[RBW] Re: Made it! S24O to Mt. Diablo...

[Rob]

Stunning photo René!

Looking forward to the ride report...

Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] a light bracket

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

For your inspection: a light bracket. Please note the total and utter lack 
of design. Applaud it as minimalist (not true), tolerate it as amateur-ish 
(true), or despise it as laziness (oh, so very, very true).
 
I cut a 5"-ish section off a long 1/4" x 1" aluminum bar and drilled two 
holes, one for an M5 bolt, one for an M6 bolt.
 
It helps to start with an actual light bracket, in this case a Gino's mount. 
All I did (and all I actually wanted to do) was displace the light so that I 
could get a better beam (less wheel/rack shadow) and could still leave it in 
place for any of my configurations: tubus-Tara-with-panniers or 
Nitto-Mini-with-or-without-PlatRack.
 
light bracket picture gallery 
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
 

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[RBW] Re: New AHH First RIde

[Pondero]

Congratulations on being able to enjoy one of life's great blessings,
and welcome to the AHH brotherhood.  I think you will be delighted to
find that Mr. Hilsen is a versatile chap, eager to accompany you on a
variety of adventures awheel.

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[RBW] Re: Made it! S24O to Mt. Diablo...

[John Bennett]

Great, great picture, René. Thanks for posting.

John

On Sep 24, 8:58 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
> More detailed report tomorrow evening when I'm back home... So a
> picture will suffice for tonight!
>
> Hunqapillar above the clouds...
>
>  photo.JPG
> 1760KViewDownload

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[RBW] Re: a light bracket

[EricP]

I do applaud.  Much more utility than the one I recently made

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/6138199594/in/photostream

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sep 25, 6:24 am, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> For your inspection: a light bracket. Please note the total and utter lack
> of design. Applaud it as minimalist (not true), tolerate it as amateur-ish
> (true), or despise it as laziness (oh, so very, very true).
>
> I cut a 5"-ish section off a long 1/4" x 1" aluminum bar and drilled two
> holes, one for an M5 bolt, one for an M6 bolt.
>
> It helps to start with an actual light bracket, in this case a Gino's mount.
> All I did (and all I actually wanted to do) was displace the light so that I
> could get a better beam (less wheel/rack shadow) and could still leave it in
> place for any of my configurations: tubus-Tara-with-panniers or
> Nitto-Mini-with-or-without-PlatRack.
>
> light bracket picture gallery 
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Small bags for sale -- Grey bag claimed.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Too twee for my taste; rather have the rugged, well-used, All British
look of a canvas saddlebag.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:45 PM, E R  wrote:
> here is a three wheeler trunk
> http://www.leelanautradingco.com/home/home.asp?action=viewcat&catid=44
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Re: [RBW] Air Travel With a 60cm. Bombadil ... Or other large and long bikes

[Steve Wimberg]

There is a little wiggle room with the 60cm Ram, so probably a 62 would fit.  
I'm not so sure about a 64, but it might...

Steve


On Sep 23, 2011, at 5:23 PM, robert zeidler wrote:

> What's the biggest frame you think will fit?
> 
> RGZ
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Steve Wimberg  wrote:
>> Hi Garth,
>> I have a 60cm Rambouillet and have shipped it through UPS and on Air France
>> with this bike box.
>> http://www.crateworks.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=crateworks&Product_Code=Pro_XLC
>> The frame just fits lengthwise, such that I have to detach the rear derailer
>> to have it lay flat.  The box has held up and the bike has made the trips
>> just fine (except when Air France neglected to actually put it on the plane,
>> but that's another story).
>> Not sure how the Ram compares to the Bombadil, but this is what I have used.
>> Steve
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Garth wrote:
>> 
>>   I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any dedicated bike containers
>> that would fit a 60cm. Bombadil ? ... (or any large and long bike)  There's
>> always the boxes, but I'd rather use something more sturdy if i could.  I'm
>> trying to figure something out for air travel. The frame height is no
>> problem ... but the extra long wheelbase may be an issue for some
>> containers. I have zero experience in air travel with a bike .
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Re: [RBW] Re: a light bracket

[Seth Vidal]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM, EricP  wrote:
> I do applaud.  Much more utility than the one I recently made
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/6138199594/in/photostream
>

So here's the one I recently 'made' where I define 'made' as "cut off one end"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/6181367496/

-sv

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[RBW] interesting history of the Bleriot airplane

[eflayer]

i just got done with a two week cycling tour in upstate Michigan. lovely. 
while there, i learned of the female pilot Harriet Quimby. she was 
supposedly born in MI and apparently quite the daring woman of her day; 
early in the 1900's. first woman to fly the Channel, but got no recognition 
due to the near simultaneous sinking of the Titanic. she flew in Bleriots 
and it sounds as if they were not tried and true as we now see in the 
bicycle named after the inventor of that plane. 
 
her story is summarized here and how she died doing what she loved is a 
sorta weird and quirky odyssey.
 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/americas-first-lady-of-the-air.html

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[RBW] photo of the Bleriot

[eflayer]

a looker:
 
http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Shut040801/800/pages/002%20Bleriot%20XI.htm

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Re: [RBW] New AHH First RIde

[PATRICK MOORE]

I often get congratulations on my custom Rivs and asked, "How *old* is
that bike?!" The inquirers are often nonplussed when I tell them,
"2003" or "1999" as the case may be.

Rode the Kojack equipped Riv #3 yesterday on a purposely extended
grocery ride; came back up Meadowlark (up the side of the mesa to Rio
Rancho; 1 mile that starts gradually and then gets much steeper),
standing for much of the way in the 72" gear, and bailed to walk the
final 1/8 steepest section with the 25 lb total (including bags) load
(2 bot cheap Chianti! -- for tonites' home made pasta sauce. The
Kojacks make a grocery load much less fraught with anxiety about
expansion cracks and rough pavement.

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> UPS delivered my new AHH yesterday. Moustash bars, Jack Brown(greens)
> and Grip King peddles. I got it together last night and adjusted out
> this morning. I had previously signed up for a local ride several
> months ago and decided why not go ahead and go. I was going to do the
> 65 mile leg but with no miles on the bike I did the 16 mile fun ride
> as my first ride. Had a few long looks at the bike and one guy ask me
> if it was an old style bike I could not resist and told him it was the
> future. The AHH was a joy to ride. I can't say enough about the whole
> experience and thanks to the crew at Rivendell for all the advice and
> recommendations on the build. BTW my plastic  Cannondale is for sale
> on eBay if anyone is interested.
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Re: [RBW] New AHH First RIde

[cyclotourist]

I typed "plastic cannondale" into the ebay search and couldn't find the
bike!  :-)

Congrats on what IMHO is the best all-around bike on the planet...  Enjoy!

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, rlc5925  wrote:

> UPS delivered my new AHH yesterday. Moustash bars, Jack Brown(greens)
> and Grip King peddles. I got it together last night and adjusted out
> this morning. I had previously signed up for a local ride several
> months ago and decided why not go ahead and go. I was going to do the
> 65 mile leg but with no miles on the bike I did the 16 mile fun ride
> as my first ride. Had a few long looks at the bike and one guy ask me
> if it was an old style bike I could not resist and told him it was the
> future. The AHH was a joy to ride. I can't say enough about the whole
> experience and thanks to the crew at Rivendell for all the advice and
> recommendations on the build. BTW my plastic  Cannondale is for sale
> on eBay if anyone is interested.
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[RBW] Re: Made it! S24O to Mt. Diablo...

[Montclair BobbyB]

Wow, Rene... If I didn't know better, it appears you died and rode to
heaven... magnificent shot, and congratulations on making it to the
top

Peace,
BobbyB

On Sep 25, 9:02 am, John Bennett  wrote:
> Great, great picture, René. Thanks for posting.
>
> John
>
> On Sep 24, 8:58 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
>
>
>
> > More detailed report tomorrow evening when I'm back home... So a
> > picture will suffice for tonight!
>
> > Hunqapillar above the clouds...
>
> >  photo.JPG
> > 1760KViewDownload

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[RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[cyclotourist]

If you're in the neighborhood, a ride in San Clemente is taking shape.
Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules
need it.  Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...)
here:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157627749072438/

Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested.  Lots of
food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about.

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne's name

[Kelly Sleeper]

Well my middle name is Kilbourne .. me thinks it was a typo.

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] interesting history of the Bleriot airplane

[MSmith]

Good read.  I love that old time aviation stuff.  Those were truly men and
women of steel.  I kind of got a chill at the end of her tale when I looked
over my shoulder out the window and can practically see where her final
crash took place...

If you ever find yourself in central New York you must check out the Glenn
Curtiss Museum.  Curtiss began as a bicycle builder, then switched to
motorcycle (he was the holder of the land speed record at one point) then
his talents were tapped to design engines for the earliest airplanes.  His
company went on to create the "Jenny," the quintessential barnstormer of the
Twenties.  The museum is one of the coolest I've ever been to.  Lots of old
bikes, motos, and planes.

< http://www.glennhcurtissmuseum.org/>

Cheers- Mike in So. Boston, Mass



On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:46 AM, eflayer  wrote:

> i just got done with a two week cycling tour in upstate Michigan. lovely.
> while there, i learned of the female pilot Harriet Quimby. she was
> supposedly born in MI and apparently quite the daring woman of her day;
> early in the 1900's. first woman to fly the Channel, but got no recognition
> due to the near simultaneous sinking of the Titanic. she flew in Bleriots
> and it sounds as if they were not tried and true as we now see in the
> bicycle named after the inventor of that plane.
>
> her story is summarized here and how she died doing what she loved is a
> sorta weird and quirky odyssey.
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/americas-first-lady-of-the-air.html
>
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Re: [RBW] photo of the Bleriot

[Ray Shine]

Stunning. I think those are Rich-built 650Bs, too!





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Subject: [RBW] photo of the Bleriot


a looker:
 
http://www.airmuseumsuk.org/airshow/2004/Shut040801/800/pages/002%20Bleriot%20XI.htm

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Re: [RBW] Heading to Walnut Creek

[Jim Mather]

I believe Rene and Anne were referring to a group S24O that happened
yesterday. I'd be happy to show you around Diablo on Sunday. I'm
riding the SF Rando Populaire on Saturday. Are you bringing your
Bombadil?

jim m
wc ca

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Kelly Sleeper  wrote:
> Well we land at SFO at 10:00 and staying at mt diablo inn or something.  Yes 
> we plan on riding..
>
> Enjoy your ride since I doubt we can get there that fast.   You'll be fine
>
> Kelly
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne's name

[Jeremy Till]

I always thought it had something to do with the old expression, in 
generally fitting with the bike's "countryness": 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Hill_%28euphemism%29

But from grant's reply it doesn't sound like he was thinking about 
thatat least not consciously. 


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[RBW] New York Times Article ("Sport Grows, and Grows More Perilous")

[Jim Cloud]

I thought you might find this article (http://www.nytimes.com/
2011/09/25/sports/in-cycling-the-fast-lane-brings-increasing-
danger.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y), from today's NYT an interesting
read.

I thought this segment of the article was especially topical in the
discussions that occur regarding the qualities of carbon fiber vs. the
traditional steel frames that are still much in use:
"After crashing with steel-frame bikes 20 years ago, uninjured riders
could often straighten their handlebars and ride off. But bike frames
today are made of extremely light carbon-fiber composites that
frequently shatter in even minor spills."

Obviously, the CF bikes used in today's international racing are
probably lighter (and less durable) than many consumer models.  I
suspect, however, that the manufacturers of CF bikes aren't especially
attuned to the durability of their products for long term use.  Of
course, many well-heeled riders don't plan to keep their bikes for
more than a couple of seasons of riding!

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

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[RBW] NYT Article Link

[Jim Cloud]

Sorry, the link that I sent previously seems to have been truncated,
here's the correct link:


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/sports/in-cycling-the-fast-lane-brings-increasing-danger.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y


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[RBW] a light bracket

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

More photos at same link

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[RBW] Re: a light bracket

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hey, I think I read a reference of yours to that bracket elsewhere on the list. 
I happen to have a well worn chainring around. I may give that a shot. It looks 
both cool and dangerous. Which is kind of like RBW's new web-site/database 
being full of "promise and fear".

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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RE: [RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[Joe Bartoe]

I wish this was closer to me so I could make it.

Joe

Joe Bartoe

Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
website: www.synapticcycles.com
Twitter: @synapticcycles

phone: 949-374-6079

Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700
Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

If you're in the neighborhood, a ride in San Clemente is taking shape.  
Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules need 
it.  Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...) here:  
http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157627749072438/


Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested.  Lots of 
food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about.
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Redlands, CA

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probably benefit more from
improving their taste than from improving 
their performance. - RTMS





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[RBW] holy crap! rivbike.com goes mobile!

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hey... I just noticed that there's now a mobile presentation for the RBW web 
site. I haven't browsed it much yet. But I'm glad it's there.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who browses primarily with an iPhone

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[RBW] Ye Old Rivendell

[Manuel Acosta]

To celebrate Rivendell's new website here are some pictures of past
visits to the shop.
Key things that make this shop great: the sheer randomness  of the
things there, the pure honest of the shop with no thrills or frills
straight to the point but with a sense of class and despite the fact
that you've been there a ton of times you can still get lost just like
the real Rivendell.

Pictures prove how awesome the shop is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157627625865709/


-Manny "I spend all my money on Rivendell" Acosta
http://pedicabconfession.tumblr.com/

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[RBW] FS: Orange Sam Hillborne and Goodies

[Mike Irwin]

Hi everyone,

After a number of months planning, acquiring, planning some more,
waiting, I was nearing a start to my Hillborne build. But alas, due to
a recent need to replace some photography equipment (ok, all of my
missing photography equipment), I've decided to be happy with my
current bicycle and pass along this set to someone else who wants to
build up a very nice Hillborne. I'd prefer to sell as a package deal
than to part out. There are some items you'll need to pick up (ie,
Grip tape, brake/shifting cables, etc), but I'd say you'd be 95%
there. I hadn't even unpacked most of this stuff.

Full package, shipped is $1100. I can certainly do PayPal. If you have
some nice digital photography equipment that you'd offer in trade, I
would be willing to do that too. Essentially, I'm trying to replace a
Canon T3i camera kit, with the 18-55mm lens and a Canon Normal EF 50mm
f/1.4 USM Autofocus lens.

Here's a link to everything...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67920719@N07/sets/72157627625965915/


Rivendell Sam Hillborne 56 (single top-tube)
Includes frame, fork and headset

Wheelset by Jim Thill - If you know Jim, you know he builds dang-good
wheels
Shimano Deore LX hubs
F SHIMANO FH-T660 LX 32 SIL Q/R
HUB R SHIMANO FH-T660 LX 36 SIL Q/R
SS 14g THREADLESS SPOKES
Salsa Delgado Cross 700c36h Silver
Velox 17mm Cloth Rim tape

Shimano Ultegra 8-Speed Bar End Shift Levers
The whole deal - bar ends, etc, etc.

Brooks Champion Standard B17 in aged brown
Thomson seat post - Will hold a big guy like me (~245lbs)
Brooks wrench and saddle cover

Nitto standard stem

Shimano 105 Groupo
SRAM cassette - 8 spd, 11-28

Tektro brakes

Nitto Noodle bars

And everything else you see in the photos, but not the table or chairs
or office plants. Email me if you have any questions.
rivendellbrownbom...@gmail.com.

Thanks!
Mike



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[RBW] holy crap! rivbike.com goes mobile!

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hmmm... A few minutes' experience suggests things are still, shall we say, "in 
flux". I remain hopeful.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[cyclotourist]

Yep, that's a stretch to get there from Capo!  If you can work out the
logistics, hope you can make it!!!  :-)

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Joe Bartoe  wrote:

>  I wish this was closer to me so I could make it.
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Bartoe
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
> email: j...@synapticcycles.com
> website: www.synapticcycles.com
> Twitter: @synapticcycles
> phone: 949-374-6079
>
> --
> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700
> Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
> From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
>
> If you're in the neighborhood, a ride in San Clemente is taking shape.
> Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules
> need it.  Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...)
> here:
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157627749072438/
>
> Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested.  Lots of
> food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS
>
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[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[dougP]

Joe:

We could change the route to swing by your house.  :-)

dougP

On Sep 25, 10:33 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> I wish this was closer to me so I could make it.
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Bartoe
>
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
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> website:www.synapticcycles.com
> Twitter: @synapticcycles
>
> phone: 949-374-6079
>
> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:33:56 -0700
> Subject: [RBW] SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11
> From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> If you're in the neighborhood, a ride in San Clemente is taking shape.  
> Planning for the 15th, with the 22nd as a possibility if enough schedules 
> need it.  Discussion on flickr (we really should start a google group...) 
> here:  
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc...
>
> Great route that can add in some premier singletrack if requested.  Lots of 
> food options in town, which is really what these rides are all about.
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
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> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving
> their performance. - RTMS
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[RBW] Re: New York Times Article ("Sport Grows, and Grows More Perilous")

[Leslie]

I found that interesting.  An article I caught Friday afternoon was on CF 
itself:  
http://gizmodo.com/5843276/why-is-carbon-fiber-so-expensive?tag=giz-explains

However, I have to stop and think about that article you posted.   It 
mentioned that a weight of 14.9 lb is set;   if one were to try to go a size 
under on a Roadeo frame, used a lighter wheel with fewer spokes, seatpost, 
bars, etc.,  (not that I'm advocating such, but, if one were to do such...), 
you could still have a competitive bike that's much more durable, without 
having to have to resort to using added weight to get an underweight bike up 
to the minimum...  

(Yet who was it that came out with a new frame back during the TdF, that is 
even more light than previous bike frames?  Cervelo? Cannondale? Trek?  I 
can't remember, I found it novel that the frame was supposedly less than 
2lb, but not overly interesting to my interests...)

Anywho...

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[RBW] Fwd: 2011 Knoxville Fall Classic Double Century - a set on Flickr

[Eric Norris]

Took my Riv Road out yesterday for a little ride:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627749552464/with/6181869392/
 

This was the first major ride on the Riv with friction downtube levers, and 
they worked great.  I've been working on hand positions on my bikes, and I've 
found that the "flat" platform provided by Ergo levers didn't work well on this 
bike, so I switched over to a pair of Dia Compe brake-only levers that pretty 
closely replicate Campy Super Record levers (a setup that worked great on PBP 
on another bike).

--Eric
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[RBW] Re: New AHH First RIde

[dougP]

Must remember the "it's the future" response!  Nice come back, and
congrats on the bike.

dougP

On Sep 25, 8:05 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I typed "plastic cannondale" into the ebay search and couldn't find the
> bike!  :-)
>
> Congrats on what IMHO is the best all-around bike on the planet...  Enjoy!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, rlc5925  wrote:
> > UPS delivered my new AHH yesterday. Moustash bars, Jack Brown(greens)
> > and Grip King peddles. I got it together last night and adjusted out
> > this morning. I had previously signed up for a local ride several
> > months ago and decided why not go ahead and go. I was going to do the
> > 65 mile leg but with no miles on the bike I did the 16 mile fun ride
> > as my first ride. Had a few long looks at the bike and one guy ask me
> > if it was an old style bike I could not resist and told him it was the
> > future. The AHH was a joy to ride. I can't say enough about the whole
> > experience and thanks to the crew at Rivendell for all the advice and
> > recommendations on the build. BTW my plastic  Cannondale is for sale
> > on eBay if anyone is interested.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH First RIde

[James Warren]

"It's the future". I like it.

Kind of like how in original Star Trek, when they ate a meal, the food was 
synthetic brightly colored "nutritious" cubes...

...but in Star Trek The Next Generation, which took place 80 years after the 
original series, whenever they ate a meal it was real stuff like pea soup and 
roast turkey.



On Sep 25, 2011, at 12:15 PM, dougP wrote:

> Must remember the "it's the future" response!  Nice come back, and
> congrats on the bike.
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Sep 25, 8:05 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> I typed "plastic cannondale" into the ebay search and couldn't find the
>> bike!  :-)
>> 
>> Congrats on what IMHO is the best all-around bike on the planet...  Enjoy!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, rlc5925  wrote:
>>> UPS delivered my new AHH yesterday. Moustash bars, Jack Brown(greens)
>>> and Grip King peddles. I got it together last night and adjusted out
>>> this morning. I had previously signed up for a local ride several
>>> months ago and decided why not go ahead and go. I was going to do the
>>> 65 mile leg but with no miles on the bike I did the 16 mile fun ride
>>> as my first ride. Had a few long looks at the bike and one guy ask me
>>> if it was an old style bike I could not resist and told him it was the
>>> future. The AHH was a joy to ride. I can't say enough about the whole
>>> experience and thanks to the crew at Rivendell for all the advice and
>>> recommendations on the build. BTW my plastic  Cannondale is for sale
>>> on eBay if anyone is interested.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] New AHH First RIde

[islaysteve]

Ric, Enjoy your AHH!  I know how exciting that delivery from UPS can be. 
 Patrick, Enjoy your pasta, my sauce is simmering right now, by coincidence 
(I'm feeding the office tomorrow, but we're having some tonight!)
Steve 

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[RBW] Re: Ye Old Rivendell

[islaysteve]

Great photo essay, thanks Manny!

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[RBW] Re: Made it! S24O to Mt. Diablo...

[Stephen S]

That is a great shot. Thanks for organizing the trip. Maybe we all need to 
hang back a little more on the ride in order to see sunsets like that =)

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[RBW] 100 mile S30O & visit to Rivendell

[dougP]

I'm a bit slow in posting this as it was last weekend, but our only
photog just sent the link today:

phhttp://gallery.me.com/jjacobs702#100096

The Atlantis & I, along with 3 of my intrepid touring buds, did Chico
Velo's Tour of the Unknown Coast 9/17-18.  Starting in Ferndale about
9-ish Sat AM, the route goes south thru the Ave of the Giants, hangs a
right up & over Panther Gap (elev 2,700') on Mattole Rd, & down to the
crossroads of Honeydew.  We camped a few miles west & were well fed by
the Chico Velo chefs.  These people know how to feed riders.  Saturday
was around 65 miles, and we were told 5,000' of climbing.

Breakfast Sunday was at the Mattole Grange, an all you can eat affair
that happens monthly.  From there, on to Petrolia, along the coast to
the aptly named Wall.  I was told by one of the club riders that the
piece you see on approach is 22% & I won't argue.  A nicely placed
food stop at the top (took quite a while to get there) is followed by
an equally steep downhill, only to climb back up again, albeit at
somewhat less a gradient, on the Endless Climb.  From camp back to
Ferndale was 35 miles, with another 5,000' of climbing, but took us
(OK, we're slow) until 3-ish.  Hence the "S30O".

Roads are generally paved but not well maintained (you hop from
pothole to pothole).  Glad I was on 40 mm Marathons.  One of my buds
was on 28s & had a pinch flat each day.  This ride is serious
Rivendell territory.

One our guys was flying out of San Francisco so on the way south we
decided to drop him off at the BART station near Rivendell.  He bought
a Brand V boxy h'bar bag (he has the bar tube but wants more
capacity).  I lusted after a Hunqapillar.  We spoke with Jay who'd
done the Unknown Coast (aka "Lost Coast") loop only in reverse (looked
much harder to me) & in one day.  Jay offered test rides but we'd
never have gotten home had we indulged.  Gotta take him up on that in
the future, though.

I highly recommend this ride.  Chico Velo hauls your gear & feeds you
well.  Interestingly enough, most of them seemed to be on narrow tired
carbon fiber, so whatever works.  No wristbands, bike numbers, etc.
They check you in on a hand writeen list & give you a sheet with the
map on one side & cues and other info on the other.  Actually quite
efficient & refreshing.  We intend to get a group together next year &
build another trip around this event.

dougP

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[RBW] WTB Sackville TrunkSack small

[eddie...@gmail.com]

Looking for a Sackville TrunkSack small in good or better condition,
not particular about color.

I have a choice of Ostrich boxy front bags to trade: one original
version that was mounted on a couple of bikes for testing and removed;
one newer version never mounted.

Thanks,
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Washington, DC

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[RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[Andy.M]

  "Lots of food options in town, which is really what these rides are
all about."


Yep, food, beer and usually a cuppa joe too!

-Andy
no longer in Seattle :)

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[RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Stephen S]

Starting a thread for pics and talk about the recent bike ride up Mt Diablo 
with camping trip. Rene has already posted one shot last night but wanted a 
central thread for pics. 

I'll start with some pics that I posted to flickr earlier : 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/noryia/sets/72157627627950185/

I had a great time.  Rene, Anne, and I met up with Tony, Nathon, and Dustin. 
Dustin had to finish work but the rest of us took off at a leisurely pace. 
Even though Rene had some bike issues with his front derailer and his tires 
and was farther behind we tried to wait up for him at certain spots. Through 
this we met up with Horace and Erin who were joining us but hadn't actually 
responded to any of the threads so, Bonus! 

We did make it up before dark and got some fairly spacious camping spots. 

Some raccoons tried to run off with some of our food as we realized that 
they were smart enough to get into the cabinets that were keeping our food 
safe. Dustin came to the rescue by appearing out of nowhere with some 
concrete which kept the doors closed. 

Dustin left early in the morning, after eating some breakfast, to head off 
to work. Luckily there were some showers at the Juniper camp that we stayed 
at. We headed down after some group photos. One flat and some time later and 
we were at the bottom and on our way back to Riv headquarters. 

Thanks everyone for coming out. Thanks Rene and Tony for setting stuff up 
and getting the sites. I believe the talk was to try and do these more often 
so count me in!

Stephen

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[RBW] Re: New AHH First RIde

[Mike]

I love the "it's the future" response. I gotta remember that.

I've had my Hilsen for 3 yrs now and it's just a great bike. I've
s24O'd, toured, randonneured, noodled and gravel grinded on it without
problems. It's a wonderful machine. It's amazing how changing the
tires changes the bike. With JB Greens it feels pretty darn zippy and
with 700x40 Marathons you can wind your way down dirt roads with
confidence.

--mike

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[RBW] Noticed something about the Rivendell bike models

[James Warren]

And that is that they have evolved in great ways, and the first four 
$2000-level bikes currently shown on the models page are:

Roadeo
AHH
Bombadil
Atlantis

And the evolution has been such that these are each the evolved version of the 
analogous mid-late-90's Rivendell bikes that were named as follows:

The Road Standard
The Longlow
The Mountain
The Allrounder

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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Eric Norris]

Looks fun, except for the sleeping on the ground part.

What's an "enfused" photo?

—Eric N
Sent from my iPad2

On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Stephen S  wrote:

> Starting a thread for pics and talk about the recent bike ride up Mt Diablo 
> with camping trip. Rene has already posted one shot last night but wanted a 
> central thread for pics. 
> 
> I'll start with some pics that I posted to flickr earlier : 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/noryia/sets/72157627627950185/
> 
> I had a great time.  Rene, Anne, and I met up with Tony, Nathon, and Dustin. 
> Dustin had to finish work but the rest of us took off at a leisurely pace. 
> Even though Rene had some bike issues with his front derailer and his tires 
> and was farther behind we tried to wait up for him at certain spots. Through 
> this we met up with Horace and Erin who were joining us but hadn't actually 
> responded to any of the threads so, Bonus! 
> 
> We did make it up before dark and got some fairly spacious camping spots. 
> 
> Some raccoons tried to run off with some of our food as we realized that they 
> were smart enough to get into the cabinets that were keeping our food safe. 
> Dustin came to the rescue by appearing out of nowhere with some concrete 
> which kept the doors closed. 
> 
> Dustin left early in the morning, after eating some breakfast, to head off to 
> work. Luckily there were some showers at the Juniper camp that we stayed at. 
> We headed down after some group photos. One flat and some time later and we 
> were at the bottom and on our way back to Riv headquarters. 
> 
> Thanks everyone for coming out. Thanks Rene and Tony for setting stuff up and 
> getting the sites. I believe the talk was to try and do these more often so 
> count me in!
> 
> Stephen
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[RBW] Re: FS: Orange Sam Hillborne and Goodies

[Mike Irwin]

And sold.

This Hillborne is west-bound.



On Sep 25, 12:52 pm, Mike Irwin 
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> After a number of months planning, acquiring, planning some more,
> waiting, I was nearing a start to my Hillborne build. But alas, due to
> a recent need to replace some photography equipment (ok, all of my
> missing photography equipment), I've decided to be happy with my
> current bicycle and pass along this set to someone else who wants to
> build up a very nice Hillborne. I'd prefer to sell as a package deal
> than to part out. There are some items you'll need to pick up (ie,
> Grip tape, brake/shifting cables, etc), but I'd say you'd be 95%
> there. I hadn't even unpacked most of this stuff.
>
> Full package, shipped is $1100. I can certainly do PayPal. If you have
> some nice digital photography equipment that you'd offer in trade, I
> would be willing to do that too. Essentially, I'm trying to replace a
> Canon T3i camera kit, with the 18-55mm lens and a Canon Normal EF 50mm
> f/1.4 USM Autofocus lens.
>
> Here's a link to everything...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/67920719@N07/sets/72157627625965915/
>
> Rivendell Sam Hillborne 56 (single top-tube)
> Includes frame, fork and headset
>
> Wheelset by Jim Thill - If you know Jim, you know he builds dang-good
> wheels
> Shimano Deore LX hubs
> F SHIMANO FH-T660 LX 32 SIL Q/R
> HUB R SHIMANO FH-T660 LX 36 SIL Q/R
> SS 14g THREADLESS SPOKES
> Salsa Delgado Cross 700c36h Silver
> Velox 17mm Cloth Rim tape
>
> Shimano Ultegra 8-Speed Bar End Shift Levers
> The whole deal - bar ends, etc, etc.
>
> Brooks Champion Standard B17 in aged brown
> Thomson seat post - Will hold a big guy like me (~245lbs)
> Brooks wrench and saddle cover
>
> Nitto standard stem
>
> Shimano 105 Groupo
> SRAM cassette - 8 spd, 11-28
>
> Tektro brakes
>
> Nitto Noodle bars
>
> And everything else you see in the photos, but not the table or chairs
> or office plants. Email me if you have any questions.
> rivendellbrownbom...@gmail.com.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike

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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Stephen S]

The sleeping on the ground part is not that bad as we were in tents and on 
sleeping pads. Granted laying down on my bed after getting home reminded me 
how much I like my bed. =)

I use a software called LR/Enfuse to blend multiple photos together to have 
a more complete exposure . 
http://www.photographers-toolbox.com/products/lrenfuse.php I was shooting 3 
shots at a time to do some HDR shots of the sunset. 


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[RBW] Re: 2011 Knoxville Fall Classic Double Century - a set on Flickr

[Leslie]

I didn't know there was a Knoxville in Napa... I was thinkin' east 
Tennessee, not California...  Nice pics.

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Re: [RBW] New AHH First RIde

[Leslie]

Or, 2001, (filmed in '68) was 'futuristic', with weird spacy fashion, 
whereas 2010 (filmed in '84), everyone was more 'normal-looking' with their 
attire.


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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Tony]

It WAS a great time. A varied bunch with excellent taste in bicycles
and a common dislike of racoons. Dinner time squeezed around one
picnic table relaxing and sharing chocolate (thanks Erin and Dustin),
talk turned to camp stoves, root beer and cilantro. A few photos I
took include my first bobcat sighting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51959000@N08/sets/72157627753024026/

There was talk of getting together again, perhaps on the other side of
the bay, and I can't wait.

Tony


On Sep 25, 4:33 pm, Stephen S  wrote:
> Starting a thread for pics and talk about the recent bike ride up Mt Diablo
> with camping trip. Rene has already posted one shot last night but wanted a
> central thread for pics.
>
> I'll start with some pics that I posted to flickr earlier 
> :http://www.flickr.com/photos/noryia/sets/72157627627950185/
>
> I had a great time.  Rene, Anne, and I met up with Tony, Nathon, and Dustin.
> Dustin had to finish work but the rest of us took off at a leisurely pace.
> Even though Rene had some bike issues with his front derailer and his tires
> and was farther behind we tried to wait up for him at certain spots. Through
> this we met up with Horace and Erin who were joining us but hadn't actually
> responded to any of the threads so, Bonus!
>
> We did make it up before dark and got some fairly spacious camping spots.
>
> Some raccoons tried to run off with some of our food as we realized that
> they were smart enough to get into the cabinets that were keeping our food
> safe. Dustin came to the rescue by appearing out of nowhere with some
> concrete which kept the doors closed.
>
> Dustin left early in the morning, after eating some breakfast, to head off
> to work. Luckily there were some showers at the Juniper camp that we stayed
> at. We headed down after some group photos. One flat and some time later and
> we were at the bottom and on our way back to Riv headquarters.
>
> Thanks everyone for coming out. Thanks Rene and Tony for setting stuff up
> and getting the sites. I believe the talk was to try and do these more often
> so count me in!
>
> Stephen

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2011 Knoxville Fall Classic Double Century - a set on Flickr

[Eric Norris]

It's a used-to-be gold mine. Not much going on there now except cleaning up 
toxic waste left over from the mine.

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/ukiah/knoxville.html

—Eric N
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> I didn't know there was a Knoxville in Napa... I was thinkin' east Tennessee, 
> not California...  Nice pics.
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[RBW] Re: Noticed something about the Rivendell bike models

[Joe Bernard]

Well I'll be danged. You are correct, sir. 
 
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA

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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Anne Paulson]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Looks fun, except for the sleeping on the ground part.

In my old age, I've resorted to the Big Agnes insulated inflatable air
mattress. Every time I take the five minutes it takes to blow it up, I
swear I'll go back to a Thermarest, and every time I lie down on it, I
remember why I don't sleep on a Thermarest any more.

As Stephen wrote, we went up Diablo at a leisurely pace, which, it
turned out, was great. After  a while I found myself alone; I think
Rene was having some problems with his chain hitting his tire, and I
had ridden a bit ahead. And, because it was getting late in the
afternoon, that meant *alone*. The day cyclists we'd seen at the lower
elevations had mostly gone home, as had the motorists, mostly. A
playful bobkitten appeared on the road, completely unafraid of me,
only to be scared away by a rare car. (But it was back when Tony
passed, and that time no motorist appeared so he got a picture which
he will post, right Tony?)
On weekends at midday, with all the bike traffic, Mt Diablo can seem a
bit frantic (though still great), but later in the afternoon one can
appreciate the solitude in the park.

I got to the campground a little after Tony, and we managed to find a
big campsite with a little campsite connected to it, so we had lots of
area to camp, two picnic tables and two food lockers. Juniper
Campground is set on the side of the mountain, with an overlook that
you've seen in the pictures. When we first arrived, I could see the
fog creeping over the coast range far away. By the time the sun set,
we were in an island of land above a marshmallow puff of fog as far as
we could see.

While we were finishing up dinner, Stephen or someone remarked on the
"smoke" blowing around the campsite. No, that was the fog moving in on
us. When I had made my packing list earlier in the week during a heat
wave, I felt silly including a wool undershirt, wool sweater, as well
as a stripy wool hat I made from sock yarn remnants, but when the fog
started rolling in, I was glad to put them all on.

We'd brought an interesting variety of food, much of it shared,
including rather a lot of freeze-dried backpacker food and some
superior salami Dustin showed up with. Erin demonstrated her excellent
taste by bringing *and sharing* some dark chocolate with sea salt.
Super.

I camped under a large pine. We had no rain, but my pine strained
enough fog out of the air that I might as well have been camping in my
own little drizzle. Happily, my tent is waterproof, and though wet on
the outside remained cozy and dry on the inside. The rest of us, I
think, stayed dry, and Nathan didn't even have to put his fly on his
tent.

Raccoon depredation during the night didn't dampen our spirits the
next morning. We rode down the hill, then parted, talking of a future
trip.

Grant Ranch Park on Mount Hamilton, first weekend in November?



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My hovercraft is full of eels

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Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal October Ride - San Clemente 10/15/11

[cyclotourist]

Sonoma or OC?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Andy.M  wrote:

>
>   "Lots of food options in town, which is really what these rides are
> all about."
>
>
> Yep, food, beer and usually a cuppa joe too!
>
> -Andy
> no longer in Seattle :)
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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Horace]

Had a great time. Thanks, everyone!

More photos:
http://goo.gl/7aGNm

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Re: [RBW] 100 mile S30O & visit to Rivendell

[cyclotourist]

Sounds like an all around(er) good time!  Glad you didn't run into John
Lymon!

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:48 PM, dougP  wrote:

> I'm a bit slow in posting this as it was last weekend, but our only
> photog just sent the link today:
>
> phhttp://gallery.me.com/jjacobs702#100096
>
> The Atlantis & I, along with 3 of my intrepid touring buds, did Chico
> Velo's Tour of the Unknown Coast 9/17-18.  Starting in Ferndale about
> 9-ish Sat AM, the route goes south thru the Ave of the Giants, hangs a
> right up & over Panther Gap (elev 2,700') on Mattole Rd, & down to the
> crossroads of Honeydew.  We camped a few miles west & were well fed by
> the Chico Velo chefs.  These people know how to feed riders.  Saturday
> was around 65 miles, and we were told 5,000' of climbing.
>
> Breakfast Sunday was at the Mattole Grange, an all you can eat affair
> that happens monthly.  From there, on to Petrolia, along the coast to
> the aptly named Wall.  I was told by one of the club riders that the
> piece you see on approach is 22% & I won't argue.  A nicely placed
> food stop at the top (took quite a while to get there) is followed by
> an equally steep downhill, only to climb back up again, albeit at
> somewhat less a gradient, on the Endless Climb.  From camp back to
> Ferndale was 35 miles, with another 5,000' of climbing, but took us
> (OK, we're slow) until 3-ish.  Hence the "S30O".
>
> Roads are generally paved but not well maintained (you hop from
> pothole to pothole).  Glad I was on 40 mm Marathons.  One of my buds
> was on 28s & had a pinch flat each day.  This ride is serious
> Rivendell territory.
>
> One our guys was flying out of San Francisco so on the way south we
> decided to drop him off at the BART station near Rivendell.  He bought
> a Brand V boxy h'bar bag (he has the bar tube but wants more
> capacity).  I lusted after a Hunqapillar.  We spoke with Jay who'd
> done the Unknown Coast (aka "Lost Coast") loop only in reverse (looked
> much harder to me) & in one day.  Jay offered test rides but we'd
> never have gotten home had we indulged.  Gotta take him up on that in
> the future, though.
>
> I highly recommend this ride.  Chico Velo hauls your gear & feeds you
> well.  Interestingly enough, most of them seemed to be on narrow tired
> carbon fiber, so whatever works.  No wristbands, bike numbers, etc.
> They check you in on a hand writeen list & give you a sheet with the
> map on one side & cues and other info on the other.  Actually quite
> efficient & refreshing.  We intend to get a group together next year &
> build another trip around this event.
>
> dougP
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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[Stephen S]

Thanks Horace, Great Shots! 

Anne, great right up. Thanks for including my nonsense about the fog. I 
guess you can't always take the desert out of a person. I believe Tony 
posted the pic shortly before you posted. 

On Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:22:40 PM UTC-7, Horace wrote:
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> Had a great time. Thanks, everyone!
>
> More photos:
> http://goo.gl/7aGNm
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Re: [RBW] RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[EastBayGuy]

It was a pleasure to meet everyone last night. It's a bummer I did not get to 
ride up or down with everyone. That's what I get for doing and S240 in the 
middle of my work week. 

Looking forward to November.

Dustin G
WC Ca

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[RBW] Re: 100 mile S30O & visit to Rivendell

[Michael_S]

That area is such a beautiful place to ride and so far away.  I want to do 
the Norther Cali coast tour again when I'm free of the work ball & chain. 
Glad you had a good time. 
 
~mike

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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Bunch Bay Area Mt Diablo Ride / Camp Sept 24-25th

[ercarlso]

It was great to meet and camp with all of you.  The route, the
mountain, the weather and the company were all perfect ... well, the
raccoons were naughty.  Anyway, it's only my second camp trip on my
Betty Foy, and it just handles great with all my gear strapped on the
back.  That really adds to the pleasure of the experience.  I hope to
do another trip like this soon.

I have a few more pictures to add to our pile: http://goo.gl/0C4qU

Erin

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>
> More photos:http://goo.gl/7aGNm

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