[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Eric Daume]

Hi Keith,

Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a VO
Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little more
upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging.

Eric

On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:

> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or
> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might
> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a
> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus
>> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though my
>> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a
>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes
>> similarly tall people picked.
>>
>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge of
>> the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range.
>>
>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City OH
>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish
>> but still old schoolish
>> 
>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS 2020 Orange Roadini 61 cm

[Kushan]

With more pictures 


On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 8:51:36 PM UTC-8 Kushan wrote:

> Looking to find a new home for this beloved bike. 
>
> Photos 
> 
>
> - 2020 61cm in Orange paint scheme
> - Built for shorter reach (5 cm Nitto Technomic Stem, Nitto M151 drop bars 
> 
>  
> in 46 cm width)
> - Velocity Atlas wheelset, 36h front and back
> - Gravel King SS 35 mm (less than 100 miles)
> - Silver Triple front (28 x 36 x 46) with 175 mm cranks
> - Silver1 shifters mounted on the downtube
> - Shimano Tiagra Aero brake levers
> - Stock Rivendell BB, seatpost, and FSA headset
> - Shimano Acera rear derailer with 8-speed 11-34 cassette
> - Shimano BR-451 medium reach caliper brakes
> - SKS-45 Fenders in Silver (not installed)
> - One steel bottle cage
> - Brooks Saddle is NOT INCLUDED
>
> I have put about 1000 miles on the bike so far and have maintained it in 
> good condition. Seatpost and Crank arms have some scratches but the frame 
> and other components are more or less scot-free. I can also include an 
> additional pair of Gravel King 38mm Slicks for $50 (have about 600 miles on 
> them). 
>
> I am moving to the Pacific Northwest and don't expect to do a lot of 
> fender-free road riding with skinny tires. So figured that I will pass this 
> on to someone who will actually ride it. 
>
> Asking $1500 for the full bike. I am not looking to sell the frame only - 
> unless someone else here can also take the wheels and tires (I don't have 
> any use for them). 
>
> First looking to sell locally within SF Bay Area. If I am not able to find 
> a local buyer in a couple of weeks, I will consider shipping. Open to 
> interesting trades as long as they are road-ish, made of steel, and can 
> take 38 to 42 mm tires with fenders. 
>
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[a spen]

Hey Eric,
You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours and 
I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably recommend  
either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are riding 
Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth mentioning that 
your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with it's 
tight cockpit. They are great rides!
Al




On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> Hi Keith,
>
> Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a VO 
> Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little more 
> upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:
>
>> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or 
>> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might 
>> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a 
>> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>>
>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus 
>>> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though my 
>>> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a 
>>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes 
>>> similarly tall people picked.
>>>
>>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge 
>>> of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>>>
>>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Plain City OH
>>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
>>> but still old schoolish 
>>>  
>>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>>
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Eric Daume]

Hi Al,

Do you think the Riv’s cockpit is really that much shorter than the
Jones’s? It’s hard to understand this when both companies hide their geo
charts.

I was pretty comfy on my Jones with their bar and a 90mm or so stem. This
might make think more about the 56cm Slugstone.

Eric

On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:

> Hey Eric,
> You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours
> and I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably
> recommend  either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are
> riding Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth mentioning
> that your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with
> it's tight cockpit. They are great rides!
> Al
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a VO
>> Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little more
>> upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>>> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or
>>> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might
>>> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a
>>> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus
 frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though my
 bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a
 Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes
 similarly tall people picked.

 I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge
 of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range.

 What did you pick? How about a picture?

 Thanks,

 Eric
 Plain City OH
 where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish
 but still old schoolish
 
 mountain bike to help my bike fund

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[RBW] Re: Help Needed to Get Back the iBob Google Group

[Michael Iauch]

im in the same situation. can you give me the contact info for one of the 
folks mentioned above?

Michael 
Boone, NC

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:34:48 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Problem solved.  Peter Bridge added me back.  Everything works
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 6:56:55 PM UTC-5 Jock Dewey wrote:
>
>> Contact Steve Palincsar, he'll fix it for you like he just did for me.
>>
>> BEST / Jock Dewey
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:48:12 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Help,  Yesterday, 11/15, I lost the iBob Google group from the My Groups
>>>
>>> list.   I still have the RBW group and 650B, but IBob list disappeared. 
>>>
>>> I could not find it using the Google Search feature (using All Groups 
>>> and Messages).
>>>
>>>  Please Help
>>>
>>>  John Hawrylak
>>>
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Bill Lindsay]

I interpreted Al's comment to mean that the Jones will be *shorter* than a 
Rivendell Gus/Susie, not the other way around.  The effective TT lengths 
and front center dimensions for the Gus and Susie should be about the 
longest of any bikes anywhere, because they are imagining you would want to 
use one of their handlebar models with several inches of sweepback.  Will 
can share the numbers with you.  They aren't hiding the numbers, it's just 
not a super high priority for them.  Bike Insights has a Large Gus 
documented and the Effective TT is 67.5cm and the front center is 75cm.  
That's long.  The Large Jones LWB on BikeInsights has a 4cm shorter 
effective TT (63.5cm).

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 8:12:27 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:

> Hi Al,
>
> Do you think the Riv’s cockpit is really that much shorter than the 
> Jones’s? It’s hard to understand this when both companies hide their geo 
> charts. 
>
> I was pretty comfy on my Jones with their bar and a 90mm or so stem. This 
> might make think more about the 56cm Slugstone. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:
>
>> Hey Eric,
>> You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours 
>> and I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably 
>> recommend  either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are 
>> riding Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth mentioning 
>> that your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with 
>> it's tight cockpit. They are great rides!
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a VO 
>>> Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little more 
>>> upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:
>>>
 What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or 
 leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might 
 help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a 
 long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.

 On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus 
> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though 
> my 
> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a 
> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes 
> similarly tall people picked.
>
> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge 
> of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>
> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> Plain City OH
> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
> but still old schoolish 
>  
> mountain bike to help my bike fund
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[a spen]

Ahh, yes, thank you for the clarification. I can easily see the confusion 
with how I worded it.  Bill, you are correct, the Susie/Gus will be notably 
longer with their reach.  
I could never quite get comfortable on my Jones due to feeling too 
cramped.  This is not a problem with Gus/Susie, very comfy and roomy, made 
to be used with bars that sweep back.
A side note, my 5'11 daughter is able to comfortably ride my Gus, though I 
wouldn't recommend the the L, not the XL, as her permanent ride.
Thanks again for pitching in, Bill.


On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I interpreted Al's comment to mean that the Jones will be *shorter* than 
> a Rivendell Gus/Susie, not the other way around.  The effective TT lengths 
> and front center dimensions for the Gus and Susie should be about the 
> longest of any bikes anywhere, because they are imagining you would want to 
> use one of their handlebar models with several inches of sweepback.  Will 
> can share the numbers with you.  They aren't hiding the numbers, it's just 
> not a super high priority for them.  Bike Insights has a Large Gus 
> documented and the Effective TT is 67.5cm and the front center is 75cm.  
> That's long.  The Large Jones LWB on BikeInsights has a 4cm shorter 
> effective TT (63.5cm).
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 8:12:27 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Hi Al,
>>
>> Do you think the Riv’s cockpit is really that much shorter than the 
>> Jones’s? It’s hard to understand this when both companies hide their geo 
>> charts. 
>>
>> I was pretty comfy on my Jones with their bar and a 90mm or so stem. This 
>> might make think more about the 56cm Slugstone. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Eric,
>>> You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours 
>>> and I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably 
>>> recommend  either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are 
>>> riding Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth mentioning 
>>> that your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with 
>>> it's tight cockpit. They are great rides!
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>> Hi Keith,

 Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a 
 VO Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little 
 more upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging. 

 Eric

 On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:

> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or 
> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might 
> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a 
> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus 
>> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though 
>> my 
>> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a 
>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes 
>> similarly tall people picked.
>>
>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper 
>> edge of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>>
>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City OH
>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
>> but still old schoolish 
>>  
>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[a spen]

typo--I wouldn't recommend the XL for her long term, but I would recommend 
the Large.  
--sheesh

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 12:43:45 PM UTC-5 a spen wrote:

> Ahh, yes, thank you for the clarification. I can easily see the confusion 
> with how I worded it.  Bill, you are correct, the Susie/Gus will be notably 
> longer with their reach.  
> I could never quite get comfortable on my Jones due to feeling too 
> cramped.  This is not a problem with Gus/Susie, very comfy and roomy, made 
> to be used with bars that sweep back.
> A side note, my 5'11 daughter is able to comfortably ride my Gus, though I 
> wouldn't recommend the the L, not the XL, as her permanent ride.
> Thanks again for pitching in, Bill.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I interpreted Al's comment to mean that the Jones will be *shorter* than 
>> a Rivendell Gus/Susie, not the other way around.  The effective TT lengths 
>> and front center dimensions for the Gus and Susie should be about the 
>> longest of any bikes anywhere, because they are imagining you would want to 
>> use one of their handlebar models with several inches of sweepback.  Will 
>> can share the numbers with you.  They aren't hiding the numbers, it's just 
>> not a super high priority for them.  Bike Insights has a Large Gus 
>> documented and the Effective TT is 67.5cm and the front center is 75cm.  
>> That's long.  The Large Jones LWB on BikeInsights has a 4cm shorter 
>> effective TT (63.5cm).
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 8:12:27 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Al,
>>>
>>> Do you think the Riv’s cockpit is really that much shorter than the 
>>> Jones’s? It’s hard to understand this when both companies hide their geo 
>>> charts. 
>>>
>>> I was pretty comfy on my Jones with their bar and a 90mm or so stem. 
>>> This might make think more about the 56cm Slugstone. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:
>>>
 Hey Eric,
 You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours 
 and I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably 
 recommend  either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are 
 riding Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth 
 mentioning 
 that your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with 
 it's tight cockpit. They are great rides!
 Al




 On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

>>> Hi Keith,
>
> Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a 
> VO Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little 
> more upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:
>
>> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or 
>> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might 
>> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a 
>> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>>
>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and 
>>> Gus frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even 
>>> though 
>>> my bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering 
>>> a 
>>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other 
>>> sizes 
>>> similarly tall people picked.
>>>
>>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper 
>>> edge of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>>>
>>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Plain City OH
>>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
>>> but still old schoolish 
>>>  
>>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>>
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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Eric Daume]

Hi Al,

I understood what you wrote just fine, I just flipped around the models
when I typed out my response.

Bikeinsights is a definitely a good resource. I wish they listed the stack
and reach for these bikes—the very slack seat tube angle on these models
distorts the ETT quite a bit. Still, the 56 Susie pencils out pretty close
to large Jones LWB, a bike I was comfortable on. Something to chew on.

Eric

On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:

> Ahh, yes, thank you for the clarification. I can easily see the confusion
> with how I worded it.  Bill, you are correct, the Susie/Gus will be notably
> longer with their reach.
> I could never quite get comfortable on my Jones due to feeling too
> cramped.  This is not a problem with Gus/Susie, very comfy and roomy, made
> to be used with bars that sweep back.
> A side note, my 5'11 daughter is able to comfortably ride my Gus, though I
> wouldn't recommend the the L, not the XL, as her permanent ride.
> Thanks again for pitching in, Bill.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I interpreted Al's comment to mean that the Jones will be *shorter* than
>> a Rivendell Gus/Susie, not the other way around.  The effective TT lengths
>> and front center dimensions for the Gus and Susie should be about the
>> longest of any bikes anywhere, because they are imagining you would want to
>> use one of their handlebar models with several inches of sweepback.  Will
>> can share the numbers with you.  They aren't hiding the numbers, it's just
>> not a super high priority for them.  Bike Insights has a Large Gus
>> documented and the Effective TT is 67.5cm and the front center is 75cm.
>> That's long.  The Large Jones LWB on BikeInsights has a 4cm shorter
>> effective TT (63.5cm).
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 8:12:27 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Al,
>>>
>>> Do you think the Riv’s cockpit is really that much shorter than the
>>> Jones’s? It’s hard to understand this when both companies hide their geo
>>> charts.
>>>
>>> I was pretty comfy on my Jones with their bar and a 90mm or so stem.
>>> This might make think more about the 56cm Slugstone.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021, a spen  wrote:
>>>
 Hey Eric,
 You may recall that my numbers are just a couple inches more than yours
 and I own/owned an XL/60cm Gus and a 59 Susie.  I would comfortably
 recommend  either one of those larger sizes for you, especially if you are
 riding Jones bars.  I know you already know this, but it's worth mentioning
 that your riding posture will be much different from your Jones LWB, with
 it's tight cockpit. They are great rides!
 Al




 On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

>>> Hi Keith,
>
> Good question on the bars. I would likely use either a Jones bar or a
> VO Curvy (similar to the Nitto Wavie). I’m probably aiming for a little
> more upright position—this won’t be my bike for hard charging.
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021, iamkeith  wrote:
>
>> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or
>> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might
>> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a
>> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>>
>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and
>>> Gus frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even 
>>> though
>>> my bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering 
>>> a
>>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes
>>> similarly tall people picked.
>>>
>>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper
>>> edge of the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range.
>>>
>>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Plain City OH
>>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish
>>> but still old schoolish
>>> 
>>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>>
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[RBW] Incoming

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

About 15 years ago I bought a new Saluki, very pale green.  The bike was a 
56cm, same as my custom but was too big.  I sold it barely used and when 
the Bleriot was available got a 55CM.  It seemed fine but after a 10 year 
layoff due to back surgery and fear of riding and injuring my back further 
Covid got me back out.  Since the back surgery I lost about 1 1/2 to 2 
inches of height but that should not have affected standover.  Well the 
Bleriot is slightly large, I have relative little if any clearance, I 
probably was oblivious to this when I was riding it way back when, I simply 
knew it was comfortable to ride and loved it.   So a 14 year old bike was 
ridden for about 4 years prior to a car accident and now another 2 seasons 
(with lesser miles per season due to age and physical changes).  It was 
never my only bike so it had to share the miles I rode each season. 

I was lucky and last week bought Johnny’s 54CM Saluki which should arrive 
on Tuesday.  I will take the parts from the Bleriot which were originally 
on my 56cm Saluki and put the on the pewter 54cm Saluki which was 
originally owned by Ed Braley.  Needless to say the Bleriot frame, plus a 
headset and BB that did not come with the frame will be available.  I will 
also have Tektro side pull brakes since the incoming uses cantis.  A low 
mileage frame for sure.  I will post when it is ready to ship, take 
pictures, etc.  I would say the condition is excellent for a 14 year old 
bike with a few scratches.  More to follow.

Thanks to Jonathan for his patience while I got the money to him.  

JS

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[RBW] WTB - 700c SS Wheelset for Quickbeam

[Sean Steinle]

Starting the search for a nice wheelset for my quickbeam. 700c, 120mm rear 
spacing. This is my only bike so I'd like to do it up right, maybe some 
Phil hubs. I'm a lightweight rider, only 130 lbs, so don't want anything 
too overkill on spoke count, probably 32h.

Thanks!
Sean

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[RBW] WTB nitto 27.2; Paul motolites

[Igor]

Thanks

Igor
Ann Arbor MI

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[RBW] Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

Hello all! Long time Riv admirer. But, I always hesitate long enough to 
miss out on buying one. 

I ride a Chumba Ursa mountain bike. It tows my daughter, grocery runs, any 
trail ever. I ride the bike mellow in my opinion, but I’ve been told maybe 
I’m more aggressive than I feel. Jumps are common when a water bar is good, 
even fully loaded. But they are always a smooth landing. I ride a 29x2.6 
and find it great for most terrain. Snow is rare but not something I don’t 
ride in. I had an LWB Jones complete and very much enjoyed the bike. But, 
37lbs without saddle or pedals was my first time feeling like a bike is too 
heavy to be fun. And it was the shortest lived bike I’ve ever had. I’ve 
never felt that disc brakes were an upgrade really. For reference, I am 
6’1” 170lbs. 90 PBH puts me between sizes on the upper end so that is 
always nice to hear what others prefer!

Anyhow, am I a Riv candidate? With the Gus And Susie pre sale starting soon 
I wanted to ask the group opinion. I will call them and I’m sure they can 
sell me that I am. But that’s their job. 

Thanks to anyone who has some insight, I appreciate it in advance!

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