
>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>> $2500
>> Oakland, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>> 
>> 
>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>> $2200
>> Livermore, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>> 
>> 
>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>> $2500
>> Midland, MI
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>> 
>> 
>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>> $1050
>> Annandale, VA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>> 
>> 
>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>> $2700
>> Austin, TX
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>> 
>> 
>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>> C$5000
>> Montréal, QC
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>> 
>> 
>> Protovelo: 58cm
>> $1299
>> New York, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Bernard]

I want that Glorius but I'd be so tempted to ship it straight to Joe 
Bell for very expensive paint. Probably not the best idea! 😜 💸💸💸

The Athens Clem L is Doug H's, I think he sold it this morning. 



On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:36:43 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> That Glorius is amazing
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>> $2100
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>>
>>
>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>> $3000
>> Indianapolis, IN
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>> $2400
>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>> $2250
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>> $1300
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>> $3500
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>>
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>> $3200
>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>> $2500
>> San Mateo, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>> $2500
>> Oakland, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>> $2200
>> Livermore, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>> $2500
>> Midland, MI
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>> $1050
>> Annandale, VA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>>
>>
>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>> $2700
>> Austin, TX
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>>
>>
>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>> C$5000
>> Montréal, QC
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>
>>
>> Protovelo: 58cm
>> $1299
>> New York, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Ryan]

Oops...the fingernail test reveals that my 2001 Road and 2016 Mixte do have 
that clear protector you and Laing are talking about. They are Joe Bell 
paint jobs The allrounder is um...rather dusty, so I'm not going there. 
That was a Waterford which may or may not have the clear wrap...there is 
clear wrap over the "handcrafted in Waterford Wisconsin" on the non-drive 
side chainstay

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:56:33 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ryan,
>
> My experience is just like Laing's, the whole chainstay is wrapped and I 
> didn't notice for months. 
>
> What I believe Grant means by "slap guard" is those old timey braze-ons 
> touring bikes used to have that you would stretch a piece of leather 
> between. He's not a stickler for paint staying pretty and probably thinks 
> the clear stuff isn't necessary, either.*
>
> *In fact he'd probably be appalled at how pristine my custom still is 
> after a year and a half. I don't like scratches! 😬
>
> Joe Bernard  
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap 
>> guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required.
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets 
>>
>> Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't 
>> recall this option ever coming up on my last two customs...and I'm not 
>> fussing about it too much.
>>
>> So, Joe, did you have to request the 3M wrapping specifically? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:13:36 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on 
>>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
>>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
>>> don't know what's happening under there. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>>
 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 

 On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
> lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like 
> it 
> wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?



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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Ryan]

Oh Wow! Barn find???

Paint around the head lugs looks a little rough, like some sort of rust 
bloom or something..color looks meh because of dust and discoloration, but 
probably  nice in 2005...and that dark roast coffee color just screams for 
cream accents.

Definitely an orphan in need of a good home

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:46:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I want that Glorius but I'd be so tempted to ship it straight to Joe 
> Bell for very expensive paint. Probably not the best idea! 😜 💸💸💸
>
> The Athens Clem L is Doug H's, I think he sold it this morning. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:36:43 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> That Glorius is amazing
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>>> $2100
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
>>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>>> $3000
>>> Indianapolis, IN
>>>
>>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>>> $2400
>>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>>
>>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>>> $2250
>>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>>
>>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>>> $1300
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>>> $3500
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>>>
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>>> $3200
>>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>>> $2500
>>> San Mateo, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>>> $2500
>>> Oakland, CA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>>> $2200
>>> Livermore, CA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>>> $2500
>>> Midland, MI
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>>> $1050
>>> Annandale, VA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>>>
>>>
>>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>>> $2700
>>> Austin, TX
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>>>
>>>
>>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>>> C$5000
>>> Montréal, QC
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>>
>>>
>>> Protovelo: 58cm
>>> $1299
>>> New York, NY
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[sam . perez . 2002]

I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 4 bolt 
stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
> 
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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[Michael Morrissey]

Try Rudimeyr at gmail.com.

He rebuilds Brooks saddles.

I have two of his saddles and they are lovely.

M


On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a B17 
> with a twisted nose and bent rails. 

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[Eric Marth]

Cool, thanks Michael!

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:59:21 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Try Rudimeyr at gmail.com.
>
> He rebuilds Brooks saddles.
>
> I have two of his saddles and they are lovely.
>
> M
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a 
>> B17 with a twisted nose and bent rails. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[Eric Marth]

Michael – Must be a typo in the address you provided, it kicked back as 
"address not found". I used Rudimeyr as you suggested.  

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 5:15:27 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Cool, thanks Michael!
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:59:21 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Try Rudimeyr at gmail.com.
>>
>> He rebuilds Brooks saddles.
>>
>> I have two of his saddles and they are lovely.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a 
>>> B17 with a twisted nose and bent rails. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Bernard]

It's one of the clearcoat-over-raw frames Riv did in the later '00s. That 
gave up on it for exactly the reason you state, the steel starts to rust 
under the coat and freaks people out. I briefly owned a Bombadil with this 
and didn't like it (the finish) much, I sold it to listmember Jason. He 
painted it! 


On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Oh Wow! Barn find???
>
> Paint around the head lugs looks a little rough, like some sort of rust 
> bloom or something..color looks meh because of dust and discoloration, but 
> probably  nice in 2005...and that dark roast coffee color just screams for 
> cream accents.
>
> Definitely an orphan in need of a good home
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:46:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I want that Glorius but I'd be so tempted to ship it straight to Joe 
>> Bell for very expensive paint. Probably not the best idea! 😜 💸💸💸
>>
>> The Athens Clem L is Doug H's, I think he sold it this morning. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:36:43 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> That Glorius is amazing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
 $2100
 Athens, GA

 https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html


 Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
 $3000
 Indianapolis, IN

 https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html


 Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
 $2400
 Indianapolis, IN 

 https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html


 Clem Smith: 52cm
 $2250
 Ann Arbor, MI

 https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html


 Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
 $1300
 Los Angeles, CA

 https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html


 Sam Hillborne: 51cm
 $3500
 Seattle, WA

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html


 A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
 $3200
 Rohnert Park, CA

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html


 Sam Hillborne: 55cm
 $2500
 San Mateo, CA

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html


 Sam Hillborne: 58cm
 $2500
 Oakland, CA
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534


 Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
 $2200
 Livermore, CA
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221


 Clem Smith Jr. L
 $2500
 Midland, MI
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672


 Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
 $1050
 Annandale, VA
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844


 Glorius Mixte: 52cm
 $2700
 Austin, TX
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568


 Appaloosa: 57cm
 C$5000
 Montréal, QC
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150


 Protovelo: 58cm
 $1299
 New York, NY
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434

>>>

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Eric Marth]

This one is a stunner. I love the look of the raw steel frames especially 
with brass brazing... I don't mind the look of the rusty brown though I 
would worry about corrosion and maintenance of course. 

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 5:29:21 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It's one of the clearcoat-over-raw frames Riv did in the later '00s. That 
> gave up on it for exactly the reason you state, the steel starts to rust 
> under the coat and freaks people out. I briefly owned a Bombadil with this 
> and didn't like it (the finish) much, I sold it to listmember Jason. He 
> painted it! 
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:59:30 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Oh Wow! Barn find???
>>
>> Paint around the head lugs looks a little rough, like some sort of rust 
>> bloom or something..color looks meh because of dust and discoloration, but 
>> probably  nice in 2005...and that dark roast coffee color just screams for 
>> cream accents.
>>
>> Definitely an orphan in need of a good home
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:46:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I want that Glorius but I'd be so tempted to ship it straight to Joe 
>>> Bell for very expensive paint. Probably not the best idea! 😜 💸💸💸
>>>
>>> The Athens Clem L is Doug H's, I think he sold it this morning. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:36:43 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 That Glorius is amazing

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
> $2100
> Athens, GA
>
> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>
>
> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
> $3000
> Indianapolis, IN
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> $2400
> Indianapolis, IN 
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>
>
> Clem Smith: 52cm
> $2250
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
> $1300
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
> $3500
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
> $3200
> Rohnert Park, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
> $2500
> San Mateo, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
> $2500
> Oakland, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
> $2200
> Livermore, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L
> $2500
> Midland, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
> $1050
> Annandale, VA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>
>
> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
> $2700
> Austin, TX
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>
>
> Appaloosa: 57cm
> C$5000
> Montréal, QC
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>
>
> Protovelo: 58cm
> $1299
> New York, NY
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>


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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Roberta]

What PBH would fit this 52 cm Glorious?  

Glorius Mixte: 52cm
$2700
Austin, TX
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
> $2100
> Athens, GA
>
> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>
>
> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
> $3000
> Indianapolis, IN
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> $2400
> Indianapolis, IN 
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>
>
> Clem Smith: 52cm
> $2250
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
> $1300
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
> $3500
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
> $3200
> Rohnert Park, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
> $2500
> San Mateo, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
> $2500
> Oakland, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
> $2200
> Livermore, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L
> $2500
> Midland, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
> $1050
> Annandale, VA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>
>
> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
> $2700
> Austin, TX
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>
>
> Appaloosa: 57cm
> C$5000
> Montréal, QC
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>
>
> Protovelo: 58cm
> $1299
> New York, NY
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Johnny Alien]

Probably pretty similar to a Betty Foy 52 as thats the model that came out 
after the Glorius and also used 650B wheels. Rivendell says 70-81 for the 
BF in the 52 size.

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:19:30 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> What PBH would fit this 52 cm Glorious?  
>
> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
> $2700
> Austin, TX
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>> $2100
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>>
>>
>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>> $3000
>> Indianapolis, IN
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>> $2400
>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>> $2250
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>> $1300
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>> $3500
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>>
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>> $3200
>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>> $2500
>> San Mateo, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>> $2500
>> Oakland, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>> $2200
>> Livermore, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>> $2500
>> Midland, MI
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>> $1050
>> Annandale, VA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>>
>>
>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>> $2700
>> Austin, TX
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>>
>>
>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>> C$5000
>> Montréal, QC
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>
>>
>> Protovelo: 58cm
>> $1299
>> New York, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Mullins]

This is such a beautiful bike. I’ve always loved the look of clear coated raw 
steel. I hope someone gets to give this “new” bike a good home!

Joe

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> Probably pretty similar to a Betty Foy 52 as thats the model that came out 
> after the Glorius and also used 650B wheels. Rivendell says 70-81 for the BF 
> in the 52 size.
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:19:30 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>> What PBH would fit this 52 cm Glorious?  
>> 
>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>> $2700
>> Austin, TX
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>>> $2100
>>> Athens, GA
>>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>>> $3000
>>> Indianapolis, IN
>>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>>> $2400
>>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>>> $2250
>>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>>> $1300
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>>> $3500
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>>> $3200
>>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>>> $2500
>>> San Mateo, CA
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>>> $2500
>>> Oakland, CA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>>> $2200
>>> Livermore, CA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>>> $2500
>>> Midland, MI
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>>> $1050
>>> Annandale, VA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>>> $2700
>>> Austin, TX
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>>> C$5000
>>> Montréal, QC
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Protovelo: 58cm
>>> $1299
>>> New York, NY
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

"Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍

That gave me a chuckle.

John

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
> Oh, I found it. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 4 
>> bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Bernard]

Roberta,

Here's the geometry chart I had buried somewhere in my phone. Effective 
toptube 57.5. Do you have a 54 Homer? That bike is 57cm ETT so very close. 

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 3:19:30 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> What PBH would fit this 52 cm Glorious?  
>
> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
> $2700
> Austin, TX
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 52cm
>> $2100
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html
>>
>>
>> Hubbuhhubbuh: Large/Medium
>> $3000
>> Indianapolis, IN
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7442843686.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
>> $2400
>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith: 52cm
>> $2250
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7436783168.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
>> $1300
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7442728957.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 51cm
>> $3500
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/d/kirkland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7442678714.html
>>
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen: 64cm
>> $3200
>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7441960344.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 55cm
>> $2500
>> San Mateo, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-sam-hillborne-55cm/7439587278.html
>>
>>
>> Sam Hillborne: 58cm
>> $2500
>> Oakland, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1261836544329534
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
>> $2200
>> Livermore, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L
>> $2500
>> Midland, MI
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
>> $1050
>> Annandale, VA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844
>>
>>
>> Glorius Mixte: 52cm
>> $2700
>> Austin, TX
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/398882232009568
>>
>>
>> Appaloosa: 57cm
>> C$5000
>> Montréal, QC
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>
>>
>> Protovelo: 58cm
>> $1299
>> New York, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/262568405858434
>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Ryan Frahm]

Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
Because I’m in! Haha

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
>> Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 
>>> 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[Roberta]

Simon at Firth and Wilson in Philadlelphia has “the” reputation. Nice guy 
too. 
On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a B17 
> with a twisted nose and bent rails. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Billy Bar

[Glen]

Thanks to a list member I have a pair on the way. 

Thanks for heads up on Analog, others must be looking as they sold out 
today.

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:28:20 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Analog Cycles appears to have one in stock.
>
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:41:17 PM UTC-5 Glen wrote:
>
>> I am in the process of a winter upgrade and before I rewrap a pair of 
>> albatross bars I am hoping someone has a Billy Bar in their parts stash 
>> that they would like to part with. 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Richard Rose]

My Clem came with a single layer of clear material protection. Hard to see but 
it is there. Seems inadequate though? That is a long chain & I imagine it might 
sag quite a bit at times. In addition the cable running below the stay nearly 
hugs the stay. On other bikes I have experience paint scuffing from similarly 
close cables. Don’t get me wrong - I know bikes that get ridden will not remain 
perfect. But an extra layer of clear protection cannot hurt.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can, or could, get NOS steel chainstay protectors a few years ago on 
> eBay. I found a couple from a US seller.
> 
> The closest thing I found just now on a quick search is this, UK and aluminum:
> 
> https://www.velobitz.co.uk/chainstay-protectors/velobitz-vintage-retro-plain-aluminium-chainstay-protector-self-adhesive
> 
> Long ago (I was 16 or so) when a heavy 1/8" chain on a smallish ring and cogs 
> with lightly sprung derailleur cage would bounce on the stay over bumps, I 
> cut a "silver" cs protector out of the "tinned" inside of a tin can, with 
> tabs on each end to bolt it under the stay,  It looked good (or so I thought 
> then) and worked well.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:08 PM lconley  wrote:
>> My Rivendell Custom came with extensive clear film over the chain stay. It 
>> is basically invisible, didn't know it was there until I was working on it 
>> real close up one day and saw the edge lines. Most of my other Rivendells 
>> came with a single clear piece of film like what they sell. I tried to go 
>> old school and get my stays chrome plated but that was a no-go with Grant.
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Matthew Williams]

Clem Smith Jr. Frameset: 64cm
$995
Annandale, VA
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/annandale-64cm-clem-smith-jr-frameset/7443642401.html

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[RBW] WTB 55-56cm Rivendell Atlantis

[Bruce Smitham]

Prefer frameset but OK with a full build.

Thanks,

Bruce in San Diego

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Nick Payne]

My experience is that the clear stick-on plastic chainstay protection lasts 
for decades without visible deterioration. My late 90s Riv custom came with 
one installed, and it's still in place without visible damage - in fact 
it's very hard to see unless you look closely. And on my Bleriot, as well 
as chainstay protection, I also fitted some protection along the top tube, 
because the bare brake cable runs at about 2 o'clock along there and my leg 
presses it into the tube whenever I stop at an intersection. So I protected 
the paintwork shortly after I started riding the bike (about 15 years ago) 
by sticking some transparent plastic along the top tube where the cable 
would rub, and it similarly is pretty much invisible unless I point it out 
to people.

I didn't buy the stick-on frame protector kits that bike shops sell. I went 
to a motorbike shop and bought several sheets of the 3M film intended for 
paint protection (each sheet was about 12" x 15") and cut the sizes and 
shapes I wanted from that. I still have a couple of the sheets left, 
waiting to be used.

Nick

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[RBW] Wanted: black Brooks Flyer

[luckyturnip]

Greetings:

Anyone have a used black Brooks Flyer for sale? Reply directly please. I’m in 
Sacramento. 

Thanks! 

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