[RBW] Trainers?

[Joe Bernard]

I'm sure I could learn all about this on the Google, but I'm also sure it's 
going to take me down a road of fit 29-year-old guys in Lycra living a cycling 
life I neither understand nor want to. So:

I was just getting back into the swing of regular (read: non-ebike) riding when 
this Covid19 thing pretty much shut down my outdoors time (long story I can't 
explain here). So I'm looking at my Clem L and thinking maybe I should hook it 
up to an indoor trainer, but I know nothing of how these things work and how 
you ride them without being bored to tears in 15 minutes. Does anyone here use 
them? 

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[RBW] Trainers?

[ted]

I have used trainers in the past. The bored to tears thing was a real problem. 
I listened to music. Some folks watch videos. These days there is also zwift  
which gives a virtual group riding game like aspect to the endeavor.
Aside from boredom, riding trainers also can get painful as folks tend to have 
a much more static position than when out on the road. There is also the 
problem of overheating and sweat with no breeze, you’re liable to need a good 
fan.
I’ll put in a favorable word for rollers over the more ubiquitous stationary 
varieties. Learning to ride them well is a challenge that lends more interest 
and satisfaction. At least for a while.
Good luck with finding a solution that works for you.

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Garth]

  A very long ago I rode the original "Turbo Trainer" , then later Krietler 
Rollers. The TT was most disliked as the bike itself couldn't move and it 
was indoors. I'm not one for indoor or stationary "exercising". The rollers 
at least you are actually riding and balancing and you realize quickly how 
to handle your bike amazing well, just all in the same one place. I tried 
doing these outside too, that takes care of overheating, but still I felt 
like I was in a cage outdoors.  If I had to do such again I'd get rollers 
as all you do is get on and ride the rollers with your complete bike and no 
attachments or detachments. I found them very easy to ride too, no handed, 
standing etc.  There is just no substitute for riding outdoors on the road 
over hill and dale, all the nuance of wind and road and sun and the smells 
and the people and the scenery.   

In the winter I walk every day for an hour or two. I live amidst hills and 
woods and steep ravines withe waterfalls unnoticed by anyone who doesn't 
explore the woods right under their noses !  

If I was "advised" not to leave the house because of potential danger to, 
or I myself was "the threat"  I'd consider the validity of that source. 
Threat to/from who or what ? The "advice, the claim of power/authority" of 
course. It's validity.  

It's like a Mafioso coming to your house and telling you you need the 
Mafia's protection.  Protection from who ? The Mafioso of course.  "Pay up, 
heed my advice ... or else I'll be the threat to you and your home".  And 
so it goes with "threats" disguised as "keeping you safe". Consider the 
source and their "intentions"... which are always ... "serve me and what I 
tell you, all you gotta do is give up your Life to me  trust me and let 
me run things ... I know what's best for you. If you don't follow me, you 
are against me and I will do everything in my power to let you know it, you 
will pay dearly." 

The Truth is  Truth... ITSELF ... Indivisibly Indivisible.  Truth is 
not under threat , never could be and never will as there isn't anything 
"else". 

You know that saying .. "If God be for Me, who be against Me ?"  
None, neither for OR against . simply " Perfection ... Wholeness  
Indivisibility " 

Yeah ... Party on indeed !... and this Party is Existence Itself .  



On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:52:40 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm sure I could learn all about this on the Google, but I'm also sure 
> it's going to take me down a road of fit 29-year-old guys in Lycra living a 
> cycling life I neither understand nor want to. So:
>
> I was just getting back into the swing of regular (read: non-ebike) riding 
> when this Covid19 thing pretty much shut down my outdoors time (long story 
> I can't explain here). So I'm looking at my Clem L and thinking maybe I 
> should hook it up to an indoor trainer, but I know nothing of how these 
> things work and how you ride them without being bored to tears in 15 
> minutes. Does anyone here use them? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Michael Baquerizo]

Despite that bit above, I'd say the advice to stay home is sound.

No experience with either, but if I had the room I'd love to try out rollers. 

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

[Steve Palincsar]

You don't get to choose collar bones, but they do tend to choose 
themselves a lot.


Still, if you can manage it, the best thing is to not crash at all.  The 
point of my sending photographs along with descriptions of the crashes 
at those places has been to make explicit the little-noticed dangers 
that have brought others to grief in the hope that you can, forearmed 
with knowledge, avoid experiencing them yourself.



On 3/18/20 1:10 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Oh my gosh, Philip. You made it all the way home and nearly died in your 
driveway.

Also, I’m shocked at how many of you have flown over your handlebars. And that 
you seem to have escaped broken ribs and necks. I now think about your stories 
on my rides and am imagining all the ways I might also go over the bars. I 
morbidly wonder which bones would be the best ones to break and have the least 
impact on my life. I wonder if collarbones are the obvious choice. I don’t want 
to be on crutches, and so much can go wrong with hands, I really don’t want 
anything facial, maybe a couple of ribs wouldn’t be the worst, no surgery, and 
all...now this is what I think about. 😜


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Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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[RBW] Crash Stories

[ted]

When I was fairly young (pre teen I’m pretty sure) I took a judo class at the 
ymca. The first thing they focused on was “learning to fall”.  Of course I 
can’t be sure but I suspect that that early training is part of the reason I’ve 
been lucky enough to get through several “unplanned get offs” over the 
intervening decades without a broken bone.

Try not to worry, find someone to do bump and touch drills with, and maybe take 
a beginner judo class. Though many folks have been seriously hurt riding a 
bike, many of us have not. Though I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who’s 
ridden a lot that never fell. Please don’t fret about it too much. Usually 
there is no damage or just some “road rash.

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[RBW] Trainers?

[Howard Hatten]

I have the kinetic fluid trainer. It will give you a workout. It will not give 
you the fun of cycling. If you think you would be satisfied riding one of those 
spin bikes in your home I would recommend the fluid trainer. If you get one be 
prepared for the puddles of sweat on the floor and on your bike. I ended up 
buying an old 80’s trek road bike so my good bike didn’t get all salty from the 
sweat. 

Howard
Livonia Mi

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Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

[Eric Floden]

I too learned to practice falling from age 10-up (IIRC inspired by cub
leader), and that has really helped me avoid injury in countless bicycle,
motorbike, and ski crashes over the years...

My best non-crash was riding at local market area (Granville Island) with
old rail tracks still in place. One wet day, I was riding my Fargo where
the tracks were parallel to the direction of travel, and tried to ease
across these tracks. Something did not work as hoped, and the front wheel
must have "tripped " on the rail, causing me to do a 180. I ended up still
right-side up but facing the opposite direction I had just come from!

Happily, no motor vehicles were nearby..

Phew,

EricF
Van BC

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl]

Wheels and Hunq sold! 
Atlantis is Toyo. I bought it used from a guy a few years back to make into a 
commuting beast. Moved farther than I am comfortable commuting in Nashville and 
it’s tired of collecting dust! 

Rivendell custom... let’s say $850 with a max $900 including shipping to lower 
48 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[yavo]

I like your wall mounts!
-- 
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Jenkintown, PA
https://www.twistcomm.com/FredBikes.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl]

Thanks Fred! Link below. I was trying to find something that would hold 
securely without taking away of the beauty of my bike art!

https://www.amazon.com/Powerfly-Wall-Mount-Repair-Stand/dp/B06XWFVDPR/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=wall+mounted+bike+stand&qid=1584547314&sr=8-6

Karl
Nash, TN

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 10:59:04 AM UTC-5, fyavorsky wrote:
>
> I like your wall mounts!
> -- 
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> Jenkintown, PA
> https://www.twistcomm.com/FredBikes.html 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Ryan M.]

I've had several trainers in the past, from magnetic drive ones, fluid 
ones, to a Wahoo Kickr smart trainer. The best and most enjoyable I've used 
is the smart trainer. Get on Zwift, or Trainer road and you don't have to 
think about shifting and have proper power levels throughout the workout. 
Zwift will give you some sort of gaming function, where Trainerroad is 
purely workout related. You can even use the Wahoo app to control the 
trainer if you don't want to up for a subscription service. I've used every 
Riv I've owned on a trainer at one time or another and the bikes work great 
for it. 

what I like to do if I'm just looking to move the legs is stick on a movie 
or a tv series, stick a easy workout on trainerroad onto my phone and just 
spin for an hour or so. It's great for those days that weather-wise don't 
work for outdoor riding. 

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 3:52:40 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm sure I could learn all about this on the Google, but I'm also sure 
> it's going to take me down a road of fit 29-year-old guys in Lycra living a 
> cycling life I neither understand nor want to. So:
>
> I was just getting back into the swing of regular (read: non-ebike) riding 
> when this Covid19 thing pretty much shut down my outdoors time (long story 
> I can't explain here). So I'm looking at my Clem L and thinking maybe I 
> should hook it up to an indoor trainer, but I know nothing of how these 
> things work and how you ride them without being bored to tears in 15 
> minutes. Does anyone here use them? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks everyone. 

Garth, it's not advice about staying home. It's related to my schedule and how 
Covid19 is going to affect it for a while, which I can't explain because then I 
have to basically explain my whole life to a bike forum and haven't I already 
done enough of that? Yes I have! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Minh]

oh geez, i gotta stop perusing this group, otherwise Karls Home Office FS 
thread is gonna become my Home Office Buy thread.  

thats a nice looking atlantis, and my size.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Joe Bernard]

Minh. Dooo t 😬

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[RBW] How do you ride alone?

[Andrew Huston]

I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get ideas 
on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike, how you make 
it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you pedal hard or 
take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate, whatever. Go nuts. 
This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we deal 
with this weird new world.

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Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Presale

[Davidbea]

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-4, David Hays wrote:
>
> My orange Appaloosa is expected on Monday.
> I’m not looking to do a the standard wide upright bar(Albatross) but am 
> considering a Soma Sparrow, a Midge on One, an Albustache or a Velo Range 
> Porteur all with bar end shifters and Hetres.
> I’m using the mint MB-3 I just picked as a test mule.
> Does anyone have any experience with any of these bars on an Appaloosa?
> I’ll starting the build next week. A nice project to stay occupied in this 
> crisis.
> Thanks
> David
>
> MB-3 before and after
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 2:34 PM, David Hays <23wr...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> I just jumped in a reserved one of the last orange ones.
> Now to work on the shopping list to have them put in the box.
> David 
>
> On Feb 26, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Lithocarpus > 
> wrote:
>
> I just got home from the shop.  They showed me one of the new orange 
> Appaloosas that was being built up.  The orange is ridiculously gorgeous! 
>  It's very slightly on the burnt orange side of the spectrum, particularly 
> compared to the reddish-orange roadini that was hanging up nearby.  I think 
> the construction pumpkin on the orange XO was a higher-key color, as is the 
> color that I decided on with D&D for my Appaloosa.
>
> And I took a Susie for a lap around the parking lot and have decided that 
> I have to sell one of my other bikes so that I can buy a hillibike.  I 
> can't wait to take it out for a spin on the trail once my knee is all 
> healed.   Visiting headquarters is dangerous to my bank account!   
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 5:05:02 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I've only seen it on the Susie and it has more of a reddish rust look to 
>> me than on XO-1. But that's a solid-color bike, it may look different with 
>> white panels. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Chris M]

I just bought a set of rollers this week for the very same reason. The 
learning curve was short-- took about 15 minutes from zero to being 
(mostly) comfortable. 

There was more resistance than I was expecting, so it's not a bad workout 
at all. A friend who used to race helped me with adjusting them and sent 
links to good cycling YouTube videos. I'm going to post my laptop on a 
plant stand, watch the videos (mostly to keep my eyes from wandering-- the 
wobbles come fast if you stray!), and listen to my favorite radio shows. 

They have a nice aural feedback that tells you how round (or not round) 
your pedal stroke is. Looking forward to coming out of this ordeal 
stronger, more stable, and more efficient! 

Good luck, and stay safe. 

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:52:40 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm sure I could learn all about this on the Google, but I'm also sure 
> it's going to take me down a road of fit 29-year-old guys in Lycra living a 
> cycling life I neither understand nor want to. So:
>
> I was just getting back into the swing of regular (read: non-ebike) riding 
> when this Covid19 thing pretty much shut down my outdoors time (long story 
> I can't explain here). So I'm looking at my Clem L and thinking maybe I 
> should hook it up to an indoor trainer, but I know nothing of how these 
> things work and how you ride them without being bored to tears in 15 
> minutes. Does anyone here use them? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Bill Lindsay]

That would be the best instragram video ever to see a Clem L rocking on 
rollers. 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] FS: Clem L 45cm

[Joe Bernard]

Frame sold. 

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Paul Clifton]

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 6:32:02 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> If I had to do such again I'd get rollers as all you do is get on and ride 
> the rollers with your complete bike and no attachments or detachments. I 
> found them very easy to ride too, no handed, standing etc.  There is just 
> no substitute for riding outdoors on the road over hill and dale, all the 
> nuance of wind and road and sun and the smells and the people and the 
> scenery.   
>

My rollers won't get long enough to fit my MTBubbe, so there's one more 
quirk of long bikes I guess. I'll try the 45 Clem L, just to see some time.

I do like rollers more than trainers though, for what I use 'em for.

Paul in NW AR

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Garth]

 
   Paul, for Kreitler rollers at least they sell extensions , I copied and 
pasted for eases sake !  

*Tandem/Recumbent Frame Extension*

Extends the Standard frame to fit 57.5” to 75.5” wheelbase 
applications. Perfect for Tandems and Recumbents.
MSRP $74.95

*Intermediate Frame Extension Kit*

Extends the Standard Frame to fit 48.5” to 63.75” wheelbase applications
MSRP $59.95

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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Paul Clifton]

:)

The extensions cost as much as my rollers! I could probably find the right 
size extruded aluminum if I really wanted to.

Pretty cool that people ride tandems on rollers though.

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 3:17:00 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>  
>Paul, for Kreitler rollers at least they sell extensions , I copied and 
> pasted for eases sake !  
>
> *Tandem/Recumbent Frame Extension*
>
> Extends the Standard frame to fit 57.5” to 75.5” wheelbase 
> applications. Perfect for Tandems and Recumbents.
> MSRP $74.95
>
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[RBW] Re: Trainers?

[Joe Bernard]

"Tandems on rollers"

That's relationship commitment! 😁

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I wave at every car (being fairly rural helps with that), which is both 
friendly and increases safety. I look like a regular guy, I ride in the 
right tire "lane" and I get passed slowly and curtiously 99.99% of the 
time. I ride to a trailhead about 7 miles away. It is 4-5 miles, depending 
what route is taken, which depends on snow/ice conditions mostly. I have a 
number of spots I pipe, coffee, and write at for a few hours, then I ride 
home. I write with a raw wood pencil, knife sharpened to get a tip that 
writes for hours, cursive to paper on a leather folio that doubles as a lap 
desk when flipped over. Coffee is home roasted, brewed at home and kept hot 
in a 20oz narrow neck Kleen Kanteen thermos. Sometimes I also pray the 
rosary.

With abandon,
Patrick

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>
> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get 
> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike, 
> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you 
> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate, 
> whatever. Go nuts. 
> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we 
> deal with this weird new world.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I was impressed by those fixtures, also!
What are the wheel holders that you are using to hang wheels from the wall?

Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 9:03:06 AM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>
> Thanks Fred! Link below. I was trying to find something that would hold 
> securely without taking away of the beauty of my bike art!
> 
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I am the queen of riding alone...because I never have anyone to ride with. 
☹️ 

Living out here in exile (Vegas) I have had to be creative to keep my bike 
culture fresh. I’ve taken to making dumb videos that I set to music and 
post to Instagram, because that’s where the bike people are. Then we chat. 
Sometimes my videos showcase something beautiful I’ve found, sometimes they 
show my love for my Rivendell bike, but more often than not, they’re 
spoofs. Usually at my loved ones’ expense. I’ll include my video of my 
“shakedown ride” for my new Clem L from this fall. And if you want more of 
that kind of nonsense, all you must do is ask. What else do we have to do? 
😜

I am always on my Clem L these days, and I rarely bring refreshments. I 
have my favored routes which always take me somewhere pretty or to 
accomplish an errand. Sometimes I stop and let the sun bake into my bones 
at a park, but usually I keep moving. I love to listen to music or podcasts 
or even audiobooks. Or, I make dumb videos. 

What do you do? 
I’ll send the video in a second post, because that’s how this platform 
works, I guess.
Leah

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>
> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get 
> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike, 
> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you 
> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate, 
> whatever. Go nuts. 
> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we 
> deal with this weird new world.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[aeroperf]

Well, I can give you the “do it for the exercise” version.  I’ve been 
riding solo for the past 5 years.

I live on a bike trail and can go either east or west.  Which way I go 
depends on the wind - I ride into the wind going out, so it is behind me 
riding home.  How hard I pedal depends on how I feel that day.

I roll out my Sam Hillborne with one bottle of water and a Snickers bar, 
loop once through the neighborhood, and head down the trail.  If I go east, 
I typically do 14 miles.  If I go west I do 9, 14, or 20 miles.  That is 
total for out-and-back.  At the furthest point I eat the Snickers bar.  
:-)  When I get back I loop through the neighborhood again to cool down.  I 
try to get in 50 miles a week during the good months - April-October - and 
slightly less during the winter.  My biking goal is to beat the same 
month’s mileage from the previous year.

I used to have my phone in my rear pocket and use wireless headphones.  But 
I found I really liked listening to what was going on around me rather than 
music, so the phone went into the bike bag for emergencies.

I thought doing the same trail every ride would be boring, but it turns out 
that a lot happens in a green corridor.  Wildlife, trees, and even the 
pavement change with the day and with the seasons.  For me the wildlife 
makes it special, everything from deer and foxes to Cooper’s hawks and 
feral cats.

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[dougP]

Andrew:

I ride alone a lot.  It's nice to just walk out the door & hop on my bike, 
without making plans.  I'm lucky to live in an area with a good bike trail 
system so taking the same loop doesn't become a problem.  My short loop is 
11 miles, and longest one frequently done is 28.  The trusty Atlantis is 
perfect for these rides.  There's a couple of excellent parks that make 
good destinations.  One has extensive formal gardens, while the other one 
has small lakes, and a regular group of radio control sailors that are fun 
to watch.  Life at bike speed is enough excitement for me.

dougP

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>
> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get 
> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike, 
> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you 
> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate, 
> whatever. Go nuts. 
> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we 
> deal with this weird new world.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I actually never really fit in with a bike community anywhere I've
lived(Currently Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NY). So I ride alone by choice and by
default.  I'll occasionally ride with friends that do, but not often.
Sometimes I'll chat it up with another rider in the bike paths.

What I'm taking, depends on what I'm doing. Sometimes I carry my flask,
usually pineapple rum or Rieger's Kansas City Whiskey. Sometimes a pipe.
Often, especially if I'm riding w/o a destination, or in the case I'm
riding thru a desolate area like Bushwick, I have my bluetooth speaker,
usually playing he crypto-homo rockers(Hedwig and the Angry Inch reference
to Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, and David Bowie) or lately, lots of Brian Eno and
Patti Smith.
Usually a film camera. Coffee I get to go iced coffee and depending on if
I've eaten or not a hard boiled egg from the bakery near my apartment.
Coldbew coffee goes into a Makeshifter Canvasworks Snackhole on the
Quickbeam.   If on the steamroller I get a medium coffee in a large cup, or
a large and drink it down so it doesn't slosh out, depending on how much
time I have.
Very rarely bring food on a ride unless its a long ride, mostly I choose to
stop and grab a bite at a place along the way. Tho that might not be an
option at the current time for some of us.

I pedal hard thru the areas filled filled with people, but take it slow and
enjoy the ride most of the time.
If I see something else interesting along the way, I'll stop for it. A
pizza, a beer, a dog to pet, a picture to take, a sight to behold, etc...
A fun detour, a shortcut, a long way,  go for it.

I always stop for another cyclist in need. Even if you don't have a spare
tube or a pump handy, they might have one and are bad at or don't know how
to change a tire, or just want someone to chat with while they're doing it.
Sometimes someone has a crappy wrench and you have a better one. Always
stop and check on them if you can.
Say hi to, wave, or acknowledge everyone on the same path, bike or ped. For
me usually it's a nod and raising my hand off the bars in a low wave.

--ben




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> 
> I am the queen of riding alone...because I never have anyone to ride with.
> ☹️
>
> Living out here in exile (Vegas) I have had to be creative to keep my bike
> culture fresh. I’ve taken to making dumb videos that I set to music and
> post to Instagram, because that’s where the bike people are. Then we chat.
> Sometimes my videos showcase something beautiful I’ve found, sometimes they
> show my love for my Rivendell bike, but more often than not, they’re
> spoofs. Usually at my loved ones’ expense. I’ll include my video of my
> “shakedown ride” for my new Clem L from this fall. And if you want more of
> that kind of nonsense, all you must do is ask. What else do we have to do?
> 😜
>
> I am always on my Clem L these days, and I rarely bring refreshments. I
> have my favored routes which always take me somewhere pretty or to
> accomplish an errand. Sometimes I stop and let the sun bake into my bones
> at a park, but usually I keep moving. I love to listen to music or podcasts
> or even audiobooks. Or, I make dumb videos.
>
> What do you do?
> I’ll send the video in a second post, because that’s how this platform
> works, I guess.
> Leah
>
> On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get
>> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike,
>> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you
>> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate,
>> whatever. Go nuts.
>> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we
>> deal with this weird new world.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Joe Bernard]

I love that video, Leah. WooHOOO!!! 😂🤣

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Re: [RBW] How do you ride alone?

[Eric Daume]

I make up errands: returning books to the library, running to the grocery
store. Lately I’ve been finding the “little free libraries” and circulating
books through them.

I used to never use headphones, but now I almost always do. Music or
podcasts. I have a big network or little used MUPs around me, so I don’t
really worry about traffic.

I also bought a tandem last fall. Now my kids always want to ride with me.
So there’s one answer: grow your own riding companions.

Eric
Plain City OH

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> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike,
> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you
> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate,
> whatever. Go nuts.
> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we
> deal with this weird new world.
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Carla Waugh]

I ride alone 99 percent of the time. I ride my ss if I'm only riding on a short 
15 miles ride without a ton of incline. If I'm riding further into the country 
I take my geared bike for the hills at until I'm in better shape I only have 
short spurts of dirt and gravel available from my house. So road it is for me 
most of the time. I have my bags so I can take things or pick up grocery's but 
not so much now. I take a thermos of cold or hot coffee and some snack. Solo is 
my meditation.

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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Scott Calhoun]

There is another perspective on this from Spain. A doctor there (who is 
also a cyclist) made a video pleading with cyclists not to ride at all in 
this point in this point in the outbreak as there are simply not doctors 
and space to handle cycling accidents on top of the virus patients. My 
daughter lives in Madrid and she and her riding friends are only riding 
home trainers right now.

I'm not suggesting we are there yet, or telling others what to do, but I'm 
personally only doing solo rides right now. The majority of cycling 
accidents I've been involved in and know of occured on group rides. Riding 
solo is risk mitigation. Keeping out of the emergency room helps everybody 
at least as much as social distancing. 

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 4:21:11 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> People really appreciate the bell on the trail, even more than the usual 
> gushing. Lots of great interactions from a few steps back, as folks release 
> the tensions they have. Interactions are easier now that everyone social 
> distances (which I've long tried to do because of the scents of most 
> peoples laundry, shampoo etc, let alone the effect of unexpected hand on 
> the shoulder. Sardonic grin.).
>
> I saw the Bay area is instructed to shelter in place save for food, 
> emergencies, care of others, and exercise. Time for some long rides to the 
> middle of nowhere, aye?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl]

Took me a minute! 
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/409839826/offset-bicycle-wheel-storage

Karl

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Matthew P]

Hi Karl,

I'm interested in the Atlantis.  I sent a private this morning.  I don't 
know if it went through and I can't find a trace of it.
Feel free to private message me back with anything else you can tell me 
about it.  Does it include a headset and bottom bracket?

Thank you
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> Took me a minute! 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/409839826/offset-bicycle-wheel-storage
>
> Karl
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[RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Tim Bantham]

Hey Bunch, I am excited to share my Clem Smith build with you all. This is 
my third Rivendell which will complement my Sam Hillborne and a Joe 
Appaloosa. My Sam is my go-to for all kinds of riding where my Appaloosa 
serves as my traditional touring bike with racks and fenders.  The vision 
for the Clem was to have it serve as an analog mountain bike as well as a 
capable dirt tourer. 


The build is modern and non-traditional in the Riv sense. This was not my 
original plan but it sort of morphed into that. My first purchase for the 
bike after the frame was a Son Widebody dynohub that I purchased here from 
a fellow list member. The hub was black so I decided that I would make all 
of the components black with a touch of gold. I had the Nitto R10 ceramic 
coded in matte black along with the King cages, seatpost and lamp holder. 
My good friends Candice and James at Analog cycles helped me with the 
parts. As a result, a touch of Analog’s style and influence is evident in 
the build. I also built the wheels myself. This was my first time building 
wheels from start to finish. I want to thank Bryan from Utility Bicycles in 
Kingston, NY for coaching me through that. I am super happy with how the 
bike came out and especially proud because I did all of the work myself. 
Not bad for a careerist with a desk job! 


Link to a shared photo album below. For the true bike nerds among us I am 
including the build details as well. 

·  

 

Clem Build Photos 

 

 

 ·   59 Clem H Frameset

·   Velocity Cliffhangers

·   White Industries MI5 Rear Hub

·   Son Widebody Dynohub

·   White Industries ENO crankset

·   White Industries 32 Tooth Single Ring

·   Connex 11 speed chain

·   Spank Pedals

·   Sunrace 11x50 rear cassette

·   SRAM Rival 1X rear derailleur

·   Paul Motolite brakes

·   Paul Love Levers

·   Paul Thumbies with Shimano DA shifter (friction)

·   Schmidt Edulux II headlight

·   Nitto R-10 Rear Rack

·   Brooks B17 Saddle

·   Nitto R83 seatpost

·   Nitto/Crust 31.8 stem

·   Jones H Bar

·   Oury Grips

·   Tanglefoot Peruvian Tape

·   Schwalbe Rocket Rons 2.25 

·   Swift Zeitgeist saddle bag

 

 

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Craig Montgomery]

That's a big order Andrew. Do you mean solo for local stuff? To keep 
yourself healthy, supplied, and giddy? Or do you mean solo touring? Which 
is a whole 'nother ball of wax and could fill a book. Or at least a thick 
pamphlet. 

Craig in Tucson
Touring Solo Since 1980

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>
> I had a thought. Considering the current situation it could be fun to get 
> ideas on how you ride solo. I want specifics. Where, how far, what bike, 
> how you make it special? Do you bring coffee, bourbon, a pipe, food? Do you 
> pedal hard or take it easy? Maybe read at a favorite spot, meditate, 
> whatever. Go nuts. 
> This could give us ideas on how to reinvent our time on the bike while we 
> deal with this weird new world.
>
>

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[RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Michael Morrissey]

That looks great! How do you like the drivetrain and shifters?

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Andrew Huston]

Craig, thinking of those local rides mostly but I’m happy to hear how you go 
long and solo. 

As for me, my rides are pretty short generally. Anywhere from four to 20 miles 
at longest. I have small kiddos and they require (and I’m happy to give) my 
time. I’m more than pleased with the length. I find some comfort in the 
familiar country roads around me. Much of it is flat, low traffic, with some 
gravel and woods here and there. I take a beverage, usually water but sometimes 
a bourbon flask. No snacks. I’m taking my time lately, looking in the fields 
for deer or turkey. Often I stop somewhere particularly quiet to soak that in. 
I long for some warmer temps here in Michigan but the cold has a way of making 
you feel alive. 
Either my Clem H or newly acquired Kona Rove ST take me there. Flat pedals for 
sure. 

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[RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Tim,
A brilliantly created high end Clem.  Love to see that others have no 
hesitation upgrading a Clem beyond a standard build which meets so many 
perfectly as an introduction to Rivendell.  Jealous of your successful Wheelset 
build.  Looks fabulous love the color combos and emphasis down to the smallest 
detail.

Happy travels; Just ride!

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just..




Ryan
WM
49445

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[RBW] Re: My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Collin A]

Tim, that Clem looks too clean! But In all seriousness, that bike looks 
gorgeous. It also looks like the parts and build are super dialed, so 
hopefully you won't do what I've done and slowly replaced everything on the 
clem over the past 2 years :)

I hope it brings you miles of dust and mud and plenty of good stories.

Cheers,
Collin in SAC

On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-7, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> Hey Bunch, I am excited to share my Clem Smith build with you all. This is 
> my third Rivendell which will complement my Sam Hillborne and a Joe 
> Appaloosa. My Sam is my go-to for all kinds of riding where my Appaloosa 
> serves as my traditional touring bike with racks and fenders.  The vision 
> for the Clem was to have it serve as an analog mountain bike as well as a 
> capable dirt tourer. 
>
>
> The build is modern and non-traditional in the Riv sense. This was not my 
> original plan but it sort of morphed into that. My first purchase for the 
> bike after the frame was a Son Widebody dynohub that I purchased here from 
> a fellow list member. The hub was black so I decided that I would make all 
> of the components black with a touch of gold. I had the Nitto R10 ceramic 
> coded in matte black along with the King cages, seatpost and lamp holder. 
> My good friends Candice and James at Analog cycles helped me with the 
> parts. As a result, a touch of Analog’s style and influence is evident in 
> the build. I also built the wheels myself. This was my first time building 
> wheels from start to finish. I want to thank Bryan from Utility Bicycles in 
> Kingston, NY for coaching me through that. I am super happy with how the 
> bike came out and especially proud because I did all of the work myself. 
> Not bad for a careerist with a desk job! 
>
>
> Link to a shared photo album below. For the true bike nerds among us I am 
> including the build details as well. 
>
> ·  
>
>  
>
> Clem Build Photos 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  ·   59 Clem H Frameset
>
> ·   Velocity Cliffhangers
>
> ·   White Industries MI5 Rear Hub
>
> ·   Son Widebody Dynohub
>
> ·   White Industries ENO crankset
>
> ·   White Industries 32 Tooth Single Ring
>
> ·   Connex 11 speed chain
>
> ·   Spank Pedals
>
> ·   Sunrace 11x50 rear cassette
>
> ·   SRAM Rival 1X rear derailleur
>
> ·   Paul Motolite brakes
>
> ·   Paul Love Levers
>
> ·   Paul Thumbies with Shimano DA shifter (friction)
>
> ·   Schmidt Edulux II headlight
>
> ·   Nitto R-10 Rear Rack
>
> ·   Brooks B17 Saddle
>
> ·   Nitto R83 seatpost
>
> ·   Nitto/Crust 31.8 stem
>
> ·   Jones H Bar
>
> ·   Oury Grips
>
> ·   Tanglefoot Peruvian Tape
>
> ·   Schwalbe Rocket Rons 2.25 
>
> ·   Swift Zeitgeist saddle bag
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

[Chris L]

A co-worker showed me his wireless, bone conduction earphones, which loop 
around the outside of each ear and the back of the neck.  You can hear 
everything that is going on around you thru your ears while at the same 
time, hearing music thru bone conduction.  

My first thought was that I need a set of these for bike rides. 

I don't know what brand he has but this is an example of how they are worn:

[image: 91rbpdruxql._sl1500_-e1583523428794.jpg]





On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:53:30 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote:
>
>  
> I used to have my phone in my rear pocket and use wireless headphones.  
> But I found I really liked listening to what was going on around me rather 
> than music, so the phone went into the bike bag for emergencies.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Curtis McKenzie]

Tim,

That is a sweet ride.

Enjoy,

Curtis

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 4:25 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:

> Hey Bunch, I am excited to share my Clem Smith build with you all. This is
> my third Rivendell which will complement my Sam Hillborne and a Joe
> Appaloosa. My Sam is my go-to for all kinds of riding where my Appaloosa
> serves as my traditional touring bike with racks and fenders.  The vision
> for the Clem was to have it serve as an analog mountain bike as well as a
> capable dirt tourer.
>
>
> The build is modern and non-traditional in the Riv sense. This was not my
> original plan but it sort of morphed into that. My first purchase for the
> bike after the frame was a Son Widebody dynohub that I purchased here from
> a fellow list member. The hub was black so I decided that I would make all
> of the components black with a touch of gold. I had the Nitto R10 ceramic
> coded in matte black along with the King cages, seatpost and lamp holder.
> My good friends Candice and James at Analog cycles helped me with the
> parts. As a result, a touch of Analog’s style and influence is evident in
> the build. I also built the wheels myself. This was my first time building
> wheels from start to finish. I want to thank Bryan from Utility Bicycles in
> Kingston, NY for coaching me through that. I am super happy with how the
> bike came out and especially proud because I did all of the work myself.
> Not bad for a careerist with a desk job!
>
>
> Link to a shared photo album below. For the true bike nerds among us I am
> including the build details as well.
>
> ·
>
>
>
> Clem Build Photos 
>
>
>
>
>
>  ·   59 Clem H Frameset
>
> ·   Velocity Cliffhangers
>
> ·   White Industries MI5 Rear Hub
>
> ·   Son Widebody Dynohub
>
> ·   White Industries ENO crankset
>
> ·   White Industries 32 Tooth Single Ring
>
> ·   Connex 11 speed chain
>
> ·   Spank Pedals
>
> ·   Sunrace 11x50 rear cassette
>
> ·   SRAM Rival 1X rear derailleur
>
> ·   Paul Motolite brakes
>
> ·   Paul Love Levers
>
> ·   Paul Thumbies with Shimano DA shifter (friction)
>
> ·   Schmidt Edulux II headlight
>
> ·   Nitto R-10 Rear Rack
>
> ·   Brooks B17 Saddle
>
> ·   Nitto R83 seatpost
>
> ·   Nitto/Crust 31.8 stem
>
> ·   Jones H Bar
>
> ·   Oury Grips
>
> ·   Tanglefoot Peruvian Tape
>
> ·   Schwalbe Rocket Rons 2.25
>
> ·   Swift Zeitgeist saddle bag
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Joe Bernard]

I dig the gold headlight. Bling!

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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Nick Payne]

Present US population ~330 million. On Johns Hopkins figures 
(https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
 
so far from COVID-19 there are ~8800 deaths from 218000 cases - that's 
about 4% death rate. If half the US population gets this in the next 12 
months, which is a reasonable ballpark figure given that there is no 
immunity and no vaccine, even if we say that the death rate is really only 
2%, because a lot of mild cases have been missed, you still have 
330,000,000 / 2 * 0.02 = 3.3 million deaths... Extrapolate that to the 
world population, and you get about 60 million dead - pretty much the same 
as the Spanish flu in 1918-20.

On Sunday, 15 March 2020 08:27:03 UTC+11, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In 2017-18 there were 80,000 deaths from the flu in the US. 900,000 people 
> went to the hospital because of the flu. Per: 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/last-years-flu-broke-records-for-deaths-and-illnesses-new-cdc-numbers-show/2018/09/26/97cb43fc-c0ed-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html
>
> Make of that what you will.
>

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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Joe Bernard]

I wish I could could call those numbers alarmist, but I'm seeing NO evidence 
that we aren't in for a truly world-changing event over the next year. Like a 
'Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact speech' event, "Life will go on. We will 
prevail." 

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Ryan Stanis]

Tim, build came out great! Love the all-black everything on a riv, esp. the
nitto r10! I need to pick one of those up in black for myself.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:11 PM Collin A  wrote:

> Tim, that Clem looks too clean! But In all seriousness, that bike looks
> gorgeous. It also looks like the parts and build are super dialed, so
> hopefully you won't do what I've done and slowly replaced everything on the
> clem over the past 2 years :)
>
> I hope it brings you miles of dust and mud and plenty of good stories.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in SAC
>
> On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-7, Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch, I am excited to share my Clem Smith build with you all. This
>> is my third Rivendell which will complement my Sam Hillborne and a Joe
>> Appaloosa. My Sam is my go-to for all kinds of riding where my Appaloosa
>> serves as my traditional touring bike with racks and fenders.  The vision
>> for the Clem was to have it serve as an analog mountain bike as well as a
>> capable dirt tourer.
>>
>>
>> The build is modern and non-traditional in the Riv sense. This was not my
>> original plan but it sort of morphed into that. My first purchase for the
>> bike after the frame was a Son Widebody dynohub that I purchased here from
>> a fellow list member. The hub was black so I decided that I would make all
>> of the components black with a touch of gold. I had the Nitto R10 ceramic
>> coded in matte black along with the King cages, seatpost and lamp holder.
>> My good friends Candice and James at Analog cycles helped me with the
>> parts. As a result, a touch of Analog’s style and influence is evident in
>> the build. I also built the wheels myself. This was my first time building
>> wheels from start to finish. I want to thank Bryan from Utility Bicycles in
>> Kingston, NY for coaching me through that. I am super happy with how the
>> bike came out and especially proud because I did all of the work myself.
>> Not bad for a careerist with a desk job!
>>
>>
>> Link to a shared photo album below. For the true bike nerds among us I am
>> including the build details as well.
>>
>> ·
>>
>>
>>
>> Clem Build Photos 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ·   59 Clem H Frameset
>>
>> ·   Velocity Cliffhangers
>>
>> ·   White Industries MI5 Rear Hub
>>
>> ·   Son Widebody Dynohub
>>
>> ·   White Industries ENO crankset
>>
>> ·   White Industries 32 Tooth Single Ring
>>
>> ·   Connex 11 speed chain
>>
>> ·   Spank Pedals
>>
>> ·   Sunrace 11x50 rear cassette
>>
>> ·   SRAM Rival 1X rear derailleur
>>
>> ·   Paul Motolite brakes
>>
>> ·   Paul Love Levers
>>
>> ·   Paul Thumbies with Shimano DA shifter (friction)
>>
>> ·   Schmidt Edulux II headlight
>>
>> ·   Nitto R-10 Rear Rack
>>
>> ·   Brooks B17 Saddle
>>
>> ·   Nitto R83 seatpost
>>
>> ·   Nitto/Crust 31.8 stem
>>
>> ·   Jones H Bar
>>
>> ·   Oury Grips
>>
>> ·   Tanglefoot Peruvian Tape
>>
>> ·   Schwalbe Rocket Rons 2.25
>>
>> ·   Swift Zeitgeist saddle bag
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] My Clem Smith JR. Build revealed!

[Joe S]

Not your usual Rivendell, but very nice.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 7:46 PM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That looks great! How do you like the drivetrain and shifters?
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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Drw]

I’d classify members of my family as science-skeptical, like a number of the 
higher up posts, so I am not As deeply offended as others, but I’m growing more 
and more curious. I would ask what anyone who resists doing what every 
scientist and expert is suggesting expects to gain from such resistance. 

My father found a small flaw on a graph today and used that as evidence that 
“nobody really knows what’s going on”. That seems to be the line on a bunch of 
stuff. Climate change- “nobody knows everything/the jury is out.”. I don’t 
understand the need to shove these tiny wedges into what we do know. Who does 
it help? What does anyone gain? What do you personally gain by downplaying the 
information of people who know more than you on a certain subject? Where does 
the need to do that downplaying come from?

Seems like the potential damage of using irrelevant info to dismiss relevant 
info is...risky. 

The conversation I had today was frustrating. Excuse the venting. 

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