Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

2016-05-01 Thread Garth
Rene,  the answer if literally, it can  vary  , sometimes alot !  Even with 
mfr. "recommendations".  For example the Sugino XD I run a Tange 107mm bb on 
one bike and on another I have a 110mm but could also use the 113mm.  When I 
bought a TA Carmina triple once I askeď Bilenky even before I bought it what 
size I may need for a bowed stay Rivendell frame.  The 116mm was spot on, even 
though I had read others saying I'd need it longer.  It could help to have some 
different sized cartiridges on hand , either new or old worn out ones if you 
are really unsure and want to know for sure. Ring size also can play a large 
part along with the shape of the stays in the best bb length for a particular 
frame. Always ask the retailer if applicable and do search the internet as 
someone has likely asked he same question.

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[RBW] FS: Dinotte Headlight

2016-05-01 Thread Fullylugged
Sent you an email on this Eric.

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[RBW] FS Shimano Downtube Cable Bosses

2016-05-01 Thread John
I've got a pair of Shimano downtime cable bosses from when I used to run 
bar-end shifters on my Ram.  They're in great shape, gray plastic barrel 
adjusters and silver metal.  If anybody needs these, send me an email 
off-group or a private message with a fair offer and I'll get them in the 
mail to you.  I've got a picture to send if you're interested.

John

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[RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

2016-05-01 Thread Andy Williams
Be here now.  You can be somewhere else later when that is now.

Andy

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:21:44 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Yep .  . . . I was thinking about Grandma . . . sitting on the porch . 
> .  .and me out for a ride.  No matter where I go . .  . .still as ever she 
> is ever at ease just enjoying the moment.  Every time I'm out riding and 
> the idea pops up to go a little faster, a little harder up this hill , 
> basically "improve where and what I am" . .  .. . I see my Grandma  saying 
> "what are you trying to improve?"  Of course . . . Me , I answer , my ride 
> .  "Oh .  . ..  improve it compared to when and what ?" she asks .  How I'm 
> riding of course, now !  "You are riding right now, are you not ? and since 
> you're riding right now, you don't need to go any faster because now isn't 
> going any where, now is always just where you are and as you are. Now isn't 
> fast and now isn't slow . . . it's always just rightly now . It's not what 
> was and will never be what will be.  No one change it and no one can speed 
> it up, it just kinda is this way." she says . .  . .  Huh .  . . . .   and 
> I have no counter to this .  . . . for she is telling the truth and she 
> knows nothing of a lie.  
>
>Silly Me ! !So it all just goes away to where it never was . . . 
> somewhere else but certainly not now !   And I just go about my merry way 
> .  . . .riding along and smelling the roses :)  
>
>
>Of course, likewise some-times I think Grandma isn't here , that she 
> left some-time long ago never to be seen again.  Yet in my heart I know and 
> hear . .  .it's always now and there's nowhere else to go or be, nothing 
> else to do or say. , She's right where she has always been and will always 
> be . My heart you see .  
>
>
>   That's all , thank you for reading. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

2016-05-01 Thread WETH
Joe, Patrick, Ron, Drew,
Thanks for the help; I appreciate the helpful photos and links.  Once the bike 
is complete, he and  I will combine a few rides with fishing to help determine 
his preferences. 
I will update this thread with what we decide.
Thanks so much for your help!
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-01 Thread Lungimsam
BQ says that lots of rim wells are too deep, resulting in the tire bead not 
being able to ride up the sidewall of the rim and sit in place at the clincher 
part.

It is reported that a slipperier rim tape like stans helps, too, so the bead 
doesnt get hung up in son a grippier more frictiony tape like velox.

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[RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
If we always meet tomorrow we never meet today! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 8:15:12 AM UTC-6, Andy Williams wrote:
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> Be here now.  You can be somewhere else later when that is now.
>
> Andy
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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

2016-05-01 Thread René Sterental
Thanks guys!

That's what I was looking for! I'm waiting for my custom and am doing
mental exercises to prepare for its build.

René

On Sunday, May 1, 2016, Garth  wrote:

> Rene,  the answer if literally, it can  vary  , sometimes alot !  Even
> with mfr. "recommendations".  For example the Sugino XD I run a Tange 107mm
> bb on one bike and on another I have a 110mm but could also use the 113mm.
> When I bought a TA Carmina triple once I askeď Bilenky even before I bought
> it what size I may need for a bowed stay Rivendell frame.  The 116mm was
> spot on, even though I had read others saying I'd need it longer.  It could
> help to have some different sized cartiridges on hand , either new or old
> worn out ones if you are really unsure and want to know for sure. Ring size
> also can play a large part along with the shape of the stays in the best bb
> length for a particular frame. Always ask the retailer if applicable and do
> search the internet as someone has likely asked he same question.
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[RBW] May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick Jones
A bit of everything except dry and warm! Grin.
https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/

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[RBW] May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread WETH
Br. But you embraced it.  Your photos are great as always.
How do you like TheGrid?
Erl

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[RBW] Re: EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

2016-05-01 Thread Dave Johnston


Technically that size MB was for a 5'10 - 6' man, but I bet you can make it 
work with the right stem and bar combo. I cityfied my old MB3 for my 
girlfriend, with albatross bars, and I had to go with an even shorter and 
higher stem than the one pictured below. 

The front end geo of the MB-3 is pretty squirreley compared to say an 
Atlantis or other riv bikes, but one can get used to anything if you ride 
enough and don't ride anything else. I personally used this bike for all 
kinds of mountain biking back in the 90s and some fully loaded touring.


-Dave J





On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 6:30:53 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Dammit: It's a *MB-3*. 
>
> And, funny, it fits Catie fine, though she wants a higher stem, which I 
> have, but the seat tube is actually a bit longer than that of the Race Lite 
> -- 20.5 versus 19 -- and it has the same 23 cm top tube.
>
> Hmmm. I'll have to install the RL wheels and see how much it raises the 
> bb. With the 1.5s, the bb is 10 1/2" high versus the 12 of the RL with 56s.
>
> More to come (you may be sure of that!)
>
> Dyslexic Dad, who just road the Riv in ABQ, NM
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Again, thanks for all the suggestions and offers. This morning, a bit of 
>> serendipity: someone was selling a CB3 at Stevie's, obviously upgraded with 
>> old DX drivetrain and Sun Mistral/Mavic 7 sp freewheel wheelset. complete 
>> with full fenders and Blackburn rear rack: $220. 
>>
>> I think -- subject to change -- I'll transfer over the wheelset and 
>> brake/shift levers from the Race Lite and sell the remainders from both 
>> bikes.
>>
>> Anyway, pretty good deal.
>>
>> The other bit of serendipity was finding a lightly used lower end but 
>> still made in USA Martin, with very good case, for Catie at $429.
>>
>> Build report and photos forthcoming. Catie, needless to say, is much more 
>> interested in the guitar than in the bike, but I think she'll like the 
>> tubeless Maxxis Ikons.
>>
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>> *
>> ***
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: [RBW] May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread René Sterental
Admirable!!!

On Sunday, May 1, 2016, WETH  wrote:

> Br. But you embraced it.  Your photos are great as always.
> How do you like TheGrid?
> Erl
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

2016-05-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Catie has long legs, and I think an Albatross with an upjutter stem will
make it work well. She test rode it yesterday, and felt and looked
comfortable except for the very long and low Ritchey stem, and I was very
surprised when I measured it -- we'll see. It's nice enough that I'm almost
tempted to keep it for myself, but I'm sure I will have no trouble selling
it if it should come to that.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:

> Technically that size MB was for a 5'10 - 6' man, but I bet you can make
> it work with the right stem and bar combo. I cityfied my old MB3 for my
> girlfriend, with albatross bars, and I had to go with an even shorter and
> higher stem than the one pictured below.
>
> The front end geo of the MB-3 is pretty squirreley compared to say an
> Atlantis or other riv bikes, but one can get used to anything if you ride
> enough and don't ride anything else. I personally used this bike for all
> kinds of mountain biking back in the 90s and some fully loaded touring.
>
>
> -Dave J
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 6:30:53 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Dammit: It's a *MB-3*.
>>
>> And, funny, it fits Catie fine, though she wants a higher stem, which I
>> have, but the seat tube is actually a bit longer than that of the Race Lite
>> -- 20.5 versus 19 -- and it has the same 23 cm top tube.
>>
>> Hmmm. I'll have to install the RL wheels and see how much it raises the
>> bb. With the 1.5s, the bb is 10 1/2" high versus the 12 of the RL with 56s.
>>
>> More to come (you may be sure of that!)
>>
>> Dyslexic Dad, who just road the Riv in ABQ, NM
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Again, thanks for all the suggestions and offers. This morning, a bit of
>>> serendipity: someone was selling a CB3 at Stevie's, obviously upgraded with
>>> old DX drivetrain and Sun Mistral/Mavic 7 sp freewheel wheelset. complete
>>> with full fenders and Blackburn rear rack: $220.
>>>
>>> I think -- subject to change -- I'll transfer over the wheelset and
>>> brake/shift levers from the Race Lite and sell the remainders from both
>>> bikes.
>>>
>>> Anyway, pretty good deal.
>>>
>>> The other bit of serendipity was finding a lightly used lower end but
>>> still made in USA Martin, with very good case, for Catie at $429.
>>>
>>> Build report and photos forthcoming. Catie, needless to say, is much
>>> more interested in the guitar than in the bike, but I think she'll like the
>>> tubeless Maxxis Ikons.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>>> Other professional writing services.
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>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>>> *
>>> ***
>>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
>>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
>>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>>
>>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>>
>>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>>
>>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
>>> Aristotle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

2016-05-01 Thread Dave Johnston
Note that the rear wheel spacing is 130mm by default and the stays are 
stiff enough that's its a real pain to put a 135mm in there, although I did 
it for years.

Seatpost is 27.0

-Dave 

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[RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm weird in that I love this weather: wet and sloppy and 25-50˚F. With 
proper clothing, no brr, and only admirable if it's admirable to be 
5-year-old gleeful stupid! Grin.

Erl: The Grid is awesome! Quirky and definitely still beta, but even so 
it's the easiest way for me to run my two ministry websites (and works well 
for the third biking site too). 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

2016-05-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I got the Race Lite wheelset in quite easily, so either it is slightly
undersized or the dropouts are slightly wider than spec.

H ... We'll see; I need to get Catie free for a half hour to test it
again.

In Other News: Chauncey M sent me a photo of the new roadbikefordirt in its
new British Racing Green powdercoat. He has to chase threads and add
headbadge and decals, and he will bring it by Tuesday, God willing. We'll
see!


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> Note that the rear wheel spacing is 130mm by default and the stays are
> stiff enough that's its a real pain to put a 135mm in there, although I did
> it for years.
>
> Seatpost is 27.0
>
> -Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Did you ride barefoot? Of course, you have fur on your feet, right, like
Bilbo?

It looks like fun. Better than the "38 gusts may reach 50" weather we're
having.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I'm weird in that I love this weather: wet and sloppy and 25-50˚F. With
> proper clothing, no brr, and only admirable if it's admirable to be
> 5-year-old gleeful stupid! Grin.
>
> Erl: The Grid is awesome! Quirky and definitely still beta, but even so
> it's the easiest way for me to run my two ministry websites (and works well
> for the third biking site too).
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Pair Schwalbe Big Bens 26x2.15 in BROWN

2016-05-01 Thread Shawn Granton
Big Bens are GREAT, and I'd probably buy these if I wasn't already well 
(over) stocked in them.

But to slightly hijack this thread (sorry), Rob, I hear you about the tight 
clearances with these tires older mountain bikes. I tried to install Big 
Bens on my 84 Raleigh Crested Butte, and ran into similar clearance issues. 
They just weren't thinking about tires this fat back then!

For a tire similar to the Big Bens, I found that both the Rubena 
Cityhoppers and Continental Retro Ride tires fit older MTB frames 50-52 mm 
width vs the Big Ben's 55), and also come in brown (and cream.) I have the 
Cityhoppers in cream on my Crested Butte and they work fine and look good. 
I'll note that the brown for either tire aren't as nice as that Schwalbe 
terra cotta.

yours,
Sahwn

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

2016-05-01 Thread Joe Bernard
IIRC Grant was spec-ing inbetweener dropout spacing by that point on the Bstone 
timeline, so you could probably fit 130s or 135s in there without much trouble. 
Boy, that sure is a nice bike..I love those early '90s MBs.

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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Winds a light 20mph.

A. The foot challenge. Sigh. Yes,  my feet are fairly fuzzy, but not 
Bilbo fuzzy, and not below fifty/wet/windy fuzzy. However, at a balmy 25˚F 
I really didn't want to wear my concrete-block-like rubber-bottomed Sorels 
that add a few pounds to every pedal stroke. So, I've been testing out a 
boiled wool and sandal system. It works great until the slush mud 
splash/spray you can see frozen to my frame and drivetrain in one of the 
photos soaked through. Numb toes. Not to worry, though! The toes warmed 
right back up as soon as the spray froze on the outside of the sock 
creating a wonderful ice-encrusted wetsuit effect. Rather amusing. Get wet 
to freeze and get warm. Any road, the plan is to make an outer canvas 
moccasin as a wind and highly breathable moisture barrier to wear over the 
boiled wool sock and then see how low that system goes. Grin.

Thought I've trimmed the beard way back because it's Spring (sardonic 
grin), I did have a thought for you poor smooth-faced folk riding in any 
form of sleet, snell, corn-snow, mini-hail (I got them all on this wee 
ride!). The beard removes the sting everywhere but around the eyes. Handy 
dandy! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 2:59:03 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Did you ride barefoot? Of course, you have fur on your feet, right, like 
> Bilbo?
>
> It looks like fun. Better than the "38 gusts may reach 50" weather we're 
> having.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Hey, at least I've got hair! (A lot of it.)

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

>
>
> Thought I've trimmed the beard way back because it's Spring (sardonic
> grin), I did have a thought for you poor smooth-faced folk riding in any
> form of sleet, snell, corn-snow, mini-hail (I got them all on this wee
> ride!). The beard removes the sting everywhere but around the eyes. Handy
> dandy! Grin.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Pair Schwalbe Big Bens 26x2.15 in BROWN

2016-05-01 Thread Bob B
Yeah, it was disappointing. Fork and seat stays had plenty of clearance, it 
was just the chain stays. But thanks for those tire suggestions, Sean. 

Got impatient and just picked up some black 1.75 Conti TourRIDEs from a 
local bike shop today. These are perfect for this CB-Zip in terms of 
clearance. With this particular frame, I don't think I'd go any bigger.

Rob


On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Big Bens are GREAT, and I'd probably buy these if I wasn't already well 
> (over) stocked in them.
>
> But to slightly hijack this thread (sorry), Rob, I hear you about the 
> tight clearances with these tires older mountain bikes. I tried to install 
> Big Bens on my 84 Raleigh Crested Butte, and ran into similar clearance 
> issues. They just weren't thinking about tires this fat back then!
>
> For a tire similar to the Big Bens, I found that both the Rubena 
> Cityhoppers and Continental Retro Ride tires fit older MTB frames 50-52 mm 
> width vs the Big Ben's 55), and also come in brown (and cream.) I have the 
> Cityhoppers in cream on my Crested Butte and they work fine and look good. 
> I'll note that the brown for either tire aren't as nice as that Schwalbe 
> terra cotta.
>
> yours,
> Sahwn
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Don't knock the dome, dude. I monetize it as a ground location system for 
commercial and military aircraft.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Hey, at least I've got hair! (A lot of it.)
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thought I've trimmed the beard way back because it's Spring (sardonic 
>> grin), I did have a thought for you poor smooth-faced folk riding in any 
>> form of sleet, snell, corn-snow, mini-hail (I got them all on this wee 
>> ride!). The beard removes the sting everywhere but around the eyes. Handy 
>> dandy! Grin.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's a direct link to the post (sorry, it took me a while to figure out 
I'd not posted the direct link before):
https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/may-day-grocery-run/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:28:30 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Don't knock the dome, dude. I monetize it as a ground location system for 
> commercial and military aircraft.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Hey, at least I've got hair! (A lot of it.)
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thought I've trimmed the beard way back because it's Spring (sardonic 
>>> grin), I did have a thought for you poor smooth-faced folk riding in any 
>>> form of sleet, snell, corn-snow, mini-hail (I got them all on this wee 
>>> ride!). The beard removes the sting everywhere but around the eyes. Handy 
>>> dandy! Grin.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
Deacon, have you ever considered developing any indoor hobbies?  I do 
woodworking; Pat quilts.  When the weather improves we cycle, canoe and 
garden together.  Then there's always the possibility of starting a book 
group.

Michael


On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> A bit of everything except dry and warm! Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.com *
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[RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
I do not understand, Michael. Doors on the in? There is an inn I pass 
(several, actually), and they have doors. You mean for I should go carve on 
their doors, make pieces quilts, then read books to console them? I have 
never thought of such things, but I am thinking of them now! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 5:41:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Deacon, have you ever considered developing any indoor hobbies?  I do 
> woodworking; Pat quilts.  When the weather improves we cycle, canoe and 
> garden together.  Then there's always the possibility of starting a book 
> group.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> A bit of everything except dry and warm! Grin.
>> https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.com *
>>
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[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

2016-05-01 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
BB spindle length:

It's always safe and usually best to use the bb the crank maker recommends, 
or (more to the point) a dimensional equivalent. I'm not going to address 
taper here, just quick notes about length. It comes down to chainline, 
which has nothing to do with the chain. Almost everything anybody could 
possibly say about CL has already been said by Sheldon on his site, but I 
don't remember whether he addressed derailers there, so I will fast here. 
Chainline is how far out from the center of the seat tube the middle ring 
on a triple sits, or the midpoint between two rings on a double sits. 

There are two common chainlines, I mean three: 

43 or 43.5mm (I forget)--for road doubles
47.5mm -- for road triples and hybrid-like bikes. 
50.5 or 51(I forget) -- for mtn bikes

"For" means "typical," not "the only way." 
But what it means is that mtn bike front derailers can reach farther out 
and can't drag in as close as road front derailers. 

Example: If you put a Sugino or Silver crank on a 110mm bb spindle, the 
chainline will be 47.5, and an XT or any other mtn front derailer will be 
able to shift to the big ring, but not to the small one. To fix that, you 
put a 113mm bb spindle, which changes the CL from 47.5 to 50.5, and it all 
works.

There is no perfect correlation bwt Q-Factor and CL. In general, mtn cranks 
are for bow-legged cowboys and they have high Q's, but it's easy to design 
and make great mtn cranks with mtn bike CLs and low-Q's (under 163?). The 
mtn crank makers don't generally do that, though, because then their cranks 
won't fit onto lots of expensive and prestigious bikes that have chainstays 
that stick out too far in the wrong spots and so require higher Q-Factors.

This doesn't address durability, but it's rare to hear of $40 bb's crapping 
out. Not unheard of, but it's not unheard of at any price, either. We are 
going to stock an ol' cup-and-cone style BB in ass't lengths sometime this 
year. It will cost more and we'll refuse to sell it to -- how do I best say 
this? -- a "newbie with romantic/retro sensibilities but no experience with 
this kind of BB." We certainly won't quit selling the $40 Shimano bbs, 
which are so good. What we will do, when it all happens, is extol the 
theoretical virtues of the old kind...which, given the reliabiliy of the 
new kind, are undeniable, but may not matter.
G

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 1:27:49 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Why are more expensive bottom brackets more expensive? What do you gain? 
> Is it just durability? Or is there any sort of performance gain (ie, does 
> it roll smoother, faster, etc)?
>
> I've worked on most bike parts now minus the bottom bracket and headset. 
> About to change cranks on my hunqapillar form the Sugino triple (with a 107 
> or 110 bb) to a White Industries Eno (with a 113 bb). Trying to figure out 
> if I go w/ the $40 bb on Riv's site? Or a White Industries or something 
> similar? This bike will see 500-1000 miles a year on dirt and some mud. And 
> support the occasional overnighter.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pair Schwalbe Big Bens 26x2.15 in BROWN

2016-05-01 Thread Bob B
Tires have been SOLD

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:02:49 PM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:
>
> Pair Schwalbe Big Bens 26x2.15 in BROWN -- $65 shipped
>
> See attached images.
>
> I mounted these on my wife's CB-Zip, but realized they only gave about 1mm 
> of clearance between the chainstays (Doh! Second time I've done this). They 
> looked and felt AWESOME, but that's just not enough clearance. I rode these 
> to the other end of the block and back, then cleaned them. That's it! For 
> them to be 2 minutes old, you're saving the shipping cost plus some of what 
> it'd take to buy them elsewhere.
>
> Please reply off-list.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTT: Brooks swift for B17 or Flyer

2016-05-01 Thread drew
i have a brooks swift that i think was natural, but it now honey colored 
with chrome rails. it has a few scuffs on the nose and some marks, but has 
barely been used and is unbroken in. it's mostly sat on a shelf since 2007. 
treated with proofide every now and again.  Looking to trade for a b17 or 
flyer in a honey or natural color. 


 

 

 


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[RBW] My 1x8 Clem

2016-05-01 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck


I know the Joe Appaloosas seem to be all the rage right now — not to 
mention all the hubbub with the Hubbuhubbuh and the Rosco Bubbe — but I 
thought I’d share details and impressions of my recent Clem build.



This bike will be used mainly for local transportation, running errands, 
and various on- and off-road exploration — in other words, your basic 
utility bike. While I’ve purchased quite a few parts, accessories, and 
miscellaneous non-bike stuff from Rivendell over the past few years — plus, 
I eat bacon/don’t jog and just ride :) — this is my first experience with 
an actual Rivendell frame.

I went for a minimalistic and utilitarian drivetrain with this one: a 
single narrow-wide chainring up front and an 8-speed cassette in the rear, 
friction shifted via a handlebar-mounted thumbie. Here are the build specs:

   - Frameset: Clem Smith Jr., 52-cm
   - Headset, BB, and seatpost: Included with frame
   - Crankset: Sugino XD2
   - Chainring: Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop, 110 BCD, 34T
   - Cassette: Shimano, 8-speed, 11-34T
   - Rear derailleur: Shimano XT 780
   - Shifter: Sunrace One-At-a-Time thumbie
   - Chain: SRAM PG870 8-speed
   - Pedals: VP VP-001 Thin Gripsters
   - Front hub: Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo
   - Rear hub: Shimano XT T780
   - Rims: Grand Bois, 32h
   - Spokes/nipples: Wheelsmith DB14
   - Tires: Schwalbe Big Ben Race Guard, 650B x 48
   - Handlebar: Nitto Bullmoose Bosco, Cromo Dullbrite 54cm
   - Brake levers: Shimano T610
   - Brakes: Avid Single Digit 7 V-brakes
   - Saddle: Brooks B-17
   - Headlight: Busch and Muller Lumotec IQ Premium Cyo
   - Taillight: Busch and Muller Toplight dyno
   - Rack: Pletscher Clem, with pannier rails and pump
   

Some initial thoughts:

   - 
   
   Despite this being Rivendell’s “budget” bike, I’m really impressed with 
   the build quality of the frame. The lugwork at the seat cluster and fork 
   crown is beautiful, and the fork itself has an elegant little bend to it. 
   The paint job is just gorgeous, and the cream-painted lug windows and 
   fork-crown top are a nice touch. I also appreciate that the frame has 
   plenty of clearance to run wide tires, and it’s got lots of mounting points 
   for fenders, racks, lights, etc.
   - 
   
   It’s a big bike. Of course it’s the long top tube and chainstays, and 
   the wingspan and rise of the Bullmoose Bosco handlebar add to the effect 
   (not to mention the chain needing a few more links over what’s in a 
   standard package). But it’s that long wheelbase — along with 48-mm (actual 
   width is 45 mm) tires — that makes for a plush and comfortable ride. It 
   also has a nice, stable feeling to it — it just goes where I want it to go 
   in a well-balanced manner. And that long wheelbase also keeps my heels away 
   from rear panniers.
   

   - 
   
   I’m not entirely sold on the Bullmoose Bosco handlebar. I love the 
   looks, and it provides for a nice upright position and great visibility for 
   the dense and trafficky area I usually ride in, but I find that my wrists 
   are not in an ideal position. It’s not a deal-breaker, but I wish I could 
   rotate the bar downward just a tad.
   - 
   
   I really like the Sunrace shifters. I’ve read that some haven’t been too 
   happy with them, but mine work flawlessly; I haven’t had any ghost shifting 
   or any other problems. Because of interference with the brake lever 
   clamping bolt, I had to rotate the shifter to the top of the bar (and away 
   from Rivendell’s usual method of mounting them), but it’s still easily 
   accessible with my thumb.
   - 
   
   The 1x8 drivetrain works really well, and I love the simplicity of the 
   set-up. The 34-tooth chainring with the 11-34t cassette gives me a range of 
   26-81 gear inches, which is just right for the terrain I deal with and what 
   I use the bike for, and the narrow-wide chainring does what it’s supposed 
   to do — while I haven’t gone over really rough terrain yet, and I’m running 
   only an 8-speed cassette, I have yet to drop a chain.
   
All in all, I’m very happy with this bike, and I’m glad I took the leap of 
faith last year to jump on the pre-order special on the frame. The Clem is 
a great introduction to Rivendell bikes, and I’m now wondering if this 
might be the gateway drug to picking up more!

More photos of the build can be seen here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30490050@N04/albums/72157659062048963

Bob E

Garwood, NJ

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[RBW] Re: My 1x8 Clem

2016-05-01 Thread Matt P.
What a beautiful bike!  I also run a 1x8, so I appreciate what you have 
done there.  I am also using the Sunrace thumb shifter, but mine is the 
indexed 8-speed version.  Like you, I have found that they work great.

It appears to be a very lng bike.  After years of riding racing bikes, 
it blows me away to see such a huge amount of clearance between the 
seat-tube and the rear wheel.

I was interested to see that Wolf Tooth chainring, I hadn't heard of them 
before, but longer teeth seems to be the answer for keeping the chain on in 
a 1x set-up.  Even the new Shimano and Sram 1x chainrings have that too. 
 But $75.boy that's a lot to spend on a chainring.  I'm glad they don't 
make that in stainless steel, otherwise I'd have to get one of those...

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[RBW] My 1x8 Clem

2016-05-01 Thread Joe Bernard
That's a really nice build, and there's still plenty of hubbub to go around for 
Clem. I love mine, and there should be more hubbub when I'm done with its 
latest iteration..electric! Has anyone ever added assist to a Riv before? I'm 
guessing no one dared, but I'm going for it. Clem is a great-handling frame, 
and I think will be a good candidate for my outrageous little project. Yours 
will continue to be simpler and lighter ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

2016-05-01 Thread Philip Williamson
Oh, that's cool. Cold. May Day weekend here in CA was summery, and loaded 
with planting roses, pruning trees, murdering bamboo, and bottling cider. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 2:53:36 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Here's a direct link to the post (sorry, it took me a while to figure out 
> I'd not posted the direct link before):
> https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/may-day-grocery-run/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:28:30 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Don't knock the dome, dude. I monetize it as a ground location system for 
>> commercial and military aircraft.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 3:21:03 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, at least I've got hair! (A lot of it.)
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>


 Thought I've trimmed the beard way back because it's Spring (sardonic 
 grin), I did have a thought for you poor smooth-faced folk riding in any 
 form of sleet, snell, corn-snow, mini-hail (I got them all on this wee 
 ride!). The beard removes the sting everywhere but around the eyes. Handy 
 dandy! Grin.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm Quickbeam ffhsbb $740

2016-05-01 Thread Philip Williamson
Do you have any pictures? I'm not going to buy it (even though I want its), 
but I always like to see pictures of Quickbeams, and I'd like to see how an 
orange one looks without the downtube stickers. 

Philip
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On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:37:59 PM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> So I bought an orange 60 cm QB at the end of summer '14 from the original 
> owner and I love it.  But,  it fits "riv big" and after riding for a while 
> I told myself that if a 58 ever came up for sale I'd snatch it up.  It did 
> so I did so my gain is your gain.  The bike has lots of beausage but no 
> dents or rust.  The decals had been removed by the original owner as well 
> so it's stealth city bike.  $700+$40 for bikeflights.com.
>
> FW,
>
> CCB
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

2016-05-01 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yes. Be in the now. Thus time and space expand and you have eternity.

~h

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:21:44 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Yep .  . . . I was thinking about Grandma . . . sitting on the porch . 
> .  .and me out for a ride.  No matter where I go . .  . .still as ever she 
> is ever at ease just enjoying the moment.  Every time I'm out riding and 
> the idea pops up to go a little faster, a little harder up this hill , 
> basically "improve where and what I am" . .  .. . I see my Grandma  saying 
> "what are you trying to improve?"  Of course . . . Me , I answer , my ride 
> .  "Oh .  . ..  improve it compared to when and what ?" she asks .  How I'm 
> riding of course, now !  "You are riding right now, are you not ? and since 
> you're riding right now, you don't need to go any faster because now isn't 
> going any where, now is always just where you are and as you are. Now isn't 
> fast and now isn't slow . . . it's always just rightly now . It's not what 
> was and will never be what will be.  No one change it and no one can speed 
> it up, it just kinda is this way." she says . .  . .  Huh .  . . . .   and 
> I have no counter to this .  . . . for she is telling the truth and she 
> knows nothing of a lie.  
>
>Silly Me ! !So it all just goes away to where it never was . . . 
> somewhere else but certainly not now !   And I just go about my merry way 
> .  . . .riding along and smelling the roses :)  
>
>
>Of course, likewise some-times I think Grandma isn't here , that she 
> left some-time long ago never to be seen again.  Yet in my heart I know and 
> hear . .  .it's always now and there's nowhere else to go or be, nothing 
> else to do or say. , She's right where she has always been and will always 
> be . My heart you see .  
>
>
>   That's all , thank you for reading. 
>

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