Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Frame - Susie W. Longbolts / Wolbis Slugstone 53cm!

[Paul Budnitz]

Thanks Mark.

It’s a super-cool bike. If nobody buys it soon I’m tempting myself to keep it 
and use it as a second gravel bike. :)

I’d probably have to throw out our lawnmower to fit another bike in our shed, 
however!

☆ Paul
On Oct 9, 2020, 9:05 PM -0400, Mark Roland , wrote:
> That's a really nice deal on a new bike that is out of stock. Plus bonus 
> parts. Plus, lest we forget, it's also a Wolbis Slugstone (see ye olde head 
> badge)!
>
> I got my 56 Susie last week and just took it out of the box yesterday.  What 
> a sweet frame, beautiful fillet brazing and lots of fun details. I am 
> determined to build the wheels this weekend after overhauling and adjusting 
> the hubs.
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 11:47:58 AM UTC-4, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
> > Hello Everyone!
> >
> > I have a beautiful BLUE Susie W. Longbolts frame for sale in the (now sold 
> > out) 53cm size.
> >
> > Comes with a 73cm square taper Shimano 113 BB installed, which will pair 
> > perfectly with most Sugino or Rivendell cranks. If you need a seatpost I am 
> > happy to throw in a new 26.8 Rivendell Seatpost as well, as I have an extra 
> > here.
> >
> > (Susies don't come with seatpost of bottom bracket like other Riv frames, 
> > Will told me it's because they figure some people might want to use modern 
> > cranks).
> >
> > You can see images here.
> >
> > Price is $1500 and I'll ship it anywhere in the continental US for free. 
> > Trying to keep the price fair as this board has been such a useful source 
> > of advice for me!
> >
> > Nothing bad to say about the Susie! Received the frame new a few weeks ago 
> > from Rivendell, figured as a replacement for the Atlantis that I use as a 
> > gravel/dirt road bike. After building it up and riding the Susie a dozen 
> > miles (on Asphalt) I realized I just prefer the Atlantis — I'm probably 
> > just used to my old bike. We live in town now, and I have limited storage 
> > so can't keep it for fun as I'd wish.
> >
> > The frame is in perfect condition besides being built up once and ridden 
> > for a few hours. I'm a fairly experienced builder, and mainly tested the 
> > bike on the road. There are no scuffs or marks I can find. I don't think 
> > this Susie would come off as anything but brand new once it is built it up 
> > by you!
> >
> > Images attached, LMK if you've questions. :)
> >
> > Much love,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[RBW] Re: FS: Frame - Susie W. Longbolts / Wolbis Slugstone 53cm!

[Ash]

This's a very good deal!  The next batch is probably 18 month out or longer.

Of the two Rivs and two other bikes I have Susie is the one that gets 
ridden the most these days.  Gravel rides with kid's trailer attached, 
grocery runs, bring take out food from next town, a 8-mile quick fitness 
ride during lunch breaks.. this bike can be used so many ways.  I even did 
a 100k a month ago.  Now I'm planning a loaded multi-day tour on Susie 
sometime this year.   Best of luck Paul.
On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 08:47:58 UTC-7 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:

> Hello Everyone!
>
> I have a beautiful BLUE Susie W. Longbolts frame for sale in the (now sold 
> out) 53cm size. 
>
> Comes with a 73cm square taper Shimano 113 BB installed, which will pair 
> perfectly with most Sugino or Rivendell cranks. If you need a seatpost I am 
> happy to throw in a new 26.8 Rivendell Seatpost as well, as I have an extra 
> here.
>
> (Susies don't come with seatpost of bottom bracket like other Riv frames, 
> Will told me it's because they figure some people might want to use modern 
> cranks).
>
> You can see images here 
> 
> .
>
> Price is $1500 and I'll ship it anywhere in the continental US for free. 
> Trying to keep the price fair as this board has been such a useful source 
> of advice for me!
>
> Nothing bad to say about the Susie! Received the frame new a few weeks ago 
> from Rivendell, figured as a replacement for the Atlantis that I use as a 
> gravel/dirt road bike. After building it up and riding the Susie a dozen 
> miles (on Asphalt) I realized I just prefer the Atlantis — I'm probably 
> just used to my old bike. We live in town now, and I have limited storage 
> so can't keep it for fun as I'd wish.
>
> The frame is in perfect condition besides being built up once and ridden 
> for a few hours. I'm a fairly experienced builder, and mainly tested the 
> bike on the road. There are no scuffs or marks I can find. I don't think 
> this Susie would come off as anything but brand new once it is built it up 
> by you!
>
> Images attached, LMK if you've questions. :)
>
> Much love,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Thanks everybody :^)

So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of
course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the
frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?
I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do
they fit?

Doug

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frame - Susie W. Longbolts / Wolbis Slugstone 53cm!

[Jim Plaugher]

Hi Paul,
Sent PM
Jim in Lansing Iowa

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:38:01 AM UTC-5 Ash wrote:

> This's a very good deal!  The next batch is probably 18 month out or 
> longer.
>
> Of the two Rivs and two other bikes I have Susie is the one that gets 
> ridden the most these days.  Gravel rides with kid's trailer attached, 
> grocery runs, bring take out food from next town, a 8-mile quick fitness 
> ride during lunch breaks.. this bike can be used so many ways.  I even did 
> a 100k a month ago.  Now I'm planning a loaded multi-day tour on Susie 
> sometime this year.   Best of luck Paul.
> On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 08:47:58 UTC-7 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone!
>>
>> I have a beautiful BLUE Susie W. Longbolts frame for sale in the (now 
>> sold out) 53cm size. 
>>
>> Comes with a 73cm square taper Shimano 113 BB installed, which will pair 
>> perfectly with most Sugino or Rivendell cranks. If you need a seatpost I am 
>> happy to throw in a new 26.8 Rivendell Seatpost as well, as I have an extra 
>> here.
>>
>> (Susies don't come with seatpost of bottom bracket like other Riv frames, 
>> Will told me it's because they figure some people might want to use modern 
>> cranks).
>>
>> You can see images here 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> Price is $1500 and I'll ship it anywhere in the continental US for free. 
>> Trying to keep the price fair as this board has been such a useful source 
>> of advice for me!
>>
>> Nothing bad to say about the Susie! Received the frame new a few weeks 
>> ago from Rivendell, figured as a replacement for the Atlantis that I use as 
>> a gravel/dirt road bike. After building it up and riding the Susie a dozen 
>> miles (on Asphalt) I realized I just prefer the Atlantis — I'm probably 
>> just used to my old bike. We live in town now, and I have limited storage 
>> so can't keep it for fun as I'd wish.
>>
>> The frame is in perfect condition besides being built up once and ridden 
>> for a few hours. I'm a fairly experienced builder, and mainly tested the 
>> bike on the road. There are no scuffs or marks I can find. I don't think 
>> this Susie would come off as anything but brand new once it is built it up 
>> by you!
>>
>> Images attached, LMK if you've questions. :)
>>
>> Much love,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Justin]

I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange 
fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope 
to have a reason to try them out this winter 

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Thanks everybody :^)
>
> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of 
> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the 
> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?  
> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do 
> they fit?
>
> Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Frame - Susie W. Longbolts / Wolbis Slugstone 53cm!

[Mark Roland]

Looks great Paul. Makes sense to give it a try, such a unique bicycle. 
Since Susie's first cousin, El Clem, already has Boscos, I wanted something 
different. I've got a few options, including Choco-Moose, but I decided to 
try VO's Klunker bars. It goes well with my BMX homage build, even though I 
never road BMX. Got inspired by a Kooka crank (not really bmx either) and 
went from there.
I love the new Nitto faceplate stems, thinking of a 65 or 85 in case I get 
tired of the bmx setup. Should work with wavies or other flatish bars, or 
drops even. I tend to leave most bikes be once I finish a build, but I may 
mess around with the Wolbis over the winter. Now back to that wheel build...

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 6:02:54 PM UTC-4, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks for your kind words about the frame. 
>
> This is kind of embarrassing. 😌 I'm keeping the bike.
>
> After thinking about why the Susie wasn't working for me, and getting 
> inspired by Mark's post — and some friendly nudges from my wife who (she's 
> amazing) supports my endless obsession with bicycles!!! — I decided to give 
> the Susie another chance. 
>
> First I spent some time measuring the frame and comparing with my other 
> bikes. They key issue, for me at least, was that the frame is so long it 
> sort of begs you to to put Boscos on it to get the bars back. That's what I 
> did the first build, but I ended up with a super-upright ride with nearly 
> ya 90-degree back. I know that's what Grant and the Deacon and everyone 
> seems to love, and power to you! But I don't have enough power that way, I 
> really need a little more lean for power in the flats. 
>
> For the re-build I used much lower and slightly narrower bars (inverted 
> Chocos instead of Boscos), higher but shorter stem (Dirt drop 100 instead 
> of Technomic), and different saddle (Narrow Berthoud). And it all came 
> together! Just rode 10 miles over a mess of dirt racing a storm, and this 
> Susie may turn into one of my favorite bikes of all time. I need more time 
> on it to really be sure, but the long wheelbase is ridiculously great. 
>
> Image of semi-finished Susie attached. Think I'm going to order one of 
> Grant's new 110mm faceplate stems to get a tiny bit more reach, and add 
> some bar-extenders to give another 20mm back for more hand positions with 
> some even longer BMX grips. Maybe big ass fenders. Then it should be 
> perfect for back-country Vermont, at least until the snows hit soon enough.
>
> Jim, I'm so sorry I can't sell this frame to you, at least right now. I'll 
> let you know if I change my mind after a few more rides, but so far I'm 
> excited. 
>
> PS: It's likely a 2018 53 MIT Atlantis frame will be on the market soon 
> instead! It's still that or my lawnmower.
>
> Image attached with Chocos upside down.
>
> Much love to all.
>
> ⭐︎ Paul
>
> [image: IMG_1197.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 3:51:38 PM UTC-4 Jim Plaugher wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>> Sent PM
>> Jim in Lansing Iowa
>>
>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:38:01 AM UTC-5 Ash wrote:
>>
>>> This's a very good deal!  The next batch is probably 18 month out or 
>>> longer.
>>>
>>> Of the two Rivs and two other bikes I have Susie is the one that gets 
>>> ridden the most these days.  Gravel rides with kid's trailer attached, 
>>> grocery runs, bring take out food from next town, a 8-mile quick fitness 
>>> ride during lunch breaks.. this bike can be used so many ways.  I even did 
>>> a 100k a month ago.  Now I'm planning a loaded multi-day tour on Susie 
>>> sometime this year.   Best of luck Paul.
>>> On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 08:47:58 UTC-7 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone!

 I have a beautiful BLUE Susie W. Longbolts frame for sale in the (now 
 sold out) 53cm size. 

 Comes with a 73cm square taper Shimano 113 BB installed, which will 
 pair perfectly with most Sugino or Rivendell cranks. If you need a 
 seatpost 
 I am happy to throw in a new 26.8 Rivendell Seatpost as well, as I have an 
 extra here.

 (Susies don't come with seatpost of bottom bracket like other Riv 
 frames, Will told me it's because they figure some people might want to 
 use 
 modern cranks).

 You can see images here 
 
 .

 Price is $1500 and I'll ship it anywhere in the continental US for 
 free. Trying to keep the price fair as this board has been such a useful 
 source of advice for me!

 Nothing bad to say about the Susie! Received the frame new a few weeks 
 ago from Rivendell, figured as a replacement for the Atlantis that I use 
 as 
 a gravel/dirt road bike. After building it up and riding the Susie a dozen 
 miles (on Asphalt) I realized I just prefer the Atlantis — I'm probably 
 just used to my old bike. We live in town now, and I have limited

Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Patrick Moore]

If the VOs turn out to be to narrow, try Colin at Kelpie who makes custom
fat tire fenders in a thicker gauge of aluminum with 6.5 mm instead of 5 mm
stays; about $250 or so, IIRC. (He used to make them from titanium at $100
more but said they were so strong that, when he collected a stick under his
front, it bent the fork but not the fender; he started using aluminum after
that incident.)

The finish is not polished, but they're not bad looking, and they are
strong. My Matthews RBFD has 3" of toe overlap with fender, so I kick the
front from time to time; no damage yet. And not too heavy, either; the 80
mm wide ones (to fit tires almost 62 mm wide) with second (tho' short)
front stay weigh about 2 lb the pair, about the weight of a pair of SKS's
in the wider sizes.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 5:09 PM Justin  wrote:

> I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange
> fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope
> to have a reason to try them out this winter
>
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks everybody :^)
>>
>> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of
>> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the
>> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?
>> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do
>> they fit?
>>
>> Doug
>>
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[RBW] ISO/WTB 700C X 3" WTB Ranger tire in good condition for tubeless setup

[Patrick Moore]

The Monocog came with a Ranger in front but a narrower tire in back; I'd
like another Ranger for the rear.

Tire need not be new but should be no more than middle aged.

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[RBW] Silver shifters v1: Force required w. front derailleur

[Eric Marth]

Hi all – I just installed a set of Silver shifters, mounted to Shimano 
pods. The rear derailleur is working great, with a light touch. However the 
front derailleur requires some serious English in order to shift up (adding 
tension). The lever moves normally with the wingnut snugged up when the 
cable is detached from the derailleur. 

It shifts and holds position so far but the amount of force required seems 
excessive. Certainly requires a lot more than the Shimano levers I just 
removed. 

Is this typical of these levers? If not, does anyone have an idea of how I 
might correct? 

Cables and housing are brand new, housing ends are clean. No tight bends or 
kinks to the housing. Started with barrel adjuster backed out one and a 
half turns. 

Thanks for the help! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Todd G.]

I’ve been using Dumonde Tech for a number of years and like it. I use it 
year round, and it seems to do the job for me. It lasts somewhere around 
150 miles or so before I feel the need to wipe the chain down and re-apply 
the lube. 

Around a year ago, a friend gave me a bottle of Muc Off dry lube. I was a 
little skeptical at first because when I was a kid I used White Lightening 
dry lube, and it was a hot mess. So taking in to consideration I didn’t 
really know what the heck I was doing at that time, I used it. A sit turns 
out I really like the stuff, especially in dusty dry conditions. My entire 
drivetrain stays pretty clean, however I don’t feel like I get very much 
mileage out of a single application. 75 miles or so and I feel like I need 
to wipe down the chain and re-apply.
 
I have some Rock-n-Roll gold that I have had sitting in a cabinet for 
somewhere around 10 years or so. I need to finish the bottle off. I have no 
idea what it was that I heard, but I heard something about the owner of 
Rock-n-Roll that really rubbed me the wrong way. This was at least 10 years 
ago. So, now that I can’t recall what it was that I heard, maybe I’ll get a 
few rides in with it on a clean chain and report back. FOr whatver it’s 
worth, I feel like the Muc Off keeps the drivetrain the cleanest overall.

As far as cleaning, sometimes I use the Sonic Cleaner at work, sometimes I 
remove teh chain and put it into a screw top container filled with warm 
water and a gentle eco-friendly laundry detergent, and shake, shake, shake, 
air dry, or let it bake in the sun until it is completely dry. Those two 
are my best and most favorite methods. Between lubes I run the chain 
through a shop rag for a minute or so, changing to clean spots on the rag, 
then re-apply lube, run t through one more time to remove any excess, and 
I’m ready to ride. 

That’s my routine for the most part. I don’t really deviate from that, and 
I get good mileage out of my drivetrains, so I’m sticking to it!

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks; wasn't aware of the PTFE. And I see just now that ProLink Gold has 
> very good reviews; Ed Pavelka for one. And, it's a known -- to me -- 
> quantity.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 8:41 AM James / Analog Cycles  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Between Rock n Roll and Prolink, I'd recommend Prolink.  No PTFE.  Read 
>> up on it if you have never done so.  Rock N Roll Gold is just teflon solids 
>> suspended in solvent, more or less.
>>
>> I'd have to look at the sludge that falls off the chain.  The crud you 
>> are trying to get rid of isn't dirt per se, it's the metal filing the chain 
>> produces in the course of use.  Those, when trapped in the rollers, are a 
>> bigger source of chain wear than anything else I can think of.  If there is 
>> no metal in the sludge, it's just a superficial cleaning.  
>>
>
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[RBW] ISO: Sun Ringle "Equalizer" (EQ 21) 26" rims, 32 hole

[Patrick Moore]

Always looking for a few more of these rims.

32 hole. Black (with silver brake tracks) in pairs or as singles, or other
colors if in pairs. Very nice rims for 26" road wheels, a true 400 grams
each.

No longer sold new by any vendor I've found.

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