[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
Another vote for the Park MLP-1 master link pliers. About $15, and worth it if you like to remove your chain for regular cleaning. Traditional chain tools are sort of regarded as a liability by the chain industry now, and use of a chain tool to remove and replace chain pins voids most chain warranties. Shimano chains still use a traditional chain tool, but they require that you use a new replacement chain pin every time. Other manufacturers (SRAM, KMC, Wipperman, etc) use some version of a quick-link. Yes, I know you can do it with a chain tool, just like you have done it for years, but very bad things can happen that way, and it's much easier (and idiot- proof) to use the master link and the Park master link pliers. On Aug 8, 12:28 am, Lynne Fitz wrote: > There exists the Park Master Link Plier... I had my LBS order one for > me. The KMC master link usually pops open, but I guess mine had been > left alone too long :-) > > On Aug 7, 10:02 pm, rob markwardt wrote: > > > I tried today to get one open and gave up and did it the old fashioned > > way with chain tool...the way I've always done it. I can bust a chain > > really quickly and I never have any problem putting them back together > > so I'm not really sure what the advantage is to having a quick link > > (unless, I'm guessing, you don't have a chain tool). > > > Rob > > > On Aug 7, 7:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > > > quick links damn near impossible? > > > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > > > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > > > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > > > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > > > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > > > this new Sram chain. > > > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > > > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:41 -0700, MitchK wrote: > > Before squeezing/sliding, it might be necessary to work the link back > and forth, especially if the chain is very dry or dirty. Worst case, > apply a dry of lube to each end of the link first. A few drops of mineral spirits on the link helps clean off dirt and sticky grease. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: VO Model 6 Saddle and Campagne Handlebar Bag
Bag sold. On Aug 7, 2:10 pm, Cycletex wrote: > Up for sale: > > One Velo Orange Model 6 leather saddle in very, very good cond. Not > new but I only used this twice. Light mounting marks on the rail. > Leather looks nearly unused. Too small for my butt... > $65 shipped. > > One dang near new VO Campagne Handlebar Bag. Mounted but unused. Just > a tiny bit of leather stretch on the bottom attachment when I tested > it on my bike. > $80 shipped. > > Paypal payment (but not this address). > Shoot me an email if interested. > > Thanks, > Clif Wrighthttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
I find that a Channel Lock plier opens up a SRAM link easily. Vukk On Aug 7, 10:28 pm, Lynne Fitz wrote: > There exists the Park Master Link Plier... I had my LBS order one for > me. The KMC master link usually pops open, but I guess mine had been > left alone too long :-) > > On Aug 7, 10:02 pm, rob markwardt wrote: > > > > > I tried today to get one open and gave up and did it the old fashioned > > way with chain tool...the way I've always done it. I can bust a chain > > really quickly and I never have any problem putting them back together > > so I'm not really sure what the advantage is to having a quick link > > (unless, I'm guessing, you don't have a chain tool). > > > Rob > > > On Aug 7, 7:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > > > quick links damn near impossible? > > > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > > > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > > > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > > > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > > > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > > > this new Sram chain. > > > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > > > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
I started using this method after reading the article. Makes it much easier... http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=3TzvD&page_id=40526&v=c&term=quick%20link&context=all Chuck On Aug 7, 9:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > quick links damn near impossible? > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > this new Sram chain. > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
These are helpful suggestions, worth trying. What I usually do is put as much slack in the chain as i can, then turn the master link vertically, but I'm never able to squeeze the link and slide it open at the same time. The wipperman link is kind of heart shaped - the center of the link has a ridge on only on the top instead of having the hour glass shape with ridges along both edges. I think that's why I don't have any problem removing one, but can't get the other off. I've also had difficulty with Shimano chains when I bought aftermarket links that didn't fit well. Michael On Aug 8, 8:59 am, Chuck wrote: > I started using this method after reading the article. Makes it much > easier... > > http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=3TzvD&page_id=40526&v=c&te... > > Chuck > > On Aug 7, 9:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > > quick links damn near impossible? > > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > > this new Sram chain. > > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
+1. Not that the other way is hard, but this makes it so easy I find I clean my chain more often and that is a good thing. http://g7.smugmug.com/gallery/5638510_LZru3#346638462_te6iX-XL-LB -jb On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > > Another vote for the Park MLP-1 master link pliers. About $15, and > worth it if you like to remove your chain for regular cleaning. > Traditional chain tools are sort of regarded as a liability by the > chain industry now, and use of a chain tool to remove and replace > chain pins voids most chain warranties. Shimano chains still use a > traditional chain tool, but they require that you use a new > replacement chain pin every time. Other manufacturers (SRAM, KMC, > Wipperman, etc) use some version of a quick-link. Yes, I know you can > do it with a chain tool, just like you have done it for years, but > very bad things can happen that way, and it's much easier (and idiot- > proof) to use the master link and the Park master link pliers. > > On Aug 8, 12:28 am, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > There exists the Park Master Link Plier... I had my LBS order one for > > me. The KMC master link usually pops open, but I guess mine had been > > left alone too long :-) > > > > On Aug 7, 10:02 pm, rob markwardt wrote: > > > > > I tried today to get one open and gave up and did it the old fashioned > > > way with chain tool...the way I've always done it. I can bust a chain > > > really quickly and I never have any problem putting them back together > > > so I'm not really sure what the advantage is to having a quick link > > > (unless, I'm guessing, you don't have a chain tool). > > > > > Rob > > > > > On Aug 7, 7:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > > > > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > > > > quick links damn near impossible? > > > > > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > > > > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > > > > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > > > > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > > > > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > > > > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > > > > this new Sram chain. > > > > > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is > an > > > > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > > > > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: suggestions on avoiding stir craziness
one option is to just not get the hernia fixed. http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/3/285 Conclusions Watchful waiting is an acceptable option for men with minimally symptomatic inguinal hernias. Delaying surgical repair until symptoms increase is safe because acute hernia incarcerations occur rarely. todd olsen On Aug 7, 10:33 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > Hi, > I'm going a little bonkers and I'm sure some of y'all have dealt with > a similar problem so I thought I'd ask for advice. > > I've recently been told I have a hernia and after a trip to the ER I > believe them when they tell me that. > > I have been told I can't really lift anything (and I believe it) and > that riding my bike will be a bad idea unless I'm very very careful > not to extend muscles in my lower right abdomen. And of course I can't > work on the bikes b/c I can't easily lift them in place or really > apply a lot of torque to things. I have 2 more weeks before the > surgery and 4 weeks after that in recovery before I can ride again. > > Since I'm sure most folks here have dealt with times being forced off > the bike - I thought I'd ask how you cope with the inability to go/do > anything? > > So far I've learned to knit as a way to kill time and I've caught up > on all the tv shows on hulu i could possibly want to watch. > > Any other suggestions welcome. > > -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
Steve's got the key to removing the link. When the chain is really dirty you need to put some kind of solvent (highly penetrating oil like Liquid Wrench works, too) on the link before trying to remove it. Then, as others have said, careful squeezing together after turning the quick link perpendicular to the regular chain links next to it is also very important. On Aug 8, 5:26 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:41 -0700, MitchK wrote: > > > Before squeezing/sliding, it might be necessary to work the link back > > and forth, especially if the chain is very dry or dirty. Worst case, > > apply a dry of lube to each end of the link first. > > A few drops of mineral spirits on the link helps clean off dirt and > sticky grease. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: suggestions on avoiding stir craziness
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Todd Olsen wrote: > > one option is to just not get the hernia fixed. > > http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/3/285 > > Conclusions Watchful waiting is an acceptable option for men with > minimally symptomatic inguinal hernias. Delaying surgical repair until > symptoms increase is safe because acute hernia incarcerations occur > rarely. > Todd, thanks for the suggestion - I did read up about putting it off. My dad put his off for years. However, mine has come out twice so far and the second time I thought I was going to die b/c it felt like someone trying to pull straight off (from the inside) a portion of my anatomy I am very close to. If I lift anything of any weight I can feel the pressure start and then become dramatically worse. I cannot run AT ALL and I very much cannot ride a bike. so I think 'minimally symptomatic' is not my case but I do appreciate the advice. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Pasela 700x37c source?
Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. Thanks, -Jay Denver, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pasela 700x37c source?
Rivendell is the only place I've ever seen with the 37s for sale. In fact, I noticed recently that they were moved from the tires page to the web specials page and are selling at a discounted price: http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/web_specials_if_any?a=1&page=all#product=10-071 Good luck, mike On Aug 8, 10:46 am, "J. Burkhalter" wrote: > Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? > Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. > > Thanks, > -Jay > Denver, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pasela 700x37c source?
Oops! I just noticed Rivendell is out of them after I sent that link. Sorry about that. On Aug 8, 10:55 am, Mike wrote: > Rivendell is the only place I've ever seen with the 37s for sale. In > fact, I noticed recently that they were moved from the tires page to > the web specials page and are selling at a discounted price: > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/web_specials_if_any?a=1&page=all... > > Good luck, > mike > > On Aug 8, 10:46 am, "J. Burkhalter" wrote: > > > > > Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? > > Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. > > > Thanks, > > -Jay > > Denver, CO- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pasela 700x37c source?
Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Panaracer-Pasela-Bike-Tire-TG-700x37-Wire_W0QQitemZ330347605813QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090727?IMSfp=TL090727176005r3858 AG -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Burkhalter Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:47 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pasela 700x37c source? Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. Thanks, -Jay Denver, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pasela 700x37c source?
Here's the non-TG: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/622.html AG -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Burkhalter Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:47 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Pasela 700x37c source? Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. Thanks, -Jay Denver, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Shine on
I picked up a can of Meguiar's Mag and Aluminum polish at the auto parts store, and can report that it does a bang up job on chrome (fork crowns and lugs for example), polished aluminum (cranks and brake calipers), and brass (bells). I was pleased to see that it also does a bang up job on the tin name plate on some Carradice bags, like my old zip roll. http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/product_detail.asp?T1=MEG+G13508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] For Sale Listings Redux
Hi Everyone, I added more to my for sale listings and added some pics. You can see them here: http://thesaltycyclist.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-sale-listings.html As always, if prices seem unreasonable, I'm willing to listen (prices do not include shipping). Thanks, Joe _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
So in summary...I need to bag tie links together to make a U, lubricate with liquid wrench, use a special tool, and squeeze links together while turning perpendicular...gimme that chain tool! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
I am sure I am not unique, but I have never used anything other than my hands to take them apart. They get tricky especially when dirty, but you can bend them in and out of plane and they usually loosen up pretty quick and open pretty easily. If it is a new chain, don't use a chain tool, it will catch up to you. Chains have a habit of giving out when you are out of the saddle sprinting up a short incline or from a red light start. It is impressive how fast you crash in these scenarios. So in summary, figure out how to use it right or maybe get a shop to do it for you. Tarik On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > > So in summary...I need to bag tie links together to make a U, > lubricate with liquid wrench, use a special tool, and squeeze links > together while turning perpendicular...gimme that chain tool! > > > > > -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 15:04 -0600, tarik saleh wrote: > I am sure I am not unique, but I have never used anything other than > my hands to take them apart. They get tricky especially when dirty, > but you can bend them in and out of plane and they usually loosen up > pretty quick and open pretty easily. When I take a chain off to clean it, I'm sitting there with a coffee can with an inch or so of mineral spirits in it, and as soon as the chain comes off it goes into the can to soak. I have a toothbrush handy as well, that I use to clean the chainrings with. So it's no trouble at all to dip that toothbrush into the mineral spirits and transfer a few drops onto the link before I open it. > If it is a new chain, don't use a > chain tool, it will catch up to you. And the bit you didn't mention is, when you push the pin out and back in, with some chains you run the risk of damaging the chain. Shimano's solution was for you to push the pin all the way out and replace it with a special pin that had a tapered point that you later broke off. Campagnolo's answer for its Spinal Tap group is a three hundred dollar chain tool. > > Chains have a habit of giving > > out when you are out of the saddle sprinting up a short incline or > > from a red light start. It is impressive how fast you crash in these > scenarios. That hurts just thinking about it! > So in summary, figure out how to use it right or maybe get > a shop to do it for you. > Amen. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 13:58 -0700, rob markwardt wrote: > So in summary...I need to bag tie links together to make a U, > lubricate with liquid wrench, use a special tool, and squeeze links > together while turning perpendicular...gimme that chain tool! You exaggerate. Try a few drops of mineral spirits. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:58 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > > So in summary...I need to bag tie links together to make a U, > lubricate with liquid wrench, use a special tool, and squeeze links > together while turning perpendicular...gimme that chain tool! With the SRAM quick links, I just use a regular pair of pliers on an angle to slide the pins towards each other. Takes about 5 seconds or so once I find the link. What happens is the buildup of grit and such makes it hard to slide the pins in the slots. I never take the chain off except to replace it so it's no big deal to me that this is a bit of a pain. I know people who take chains off for cleaning, and people who use wax would need to do this periodically to rewax; this sort of thing may bug them more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale Listings Redux
Is the 34t Sugino chainring a 110mm BCD? It's listed as a 74mm, and I don't see it in the photo. I do see what appears to be a 34t 110 though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Kenda 507X50 mm (24 X 1.95) tires
They have perhaps seen miles on them, so as new. The tread looks much like that of the old City Slickers I used to use; but, note, these are Kendas, 507 bsd, and 50 mm wide. Let's say $15 plus shipping, CONUS only. Trade offers welcome; how about some 700c X 28 or 700c X 50+ tubes. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Kenda 507X50 mm (24 X 1.95) tires
That is $15 for the pair, not each. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > They have perhaps seen miles on them, so as new. The tread looks much like > that of the old City Slickers I used to use; but, note, these are Kendas, > 507 bsd, and 50 mm wide. > Let's say $15 plus shipping, CONUS only. > > Trade offers welcome; how about some 700c X 28 or 700c X 50+ tubes. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
That's odd; I never, ever have problems with Sram links unless the chain has a lot of grit on it (mine don't, since I wax them). You are meant to squeeze the plates together while pushing together, so that the pins slide out of the slots. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:49 PM, MichaelH wrote: > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > quick links damn near impossible? > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > this new Sram chain. > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > Michael > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
Well, after having broken many chains over many years with many different kinds of chain tools (my first one: a large nut -- the kind that goes on a bolt, a nail, and a hammer), I find that the advantage of master links is that they are simpler, faster, easier, as long as grit isn't blocking the link and you are using the right technique. I open my masterlinks, generally Sram but I've used Connex, in literally less than five seconds. So, the advantages are, severally, speed, ease, and simplicity. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:02 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > > I tried today to get one open and gave up and did it the old fashioned > way with chain tool...the way I've always done it. I can bust a chain > really quickly and I never have any problem putting them back together > so I'm not really sure what the advantage is to having a quick link > (unless, I'm guessing, you don't have a chain tool). > > Rob > > On Aug 7, 7:49 pm, MichaelH wrote: > > Am I the only one who finds removing the Sram & after market chain > > quick links damn near impossible? > > > > I purchased a new chain from Riv (Sram) for my wife, but when I tried > > to open the existing quick link couldn't do it. I finally just > > removed another link and chucked the chain. > > > > I have found I can always open the connex links, which are heart > > shaped, but never the Sram links. I have taken to saving the old > > connex links when I replace a chain and using them over, as I did on > > this new Sram chain. > > > > I think I now have enough Connex links for all my bikes, so this is an > > academic question, but do wonder if I'm alone with this disability. > > > > Michael > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: For Sale Listings Redux
Hi Garth- You are correct. It is a 110 bcd 34T that came stock on my Ritchey 110 compact double crankset along with the 50T ring listed. There is very little wear on either ring. Sorry about the confusion. Joe > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:22:01 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: For Sale Listings Redux > From: garth...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Is the 34t Sugino chainring a 110mm BCD? It's listed as a 74mm, and I > don't see it in the photo. I do see what appears to be a 34t 110 > though. > > _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?&OCID=0809TL-HM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Kenda 507X50 mm (24 X 1.95) tires
And, that is "seven" miles on them. They're new, from my daughter's Electra, which just got wider tires. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > That is $15 for the pair, not each. > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> They have perhaps seen miles on them, so as new. The tread looks much like >> that of the old City Slickers I used to use; but, note, these are Kendas, >> 507 bsd, and 50 mm wide. >> Let's say $15 plus shipping, CONUS only. >> >> Trade offers welcome; how about some 700c X 28 or 700c X 50+ tubes. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Two Large Rivendells, Freewheel Fiesta, and More
I have two Rivendell bicycles for sale, along with other list- appropriate bikes and parts, listed on my website. http://web.me.com/lenlescosky/Bikes/Welcome.html If this goes well I may add to the list. Thanks, Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
I'm always amazed at the passion that chains brings out on email lists. I promise to work on my master link skills... but I refuse to tell you what I use for chain lube. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > > > I'm always amazed at the passion that chains brings out on email > lists. I promise to work on my master link skills... but I refuse to > tell you what I use for chain lube. Funny! I belong the the sect that waxes chains and has no problems with master links. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pasela 700x37c source?
Thanks Adam. Looked everywhere BUT Harris. FWIW, the non-TG's (all sizes) are only $20 at check out and the 700x32's are $16. On Aug 8, 12:17 pm, "Grossberg, Adam J" wrote: > Here's the non-TG: > > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/622.html > > AG > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Burkhalter > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:47 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Pasela 700x37c source? > > Anyone know where I can get my grubby little paws on a pair of these? > Non-TG preferably, but the folding TG's will do. > > Thanks, > -Jay > Denver, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Wanted: Nigel Smythe Big Loafer ( Current Tweed Version)
As the title of this post states, I am looking for a Nigel Smythe Big Loafer in the current Tweed colors. If you have one for sale please let me know. This bag would match perfectly with my Little Loafer. Regards. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Basket installation question
I use a medium sized Wald mounted via Zip-ties to the Nitto Campee front rack. Sometimes I remove the basket and use my little loafer with a saddle bag. No method to my madness, I just use whatever I feel like. On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, MichaelH wrote: > My wife has been asking me to find some way to bring her dog ( a 10.5 > lb. mini dachshund named Sam) on our bike trips. I think this means > mostly on my bike. I'm thinking about a wald basket for the back > rack, but wouldn't want it there most of the time . G. P. suggests > putting them on with zip ties, which seems pretty inconvenient for > moving it. Has anyone tried velcro, or perhaps just some duct tape or > any other way to make these baskets more flexible? > > Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Right Frame Size?
I think it depends on your riding preference. The 59cm might be right for you if you prefer a more upright position whereas the 57cm frame might be better if you ride in a more aerodynamic crouch...your age may be a factor too. I'd discuss this again with Riv before making a decision. On Aug 7, 7:04 am, Michael wrote: > I am ordering an A. Homer Hilsen. My PBH is exactly 33 inches (83.8 > cm), I was informed that a 57 cm with 700 wheels would be better for > me than a 58 with 650s. Any opinions on my correct size frame? If > you do the math as on Riv site, my size frame is 58. Is a 59 cm way > too big? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Those blankety blank, so called quick links.
on 8/8/09 1:58 PM, rob markwardt at robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: > > So in summary...I need to bag tie links together to make a U, > lubricate with liquid wrench, use a special tool, and squeeze links > together while turning perpendicular...gimme that chain tool! I've always had good luck holding the chain as if I were trying to loosen a stiff link by hand, then bending back a bit to slide it together. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes "You must be the change you want to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Right Frame Size?
O...there aren't too many places besides custom where you can get a 650B that big. On Aug 8, 11:23 am, IPATOM wrote: > I think it depends on your riding preference. The 59cm might be right > for you if you prefer a more upright position whereas the 57cm frame > might be better if you ride in a more aerodynamic crouch...your age > may be a factor too. I'd discuss this again with Riv before making a > decision. > > On Aug 7, 7:04 am, Michael wrote: > > > > > I am ordering an A. Homer Hilsen. My PBH is exactly 33 inches (83.8 > > cm), I was informed that a 57 cm with 700 wheels would be better for > > me than a 58 with 650s. Any opinions on my correct size frame? If > > you do the math as on Riv site, my size frame is 58. Is a 59 cm way > > too big? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Kenda 507X50 mm (24 X 1.95) tires
The Kendas have been claimed. Thanks for the interest. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > That is $15 for the pair, not each. > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> They have perhaps seen miles on them, so as new. The tread looks much like >> that of the old City Slickers I used to use; but, note, these are Kendas, >> 507 bsd, and 50 mm wide. >> Let's say $15 plus shipping, CONUS only. >> >> Trade offers welcome; how about some 700c X 28 or 700c X 50+ tubes. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
