[RBW] WTB: Sugino XD2 double crank

[Doug Bloch]

Hello,

I'm looking to buy the wide/low double crank with the chain guard. Please PM me 
off list.

Thanks,

Doug
Alameda CA

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[RBW] Re: FS '97 Longlow 61cm

[Fullylugged]

Owner has dropped price.  Email him directly to negotiate a great deal.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer front brakes with fenders

[ascpgh]

> *Just to clarify for those of you that have a Pauls front brake with a 
> recessed bolt. The bolt threads through the front of the brake and there is 
> a recessed nut that seats into the back of the bikes fork?*


Yes. The bolt head on mine came fitted (snugged?) into the face of the 
cross bridge supporting both pivots and arms, the threaded shaft projecting 
rearward with enough length to extend almost through the fork crown. I 
never disassembled it to see if it is threaded through that plate or press 
fit. 

The long sleeve, small head nut going in from the back of the crown, a 
recess there permitting the head to seat fully below the surface, viewed 
from the side (use of the fender nut changes that). My picture has the 
fender nut still in place of the recessed nut. I was happier to use a 
daruma and have the mounting point supporting the fender farther forward. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:34:25 PM UTC-4, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>
> Yes I bought them new and no they aren't missing parts. I agree the bolt 
> does look different from the one in the Pauls product photo. I didn't 
> purchase the brakes from Pauls directly it makes more since shipping wise 
> to purchase a bit closer to home. 
>
> Just to clarify for those of you that have a Pauls front brake with a 
> recessed bolt. The bolt threads through the front of the brake and there is 
> a recessed nut that seats into the back of the bikes fork?
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:18:01 PM UTC-4, EasyRider wrote:
>>
>> OK, now I see your predicament. I agree with Nash. The bolt in your 
>> pictures doesn't look the one in the product photos on the Paul Components 
>> website. If you bought the brakes new and that bolt came in the package, 
>> well I'm stumped. But if you bought the brake used or with missing pieces, 
>> I would email Paul and ask what length button head hex bolt to get from the 
>> hardware store. I'd take the brake and the problem solver nut to ensure I 
>> got the right threading and that the head of the bolt didn't protrude and 
>> interfere with the movement of the brake arms. Or, just ask Paul to buy the 
>> part (I don't see the replacements for the recessed version on the website, 
>> just the ones for converting recessed to non-recessed.) Good luck. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 7:03:30 PM UTC-4, Nash Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like these have been taken apart and not put back together right. 
>>>  And may be missing hardware.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

[Patrick Moore]

Bill -- don't take my style of writing to seriously; I don't. "Irony" is a
term very familiar to me.

I simply meant that you won't be able to discover much of an "objective"
reason for liking "honking"; it's just fun for some people, and fun is
obviously as subjective as they come. There is of course individual
biomechanical and metabolic idiosyncrasy, which may add a bit of
objectivity to such a preference; even when I cruised on the flats in a 64"
gear at 110 rpm at 20-21, I still didn't shift down much when I climbed.

But back to fun: for me, it's part of the fixed riding experience package,
and I love it.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Patrick Moore said "it's a futile attempt ".
>
> I'm not sure I follow what "it" is.  The only thing I was attempting was
> to point out that fit and body position has a lot to do with how well your
> body can put power into the bike. Specifically I assert that IF Patrick
> Moore gave me his "most fun" fixie and IF I swapped out his cockpit for a
> dirt drop stem and Albatross bars, that THEN Patrick Moore would deem that
> bike "less fun" to honk up a hill. That was my only attempt.  Was that a
> futile attempt?  Did I fail to make that point?
>
> I was sincere when I said Patrick Moore is eloquent and prolific.
> I was sincere when I said that it is cool that riders like riding fixed.
>
> I love self-discipline, like making yourself ride and record having ridden
> 200 miles on ten bikes.  I'm into it.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, Ca.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer front brakes with fenders

[A CT Cyclist]

Thanks for the info. It seems that I have an incorrect bolt that works
until you want to use a Sheldon Fender nut. It makes me wonder if the
brakes had been returned and resold
 I can't remember where I purchased them. I've used a diorama before but
with slightly bigger tires the clearances are tighter and I'm not
comfortable with the nut from the durama sticking out on the inside of the
fender. When I bought the Honjos I purchased a special bracket to hang from
the brake bolt. I can put this bracket anywhere since I have to drill all
the holes, which will allow me to place the fender as far forward as I
want. I could just hang it off the front of the fork and be down with it
but I do have a front rack attached there as well.


On Sep 9, 2017 11:19 AM, "ascpgh"  wrote:

>
> *Just to clarify for those of you that have a Pauls front brake with a
>> recessed bolt. The bolt threads through the front of the brake and there is
>> a recessed nut that seats into the back of the bikes fork?*
>
>
> Yes. The bolt head on mine came fitted (snugged?) into the face of the
> cross bridge supporting both pivots and arms, the threaded shaft projecting
> rearward with enough length to extend almost through the fork crown. I
> never disassembled it to see if it is threaded through that plate or press
> fit.
>
> The long sleeve, small head nut going in from the back of the crown, a
> recess there permitting the head to seat fully below the surface, viewed
> from the side (use of the fender nut changes that). My picture has the
> fender nut still in place of the recessed nut. I was happier to use a
> daruma and have the mounting point supporting the fender farther forward.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:34:25 PM UTC-4, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>>
>> Yes I bought them new and no they aren't missing parts. I agree the bolt
>> does look different from the one in the Pauls product photo. I didn't
>> purchase the brakes from Pauls directly it makes more since shipping wise
>> to purchase a bit closer to home.
>>
>> Just to clarify for those of you that have a Pauls front brake with a
>> recessed bolt. The bolt threads through the front of the brake and there is
>> a recessed nut that seats into the back of the bikes fork?
>>
>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:18:01 PM UTC-4, EasyRider wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, now I see your predicament. I agree with Nash. The bolt in your
>>> pictures doesn't look the one in the product photos on the Paul Components
>>> website. If you bought the brakes new and that bolt came in the package,
>>> well I'm stumped. But if you bought the brake used or with missing pieces,
>>> I would email Paul and ask what length button head hex bolt to get from the
>>> hardware store. I'd take the brake and the problem solver nut to ensure I
>>> got the right threading and that the head of the bolt didn't protrude and
>>> interfere with the movement of the brake arms. Or, just ask Paul to buy the
>>> part (I don't see the replacements for the recessed version on the website,
>>> just the ones for converting recessed to non-recessed.) Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 7:03:30 PM UTC-4, Nash Taylor wrote:

 Looks like these have been taken apart and not put back together
 right.  And may be missing hardware.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

[Paul Clifton]

Thanks for the thoughtful response Bill. This discussion is helping me 
think things through.

I think what I've been trying to say is that this bike, as I built it, is 
damn great. I'm having lots of fun riding it all over the place, fast and 
slow.

But the build/position doesn't let me put power in to the bike in the way 
that I usually like to. And the thing that makes me most aware of that is 
that standing to climb feels awkward and isn't effective.

Since it's so great as is, I'm not fretting about changing things. I'll 
update the build as the opportunity presents itself, and I'm looking 
forward to experiencing the ride when I nail the position that I'm 
imagining (especially, given your description of your ride with your set 
up).

I've definitely zoned out on long climbs, but the honking I prefer is that 
last push up to the crest of a moderate hill, when momentum got me most of 
the way, and few powerful strokes from a standing position will keep me 
going. Or on some single track, when a short steep section comes up out of 
nowhere, and I can just stand up and make it over. Maybe that's not really 
honking.

I don't usually grind all the way up a hill, but I do on occasion. I 
usually enjoy it when I do it, but I doubt I can help with an objective 
definition of "fun". I'm definitely more interested in subjective pleasure, 
and wasted energy has never bothered me very much.

I wonder if I can tie my subjective pleasure to any objective measurements. 
I doubt it, since I enjoy so many different things at different times. It 
could be a fun thing to try and narrow down though ...

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:22:47 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 9:25:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>> Thanks y'all.
>>
>> Bill, how does yours climb? I suspect it feels a lot different with the 
>> saddle much higher and drops. But that puts you even farther back over the 
>> back wheel, so I'm curious whether yours encourages taking it easy uphills 
>> also.
>>
>>
>> My Bubbe mountain climbs extremely well.  As you report, climbing is 
> mainly about the motor, and drop bars put the motor in a position to be 
> powerful and efficient.  So, I agree with you that you have put yourself in 
> a position that is too upright for power and efficiency and you are 
> experiencing that fact.  I'm also running SPD pedals on mine, and during 
> steep dirt-climbs, being able to pull up on the pedals is helpful.  I'm 
> trying to tease out the objective meaning of the word "fun" when you and 
> Patrick Moore talk about 'honking'.  You both say that 'honking' is fun 
> and/or that you enjoy 'honking'.  The webpage that Patrick Moore shared, 
> defining the term 'honking' makes it very clear that honking is both 
> less-efficient and slower, so I think you both are just talking about 
> subjective pleasure of climbing out of the saddle and mashing a high gear, 
> and you don't care that you are 'wasting' energy.  That's cool (for you).  
> I personally don't find a bunch of enjoyment in mashing too high a gear, 
> riding more slowly and less efficiently, but that's just me.  Patrick Moore 
> describes eloquently and prolifically about the meditative zen-state he 
> achieves slowly mashing up a hill in a gear that others would consider 
> too-high.  It's not about speed, it's about something more 'mystical', I 
> suppose, but it's definitely subjective.  When somebody asks me if my bike 
> "climbs well", I think of objective measurements, like speed.  If I pin it 
> on a single track climb, my Bubbe mountain is just a few seconds per mile 
> slower than my contemporary mountain bike (according to Strava).  At the 
> top of one particular such climb (Meadows Canyon in the Berkeley hills), 
> there is a short rocky and rooted pitch that right on the edge of the kind 
> of thing I can "clean" (get through it without putting a foot down).  If 
> there are no hikers on that pitch I always take a run at it, and I clean it 
> maybe a little more than half the time.  I clean it more like 80% of the 
> time with drop bars, and more like 30% of the time with flat/upright bars 
> of any kind.  I cleaned it first-try on my Bubbe mountain.  By those 
> semi-objective metrics I'd say my Bubbe mountain climbs extremely well, and 
> I would attribute that in large part to the fact that I set it up to do 
> that.  I suppose some people would say that the bike is encouraging me to 
> ride strong, but I think of it as my riding position encouraging me.  If I 
> swapped cockpits with you, and had a high-rise stem plus an albatross bar 
> on the same bike, I'm certain it would not climb as well.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

[Paul Clifton]

Deacon Patrick, I really like this description of rides, parts, and 
experiences. I enjoy riding the same routes on different bikes with 
different builds. I notice new things about the bikes, about the routes, 
and about myself. I hope the smoke doesn't get so bad that you have to stay 
off the trails.

I'd love to try the albastaches. It's good to know the hooks give a 
decently aggressive grip. I'd have to find road-style v-brake levers or put 
on some cantis to run them though, so I'll probably start with something 
else and see where that gets me.

Paul in ATL

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:38:50 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I'm jumping in, God help me, so anyone on the fence about my sanity, you 
> can decidedly get off now. Honking is what the guy in the wee pock marked 
> near half-century Toyota pick-em-up unnecessarily did as he tried to 
> motivate his squirrels to rev enough juice to pass me up hill. Fortunately 
> his horn was as effective as his engine and it barely gave a whiff of a 
> grandma toot as it inched its way past and I had my ear plugs in, else I'd 
> be sprawled still in the drainage at the side of the road. I know "honking" 
> from nothin save Bill's email. Interestingly, I have, however, been having 
> a lot of fun playing with different gears and climbing and noticing effects 
> on me and speed and traction and efficiency. Bullet points. Big honking 
> bullet points.
>
> - Rides under 20 miles are enhanced for me by shifting less, breathing 
> more, and making fewer crank rotations. Why? Fun. Even more so the 
> Quickbeam, but still the Hunqapillar.
> - Rides longer 50 miles are enhanced for me by seeking efficiency through 
> gearing, though I'm dim and stupid enough to enjoy the challenge of the 
> Quickbeam for them.
> - Rides through the smoke of the western states on fire are only possible 
> by shifting down 2-3 gears and taking it real easy. Whistle while you work 
> easy. Kinda fun in it's own way. I keep telling myself. Go too fast and too 
> much smoke filters through me sinus billows and clogs them up and the 
> bludgeoned brain does not like that. At all.
> - Single track climbs with plush tires and low gearing are a hoot. Tires 
> grip, feet spin, I glide up the hill.
> - Single track climbs with plush, lugged tires and higher gearing are a 
> hoot. Tires grip gravel and help me not quite lose momentum attempting to 
> spill out in that gap between pedal strokes. Can't make it up stuff I make 
> up with plush tires and low gearing. That's what LCG's for.
> - Single track climbs with plush Compass tires and higher gearing are a 
> hoot, but I spin out on looser/steeper climbs much sooner and have more 
> LCG. More meaning a hundred yards over 20 miles. Infinitesimally 
> insignificant.
> - There is something amazing about climbing a mountain pass for 10+ miles 
> on a single speed that requires the dance. Perhaps it's the lack of oxygen 
> to the brain, but wow. It really is a pray of active contemplation of a 
> flavor deliciously different from any other I've ever prayed. Yes, I'm 
> faster, less efficient, more tired. Who cares? Me. Because ... wow. There 
> is more to riding than efficiency, and riding single speed for several 
> years now has helped me discover at least some of it.
>
> Paul, if you get a chance to test the New Moustache bars (AKA Albastache, 
> but while I appreciated the name for understanding the bar's origins, 
> Moustache is the moniker of men, which I aspire to perhaps one day be. So 
> New Moustache it is, for me) you may well love them. Brilliant climbers, 
> with the upright a bit more aggressive than the Albatross and the curves a 
> lot more aggressive, but not too aggressive. I climb single track in the 
> curves, and paved and dirt in either. Brakes right where I want them -- in 
> the curves. Brilliant for jouncy, technical descents and delightfully 
> smooth for fast rail riding curvy road descents. Feels great for LCG too! A 
> brilliant mountain bar for a bike that travels all roads and trails.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 8:22:47 AM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> My Bubbe mountain climbs extremely well. I'm trying to tease out the 
>> objective meaning of the word "fun" when you and Patrick Moore talk about 
>> 'honking'.  You both say that 'honking' is fun and/or that you enjoy 
>> 'honking'.  
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Swift Industries x Ocean Air Docena Camo and Haulin Colin front porteur rack

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Items for a project that went belly up. Sold separately or package deal.

Swift Industries x Ocean Air Cycles Docena. Camo flavor. Used 2-3 times. As 
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Haulin Colin porteur rack. Made for the Elephant NFE, but could fit your 
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Raw steel. Paint it to match your ride, clear coat it, oil it, or just 
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Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

[Paul Clifton]

Patrick - sorry for the obscenely long post. I guess I have a lot to say 
about biking in Atlanta, and some context helps.

Is the "G" name Grant? If so, there's a mansion in the Grant Park 
neighborhood, which is where I grew up, that might be the one you're 
remembering. Grant was a big deal around here: 
http://www.atlantapreservationcenter.com/grant_mansion

Avery street is in a really nice spot in Decatur. I'll keep an eye out for 
the church you mentioned if I'm over there. The city of Decatur has turned 
into a real gem. It's got a walkable downtown with a bunch of great 
restaurants and bars, really good services, good schools (for Atlanta), etc.

Here's a map of some of the spots I mentioned:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cxciqwXmLa-cEdHB-GtDeP2DwAg&usp=sharing

Here's a map of the beltline. I'm down on the SW side of this loop: 
https://beltline.org/about/the-atlanta-beltline-project/atlanta-beltline-overview/

-

Over the last 15 or so years, there have been more and more cyclists in 
Atlanta, and infrastructure and driver awareness has increased at about the 
same pace. So these days, riding around is OK. It seems to be a very 
intimidating place to be a beginner cyclist though. The infrastructure is 
sufficient for someone who knows the roads and is confident on a bike. 
There's also a lot more people moving in to the urban parts of Atlanta, 
which means cycling makes sense for a larger group of people, so there's 
been increasing demand on the government to support it.

The Beltline is a big, long-term infrastructure project that sort of 
responds to that pressure. The first phase is converting an 22 mile loop of 
old rail bed around the city to bike/ped path. For reference, it's about 4 
miles diameter east to west, and 7 miles diameter north to south.

Eventually, they plan to run light rail along it. Right now, it's a nice 
sidewalk that connects several fun/interesting/useful parts of town. It's 
also driving a real-estate bubble anywhere that's within 3 miles or so of 
its path. That's creating a host of problems around affordable housing and 
stuff that I won't really go in to. The house I rent, that I'm being priced 
out of, happens to be one block from the southwest side of the beltline 
trail, which they've been paving over the last year or so.

So, I love riding bikes and am confident in my bike handling skills, and I 
live close to the places I like to go, and I know the roads very well, so 
biking in Atlanta, for me, is pretty great and getting better.

Drivers are getting better at dealing with bikes on the road as well. 
They're not great, but most of them will slow down and pass when it's safe. 
Especially if you take the lane. Some of them might get pissy about it, but 
there's nothing I can do about people's bad attitudes. Well, I try not to 
make them any worse, at least.

There are some fantastic roads in Atlanta. All the creeks and rivers make 
for great hills. There are tons of different neighborhoods with their own 
characters. There are hidden parks and cemetaries and old dirt roads and 
mountain bike trails and on and on, all within a short ride from midtown. 
There are state parks with camping and beautiful country roads within 20 
miles, so it's an all day affair to go out, ramble around, and get back, 
but it's really easy to drive a bike out of the city and have a really 
lovely ride.

On the other hand, Doraville is a 10 mile drive from Emory along mostly 
gridlocked interstate, and 4 to 6 lane roads with 45 mph flow of traffic 
and lots of poorly timed traffic signals. Rich might have a different 
opinion than I do, but around Emory can be a very scary place for a cyclist 
at rush hour, or any time, even with the wide and well maintained bike 
lanes.

I-285, our interstate bypass loop, roughly deliniates the shift from 
connected neighborhoods to cul-de-sac subdivisions. It's 15 miles diameter 
east-west and 20 miles diameter north-south. It's reasonably easy to bike 
pretty much anywhere inside 285 (there are some major exceptions to that 
though)

Outside 285 (and this is speaking in very broad terms because there are 
some wonderful places to live and bike outside 285) ... outside 285 turns 
into larger highways, strip malls, long distances between places, high 
speed limits, drivers who don't want to see bikes on the road, and no 
cut-throughs because of all the cul-de-sacs. Lots of people live more than 
20 miles outside of 285 and car-commute in to the city every day.

So biking in Atlanta is great, but biking in the sprawl can be bad - like 
anywhere else I guess. It's gotten so much better over the last few years 
though. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with some well-planned bike 
commuter highways in the next 10 years. There's already some partially 
useful ones along GA-400, and there's a rail trail that runs from NW 
Atlanta almost to Birmingham. You should come ride here sometime.

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[RBW] Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

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[RBW] Latex 650b Tubes

[Call Me Jay]

After swearing them off--and a rash of leaky butyl tubes--I'm giving latex 
another try.  700c are tough enough to come by.  I can't find any 650b options. 
 Do they exist?

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Re: [RBW] Latex 650b Tubes

[Steve Palincsar]

On 09/09/2017 07:11 PM, Call Me Jay wrote:

After swearing them off--and a rash of leaky butyl tubes--I'm giving latex 
another try.  700c are tough enough to come by.  I can't find any 650b options. 
 Do they exist?



I found a Vittoria 559 latex tube that might fit -- or might be too wide.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/371773652370?chn=ps&dispItem=1


 Vittoria MTB Latex 26 x 1.7/2.3" Presta Tube RVC 36mm

Vittoria MTB Latex 26 x 1.7/2.3" Presta Tube RVC 36mm

Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
United States of America

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Re: [RBW] Latex 650b Tubes

[Call Me Jay]

I saw those, too.  Might be the best option if 650b is unavailable.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer front brakes with fenders

[Philip Williamson]

I'd hang the bracket off the front. Darumas are more trouble than they're worth 
with fat tires.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] First generation Rosco Bubbe Mixte for sale (bump, new pictures)

[Orc]

I've got a never-used-as-anything-except-a-fitting-template first 
generation Rosco Bubbe mixte taking up space in my bike mess that I'd love 
to pass on.I comped it when I smudged the fork while building a rack 
for it (I was able to buff the smudge out so it's not noticeable) but it's 
not my size.


What I'm selling is the frame, the fork, the headset, an ancient kalloy 
stem (used, circa 1989), a shimano BB (used; un26, I think?), a 600ex 
crankset (used; 6206, but fitted as a compact double), seatpost, a Brooks 
Flyer (used & broken in), and a custom 10x8 front rack as shown.


Does $1100 + shipping seem like a good price?






-david parsons

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[RBW] Re: First generation Rosco Bubbe Mixte for sale (bump, new pictures)

[Orc]

Aaand I forgot the dimensions:

Effective TT: 590mm
ST:540mm
crank length: 175mm.

-david parsons

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Re: [RBW] Latex 650b Tubes

[René Sterental]

I tried latex tubes on my Homer. Loved the feel, hated the fact I had to
pump the tires up every day, as compared to once a week with the thin
Schwalbe tubes. Then I got a flat... didn't know how to fix it quickly...
that was it, back to the ultra-light Schwalbe tubes.

René

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Call Me Jay  wrote:

> I saw those, too.  Might be the best option if 650b is unavailable.
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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa

[Gossamer]

it is the small trunk sack. It's great for phones, wallets, etc.


On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 8:33:34 PM UTC-5, David Person wrote:
>
> Can I ask what bag that is on the front rack?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: First generation Rosco Bubbe Mixte for sale (bump, new pictures)

[Kellie]

size of frame?

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 5:26:37 PM UTC-7, Orc wrote:
>
> I've got a never-used-as-anything-except-a-fitting-template first 
> generation Rosco Bubbe mixte taking up space in my bike mess that I'd love 
> to pass on.I comped it when I smudged the fork while building a rack 
> for it (I was able to buff the smudge out so it's not noticeable) but it's 
> not my size.
>
>
> What I'm selling is the frame, the fork, the headset, an ancient kalloy 
> stem (used, circa 1989), a shimano BB (used; un26, I think?), a 600ex 
> crankset (used; 6206, but fitted as a compact double), seatpost, a Brooks 
> Flyer (used & broken in), and a custom 10x8 front rack as shown.
>
>
> Does $1100 + shipping seem like a good price?
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> -david parsons
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I like MTBubbe, but this build's not quite there yet.

[Patrick Moore]

Paul: thanks; I actually liked the detail. It has been years -- 28 or 29,
come to think of it! -- since I was last in Atlanta, and I'm glad to hear
that the cycling infrastructure is better and that more cyclists are out on
the roads. I don't recall ever seeing a cyclist on the road throughout the
'60s, '70s, and '80s, though I do recall a bike shop with a huge bike
sculpture made from pipe atop its sign.

My sister makes the 10 mile drive between Doraville and Emory sound
intolerable; easy in the morning since she goes in late (she works ~30
hours as a reference librarian), but 60-75 minutes in the evening.

The house with a family connection is the Jeremiah Gilbert house; a
farmhouse, not an antebellum mansion, so less prominent than the Grant
house.

https://www.atlantaga.gov/government/departments/planning-community-development/office-of-zoning-development/urban-design-commission/jeremiah-s-gilbert-house

I recall visiting with my father (his paternal grandfather married a
Gilbert in a second marriage) in the mid '60s, when the remaining Gilbert
children were still living there together; a truly Flannery O'Connor-esque
situation, with a bunch of ancients creaking about the house, Hattie
upstairs bedridden for 20 years, and hugely fat Aunt Gus boasting that she
hadn't been out of doors for 13 years; and all sitting down 3 times a day
to full, hot meals with fresh biscuits and honey in between courses. The
original kitchen, doubtless updated, and separated from the house by a
covered but otherwise open walkway, was still in use; I played with the
black cook's son. Truly leftover from another era.

I must go back and visit one day.

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Patrick - sorry for the obscenely long post. I guess I have a lot to say
> about biking in Atlanta, and some context helps.
>
> Is the "G" name Grant? If so, there's a mansion in the Grant Park
> neighborhood, which is where I grew up, that might be the one you're
> remembering. Grant was a big deal around here: http://www.
> atlantapreservationcenter.com/grant_mansion
>
> Avery street is in a really nice spot in Decatur. I'll keep an eye out for
> the church you mentioned if I'm over there. The city of Decatur has turned
> into a real gem. It's got a walkable downtown with a bunch of great
> restaurants and bars, really good services, good schools (for Atlanta), etc.
>
> Here's a map of some of the spots I mentioned:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cxciqwXmLa-cEdHB-GtDeP2DwAg&usp=sharing
>
> Here's a map of the beltline. I'm down on the SW side of this loop:
> https://beltline.org/about/the-atlanta-beltline-project/
> atlanta-beltline-overview/
>
> -
>
> Over the last 15 or so years, there have been more and more cyclists in
> Atlanta, and infrastructure and driver awareness has increased at about the
> same pace. So these days, riding around is OK. It seems to be a very
> intimidating place to be a beginner cyclist though. The infrastructure is
> sufficient for someone who knows the roads and is confident on a bike.
> There's also a lot more people moving in to the urban parts of Atlanta,
> which means cycling makes sense for a larger group of people, so there's
> been increasing demand on the government to support it.
>
> The Beltline is a big, long-term infrastructure project that sort of
> responds to that pressure. The first phase is converting an 22 mile loop of
> old rail bed around the city to bike/ped path. For reference, it's about 4
> miles diameter east to west, and 7 miles diameter north to south.
>
> Eventually, they plan to run light rail along it. Right now, it's a nice
> sidewalk that connects several fun/interesting/useful parts of town. It's
> also driving a real-estate bubble anywhere that's within 3 miles or so of
> its path. That's creating a host of problems around affordable housing and
> stuff that I won't really go in to. The house I rent, that I'm being priced
> out of, happens to be one block from the southwest side of the beltline
> trail, which they've been paving over the last year or so.
>
> So, I love riding bikes and am confident in my bike handling skills, and I
> live close to the places I like to go, and I know the roads very well, so
> biking in Atlanta, for me, is pretty great and getting better.
>
> Drivers are getting better at dealing with bikes on the road as well.
> They're not great, but most of them will slow down and pass when it's safe.
> Especially if you take the lane. Some of them might get pissy about it, but
> there's nothing I can do about people's bad attitudes. Well, I try not to
> make them any worse, at least.
>
> There are some fantastic roads in Atlanta. All the creeks and rivers make
> for great hills. There are tons of different neighborhoods with their own
> characters. There are hidden parks and cemetaries and old dirt roads and
> mountain bike trails and on and on, all within a short ride from midtown.
> There are state parks with camping an

Re: [RBW] Latex 650b Tubes

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

I've used similarly sized Michelin latex tubes with Hetres and Parimotos 
successfully. They may be slightly tight circumference-wise, but inflating the 
tube slightly during installation will take care of that.

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