Re: [RBW] Mb-1 closest modern riv relative

[Eric Daume]

A lightweight, low stack mountain bike? Nothing at Riv is like this anymore.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 1:18 AM Sam Perez  wrote:

> Hi all,
> What is the closest modern riv relative to the bridgestone MB-1?  And is
> anyone still riding them? Feel free to share pics!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Garth]

   Jim, the bike may seem "too big" , but is it really or are you simply 
comparing it to your other bikes and equating that with "too big", "a 
lumbering hulk" ? Your Clem is what it is, so rather than comparing it and 
thus diminishing it, play around with it. I've seen many a tales here how 
someone said they didn't like their bike, but after a change/adjustment of 
some part of the bike that you contact(bars/stem/saddle/pedals, etc.), or 
even tires, their story changed completely. Many mtb's have considerably 
steeper seat tube angles too, which places your center of balance further 
forward that on the Clem. I could see how that would contribute to a 
perception of "less sprightly" or "laid back" or even "sluggish".  The 
chainstays and wheelbase are also much longer, so of course it will feel 
different, so* try riding it different*. Every bike has it's own 
"personality", if you will. Let it shine rather than try making it 
something it's not, any another bike. 

If you still find it's not for you, so what ? Let it go and find something 
else, there's always a bike to ride. 
On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:15:00 AM UTC-5 mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jim,  several years ago I had a double TT 64cm Atlantis that I took on a 
> tour up around the Olympic peninsula. It also was a touch too large for me. 
>   In touring mode I had it loaded up with a Pass and Stow front rack with a 
> basket on top and two medium sized low rider front panniers. On the rear I 
> had a medium saddle sack that sat on a Nitto r-14 rack.It was probably 
>  75/25 ; front/ rear weight distribution.   That bike rode awesome( to me) 
> in that configuration.Leaving an empty-ish camp one morning on a quiet 
> stretch of road,  I rode no handed for ~7miles on a gently curvy road. It 
> felt smooth and in control.  (. There were mile markers and when solo on 
> the road sometimes you make games for yourself).   I’ll never forget that. 
>  Just anecdotally reiterating your experience that sometimes a bike can 
> feel better with some weight.-Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:01 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> Anything bike related that I don't want goes to my local bicycle co-op.  
> They depend on donations to keep bikes owned by low income people running.  
> What feels like a crappy, sluggish tire to me could be wonderful to someone 
> who just needs new rubber to get back'n'forth to work on.  Never toss out a 
> "tried & disliked" item.  Donate.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the ideas and observations, everyone.  I will try lowering the 
>> tire pressure tomorrow.  New tires soon, too.
>>
>> Jason and Mark, I think you are right that the Clem *ought* to fit me.  
>> By the numbers it does.  My favorite bike to ride around town is an old 
>> mountain bike with a 53cm seat tube that ought to be too small for me, but 
>> it's sprightly and a lot of fun to ride.
>>
>> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
>> pipe.  
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Mark Roland  wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps 
>>> contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't 
>>> seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is 
>>> under six foot. 
>>>
>>> I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they 
>>> were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I 
>>> went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never 
>>> describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.  
>>> Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires 
>>> and see what happens.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>>
 I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
 PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
 lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
 piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
 because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on 
 the 
 bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
 didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  
 The 
 simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
 adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
 possible I was not confused?

 I will try to insert a picture.  

 Jim in Rochester

 [image: IMG_1544.jpg]


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[RBW] Re: FS 170mm SiLVER Crankset 38/24 $195 shipped

[Igor]

Still got them! Thanks

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 8:33:49 AM UTC-5 Igor wrote:

> Photos here
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHtyOeFzSD/
>
> 50miles or so. Nice condition!
>
> Will ship UPS because USPS is just not reliable right now.
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[RBW] Re: Any Simworks Fun 3 Bar users out there?

[Bones]

Thanks Collin

Bones

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 1:12:17 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> I liked them more than the Get-rounds, mostly because the grips position 
> was further back (thanks long top-tube rivs) and the 30-ish deg backsweep 
> agreed with my setup. Also works great for bag strapping.
>
> Highly recommended, and I even have a set of the crmo sitting sadly in my 
> parts box...
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 8:52:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> I'm curious about these and how they compare to the Getaround bars. A 
>> little more sweep and rise, good forward position. They look kinda sweet. 
>> Are they?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
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[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[jamison brosseau]

I run a box components 9 speed wide range cassette 1x and have experienced 
no issues  or any desire to run a larger cassette.  I have used microshift 
, dura ace and sunrace shifters.  I have recently switched to indexed 
shifting and am not sure I will be going back to friction any time soon.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:24:37 AM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really 
> curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on 
> friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the 
> shifting more fussy ?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Philip Williamson]

Friction shifting 11 speeds is easier than friction on 9. Shifting isn’t 
fussy at all.
I have a silver downtube shifter. The throw of the shifter is maxed out - 
it’s parallel to the down tube at each end of the throw, but that’s fine.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 10:24:37 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:

> Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really 
> curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on 
> friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the 
> shifting more fussy ?
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: [RBW] Mb-1 closest modern riv relative

[luckyturnip]

I’m still riding mine! 

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 05:58, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Until 2 weeks ago I was still riding mine. Finally let it go via ebay.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 5:17:14 AM UTC-6 Eric Daume wrote:
>> A lightweight, low stack mountain bike? Nothing at Riv is like this anymore.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 1:18 AM Sam Perez  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> What is the closest modern riv relative to the bridgestone MB-1?  And is 
>>> anyone still riding them? Feel free to share pics! 
>> 
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[RBW] Larger alternate to rat trap pass tires

[True Golden]

Perhaps not quite as fat as you are looking for but this guy discusses a few 
26x2.3 folding tires.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tQBYjMwE7Mg


I used an earlier version of that Michelin Pilot over a few years and over 2500 
miles or so and was pleased with how  they rode and and held up.
They're not too heavy at around 650g I think he said.


Also he mentions a Maxxis DTH folding tire in a 26x2.3.


I've ridden that DTH tire in a 26x2.15 and have also like it quite a bit.

The ones I tried were not quite a Rat Trap Pass but not all that far behind in 
my view and for my purposes proving to be more flat resistant for my urban 
riding.

Good riding

Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Mb-1 closest modern riv relative

[Mark Roland]

Hard to find the MB-1with dual suspension, but there you go.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 10:42:30 AM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> I’m still riding mine! 
>
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 05:58, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> Until 2 weeks ago I was still riding mine. Finally let it go via ebay.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 5:17:14 AM UTC-6 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> A lightweight, low stack mountain bike? Nothing at Riv is like this 
>> anymore.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 1:18 AM Sam Perez  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> What is the closest modern riv relative to the bridgestone MB-1?  And is 
>>> anyone still riding them? Feel free to share pics! 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Bicycle brake toe-in with James May from Top Gear

[André P]

There's something making my mind explode about a man standing in front a 
Ferrari working on a bike with 105. But maybe that's just to say 105 is 
really amazing and rim brakes are still king :)

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:54:29 AM UTC-8 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Perhaps there are some fans of Top Gear from BBC on this board. Here is a 
> great video with James May explaining toe-in on his road bike:
> https://youtu.be/sqf2rE9PYgM
>
> If you've got time in quarantine, you may also like his shows "The 
> Reassembler" in which he builds common items from parts in real time, and 
> his show "Oz and James's Big Wine Adventure", in which he talks about 
> grapes.
>
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Come ride a Riv in Charlotte, NC

[Leah Peterson]

Oh, I forgot this is a racing Platypus! You better bring your Lycra. Just 
kidding; I’m not that fast, but I will ditch you climbing the hills! 💃🏻


Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> A red raspberry Platy piloted by our Bicycle Belle Ding Ding?? If I ever end 
> up on a ride with her I already have a list of excuses I'm bringing with me: 
> I was ill recently, my bike needs a tune, I overtrained yesterday, I had a 
> flat, didn't eat enough and I forgot to fill my water bottle! 😬😂
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:38:49 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:
>> Red raspberry being the fastest color in the known universe, doubly so when 
>> applied to a Platypus, the answer is, of course.
>> 
>>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 8:41:37 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> I would LOVE to go for a Pamela Murray ride. The question is: Could I keep 
>>> up with her?!?
>>> 
 On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
 My sister and family lived in Highland Creek for 10ish years and it was 
 lovely!  My nephew now lives in Monroe and I'm hoping one day to visit and 
 see his babies.  Perhaps you and I can get together and go for a ride!
 Roberta
 
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:54:37 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
> Thanks to John De Lisle Crofts for letting me know my postcard is in 
> Grant's lastest blog post.  If anyone wants to ride a Betty or Cheviot, 
> please come to Charlotte, NC.  I have a 47 and 50 Betty and a 55 and 60 
> Cheviot.  All set up a little different.  Come try out some bags, pedals, 
> bars, etc.  or just come ride.  I also teach Cycling Savvy monthly.  You 
> can take the course while you're here.  Or come borrow a bike and do a 
> S24O.  You can borrow everything to see how you like it.  Our nearest 
> local campground is 26 miles out.  I usually have a Warm Showers room but 
> due to COVID don't like anyone in the house but you can camp in the 
> backyard or screened in back porch.  Here's a better picture.  I was 
> rushed getting my cards out so I didn't choose the best picture.   
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Jim M.]

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
> pipe.  
>
I have a pipe like that (slightly shorter) to use as a cheater bar. 

I have the same pbh and bought a 52 Clem H that was on sale. It was too 
small though I fit the theoretical range. I should have gotten the 59. I 
support the suggestions of better tires/lower pressure. I think you'll feel 
a big difference. I really liked the Clem other than the sizing.

jim m
walnut creek

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[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Michael Morrissey]

Yes, of course it will work. I have a friction 9 speed set up on my 
Rivendell and, yes, it is a little fussy, but it works incredibly smoothly 
and I have a clutch derailleur. I use the Silver1 shifter because it's 
longer and therefore slightly more precise IMHO. 

On my other bike, I have a Suntour Power Ratchet thumbshifter with a Deore 
7 speed setup on the back. It is truly bulletproof. I have ridden it for 
years with ZERO adjustment.

Post up a list of the parts you have and I'm sure we can figure out if it 
will work or not.

m


On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 10:20:21 AM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> Friction shifting 11 speeds is easier than friction on 9. Shifting isn’t 
> fussy at all.
> I have a silver downtube shifter. The throw of the shifter is maxed out - 
> it’s parallel to the down tube at each end of the throw, but that’s fine.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 10:24:37 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really 
>> curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on 
>> friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the 
>> shifting more fussy ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Jim Whorton]

Jim M, thanks for sharing that about the 52 Clem.  I had wondered how a 52 
would feel.  I can't help thinking the 55 Atlantis would be perfect, though 
I'm hesitant to spend that money on a new bike for all the reasons people 
have said. 

Really appreciate all the comments and advice.  I've learned a ton from 
this forum over the last couple years.

DougP,  yes, I am with you on donating bikes and parts.  Rochester has a 
great non-profit called R Community Bikes that repairs old bikes and gives 
them away to people who need them.  I have given them a few.

Jim W

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5 Jim M. wrote:

> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
>> pipe.  
>>
> I have a pipe like that (slightly shorter) to use as a cheater bar. 
>
> I have the same pbh and bought a 52 Clem H that was on sale. It was too 
> small though I fit the theoretical range. I should have gotten the 59. I 
> support the suggestions of better tires/lower pressure. I think you'll feel 
> a big difference. I really liked the Clem other than the sizing.
>
> jim m
> walnut creek
>

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[RBW] Selling my Green Sam Hillborne

[Brendan Willard in SF]

This Sam has mixed it up in some terrain, but it’s good to go for many, 
many more miles. Don’t expect perfection, but everything works as it 
should. It’s a great bike, and it’s a little too small for me (5’11” & 86cm 
PBH). 

Pictures Here 


Riv calls it a 51cm frame. 55cm effective top tube. 
VO triple Cranks 170mm
Deore RD
Campy Mirage FD
New KMC chain
Rich Lesnik built LX to Velocity Synergy wheels
Tektro CR 720 Cantis
Dia Compe Tech 77 levers
Riv Silver Shifters
Unknown bars
NItto Technomic Stem
Tange Headset
Silver seatpost. 
Sim Works Homage 650b x 43mm tires
New shift cables and housing
New Brake pads
Sad Brooks included
Crapform pedals included

I have a stupid huge pile of parts if you want to go another direction with 
this bike, and we can add/subtract stuff as we haggle, but please know what 
you’re looking for so we can keep it Rico Suave. 

Preference to local sales. Mask up if you’re coming to test ride.

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[RBW] Re: Selling my Green Sam Hillborne

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I'm also up for trades!

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 2:25:55 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> This Sam has mixed it up in some terrain, but it’s good to go for many, 
> many more miles. Don’t expect perfection, but everything works as it 
> should. It’s a great bike, and it’s a little too small for me (5’11” & 86cm 
> PBH). 
>
> Pictures Here 
> 
>
> Riv calls it a 51cm frame. 55cm effective top tube. 
> VO triple Cranks 170mm
> Deore RD
> Campy Mirage FD
> New KMC chain
> Rich Lesnik built LX to Velocity Synergy wheels
> Tektro CR 720 Cantis
> Dia Compe Tech 77 levers
> Riv Silver Shifters
> Unknown bars
> NItto Technomic Stem
> Tange Headset
> Silver seatpost. 
> Sim Works Homage 650b x 43mm tires
> New shift cables and housing
> New Brake pads
> Sad Brooks included
> Crapform pedals included
>
> I have a stupid huge pile of parts if you want to go another direction 
> with this bike, and we can add/subtract stuff as we haggle, but please know 
> what you’re looking for so we can keep it Rico Suave. 
>
> Preference to local sales. Mask up if you’re coming to test ride.
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Re: [RBW] Selling my Green Sam Hillborne

[James Warren]

Man, what a great bike! (Not my size)

Hillbornes ride so well, pavement or dirt. And cool original color and great 
lugs!


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  wrote:
> 
> This Sam has mixed it up in some terrain, but it’s good to go for many, many 
> more miles. Don’t expect perfection, but everything works as it should. It’s 
> a great bike, and it’s a little too small for me (5’11” & 86cm PBH). 
> 
> Pictures Here 
> 
> 
> Riv calls it a 51cm frame. 55cm effective top tube. 
> VO triple Cranks 170mm
> Deore RD
> Campy Mirage FD
> New KMC chain
> Rich Lesnik built LX to Velocity Synergy wheels
> Tektro CR 720 Cantis
> Dia Compe Tech 77 levers
> Riv Silver Shifters
> Unknown bars
> NItto Technomic Stem
> Tange Headset
> Silver seatpost. 
> Sim Works Homage 650b x 43mm tires
> New shift cables and housing
> New Brake pads
> Sad Brooks included
> Crapform pedals included
> 
> I have a stupid huge pile of parts if you want to go another direction with 
> this bike, and we can add/subtract stuff as we haggle, but please know what 
> you’re looking for so we can keep it Rico Suave. 
> 
> Preference to local sales. Mask up if you’re coming to test ride.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul touring cantis

[Eric Marth]

Thanks all, purchase pending! 

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 1:48:07 PM UTC-5 saintruggler wrote:

> PM sent.
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If anyone has a set of Paul touring cantis for two wheels that they'd be 
>> willing to part with please hit me up! 
>
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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack stays

[Eric Marth]

For some reason this stuck in my head as "fender stays," which I cut with a 
pair of Knipex diagonal cutters and finish with a file. 

For the much more robusto rack stays: +1 on the bandsaw and belt sander if 
you have access! 

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:22:50 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Whelp, I have this shiny new RBW51 rack with way-long stays and I can't 
> get the search feature here to work so how do I cut these suckers? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
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[RBW] Re: Found Wheel in Seattle

[Eric Marth]

Pretty wild not only for this wheel to end up on the sidewalk but for 
someone to know what it was to call Rich! Hopeful for the wheel's reunion 
with its bike. 

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-5 Rich Lesnik wrote:

>
> I just got a call from a fellow who found a Deore XT/Dyad 700/36 wheel 
> with the Hands on Wheels sticker. Just lying on the sidewalk. If anyone in 
> the Seattle Area (found in the Magnolia neighborhood) lost a bike or wheel 
> like that, let me know and I'll give you his number. Nice guy, used to work 
> at Ocean Cyclery in SF.
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[RBW] Re: Found Wheel in Seattle

[Eric Marth]

Pretty wild not only for this wheel to end up on the sidewalk but for 
someone who know what it was to call Rich! Hopeful for the wheel's reunion 
with its bike. 

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-5 Rich Lesnik wrote:

>
> I just got a call from a fellow who found a Deore XT/Dyad 700/36 wheel 
> with the Hands on Wheels sticker. Just lying on the sidewalk. If anyone in 
> the Seattle Area (found in the Magnolia neighborhood) lost a bike or wheel 
> like that, let me know and I'll give you his number. Nice guy, used to work 
> at Ocean Cyclery in SF.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Patrick Moore]

Adding my tiny clamor to the general hubub (not Hubbuhubbuh): I've done
this for years with 7, 8, 9, and 10 speed cassettes. Currently
I shift a 1X10 (with granny bailout) using Suntour bar cons and a 7 or 8
speed rd (Dura Ace 7401), and it works surprisingly well despite the
shifter and derailleur not being "optimized" for the job. After I swapped
out the mix 'n' match cogs (7, 8, and 9 speed used with 10 sp spacers) for
actual 10 speed Miche cogs used with *eleven speed spacers,** "excellent"
got taken to "wholly superlative."

The 1X10 as above shifts better than any 1X5 or 1X6 freewheel drivetrain
I've used, and I don't complain about shifting 5 or 6 speed freewheels.

A trick I learned from Bike Radar, to wit, use a chain 1 generation later
than your cassette to make good shifting even better; thus 11 with 10, 10
with 9, etc. I use modestly priced SRAM chains, in case that makes a
difference.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:19 AM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, of course it will work. I have a friction 9 speed set up on my
> Rivendell and, yes, it is a little fussy, but it works incredibly smoothly
> and I have a clutch derailleur. I use the Silver1 shifter because it's
> longer and therefore slightly more precise IMHO.
>
> On my other bike, I have a Suntour Power Ratchet thumbshifter with a Deore
> 7 speed setup on the back. It is truly bulletproof. I have ridden it for
> years with ZERO adjustment.
>
> Post up a list of the parts you have and I'm sure we can figure out if it
> will work or not.
>
> m
>
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 10:20:21 AM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> Friction shifting 11 speeds is easier than friction on 9. Shifting isn’t
>> fussy at all.
>> I have a silver downtube shifter. The throw of the shifter is maxed out -
>> it’s parallel to the down tube at each end of the throw, but that’s fine.
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 10:24:37 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really
>>> curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on
>>> friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the
>>> shifting more fussy ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Selling my Green Sam Hillborne

[Brendan Willard in SF]

BTW, a one have an idea why my Craigslist posting keeps getting flagged?  Text 
is exactly the same as here.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle brake toe-in with James May from Top Gear

[Patrick Moore]

May does a good job explaining things, even to pillocks. In my work I often
have to "translate" reams of technical gobbledygook not only into ordinary
language, but into 2-line sentences, and I do appreciate the language -- or
better, conceptual -- skill of explaining complexities clearly and
concisely. It's not a common skill!

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:54:29 AM UTC-8 Michael Morrissey wrote:
> Perhaps there are some fans of Top Gear from BBC on this board. Here is a
great video with James May explaining toe-in on his road bike:
> https://youtu.be/sqf2rE9PYgM
>
> If you've got time in quarantine, you may also like his shows "The
Reassembler" in which he builds common items from parts in real time, and
his show "Oz and James's Big Wine Adventure", in which he talks about
grapes.
>
> Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Mark Schneider]

I think I have an idea. The stiff tubing on your Clem wasn't flexing 
without a load. Bikes work best when they flex a little, your other bikes 
weren't as stiff, the extra weight allows the Clem to "plane". I've heard 
Jan Heine talk about stiffer bikes needing more weight to ride better.

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Jim M, thanks for sharing that about the 52 Clem.  I had wondered how a 52 
> would feel.  I can't help thinking the 55 Atlantis would be perfect, though 
> I'm hesitant to spend that money on a new bike for all the reasons people 
> have said. 
>
> Really appreciate all the comments and advice.  I've learned a ton from 
> this forum over the last couple years.
>
> DougP,  yes, I am with you on donating bikes and parts.  Rochester has a 
> great non-profit called R Community Bikes that repairs old bikes and gives 
> them away to people who need them.  I have given them a few.
>
> Jim W
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
>>> pipe.  
>>>
>> I have a pipe like that (slightly shorter) to use as a cheater bar. 
>>
>> I have the same pbh and bought a 52 Clem H that was on sale. It was too 
>> small though I fit the theoretical range. I should have gotten the 59. I 
>> support the suggestions of better tires/lower pressure. I think you'll feel 
>> a big difference. I really liked the Clem other than the sizing.
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Jeffrey Arita]

Jim,

You are not imagining things.  I have a Surly Cross-Check that has been 
used as a commuter, grocery-getter, randonneur, single-speed and as a 
cyclo-tourer.  When I had it configured as a tourer I had it fairly heavily 
laden in front (2 large Ortlieb backroller panniers + Tubus Tara) with an 
Ortlieb rack pack on back + Tubus Cosmo.  I still cannot believe how 
comfortable that particular rig rode.  As Mark Schneider points out, bikes 
do seem to work better when they flex a bit, and with the Surly's decently 
burly tubes, it sure proved that theory!

Good luck!

Jeff

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 5:01:26 PM UTC-8 Mark Schneider wrote:

> I think I have an idea. The stiff tubing on your Clem wasn't flexing 
> without a load. Bikes work best when they flex a little, your other bikes 
> weren't as stiff, the extra weight allows the Clem to "plane". I've heard 
> Jan Heine talk about stiffer bikes needing more weight to ride better.
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> Jim M, thanks for sharing that about the 52 Clem.  I had wondered how a 
>> 52 would feel.  I can't help thinking the 55 Atlantis would be perfect, 
>> though I'm hesitant to spend that money on a new bike for all the reasons 
>> people have said. 
>>
>> Really appreciate all the comments and advice.  I've learned a ton from 
>> this forum over the last couple years.
>>
>> DougP,  yes, I am with you on donating bikes and parts.  Rochester has a 
>> great non-profit called R Community Bikes that repairs old bikes and gives 
>> them away to people who need them.  I have given them a few.
>>
>> Jim W
>>
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5 Jim M. wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>>
 I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
 pipe.  

>>> I have a pipe like that (slightly shorter) to use as a cheater bar. 
>>>
>>> I have the same pbh and bought a 52 Clem H that was on sale. It was too 
>>> small though I fit the theoretical range. I should have gotten the 59. I 
>>> support the suggestions of better tires/lower pressure. I think you'll feel 
>>> a big difference. I really liked the Clem other than the sizing.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> walnut creek
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: 58cm - 60cm Frameset

[Michael J.]

Hey all!

I am on the hunt for a 58cm to 60cm or so Rivendell *something*! My only 
requirements are as follows:

1) Double Top-Tube
2) Canti / Linear Pull Brakes
3) Minimum Tire Clearance of 40mm 

I am literally up for whatever. I used to have a black/cream Sam Hillborne 
that I (regrettably) sold—I need something back!

If you have anything you’re aware of, or if anyone has something they are 
looking to move on, please reach out and let me know! My PBH is right 
around 90-91 cm. I am not interested in buying a complete bike—just F/F/HS. 

Thanks!

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[brendonoid]

This thread is so good I just needed to let everyone know how much I 
enjoyed reading it. My immediate thought was as others then said, to lower 
the tyre pressure and then get rid of those tyres ASAP. 

Loaded bikes vs. unloaded bikes is a very real and noticable thing also. My 
postie bike goes from almost a noodle frame on rails to a twitchy overly 
stiff pig as I slowly unload 50kgs of mail through the day.

OPINIONS: 
Another thought is that the Bosco bars they are great, but certainly have 
never made a bike feel spritely. At least, not to me. So before sizing down 
and after changing the tyres, maybe try a different bar? I have a lot of 
different bike setups and everyone of them is the best for a given 
situation or particular ride. Bicycles are fun like that.
I do not think the frame is too big for you.

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