[RBW] WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[Conway Bennett]

I have this bike but I want lots of money because they nailed the model name.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/VH8xs3DJcMqnTT2M2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rH9uyy2bhm5gqZgA3

Fair winds,

Captain Conway
www.ChicaGoByBoat.com
@svnightswimming

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[RBW] Re: Black 52cm Clementine F/F/HS $700 plus bikeflights

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

While I will dearly miss my Clementine, I am happy to say it will remain in 
the extended Rivendell family.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 5:53:08 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>
> I wish I was not writing this ad, but unfortunately, I need to generate 
> some cash, and my Clementine, aka Clem Smith Jr. L-style, is one of the few 
> bikes I own with any real measurable resale value. It has been truly a joy 
> to ride, and if my circumstances were different, I would keep this bike 
> until the day I could no longer pull myself onto the saddle.
>
> $700 + bikeflights for black 52cm frame and fork, headset, brake levers 
> and calipers, kickstand, and seat post, excellent condition. That's $150 
> off the current price, and there are no 52cm framesets currently available. 
> Plus looks like a price increase is inevitable.  Frame is in great shape, 
> and the glossy black paint is amazing. Thank you and please return to your 
> regularly scheduled programming. I will oblige all inquiries off list. 
>  
> *Included:*
>
> *First iteration black 52cm frame & fork; has the white paint details, and 
> "CLEMENTINE" written on the downtube*.
>
> *Also included from the "complete bike" kit: headset, seat post, brake 
> levers and calipers, kickstand, *
>  
> Surly 8 pack rack that I modified slightly to work with this bike is an 
> extra $50 for frame buyer if desired, $80 if not sold with frame. 
>
> Frame is in very very good condition. It was well cared for and always 
> parked indoors on both ends of the commute.
>
> Here are some pictures of the complete bicycle: 
> https://goo.gl/photos/Xyf3kVj4ENcXVSiw5
>

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Re: [RBW] Riding within me means ... more fixed gear contemplations

[Deacon Patrick]

John, the rear pockets on the Reigns are not in contact with the saddle for me 
(being up and outward), and that’s where I like my wallet and phone. In the 
front or cargo pockets those weightly items are annoying as every motion has 
them moving. 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Have a sub 40 lb Atlantis?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You can get eyeglasses with titanium frames. Another little weight-saving 
trick: seltzer water.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:26:19 AM UTC-5, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> Haha, it probably depends on what’s in those bags!  I have a cable, heavy 
> lock, tools, tubes, pen, change, and things I don’t even know about in that 
> handlebar bag.  I found a spare pair of eye glasses left over from a tour 
> in there the other day. 
>
> Bill

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[RBW] WTB: SILVER downtube shifters

[Belopsky]

Anyone have these or similar before I order curved washers and use my 
Shimano 8speed?

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Boxy Rando Bag and Rear Saddle Roll Bag - Tan

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I will buy both.  PM me to work out the details.  

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:30:15 PM UTC-6, Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
> Acorn Bags!  Sparingly used Boxy Rando Bag and rear Saddle Roll Bag - in 
> Tan
> Boxy Rando Bag is older version that has velcro straps on the bottom to 
> secure to rack.
>
> Boxy Rando Bag - $125
> Rear Saddle Roll Bag - $35
> OR
> Purchase together for $150
>
> Shipping included within CONUS
>
> Also have racks for sale if interested. 
>

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[RBW] Compass Knickers questions

[Deacon Patrick Jones]

True to actual bare-skinned waist measurement? 

They look to fit to the real waist rather than hips, is that accurate?

Experience with heartiness in regular riding?

Other input?

(Thread started S extension of my other thread on “riding within my means”)

With abandon,
Patrick

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www.OurHolyConception.com

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Patrick,
I wear 30 in most pants, and 30 Compass knickers fit as expected. 

I'm not sure I understand the real waist vs hips question. 

As for heartiness: I've been disappointed with the knickers. They started 
to pill along the upper thighs after only a few rides. I wear wool upper 
layers, perhaps a Riv-MUSA long-sleeve shirt, and I wouldn't expect pilling 
so early.

YMMV, 
Good luck!
shoji



On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:13:30 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> True to actual bare-skinned waist measurement? 
>
> They look to fit to the real waist rather than hips, is that accurate?
>
> Experience with heartiness in regular riding?
>
> Other input?
>
> (Thread started S extension of my other thread on “riding within my means”)
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.com *
>

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Garth]

Forgive me for "budding" in, but DP is referring to the actual waist 
measurement. Just for some FYI , in the garment industry the designers call it 
the "garment waist" or some may just say "actual". With the garment laid flat, 
measured about 1" below the very top of the waist fabric. Many manufacturers 
will gladly tell you all the actual measurements for a given article of 
clothing just for the asking !  It can really help for comparing with a garment 
you actually have. 

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[RBW] Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[John Buglino]

Very nice build Igor!  I always love the look mustache bars 

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[EasyRider]

Nicely done, I'd have set mine up the same way. Moustache bars are a 
practical choice for a singlespeed. Looks like plenty of room for a frame 
pump behind the seat tube? Be sure to post pictures with the bars wrapped. 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 8:24:18 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/PJGnXh1e68QPzoXq2
>
> Only thing missing in this photo are the bars I've now wrapped. Might swap 
> for a different seatpost/pedals and attempt fenders one more time, but 
> otherwise complete.
>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[Lum Gim Fong]

Love the color and the custom HT lugs!!

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[RBW] Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Lum Gim Fong]

I forgot.
How much are the rando bags?

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[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

[Nancy Seibel]

Nice to hear this, Jay!

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 10:34:06 PM UTC-5, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> I use my big Clem L (64cm) as a run-around bike for very local errands. I 
> absolutely love the bike. It's a joy to ride.
>
> Jay
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:56:42 PM UTC-8, Nancy Seibel wrote:
>>
>> Hi, there, I'm seriously thinking of buying a Clem L (I know...that's how 
>> it starts) and wanted to hear from those of you have ridden this bike. What 
>> do you like about it? Any dislikes? How is it on hilly routes? What about 
>> long rides - defined as 30-60+ miles?
>>
>> I test rode one for a short spin around town and loved it. But would I 
>> Iove it in hilly Baltimore County MD, on a century or out for a multi-day 
>> tour?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your comments!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Have a sub 40 lb Atlantis?

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:54:49 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> You can get eyeglasses with titanium frames. Another little weight-saving 
> trick: seltzer water.
>
> Seltzer water comment made me laugh right in the middle of a sip of 
> coffee. What a mess. 
>
Clay B. 

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[RBW] Re: Informal poll: Sam Hillborne sizing, 6' tall about an 85PBH?

[Marc40a]

John,

I'll reach out to you when I get home. I'm about your size (6' tall, my 
saddle height is 77.5 from saddle center to crank center.)

I have a 56 Sam (57.5 TT)  that I'm reluctantly selling this spring in MA.  
I have pics, measurements, advice. 

Best,
Marc

 

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 2:38:19 AM UTC-5, John W wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm reaching out for some input regarding current Sam Hillbornes.
>
> I'm 6' tall with an 85PBH (say, 86.25 PBH with shoes.) Saddle height 
> ~75cm, a Brooks B17 which runs about 6cm tall.
>
> Riv recommends a size 55 frame, but I know I could ride a 58. I'll ride on 
> pavement and trails. Less so, gnarly track. And I'll set up drop bars about 
> 1cm lower than my saddle. 
>
> My concerns are:
>
> — will I have enough exposed stem above the headset and cable hanger in 
> front?
> — will the bike handle oddly with just ~2cm of exposed stem?
> — am I setting myself up for the inability to use taller upright bars in 
> the future?
>
> I cribbed this photo from a fellow with a shorter saddle height than me:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/4354827488/in/pool-hillborne/
>
> The 55 is the safe bet, while the 58 looks doable. 
>
> I'm cautious of getting a bike that's too small for me. Generally 
> speaking, I'm a 56cm on Surly road frames and I don't feel stretched out on 
> them.
>
> What say you? 55 or 58?
>
> Separately, looking at the geo charts on Riv's site, the Stack and Reach 
> measurements on the Sam Hillbornes look off to me, but perhaps I'm not 
> correctly parsing the effect of the 71.5 STA.
>
> Apologies for the naval gazing email. Any input would be appreciated.
>
> John in NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: SILVER downtube shifters

[Julian Westerhout]

Are you aware these are again in stock at Riv?   http://tinyurl.com/y8z9why2

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:09:29 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Anyone have these or similar before I order curved washers and use my 
> Shimano 8speed?
>

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[RBW] Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[Davey Two Shoes]

I like the seat choice. A nice touch of levity

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[RBW] Riding within me means ... more fixed gear contemplations

[Davey Two Shoes]

Love your bike, love your bloghate that you don't use foot retention. Seems 
less pure somehow. To each their own :)

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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[dougP]

Lum:

Lots of sources but two that come to mind are Acorn and Swift.  

dougP

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:06:53 AM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> I forgot.
> How much are the rando bags?
>

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Deacon Patrick]

Shoji, Garth is right, the actual measurement is part of my question 
(manufactures often make people feel good by shifting the size of their waist: 
“Wow! In XYZ jeans, Im a 34, not a 38! I’ll buy XYZ” But another aspect is the 
rise. The trend is hip hugging low rider pants, which require sizing up to get 
more room to wear them if you prefer (as I do) the waist to actually be at the 
waist. At which point, sizing is very odd, having a lot of extra room at the 
waist that has to be taken up by a belt. That’s how the Reign knickers fit, but 
the fabric is thin, so not a huge deal.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] San Francisco/Walnut Creek Trip Report

[rob markwardt]

Greetings,
Back in frosty Seattle after a fantastic trip to San Francisco/East bay.  
The highlight was riding with listmember JoeB. yesterday who took me on a tour 
up Mt. Diablo and then down the trails leading back to Walnut Creek and 
Rivendell.  If you've never been here put it on your must do list.  The trails 
go on for miles and it's even more  spectacular than the Rivendell catalogs 
make it look.  Rivendell HQ is just as funky as I expectedcrammed warehouse 
shop, bikes leaning all over, rides around the building on new bikes, Grant and 
crew looking just like you'd expect them to.   Great fun...THANK YOU JOE!
  Other highlights from the weekend included riding a rental bike across the 
Golden Gate bridge up into the hills behind Mill Valley and Mt. Tam.  Wish I 
had more time to explore this area but still had a great day...even on a 
Cannodale "sport hybrid"!
  Also walked miles around the city seeing the sights and checking out many 
different neighborhoods.  The architecture and "oldness" of the city is 
amazing.  Definitely a big city feel with a lot of grittiness in many areas but 
a nice a change from current day Seattle where we are leveling entire blocks to 
accommodate the current boom. 
   Thanks to Joe and others who offered me the use of there bikes...happy to 
return the favor to any of you. 

Spent more time soaking it in than taking pics but here's a few on my Flickr...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Deacon Patrick]

Shoji, I just spoke with Theo at Compass and asked about the pilling. He said 
they’d take care of me if that happened, that it shouldn’t and he knows of two 
pair that happened with. Sounds like the great customer service I’ve 
experienced before with Compass (and Riv).

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: San Francisco/Walnut Creek Trip Report

[dougP]

Thanks for the photos & sharing your experience.  Glad you enjoyed the 
visit.  RBWHQ is a special place, totally real.  One of my must-visit stops 
whenever I'm in the Bay Area.

dougP

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 11:12:55 AM UTC-8, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> Back in frosty Seattle after a fantastic trip to San Francisco/East 
> bay.  The highlight was riding with listmember JoeB. yesterday who took me 
> on a tour up Mt. Diablo and then down the trails leading back to Walnut 
> Creek and Rivendell.  If you've never been here put it on your must do 
> list.  The trails go on for miles and it's even more  spectacular than the 
> Rivendell catalogs make it look.  Rivendell HQ is just as funky as I 
> expectedcrammed warehouse shop, bikes leaning all over, rides around 
> the building on new bikes, Grant and crew looking just like you'd expect 
> them to.   Great fun...THANK YOU JOE!
>   Other highlights from the weekend included riding a rental bike across 
> the Golden Gate bridge up into the hills behind Mill Valley and Mt. Tam. 
>  Wish I had more time to explore this area but still had a great day...even 
> on a Cannodale "sport hybrid"!
>   Also walked miles around the city seeing the sights and checking out 
> many different neighborhoods.  The architecture and "oldness" of the city 
> is amazing.  Definitely a big city feel with a lot of grittiness in many 
> areas but a nice a change from current day Seattle where we are leveling 
> entire blocks to accommodate the current boom. 
>Thanks to Joe and others who offered me the use of there bikes...happy 
> to return the favor to any of you. 
>
> Spent more time soaking it in than taking pics but here's a few on my 
> Flickr...
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Have a sub 40 lb Atlantis?

[dougP]

I use an Acorn Rando bag, the original small one, as a self limiting load 
control.  Whenever I take it off the bike, I'm amazed at how much it 
weighs, and start rooting around to see what's in there.  Always find odd 
bits I thought I'd lost.  

dougP

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:26:19 PM UTC-8, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> Haha, it probably depends on what’s in those bags!  I have a cable, heavy 
> lock, tools, tubes, pen, change, and things I don’t even know about in that 
> handlebar bag.  I found a spare pair of eye glasses left over from a tour 
> in there the other day. 
>
> Bill

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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Paul Choi]

Ruthworks SF

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:06:53 AM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
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> I forgot.
> How much are the rando bags?
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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Garth]

David Banzer also . 

http://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/front-bags

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> I forgot.
> How much are the rando bags?
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT- 40 hole 145mm rear hub, or wheel with one. + other tandemy things

[Julian Westerhout]

Kai, 

If you do go with the Velocity prebuilt wheel, pay a really good wheel 
builder to stress relieve and tweak it for you.

Julia Westerhout
Blomington, Il 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:45:53 PM UTC-6, Kainalu V. wrote:
>
> I gave a call today, they've got sets for sale, but since I've got 
> tubeless in mind and a 40 hole dyno hub headed my way, I'll likely end up 
> going with a velocity built rear wheel (novatech/velocity hub and 
> cliffhanger) and locally built front. 
>  Anybody familiar with the "zenith" hub sold by SJS? 
> https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hubs-cassette-rear/zenith-tandem-6bolt-disc-89-speed-rear-cassette-hub-145mm-oln-40h/?geoc=US
> There's not too much info available on the website, but the price is 
> pretty good. Too good maybe?
> -Kai
> BK NY 
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[Eli Queen]

Looks great! Love the blue. If the logo is what's bothering you about that 
seatpost, it's just printed on. It comes off in no time with some # 
steel wool.

- Eli

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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I've bought from David and highly recommend him.  I can't speak to the 
others mentioned from my own experiences.

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[RBW] Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[Deacon Patrick]

Stunner!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[WETH]

Bumping this as I am still seeking one: Black--medium or large.
With thanks,
Erl

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:53:18 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
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> Please let me know if you have one for sale.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[drew]

and you can call it "Pacman" for short


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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Banzer is the one. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Lum Gim Fong]

Why knickers and not something like MUSA long pants? I would think full leg 
coverage would be better in frosty Colorado.

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Re: [RBW] Re: CANTI SAM BUILD

[Jon Dukeman]

Bob,
Thanks.
Here's a couple of photos that shows the 44mm tires the clearance at the
front fork and seat stay bridge.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/39695515394/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/39695504954/

Jon


"FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK "

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Bob Warner  wrote:

> Cool bike Jon - love the color!  Love the variety of ways this bike get
> built up!!
>
> Happy trails!
> Bob
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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Deacon Patrick]

Great question, Lum. How much of an answer do you want? Ready? Duck! Grin.

For me, pants create a lot of fabric motion on the leg, which most people never 
notice, but which adds to the “noise” my brain has to cut through to function 
in the world. Shorts, less so, but can easily be more than knickers. Knickers, 
cinched at the knee, allow full freedom of motion with minimal fabric motion 
over the skin. Less clutter for me brain to deal with means more, better, 
longer rides, and greater recovery and healing over time.

The macro concept that is part of is that we all get a daily allotment of 
“brain energy” and we have to stay in the “black” like any wise budget does. 
But with brain injury, instea of $10,000, I get $100 per day. And costs are 
more (anyone under any kind of stress pays more in daily brain energy costs), 
so while a car ride may cost a brain healthy person $5, it costs me $25. 
However, riding my bike (and running) increase my daily brain budget by 50% 
each day I ride. Fixed gear by 175%. So even with the “costs” of traffic noise, 
I usually come out ahead. But I have to save wherever I can. Also, healing and 
long term recover only happen when I am in the “black.” When something 
overloads my brain and costs me $300 (three days budget) in a few seconds, I am 
in debt and need three days to recover. One of the gifts of fixed gear is I can 
ride even on some of these recovery (in the red) days, speeding up my “income” 
and thus my recovery.

Just remember... you asked. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Riding within me means ... more fixed gear contemplations

[Philip Williamson]

I think you must mean "more pure?"

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 10:53:40 AM UTC-8, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
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> Love your bike, love your bloghate that you don't use foot retention. 
> Seems less pure somehow. To each their own :)

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[RBW] Riding within me means ... more fixed gear contemplations

[Deacon Patrick]

Shrug. Sigh. Grin.

Though I quote meself: “Conventional wisdom so often thinks more of itself than 
it ought. Grin.”

Technically, I have foot retention: ankle above, spikes below. Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Interesting 56 cm Sam Hilborne frame on Ebay (not mine) - $375.00 OBO

[Kevin Lindsey]

It has a couple of dents, but looks to be a really lovely frame at a really 
attractive price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-Touring-Randonneuring-Trail-Frameset-56cm-/192462979032?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

Kevin Lindsey
Alexandria, VA
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[RBW] Re: WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[drew]

Well DP said i should call Riv because he heard that they may be doing 
another run of mtn mixtes. While that news didn't happen to be true, they 
did tell me that they found one hiding behind some boxes that happens to be 
my size. So, problem solveduntil i get home and have to explain this to 
my wife. 

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[RBW] PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Bob Lovejoy]

Seems if you really want a 56cm Atlantis, you might have some decisions to 
make (26" vs 650B).

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles

Also some Frank Jones Sr frames

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-frames


Ok, I check these things more than I should...

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[DaveS]

Waxwing bag did a nice front bag for my Bombadil

Waxwingbag.com

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[RBW] Chroming a Rivendell?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Anyone chromed their 'dell upon need for a repaint?

Any downsides to chroming? Is it expensive?

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[RBW] PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Joe Bernard]

Ah geez, a complete 53cm Atlantis for $2600. Help!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Racking

[Nathan Spindel]

A surprise resolution to this thread! I just ordered the blue 59 Frank
Jones Sr that went on the 'web specials' today. That's the Rivendell single
speed frame I actually wanted when I got this Quickbeam. Very excited!

This also means I'll have a very nice condition 60cm green Quickbeam for
sale. Email me if you're interested.

Cheers,
Nathan

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Huh. I removed CR720s, and installed CX50s.
> I bend-fudged the arms a bit, since the rack had been repaired, but
> everything lined up perfectly, including the fender drilling to the M12
> mount. The Wald was welded right to the rack, too, which is pretty ratrod
> couture.
>
> I do not use the double-ended bolts, I just bolt the rack arms to the
> cantis with the normal canti bolt. It works for me. You crazy kids with
> your “measuring” and your “special bolts!”
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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[RBW] Re: Interesting 56 cm Sam Hilborne frame on Ebay (not mine) - $375.00 OBO

[Ian A]

Well, that went quickly! Not to me, I was too late.

IanA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:55:35 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
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> It has a couple of dents, but looks to be a really lovely frame at a 
> really attractive price.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-Touring-Randonneuring-Trail-Frameset-56cm-/192462979032?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
>
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
> USA
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[RBW] Unsafe helmets

[Michael Hechmer]

Before you buy your next helmet you should consider this:
https://www.bikebiz.com/news/anti-gun-bike-brand-boycott

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Re: [RBW] Unsafe helmets

[Bill Gibson]

I like some Nutcase designs. 



Get Outlook for iOS





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Before you buy your next helmet you should consider 
this:https://www.bikebiz.com/news/anti-gun-bike-brand-boycott






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[RBW] Unsafe helmets

[Joe Bernard]

This topic is a bad idea for this forum. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Steve Butcher]

Excellent explanation, Patrick.  Many of the bodily functions involve 
reserves and restoration.  

->Steve Butcher
   Stockton, Missouri

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:39:42 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Great question, Lum. How much of an answer do you want? Ready? Duck! Grin. 
>
> For me, pants create a lot of fabric motion on the leg, which most people 
> never notice, but which adds to the “noise” my brain has to cut through to 
> function in the world. Shorts, less so, but can easily be more than 
> knickers. Knickers, cinched at the knee, allow full freedom of motion with 
> minimal fabric motion over the skin. Less clutter for me brain to deal with 
> means more, better, longer rides, and greater recovery and healing over 
> time. 
>
> The macro concept that is part of is that we all get a daily allotment of 
> “brain energy” and we have to stay in the “black” like any wise budget 
> does. But with brain injury, instea of $10,000, I get $100 per day. And 
> costs are more (anyone under any kind of stress pays more in daily brain 
> energy costs), so while a car ride may cost a brain healthy person $5, it 
> costs me $25. However, riding my bike (and running) increase my daily brain 
> budget by 50% each day I ride. Fixed gear by 175%. So even with the “costs” 
> of traffic noise, I usually come out ahead. But I have to save wherever I 
> can. Also, healing and long term recover only happen when I am in the 
> “black.” When something overloads my brain and costs me $300 (three days 
> budget) in a few seconds, I am in debt and need three days to recover. One 
> of the gifts of fixed gear is I can ride even on some of these recovery (in 
> the red) days, speeding up my “income” and thus my recovery. 
>
> Just remember... you asked. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I am very grateful right now that neither of these are in my size. 

The Frank Jones is really beautiful.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 5:08:07 PM UTC-6, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Seems if you really want a 56cm Atlantis, you might have some decisions to 
> make (26" vs 650B).
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles
>
> Also some Frank Jones Sr frames
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-frames
>
>
> Ok, I check these things more than I should...
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Chroming a Rivendell?

[Eric Norris]

You might find someone who will do it cheaper, but if you’re looking for 
bicycle-quality chrome plating, it’s not cheap. Here are Joe Bell’s prices, 
which include $350 to chrome plate a fork and $500 to plate just the rear stays 
and dropouts: http://www.joebell.net/pdf/JB_form_09-17_v2.pdf 

Custom plating an entire frame would be prohibitively expensive.

--Eric N
Twitter/Instagram/YouTube: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:
> 
> Anyone chromed their 'dell upon need for a repaint?
> 
> Any downsides to chroming? Is it expensive?
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Bob Lovejoy]

There must be a new and lucky owner of a 56cm 650B Atlantis around as there 
was one posted, now not showing.  

Also, one of the rare, somewhat mythical, 59cm Frank Jones Sr frames was 
also posted, now also gone.  Maybe it was a mistake in the posting but it 
was there.
Seems I remember Grant mentioning he really wanted one so I hope he bought 
it.   Maybe he sat there thinking he could resist and just could not, like 
the rest of us at times :>)

Bob

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[RBW] Riv request for store credits

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal supporters to 
purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash flow jump. I 
promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am happy to help them 
out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy from them. While I was 
doing this I also got an email with the request.  I’d encourage you all to read 
your email or visit their website for complete details
Chris
Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Chris]

yep, just saw the email and did my "Hail Mary" deed...  

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:38:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier 
wrote:
>
> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal 
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash 
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am 
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy 
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request. 
>  I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for 
> complete details 
> Chris 
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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[RBW] Riv request for store credits

[Christopher Murray]

Bought some credits. Hmmm what can I spend them on? 

“YOPP!”

Cheers!
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[RBW] Riv request for store credits

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Apologies for my typos.  I’m shopping now too

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Bill Lindsay]

"Seems I remember Grant mentioning he really wanted one so I hope he bought 
it."

Given their latest cashflow crisis, it is MUCH more likely that Grant had 
it set aside, and elected to release it to us to help solve the cashflow 
problem. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:25:21 PM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> There must be a new and lucky owner of a 56cm 650B Atlantis around as 
> there was one posted, now not showing.  
>
> Also, one of the rare, somewhat mythical, 59cm Frank Jones Sr frames was 
> also posted, now also gone.  Maybe it was a mistake in the posting but it 
> was there.
> Seems I remember Grant mentioning he really wanted one so I hope he bought 
> it.   Maybe he sat there thinking he could resist and just could not, like 
> the rest of us at times :>)
>
> Bob
>

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[RBW] Riv request for store credits

[MartyG]

Bought a handful of credits, but honestly would rather donate them back. I get 
way more value from Rivendell than I return anyway. A printed catalog will be 
cool though. That alone is worth five Hail Marys to me. Probably more. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[reynoldslugs]

yep, I'm in.

Team Rivendell has materially made my life better since 1999.  No brainer 
here.

I might not have returned to cycling (back in 1999) but for Rivendell.  The 
cardiologist says it's more or less kept me from checking out, so I think 
this is a good investment for me.

thanks G and Co

Max

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

['Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just bought one too. Anything to help out. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Racking

[Philip Williamson]

Congratulations again! The Frank Jones seems like it would be pretty happy 
with a Tubus and an Ortleib. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:48:07 PM UTC-8, nathan wrote:
>
> A surprise resolution to this thread! I just ordered the blue 59 Frank 
> Jones Sr that went on the 'web specials' today. That's the Rivendell single 
> speed frame I actually wanted when I got this Quickbeam. Very excited!
>
> This also means I'll have a very nice condition 60cm green Quickbeam for 
> sale. Email me if you're interested.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Philip Williamson  > wrote:
>
>> Huh. I removed CR720s, and installed CX50s.
>> I bend-fudged the arms a bit, since the rack had been repaired, but 
>> everything lined up perfectly, including the fender drilling to the M12 
>> mount. The Wald was welded right to the rack, too, which is pretty ratrod 
>> couture.
>>
>> I do not use the double-ended bolts, I just bolt the rack arms to the 
>> cantis with the normal canti bolt. It works for me. You crazy kids with 
>> your “measuring” and your “special bolts!”
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT- 40 hole 145mm rear hub, or wheel with one. + other tandemy things

[Kainalu V.]

Absolutely. The same wheel perfectification specialist is going to build my 
front wheel...
-Kai 
BK NY 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Ed Carolipio]

Bah, none are my size. I wish I was a little bit taller...

--Ed C.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:08:07 PM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Seems if you really want a 56cm Atlantis, you might have some decisions to 
> make (26" vs 650B).
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles
>
> Also some Frank Jones Sr frames
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-frames
>
>
> Ok, I check these things more than I should...
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[BSWP]

I just bought a bunch (and got email confirmation for each individual $10 
store credit). It's an easy call - RBW needs the cash, and they have what 
I'll be needing, down the road. 

While I'm here, let me also just say how GREAT the new MUSA Can-Tuck-It 
shirts are - fit, looks, feel, coolness. The green, especially, has a 
shimmering color quality that shifts as you look at it from different 
angles. I already have two, but need to get a couple more, for the long 
haul. The sizing however, on the website, is all whack... those instruction 
would have had me in a M, where the XL is the right size (I went there in 
person to try on).

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Atlantii and Frank Jones Sr's on the Riv site

[Bob Lovejoy]

Agreed I guess here's to a quick resolution of the cash flow issues and 
good people getting to ride their bikes without worry.  

Grant and company have had a real influence on how I think about bikes, 
riding, enjoying, all of it... and I so value that learning and those 
insights.  Credits are in my cart and maybe a few more things as well.

Bob
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 6:49:51 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> "Seems I remember Grant mentioning he really wanted one so I hope he 
> bought it."
>
> Given their latest cashflow crisis, it is MUCH more likely that Grant had 
> it set aside, and elected to release it to us to help solve the cashflow 
> problem. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[DadDadDaddio]

Just bought some as well. It must be hard to make an ask like this. I was glad 
to help.

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Brian Campbell]

Just bought 5. I hope they make it.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 8:10:35 PM UTC-5, DadDadDaddio wrote:
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> Just bought some as well. It must be hard to make an ask like this. I was 
> glad to help.

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Ed Carolipio]

Picked some up as soon as I read the e-mail. Followed the link and bought 
them like regular gift cards, and now they're ready to get spent - so easy. 
The hard part is resisting the urge to burn them on a fourth Riv order this 
month...

--Ed C.

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>
> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal 
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash 
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am 
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy 
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request. 
>  I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for 
> complete details 
> Chris 
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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[RBW] Re: WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[rw1911]

Lucky you!  Let me know if they find a large one as well.  : )  It's 
nowhere in the budget, I would sure try.


On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 5:57:49 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Well DP said i should call Riv because he heard that they may be doing 
> another run of mtn mixtes. While that news didn't happen to be true, they 
> did tell me that they found one hiding behind some boxes that happens to be 
> my size. So, problem solveduntil i get home and have to explain this to 
> my wife. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Oh go ahead Ed!  You have our permission!

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones Sr build "done"

[Belopsky]

Not a full shot but some details of my bar end plugs/wrapped bars
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ckxrBZk6S41zp84H2

I went and trimmed the MT-10 stem a bit to lower the bars just a tad. It's 
always tricky to cut Nitto stems but the nice thing is that you don't have 
to be perfect with it and it still clamps fine ;)

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[RBW] Re: WTB: roscoe mtn mixte or similar

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Just rode my mountain mixte today. What a great ride. So smooth and everything 
just fits me well

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Scott McLain]

I bought some hail mary planning to purchase one of the blue Riv ball caps 
that are out of stock.  They are also low on a lot of inventory of 
consumables.  Not a good sign.  I have come addicted to their yokozuma 
cable packs. They look great on every bike.  

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 5:38:03 PM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier 
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>
> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal 
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash 
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am 
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy 
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request. 
>  I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for 
> complete details 
> Chris 
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Kenneth Cote]

$200 later


On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:38:03 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier 
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>
> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal 
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash 
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am 
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy 
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request. 
>  I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for 
> complete details 
> Chris 
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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Re: [RBW] Chroming a Rivendell?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Not so sure I’d like the looks of that. I have several unpainted ti bikes but 
chrome is a whole other kettle of fish

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Bob B]

Did it!

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[drew]

I bought a mtn mixte, that they just found, earlier today. I wasn’t intending 
to buy a bike today and I don’t really neeed it and I can’t realy afford 
it, so i was having a bit of buyers remorse. Now I’m happy I did and I can buy 
parts for it now and feel good about it!

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[RBW] Re: Unsafe helmets

[Kenneth Cote]

Good to know. Pursue elsewhere?


On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:57:25 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Before you buy your next helmet you should consider this:
> https://www.bikebiz.com/news/anti-gun-bike-brand-boycott
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Racking

[sameness]

I sent you a PM but I'm about 60/40 with those, so just in case, email me 
at my user name at Gmail dot com, please and thanks?

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:48:07 PM UTC-8, nathan wrote:
>
> This also means I'll have a very nice condition 60cm green Quickbeam for 
> sale. Email me if you're interested.
>

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[RBW] BROOKS PROOFIDE not free

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/161b9e1649d81606

Sign of the times
My first Brooks Saddle came with a small canister of Proofide to treat my 
saddle.
My second Brooks came with Proofide in a little ketchup packet like you get 
at baseball game .
Now it looks like you will have to pay for it when you buy a Brooks saddle 
starting February 28th.
See e-mail from Brooks.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Compass Knickers questions

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

I love my Compass Knickers except I bought them when the pocket openings 
were very small and I have to fish things out of my pocket with my fingers. 
They since have fixed that issue.
I bought two Snoqualmie Pass tires and one arrived with an area across the 
tire that had a bubble or delaminated.
Theo took car of it immediately.
Great customer service.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I noticed the same thing.  A lot are sold out. Was hoping they will restock

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Re: [RBW] Riv request for store credits

[Tim Butterfield]

Did it.  Got tempted by the blue 54 Roadini demo; manage to resist it.
That's another thread, though.

Tim

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Chris Birkenmaier 
wrote:

> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request.
> I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for
> complete details
> Chris
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection
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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm forwarding the email on to a few folks who are not on the mailing list 
but know about the company. Not a chain letter, exactly, but can't hurt.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:38:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier 
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>
> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal 
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash 
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I love this company and am 
> happy to help them out. Goodness knows I always find things I want to buy 
> from them. While I was doing this I also got an email with the request. 
>  I’d encourage you all to read your email or visit their website for 
> complete details 
> Chris 
> Who is getting a Roadini to add to the collection

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Re: [RBW] Chroming a Rivendell?

[Brewster Fong]

Agree, besides the cost, there's the maintenance. Yes, chrome does require 
some upkeep. I recently bought a used Ron Cooper bike with chrome fork. The 
chrome fork probably isn't original, but it had a nice layer of rust on it. 
Using a stainless scrubber, I was able to remove most of the rust without 
damaging the chrome.  But, there's still some pitting that can't be 
removed. 

So yes, you can do it and if you have the money well, it would be 
different!  However, if you're really going to spend the big $$$s on 
chroming a Riv, then you really should have a custom! Of course, YMMV! Good 
Luck!

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:17:44 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> You might find someone who will do it cheaper, but if you’re looking for 
> bicycle-quality chrome plating, it’s not cheap. Here are Joe Bell’s prices, 
> which include $350 to chrome plate a fork and $500 to plate just the rear 
> stays and dropouts: http://www.joebell.net/pdf/JB_form_09-17_v2.pdf 
>
> Custom plating an entire frame would be prohibitively expensive.
>
> --Eric N
> Twitter/Instagram/YouTube: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Lum Gim Fong  > wrote:
>
> Anyone chromed their 'dell upon need for a repaint?
>
> Any downsides to chroming? Is it expensive?
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[RBW] Re: Who's the person on here that makes front rando bags (and others)?

[Peter Adler]

Ruthworks , Loyal Designs 
...

Peter Adler
who's seen both Eli Rodriguez of Ruthworks and Phil Woosley of Loyal in the 
wild in/near
Berkeley, CA/USA

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[RBW] Roadini vs Homer

[Tim Butterfield]

It's a good thing that 54 Roadini demo is blue instead of grilver or I
would probably have it in addition to the Hail Mary.  Thankfully, I don't
need another blue as I already have my Homer.  I don't really have room for
another bike in my RV either.  But, if it were grilver, I might have to
find a way; good thing it's not.

I really should not be having this conversation, but thinking of this has
me wondering something.  My Homer is decked out with dyno, lights, fenders,
and racks.  With a stripped Roadini, how much different might that be in
the riding/handling department given my current 220+ pound weight?

Thanks.

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Michael Morrissey]

What will the catalog look like? Rivendell should skip the catalog and go 
straight to a Taschen-style coffee table book. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Richard Rios]

Got mine hope it helps. Been a Riv fan and supporter for some time. Noticed 
they have a 53, 55, and 57 senior Frank Jones on web special might be a good 
time to grab one. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Ed Fausto]

More than happy to support this company who made riding bikes a joy!
Ed Fausto

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Richard Rios 
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> Got mine hope it helps. Been a Riv fan and supporter for some time.
> Noticed they have a 53, 55, and 57 senior Frank Jones on web special might
> be a good time to grab one.
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[RBW] Re: Roadini vs Homer

[Brian Campbell]

I think the lighter bike feels different enough to warrant having it. I 
bought a used Riv Custom off the this list as a partner to my fendered and 
dyno equipped Homer. There is a bout a 7lb difference between them, so not 
really a huge difference but the Custom gives a different feel when riding 
and I notice it most when climbing hills. More lively. Not scientific but 
variety keeps riding interesting.




 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 9:17:28 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> It's a good thing that 54 Roadini demo is blue instead of grilver or I 
> would probably have it in addition to the Hail Mary.  Thankfully, I don't 
> need another blue as I already have my Homer.  I don't really have room for 
> another bike in my RV either.  But, if it were grilver, I might have to 
> find a way; good thing it's not. 
>
> I really should not be having this conversation, but thinking of this has 
> me wondering something.  My Homer is decked out with dyno, lights, fenders, 
> and racks.  With a stripped Roadini, how much different might that be in 
> the riding/handling department given my current 220+ pound weight?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Birdman]

Bought the creditand a bunch of other stuff.  More than happy to help 
my favorite company.

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[RBW] Chroming a Rivendell?

[Michael Morrissey]

My understanding is chrome is old school and very environmentally hazardous. 
You can powder coat bikes now to look chrome. Do that. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadini vs Homer

[Deacon Patrick]

Great excuse, but mininimal practicable difference for a non-racer is my guess 
based on experience with my similar yet wider apart hunqa v QB. If you need an 
excuse, you have it! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Chroming a Rivendell?

[Ian A]

I read one of Tony Oliver's books, mostly about touring bikes if I recall. 
I do recall that he was against chrome on a bicycle, the reasoning that it 
actually weakened the metal as well as adding unnecessary cost.

I'm going from memory, so I may have misremembered the reasoning against 
chrome, but he was definitely against chrome.

I've always liked chrome chainstays and fork tips from an aesthetic 
perspective on vintage bikes though.

IanA (Say no to chrome!)

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> My understanding is chrome is old school and very environmentally 
> hazardous. You can powder coat bikes now to look chrome. Do that. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Lum Gim Fong]

"...have created a threat we might not be able to ride out..."

I hope that don't mean what I think it means.


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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Wayne Naha]

Welp, I just bought a couple.  They said that all they needed was for a 
third of 15,000 people to buy one $10 credit.  They are off to a good start 
here, so I am completely optimistic that Riv can ride out the storm.  This 
kind of thing builds character, don't you know.

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[Leslie]

I'm in.  

I'd just ordered some parts the other day, are still enroute; there were a 
few things they didn't have in stock, I had to order from elsewhere.  But 
I'm suddenly wishing I'd been able to have been patient and waited until 
they restocked and bought from them instead of elsewhere.  

I need to revisit, see if there's anything else I need to have sent my way 
now, even if I don't need it yet, I can just sit on it until I do

-L
  

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