date:20200620

Leah, just out of curiosity, was your headlight contributing to the ticking?
If it was loose enough for parts to fall off, it may be adding to the vexing 
sound. 

Ray

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

I get a triangle with a slash through it when I try to watch the videos. 

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

2020-06-20 Thread Leah Peterson

When you open them it should offer you “view” or “download”. Click download. 
Should work! 😄

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

Either way, I get the same results. 
And sometimes I click download and it just reopens the thread.  

Thank you 

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Re: [RBW] Re: A rider for the RBW-list women

2020-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore

Now that is very encouraging to those of us who just joined Medicare.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:52 AM jack loudon  wrote:

> ...  He said he was 87 years old, born in 1933, and added that his wife
> was also 87 and still beautiful.
>
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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

Ray, I saw a video where she loosened the clamp a bit and moved the bars up and 
down..the noise was rather astonishing. I don't know what's causing that 
particular sleeve to make such a racket with that particular stem, but the 
dollop of Boeshield she added seems to have solved it. 

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[RBW] Re: Valuating modified 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel custom frame FS

2020-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore

I should add in response to some of the questions and comments that this is
a* road *frame, though one whose distant parent was my 1992 XO-1. It can
easily take 32 mm tire with fenders, and I daresay 38s, only the calipers,
even if you choose widely-arched ones like the old Dura Aces I have on it
now, will be the limiting factor, not fork or stays.

It's a lot stiffer than the XO-1, and I daresay (love that word) that the
tubing is stouter; f + f + hs was 7 lb for a 58 cm frame. But -- this is
the important thing -- it handles immeasurably better on pavement, and it
also works a lot better (IMO) on dirt, especially sandy surfaces; the XO
was scary in sand, since it would immediately plough; the 2003 is no sand
bike, but the front end is far more stable in sand; this while handling
both quicker and more stable-ly on pavement -- signature Grant handling,
tho' quicker than, say, a Ram, at least my Ram.

Carries 40 lb loads on the rear rack with, if not aplomb, at least dignity,
tho 30 lb is the limit if you don't want to affect the handling. 20 lb on
the front lowriders.

I think I've come up with a price, but I want to get the frame back and
examine it closely and photo it in detail before I decide finally. I won't
aim to screw the greatest amount out of the buyer. (And someone is at that
head of the queue, since he made me a cash offer; I feel obliged to give
him right of refusal if he accepts my ultimate price demand.)

One more thought. I was so delighted by Joe Starck's 1999 fixed gear 26"
wheel gofast Road custom that I had Grant design and Curt build this one as
a derailleur analogue ("analogy"). It has been delightful, but over the 17
years of riding there has always been a wee, little nagging doubt that it
didn't feel quite as spritely as the 1999, and I don't think this has been
merely because of the weight and air drag of fenders, lights, bags, etc. I
think I am in great old age finally experiencing "planing", or rather,
realizing that I have been experiencing the absence of it. Still, it feels
("feels") no slower than the XO-1 did, and it certainly handles better. The
Chauncey clone has been built of normal gauge, .8 .5 .8 (I told him, *not* .7
.4 .7) 531, so I hope to get a "feel" more like that of the 1999.

(Regarding "planing." I'd not hesitate to attribute the *lack* of
sprightliness to the 2003's excessively stout tubing --- except that one of
the bikes that felt "planey" to me and in spades was that 1958 Herse that
others had sold on because it was too stoutly built for them. It *was* a
tank, but it consistently made me choose a cog 1 tooth smaller than
"usual." Likewise the Matthews "road bike for dirt:" tho' made from
thinwall heat treated tubing, it is a tank; but it feels *fast!* So I don't
know where tubing comes into the "faster" equation.)

Over and out.

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> It has long horizontals and no derailleur hangar, tho' I can supply a
> claw. It doesn't have shifter bosses or housing stops, but it does have
> rear brake stops. It does have the original under-bb "grooves" for f and
> rear derailleur cables.
>
> The under-seatstay bridge and under-fork-crown threaded fender bosses are
> rounded out (rear) and broken (front threaded plate) but the VO hammered
> fenders are well mounted with sheet metal clamp for brake bolt (rear) and
> daruma (front).
>
> Custom f and rear racks, front with "arch" that supports front of rear
> fender. Internal wiring, tho' simply holes in "arch" and in rear rack
> members; wire guides along tt and right seat stay. Rear rack holds 40 lb
> without shimmy.
>
> More-or-less sage green powdercoat is in good condition; a few scuffs but
> not bad. Dropout ends were modifed after powdercoating and have gray primer
> on them.
>
> If this had shifter bits, I think it would be in effect a very much
> upgraded XO-1 (handles a lot better on pavement and in dirt, especially
> loose dirt, than my 1992 XO-1 did.
>
> What do you think is a fair value for this, if I want to split the
> difference between screwing as much as I can out of the buyer and a quick
> sale?
>
> Chauncey is building up the new bike as we speak, and is finding some --
> er, um, "issues" in swapping over the parts to the new frame, so I shall
> probably have to buy a new high end crankset -- Pro 5 Vis with 113 mm Phil
> gives good chainline but apparently arm won't quite clear the stay.  But I
> will have photos of the 2003 Curt, Dave and Chauncey modified frame, seul,
> in a little while. Meanwhile, feast on the bike.
>
> What $$ do y'all think, ballpark?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

2020-06-20 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 11:09:18 AM UTC-7, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> Either way, I get the same results. 
> And sometimes I click download and it just reopens the thread.  
>
>
Ray, Leah's videos didn't play on my iPhone nor iPad, but was fine when 
downloaded and played on the computer. I have no idea what's the issue is, 
but this is a solution that worked for me.

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[RBW] Long enough frame pump for Appaloosa

2020-06-20 Thread Bill F

The size 4 Zefal HPX was a little too short for my 60 cm Appaloosa so I use the 
Zefal Doodad Plus velcro straps to hold it in place.

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[RBW] Can I fit J. App. or AHH in back of Civic or Impreza with back seat down?

2020-06-20 Thread RichS

Roberta,

My fendered 51cm MIT Hilsen fits fine (with front wheel)
inside our Honda Fit.

Best,
Rich in ATL

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[RBW] Fatty Rumpkin tire opinions, experiences.

2020-06-20 Thread Ryan M.

I have some Schwalbe G one Allround tires on my Appaloosa but they are the
57mm wide variety. Now, these do fit, but the rear is a bit close to the
chainstays...basically a couple of mm's on each side is the clearance. They
work, are nice tires and are comfy but I'm beginning to wear them out and
have always been a little concerned with the clearance when out in stickier
muddy stuff.. I'm thinking about my next tire set and have been eyeballing
the Fatty Rumpkins, lighter variety as a replacement. I like the tan
sidewall and they look like they can handle some stuff. I think I rode
these back in the day on a Sam Hillborne I had, but just cannot remember
how they felt or if I was impressed or not with them. So, I ask you...

What are your experiences with Fatty Rumpkins? Would you recommend them as
an allroad tire? I basically have been riding the Appaloosa on pavement and
gravel roads, so the tire needs to be cool with that kind of surfaces. I
could always go with a Rene Herse tire too, but thought since I'm making an
order through Riv I would check out what they got in stock. What do you
think?

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

Thanks Joe and Benz. 

Leah sent the videos. 
She said she could find any sharp edges or burrs that would have made the 
gouge. 
It’s possible there was a chip or bit of shavings that made the gouge and 
possibly contributed to the noise. 

Ray

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

I think that's possible, Ray. I also have a theory that the stem ovalized a bit 
when clamping on the new ever-so-slightly-smaller bar, but I saw a burr inside 
that stem that the bar may have been dragging and creaking on.

Which reminds me, we need a nice tall quill stem with an open face clamp!  

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

2020-06-20 Thread Jeremy Till

I can't say that I've read every post in the thread but just to echo something 
Benz said: in my experience creaking is endemic with all of the various sleeved 
Nitto bars, so if the bar in question is of the sleeved variety that's probably 
the culprit in my mind. If I remember correctly the sleeved aluminum Boscos 
that I rode from 2014-2016 creaked, and those were clamped in a 4 bolt 
removable faceplate threadless stem of the appropriate size, so one of the most 
solid bar/stem connections out there. The M151 drop bars i currently have on my 
Rambouillet with a Technomic Deluxe creak when I pedal out of the saddle. I've 
always just lived with it because it didn't really bother me and didn't seem to 
get worse or otherwise make me feel like something was about to fail. YMMV, of 
course, but if avoiding the creak was a priority and the other solutions 
suggested didn't work, I'd consider going back to the steel Boscos (which I 
assume weren't sleeved) or other non sleeved bars.

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

For decades I have used beeswax on wooden  tool handles and on wooden knife 
handles. 
Having spent decades butchering meat, poultry and seafood, I found it to be the 
best treatment. 
I gently warm the handle, rub with beeswax, gently warm again. 
It’s ever so slightly tacky at first but burnishes nicely with the first use. 

It’s really critical not to get wooden handles too wet lest they dry out and 
crack and split. 

I used brylcream and Vo-5 under protest as a little kid. 
My father used it on his hair. 
Butch wax and the Glasspacks was a local band. 


Ray

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[RBW] Organized Rides 2020

2020-06-20 Thread Brady Smith

I’ve heard rumors from the local randonneuring club (New Jersey) that there may 
be a populaire or two this summer, but everything else in my area is canceled. 

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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

2020-06-20 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch

I bought one of those lumps too. (Don't think the cup survived.) I keep 
some in the basement shop and some in the garage shop. 
If I'm building a wheel, I'll first drag the threaded ends across the wax 
to ease building and maybe give some thread locking, but more in hopes of 
keeping moisture from being forced into the junction of spoke and nipple 
threads as the wheel spins.
It's very good stuff for putting on any threaded fastener or hook that goes 
into wood. Much easier, even with a battery-powered, handheld drill.

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

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> I bought one of the original Dixie Cups of beeswax from Rivendell as long 
> as 20 or 25 years ago, and could never find a real use for it: Loctite is 
> easier and works perfectly for threads, I prefer the way the little 
> squishable aluminum end caps look on cable ends, and Johnson's Paste Wax or 
> the lotion I use on my leather chairs works better for my (Flite) saddles.
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Re: [RBW] Organized Rides 2020

2020-06-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

DC Randonneurs is restarting its schedule, beginning with the July 4 
weekend.  Your local club may do the same, because recent changes by 
RUSA make electronic proof of passage possible.  People argued for it 
for years, but it took a Pandemic to shake loose entrenched rules.


Organized rides - probably not.  USA Cycling and LAB issued some Best 
Practices documents outlining steps to be taken to put on an event.  
They're beyond the scope of a cycling club putting on a club century, in 
my opinion.  Although it's hard to see how a club could be successfully 
sued by a participant who might have caught Covid-19 (after all, how 
could you tell they got it at your event?) if you were in flagrant 
disregard of Best Practices put out by the professional organizations in 
the field, you sure would look negligent and might end up having to 
prove you /weren't/ responsible, and good luck with that.  Add to that, 
you know going in your attendees aren't going to respect social 
distancing while they're pacelining, and the documents call for everyone 
to wear masks all the time they're riding, and for sure there are going 
to be people who won't or can't.  (I wanted to and tried, but I just 
can't make it work.)


On 6/20/20 4:18 PM, Brady Smith wrote:

I’ve heard rumors from the local randonneuring club (New Jersey) that there may 
be a populaire or two this summer, but everything else in my area is canceled.


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Re: [RBW] Hunq Redux

2020-06-20 Thread James Davis

Heck yeah, Dave! This looks awesome!!

Best,
James

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> After quite a few years of a rear racked setup, I decided to change things
> up a bit on the Hunq.  I removed my rear Nitto Campee 32R and mounted a B&M
> Secula on the non-drive seat stay.   I'm going to try my Swift Zeitgeist in
> rear with a 139 up front instead of the 137 I was running.  I bought the
> Wald 139 bag and it seems pretty solid.
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Re: [RBW] Hunq Redux

2020-06-20 Thread James Davis

I also run a 139 on front. I think you are going to like it a lot! Don’t
forget to get that camping seat that Riv offers to pad down the front rack
if carrying fragile goods!

Best,
James
Denver

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> After quite a few years of a rear racked setup, I decided to change things
> up a bit on the Hunq.  I removed my rear Nitto Campee 32R and mounted a B&M
> Secula on the non-drive seat stay.   I'm going to try my Swift Zeitgeist in
> rear with a 139 up front instead of the 137 I was running.  I bought the
> Wald 139 bag and it seems pretty solid.
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Re: [RBW] Hunq Redux

2020-06-20 Thread Dave Grossman

Thanks James! 

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[RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

2020-06-20 Thread John Rinker

Thanks Carl. I've been fortunate in so many ways, not the least of which 
was getting my butt into the saddle of this fine bicycle that seems to have 
no limits on what it can do or where it can go. 

Cheers, John

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 5:26:44 AM UTC-7, Carl wrote:
>
> John, it's gratifying to see photos of your bicycle out in such diverse 
> and beautiful locations around our planet!
>
> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:54:09 PM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>>
>> A few snaps from my bugs-in-teeth ride to the confluence of the Slocan 
>> and Little Slocan Rivers. #gottalovebc
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_5646.jpg][image: IMG_5644.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 8:08:07 AM UTC-7, Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>
>>> Why do many of us feel compelled to share pics from our rides?
>>>
>>> From my perspective a good bike ride is just so enjoyable on a variety 
>>> of levels I just want to share it. 
>>>
>>> Some things that come to mind are that a good ride can be:
>>> therapeutic, de-stressing, 
>>> good exercise, renewing,
>>> peaceful, recharging of the batteries,
>>> inspiring, and restorative. 
>>> (Ok, some of these mean the same thing.)
>>>
>>> I'm sure many of you are of a similar mind and have insights and pics to 
>>> share of what a good ride does for you and you don't want to keep it to 
>>> yourself but share it.
>>>
>>> It's not like we haven't already been doing this over the years already 
>>> but I didn't have a specific thread to go to on the Riv list so I just 
>>> started this one.
>>>
>>> I built this bike frame up for a friend the last few days and decided to 
>>> go on a 10 mile shake down ride to check it over.
>>>
>>> Please share your pics and perspectives.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>> [image: Image]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

2020-06-20 Thread Leah Peterson

Yes, Jeremy, I think I’m doing 52 steel Boscos on the Platypus. I don’t want 
bars with sleeves anymore.

For anyone who needs to know: If you want to rid the Technomic stem of the hex 
nut and replace it with the triangular nut from Riv, make sure you also order 
the bolt. Neither Mark nor I thought I’d need the bolt, but you do, because the 
threads are different from one another. Get both bolt and stem. I just placed 
my order for the bolt, so hopefully it comes in a few days and this is the end 
of the matter!

Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> I can't say that I've read every post in the thread but just to echo 
> something Benz said: in my experience creaking is endemic with all of the 
> various sleeved Nitto bars, so if the bar in question is of the sleeved 
> variety that's probably the culprit in my mind. If I remember correctly the 
> sleeved aluminum Boscos that I rode from 2014-2016 creaked, and those were 
> clamped in a 4 bolt removable faceplate threadless stem of the appropriate 
> size, so one of the most solid bar/stem connections out there. The M151 drop 
> bars i currently have on my Rambouillet with a Technomic Deluxe creak when I 
> pedal out of the saddle. I've always just lived with it because it didn't 
> really bother me and didn't seem to get worse or otherwise make me feel like 
> something was about to fail. YMMV, of course, but if avoiding the creak was a 
> priority and the other solutions suggested didn't work, I'd consider going 
> back to the steel Boscos (which I assume weren't sleeved) or other non 
> sleeved bars.
> 
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

I never in a million years would have guessed the bolt would be different, too. 
Oops!

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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

2020-06-20 Thread Mark Roland

Hi Kim. I think what they are talking about is a kind of extender for the 
bb, to turn a 68mm into the required 73mm for the Susie.

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 11:49:59 PM UTC-4, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> hi alex happy solstice likewise,
>
> As to the parts for my aspirational susie, I got a lovely wheelset (27's) 
> from Joe and Allbatross bars with alivios from Sean. (thx yall!!!)
> I've yet to dig through my parts bin, which is a vortex. I think i have a 
> set of original s-flag cranks if anyone wants those.
>
> (david that's very exciting btw about your frame being ready)
>
> I am going with the silvers - that have the holes whatever they are called.
> There is one detail i keep forgetting to post is that I had to order 
> mis-matched b/b cups for it. 
> I've never heard of this before - ?? - but Will knew what to include. I am 
> sure I will be calling him with a bunch of questions once I get going on it.
>
> I plan on 2.5 tires, tho if i decide to go wider 
> (i think the susie tolerates up to 3.0) i think i need the longer spindle.
>
> Riv made me a list of suggested parts, in case it's helpful:
>
>
> [image: IMG_3634.PNG]
>
> happy trails from kim in az
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:16 PM Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
> 482...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> After inviting a wicken over to cast some spells on my phoneI 
>> received that golden phone call from Will at Rivendell!
>>
>> My Susie is getting ready to be packed up and shipped.  I added some odds 
>> and ends to the order but I was curious if anyone else on the list has 
>> received their Susie yet?
>>
>> Any tips or tricks on the build that I should consider?
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>>
>> -Alex in Rochester, NY where the weather has been dandy.
>>
>> PS Happy early solstice everyone!
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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Hey Mark
You are right. I had to get a 68 and a 73.

I kept wondering what difference it would make tho- because I would still
just be threading them all the way in.

Now that you say that...so it must be the flange that is wider and will
extend further? (Lol sry if this is obvious and I am being dense.)



On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:39 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> Hi Kim. I think what they are talking about is a kind of extender for the
> bb, to turn a 68mm into the required 73mm for the Susie.
>
> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 11:49:59 PM UTC-4, Flowerfang wrote:
>>
>> hi alex happy solstice likewise,
>>
>> As to the parts for my aspirational susie, I got a lovely wheelset (27's)
>> from Joe and Allbatross bars with alivios from Sean. (thx yall!!!)
>> I've yet to dig through my parts bin, which is a vortex. I think i have a
>> set of original s-flag cranks if anyone wants those.
>>
>> (david that's very exciting btw about your frame being ready)
>>
>> I am going with the silvers - that have the holes whatever they are
>> called.
>> There is one detail i keep forgetting to post is that I had to order
>> mis-matched b/b cups for it.
>> I've never heard of this before - ?? - but Will knew what to include. I
>> am sure I will be calling him with a bunch of questions once I get going on
>> it.
>>
>> I plan on 2.5 tires, tho if i decide to go wider
>> (i think the susie tolerates up to 3.0) i think i need the longer spindle.
>>
>> Riv made me a list of suggested parts, in case it's helpful:
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_3634.PNG]
>>
>> happy trails from kim in az
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:16 PM Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
>> 482...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After inviting a wicken over to cast some spells on my phoneI
>>> received that golden phone call from Will at Rivendell!
>>>
>>> My Susie is getting ready to be packed up and shipped.  I added some
>>> odds and ends to the order but I was curious if anyone else on the list has
>>> received their Susie yet?
>>>
>>> Any tips or tricks on the build that I should consider?
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Alex in Rochester, NY where the weather has been dandy.
>>>
>>> PS Happy early solstice everyone!
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[RBW] Brooks Brown v. Black

2020-06-20 Thread William deRosset

I vote for riding the black saddle until it looks brown. I have one Berthoud 
saddle that is approaching antique brown via usage, and a Brooks Pro that is 
there. The well used but not abused look is the best one.



Best Regards,

Will
William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO USA

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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

It's not obvious to me at all, Kim. I know what a 73mm BB and shell are, but I 
don't know why they kludged a 68 and 73 together. That's...odd. 

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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Hi joe :)
Well -when I asked grant the question- he said essentially that same thing:
it’s odd but that’s just how it works. ??

(least I can add ‘kludge‘ to my vocabulary now. I can def use that !)

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 6:29 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It's not obvious to me at all, Kim. I know what a 73mm BB and shell are,
> but I don't know why they kludged a 68 and 73 together. That's...odd.
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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Can someone post a picture of the 68/73mm combo bottom bracket. 
I’m having trouble visualizing why it wouldn’t just be a 73mm. 

Will a 73mm bottom bracket take a standard square taper crank or are we looking 
at a new standard?


Ray

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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Hi ray- good question.
don’t have mine yet (and I don’t know quite how to picture it either.)



On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 6:41 PM Ray Varella  wrote:

> Can someone post a picture of the 68/73mm combo bottom bracket.
> I’m having trouble visualizing why it wouldn’t just be a 73mm.
>
> Will a 73mm bottom bracket take a standard square taper crank or are we
> looking at a new standard?
>
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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

2020-06-20 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch

Leah

When you install the bolt & triangular nut, can you post a picture of the 
"shelf" without any bolt or nut present??   If the shelf shows no signs of 
missing metal where the hex bolt contacted it, then the hole for the bolt 
was drilled lower than it should have been drilled.   This is a possible 
source of the less than adequate tightening of the stem clamp

I still do not see a mechanistic explanation of why the sleeve on the bar 
is a source of the ticking noise.I have used a B177 (Noddle) and a B132 
(radonnuer) in 225mm quill technomics without any sounds.

Without an explanation, other than it happened to others, I would be weary 
of ruling out use of sleeved bars.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ. 


On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 7:03:04 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Yes, Jeremy, I think I’m doing 52 steel Boscos on the Platypus. I don’t 
> want bars with sleeves anymore. 
>
> For anyone who needs to know: If you want to rid the Technomic stem of the 
> hex nut and replace it with the triangular nut from Riv, make sure you also 
> order the bolt. Neither Mark nor I thought I’d need the bolt, but you do, 
> because the threads are different from one another. Get both bolt and stem. 
> I just placed my order for the bolt, so hopefully it comes in a few days 
> and this is the end of the matter! 
>
> Leah 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Jeremy Till  > wrote: 
> > 
> > I can't say that I've read every post in the thread but just to echo 
> something Benz said: in my experience creaking is endemic with all of the 
> various sleeved Nitto bars, so if the bar in question is of the sleeved 
> variety that's probably the culprit in my mind. If I remember correctly the 
> sleeved aluminum Boscos that I rode from 2014-2016 creaked, and those were 
> clamped in a 4 bolt removable faceplate threadless stem of the appropriate 
> size, so one of the most solid bar/stem connections out there. The M151 
> drop bars i currently have on my Rambouillet with a Technomic Deluxe creak 
> when I pedal out of the saddle. I've always just lived with it because it 
> didn't really bother me and didn't seem to get worse or otherwise make me 
> feel like something was about to fail. YMMV, of course, but if avoiding the 
> creak was a priority and the other solutions suggested didn't work, I'd 
> consider going back to the steel Boscos (which I assume weren't sleeved) or 
> other non sleeved bars. 
> > 
> > -Jeremy Till 
> > Sacramento, CA 
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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

"Will a 73mm bottom bracket take a standard square taper crank or are we 
looking at a new standard?"

Yes it'll take a square taper crank, I've built a bunch of bikes with 73mm 
shells this way. You just need a spindle/arms combination wide enough to clear 
wider chainstays.  

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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Would it have something to do with the fact I am going 2X (not 3)?

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 7:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> "Will a 73mm bottom bracket take a standard square taper crank or are we
> looking at a new standard?"
>
> Yes it'll take a square taper crank, I've built a bunch of bikes with 73mm
> shells this way. You just need a spindle/arms combination wide enough to
> clear wider chainstays.
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Re: [RBW] Seen some Gus builds, no Susies yet....

Kim, if I'm going to take a wild guess - AND I AM - I'm going to say your 
combination asks for a spindle length they like/can get in a 68 BB, so they're 
glomming on (or kludging!) a cup from a 73 to make it fit that shell. Which 
probably works great and come to think of it I think I've done this at least 
once. I'm pro glom/kludge 😉

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