[python-uk] UK Python Conference and sprint/followup events
Hi all. This is taking shape fast. There seems to be interest in a week-long PyPy sprint the week after the Oxford conference, which would assure a good turnout of top python developers from around Europe being here. (24-31 April - ish). This would ideally need a cheap location with a room that can handle 15 or so. I will investigate Oxford (university & schools, mostly) after the holidays, but I wonder if anyone else has suggestions - preferably not many hours away? Sadly, ReportLab's office and business centre won't work for these numbers. If we can find space, we could perhaps even arrange a budget-priced "Python open day" for those who find the £300-plus conference a stretch, or tack on some training events. Best Regards, Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] UK Python Conference - 20-23 April 2005 - Last Call for talks
The UK Python Conference for 2005 will take place at the Randolph Hotel, Oxford on 20-23 April 2005. This is the FINAL CALL for talks. The original deadline of 26th December has been extended to 6 January, to help all those folks who were concentrating on the PyCon deadline of 30th December. Recycled PyCon talks are acceptable. About the event === This will once again be held as a track within the ACCU conference. The conference site is here: http://www.accu.org/conference/ Python track information will be reachable from here once talk selection is complete: http://www.accu.org/conference/highlights.html#python The ACCU event is one of the foremost conferences for programmers, attracting the inventors and/or leading proponents of C, C++, Java, .NET and Python over the last few years. Past Python speakers have included Guido van Rossum, David Ascher, Alex Martelli, Armin Rigo, Paul Everitt, Marc-Andre Lemburg and many others, and the ACCU now treats Python as being fully on par with Java and C++. The event is priced midway between commercial and community events, at approx. £100 per day, and is professionally managed. It is located in a historic hotel in the centre of Oxford and is ideal for anyone wanting to combine a holiday with a conference. We aim to hold a Python 'masterclass' the day before, and are working to arrange a PyPy sprint the week after. Conference Format = The Python conference will span THREE days, with ONE track. The first slot each morning is taken by the cross-conference keynote. This was the overwhelming preference of those we polled last year. (There will NOT be a separate Open Source track this year; the "rotating special subject" is Security. As a result, Python-related security talks would be of interest) You may propose 90 minute or 45 minute talks. The ACCU's general preference is for a small number of high quality, well prepared talks on subjects of broad interest to programmers, and the Python track will follow this. There will also be space for less formal lunchtime talks, evening BOFs and other events. Speakers' compensation is yet to be confirmed, but in the past those doing 90 minutes (or 2x45 minute talks) will be eligible for 4 days paid accomodation and admission to the 4 day event; 45 minute speakers will gain 1 day's admission. Where possible, we will attempt to allocate resources to ensure that the best speakers are able to attend irrespective of circumstances. Submission Procedure === Please send an email to pyuk2005_talks at reportlab.com not later than 6th January (this is the FINAL deadline!), with the following information: Your Name Short Biography Talk Title Talk Synopsis This is a simple mailbox; the committee will review and acknowledge submissions next week. If the talk is selected, you will be given a chance to refine the details through a web based system in January. Committee = A small committee has been formed to scrutinize talk proposals including those whol volunteered last year. This includes myself, Dr. Tim Couper and Dr. John Lee. General discussion about the event should be directed to the python-uk list (python-uk at python.org) ReportLab Europe Ltd. is managing parts of the event infrastructure and will be providing some staff time to provide a guaranteed point of contact. --- Best Regards Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect RepoortLab Europe Ltd. tel +44 20 8544 8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Three weeks to go to Python-UK
There are just three weeks to go to Python-UK! The UK Python conference is once again taking place at the Randolph Hotel in the centre of historic Oxford, as part of the ACCU conference, on 21-23 April. http://www.accu.org/conference/python.html On Tuesday 19th there's also a full day tutorial for intermediate and advanced Python programmers, given by Michele Simionato, at a fraction of the price of most professional training courses. There are just a few places remaining, so book quickly! http://www.accu.org/conference/python_tutorial.html Anyone attending the event is free to move between tracks and learn from a world-class program on patterns, agile development, Java, C++ and C# as well as Python. Best Regards, Andy Robinson Python-UK Conference chair ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Ten days to go to Python-UK!
This is a reminder that there are just ten days left before the UK Python Conference. This is the one chance in the UK each year to hear in-depth talks on a wide variety of topics from top Python experts. It takes place at the Randolph Hotel in Oxford on 21-23 April. https://www.accu.org/conference/python.html The Python event is part of the ACCU Conference which is one of the world's leading events on C++, Java, patterns and development methods. We are very happy to announce that Greg Stein will be flying in to talk about "Python at Google" as our keynote talk. We've got a great array of talks on language features, GUIs, network programming, testing tools, PyPy; and case studies and expertise from many of the key Python companies and projects including Google, the BBC, SchoolTool, PyPy, AB Strakt, Clocksoft and ReportLab. Places are limited, so please register now at... https://www.accu.org/bookings/ Best Regards, Andy Robinson ACCU Python Conference Chair ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Nokia to speak at Python-UK next week
I am please to announce that Tapio Tallgren of Nokia Research Labs is coming to Python-UK to talk about Python on the Nokia Series 60 phones. If you want to get hands-on, upgrade that handset now! This is a late addition to an already star-studded programme including Greg Stein of Google, and many other key Python speakers and projects. Python-UK is part of the ACCU conference, Randolph Hotel, Oxford, 21-23 April (i.e. Thursday to Saturday next week). There's still time to sign up and attend the event, in its entirety or on a day by day basis! http://www.accu.org/conference/python.html Best Regards, Andy Robinson Python-UK conference chair ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Anyone alive
Tim Couper wrote: yes alive and used for announcing uk-specific python events (and other chat), like the upcoming meet-up in London tomorrow evening, if I'm not mistaken .. Tim Dr Tim Couper CTO, SciVisum Ltd www.scivisum.com andy wrote: Hi all At the risk of being flamed, I just wanted to see if this list was still active. I've been a subscriber for a few days now and there have been no posts. Andy ___ Well then hello both Tim & Michael. What are the toics for tomorrow's meeting Tim? A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Anyone alive?
Alexander Harrowell wrote: I'm sure many have seen this: http://xkcd.com/353/ ___ That's funny!! :) Thanks -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Anyone alive
Hi all At the risk of being flamed, I just wanted to see if this list was still active. I've been a subscriber for a few days now and there have been no posts. Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] forgotJS
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 16:19, Dave C wrote: > > Hi, > Many Python developers have the need for JavaScript at some point or other so > I thought I'd share a link to my project. It's a series of code snippets > intended as a quick read when returning to JavaScript, and many of the > peculiarities of JS are demonstrated. Some fragments of Python are included > for comparison. https://github.com/ReduceRightDave/forgotJS > Have a spiffing day, > Dave Very handy! I have been forgetting Javascript at least twice a year for the last 20 years. Sadly, the world won't let me forget it long-term. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] who wants to hire my friend Ian?
Sadly I fear it is a very tough time in the market for anyone looking for work now. Anyone else finding the same? Half our business is consulting - writing reports for people - and to be honest just about every client who had a project planned found their own businesses grinding to a halt in April and May, and put the brakes on. Large organisations almost uniformly started out with an attitude of "let's use this quiet time and improve our systems", and it morphed into "all projects on hold until normality returns". And, if anyone needs manpower, there's a whole year's worth of computer science grads just come on the market, as well as furloughed IT staff volunteering for other projects. Hopefully it will work itself out in a couple of months... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] UK Python Conference, 20-23 April 2005 - getting started
Hi everyone. It's once again time to begin planning the Python track at the ACCU conference. I should have started this sooner :-) It's the same place, Randolph in Oxford on 20-23 April 2005. I am sending out a call for papers concurrently with this. I would like to attempt at least a pretence at democracy by running through what we plan now, to let anyone air their views. Call for papers is going out now, and we will try to get some Python-specific web pages together next week. I will be at an ACCU planning meeting today and they will want to start publicising this heavily from 2nd January. Here are some issues I should throw out: 1. Is this the UK Conference? Are there others? Last year some people suggested there should be a UK event which is more community-oriented, elsewhere. If so, that would be great, and if they feel strongly it should take over the title of "UK Python Conference" then I don't want to stand in their way. However, barring howls or concrete plans for another event, I would like to brand this "The UK Python Conference". 2. Committee and Volunteers Two gentlemen kindly volunteered to help at last year's event. If they are on this list, please ping me - I lost your details! If not we will probably find you through a mailing to the attendees. The ACCU normally chooses and solicits talks in committee and insisted on this last year. This year we're doing a Call for Papers for the Python tracks, as you'll see with the concurrent emails. Tim Couper, myself, John Lee, and (if we can find them) the two volunteers will form a committee to look at the talks. If anyone else wants to join, say so. Be warned there will be no financial perks for the committee - if you want to get in free, you have to have a talk accepted. ACCU committee members all follow the 'pay or speak' rule. 4. Format This is largely set. We have 3 days and 3 90 minute slots on each, plus lunch and evening events. Slots can be divided in two. We must therefore aim for a small number of high quality talks of interest to most programmers. We could add a second track if (a) we could demonstrate there were likely to be more than 50 people and we needed to split rooms AND (b) if there were too many great talks. But last year most people really wanted one track to avoid tough choices. 5. Price Not set but expected to be similar to last year (approx £100 per day). This year has 'Security' as the rotating special subject, so we won't have an Open Source track and the corresponding massive crossover with Python. As always it will be cheapest if you join the ACCU. 6. Extra events If people want to hold sprints, open days, tutorials or anything else around the event, let us know soon. It may be possible to find cheaper space within the University before or after the event. The event is provisionally Thu-Fri-Sat which would make sprints or tutorials on Tue-Wed feasible. If lots of people want to show what they are doing and meet up at lower cost, one possibility is a Python community open day on the Tuesday, All comments are welcome Best Regards, Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd p.s. I am on holiday this week and getting email sporadically until 8th December. ___ python-uk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] UK Python Conference - 20-23 April 2005 - Call for papers
The UK Python Conference for 2005 will take place at the Randolph Hotel, Oxford on 20-23 April 2005. We hereby invite speakers to submit proposals for talks. About the event === This will once again be held as a track within the ACCU conference. The conference site is here, and more details on the Python track will appear shortly. http://www.accu.org/conference/ The ACCU event is one of the foremost conferences for programmers, attracting the inventors and/or leading proponents of C, C++, Java, .NET and Python over the last few years. Past Python speakers have included Guido van Rossum, David Ascher, Alex Martelli, Armin Rigo, Paul Everitt, Marc-Andre Lemburg and many others, and the ACCU now treats Python as being fully on par with Java and C++. The event is priced midway between commercial and community events, at approx. £100 per day, and is professionally managed. It is located in a historic hotel in the centre of Oxford and is ideal for anyone wanting to combine a holiday with a conference. Conference Format = The Python conference will span THREE days, with ONE track. The first slot each morning is taken by the cross-conference keynote. This was the overwhelming preference of those we polled last year. (There will NOT be a separate Open Source track this year; the "rotating special subject" is Security. As a result, Python-related security talks would be of interest) You may propose 90 minute or 45 minute talks. The ACCU's general preference is for a small number of high quality, well prepared talks on subjects of broad interest to programmers, and the Python track will follow this. There will also be space for less formal lunchtime talks, evening BOFs and other events. Speakers' compensation is yet to be confirmed, but in the past those doing 90 mimutes (or 2x45 minute talks) will be eligible for 4 days paid accomodation and admission to the 4 day event; 45 minute speakers will gain 1 day's admission. Where possible, we will attempt to allocate resources to ensure that the best speakers are able to attend irrespective of circumstances. Submission Procedure === Please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] not later than 26th December, with the following information: Your Name Short Biography Talk Title Talk Synopsis This is a simple mailbox; the committee will review and acknowledge submissions a couple of times a week. If this shows promise, you will be given a chance to refine the details through a web based system later. Committee = A small committee will be formed to scrutinize talk proposals including those whol volunteered last year. This includes myself, Dr. Tim Couper and Dr. John Lee. General discussion about the event should be directed to the python-uk list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ReportLab Europe Ltd. is managing parts of the event infrastructure and will be providing some staff time to provide a guaranteed point of contact. --- Best Regards Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Tutorial at Python UK, Oxford, 19 May
Michele Simionato is giving a full day tutorial titled "The Wonders of Python" at the UK Python Conference, Randolph Hotel, Oxford on 19 May. (This replaces Alex Martelli, who is now working for Google in California). https://www.accu.org/conference/python_tutorial.html This is a fantastic opportunity to boost your Python skills and catch up on the newer features of the language, for a fraction of the price of a professional training course. The course costs £135 for ACCU members and £160 for non-ACCU. There are still a few places left; anyone wishing to attend should directly contact the organisers, Archer Yates Associates, whose details are on the bottom left corner of the page. Best Regards Andy Robinson UK Python Conference program chair ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python UK 2006
Simon Brunning wrote: > Is there going to be a Python UK 2006? > Yes! Maybe two actually, since John Pinner has been talking about an autumn one at the "Conservatoire" in Birmingham. (I must apologize for having been in workaholic-land and am just emerging - it was so bad I failed to notice the Morgan Stanley thing last week which I'd love to have attended. I am way behind on organising the event this year). The usual ACCU thing is on Wednesday 19 April to Saturday 22 April 2006. Guido is flying over to be a keynote for the whole conference. There will be a two-day Python only track, and a day of "dynamic languages" with talks on Ruby and Javascript. Things are a bit different this year; it's 'winding down' as they want to have "python talks on the programme" rather than a "Python conference" from 2007, which IMHO makes sense as Python is now 'mature' and part of the landscape. Also, we all learned that the Python world wants a cheaper, bigger event which ACCU cannot offer. At present I have talk submissions from - Michael Hudson on PyPy - Michael Hudson again on Exception Handling - me on metadata frameworks (common themese across Django/Sqlobject/ various graphics frameworks/validation issues) - Andrew Thompson on Python in Finance - Steve Holden (subject to be decided) Also John Pinner is giving a "convert to Python" tutorial on the tutorials day which should be a big draw. We have 6 90-min slots and the committee would prefer a small number of UK speakers, as they are aying to bring Guido on.. I need to get my skates on and firm it up fast. I'd really love to have talks on - Django, Turbogears or a comparison. - Eggs and setuptools If anyone can do these or has another idea, I suggest to post this list or email me really quickly. I emailed Simon Willison but haven't heard back. Best Regards, - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python UK 2006
Simon Brunning wrote: > I'll give Simon a shout. I only just talked him out of doing live code > in his half hour slot last week. He's mad keen. He is the most > enthusiastic man on the planet. With 90 minutes to play with, I'm sure > he'd come up with something spectacular. Thanks, please do ask, and I'll email him again. He might not have got my email but let's hunt him down. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python
Simon Faulkner wrote: > I often have to write small web databases - nothing too fancy, just a > table or 2 and a few forms/reports. Sometimes it's just a web frontend > to a program othertimes more like a database for tracking items. > > I have used Python and MySQL in CGI but it seems quite long winded. > > I have used Zope/Plone but it is quite a heavyweight solution for a > small app and quite slow unless you do a lot of caching. > > I have looked at Ruby/Rails but it seems a shame to loose what > experience I have in Python by switching to a new language. > > Does anyone have any experience in this field and/or can suggest what I > might try or look at to continue developing in Python? > CGI is only longwinded if you do it all from scratch; there are many nice frameworks and paradigms to give you a head start. I have been playing with Django (www.djangoproject.com) and it's beautiful. You essentially declare the database schema in the Python model, and you get a very nice web interface for add/edit/delete stuff autogenerated for you. Be prepared to spend half a day setting up though. The other well-documented approach at the moment is Turbogears which includes CherryPy for the web app and SQLObject for database management. Nothing 'for free' but a very clean approach. Hope this helps, - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python
> I appreciate the difference but also find that I sometimes get a more > measured, mature response from the UK specific groups without anyone > yelling "Like, d00d, use PHP man!" As one of the respondents I maintain that this group has a superb signal-to-noise ratio and gives correct answers to reasonable questions almost instantly ;-) > I am also hoping to get to attend a Python event or 2 and thought I > would like to know who's who before pitching up. > > Are there any event's 'ooop north'? John Pinner has been hinting at organising a proper community conference in Birmingham next autumn, which is probably half way for some peoples' definitions of North. John, is this still looking likely? - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Web Development with Python
Chris Withers wrote: > It's confusing really, the people in the Plone community > mainly came from the original "Zope Community" and they're great people. It's confusing really, the people in the Zope community mainly came from the original "Python Community" and they're great people. I'll stop there ;-) - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python UK 2006
Tony Ibbs wrote: > The ACCU conference web pages haven't released the schedule yet, but > since I can't afford (in various ways) to go to the whole thing, I > thought > someone here might know which days are being used for the PythonUK > conference. Or, looking at it another way, when is Guido giving his > keynote? > Python is Wednesday and Thursday at present. I guess Guido will be one of those days two other keynote speakers have been changed around and I am not 100% sure as of today. It's my job to write up a separate Python page and I really ought to do it about now, so consider me 'reminded' ;-) I'll at least post the tentative schedule here on this list by tomorrow. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Turbogears
Doug Bromley wrote: > Oh dear. I've been investing lots of time recently in Rails. Now I > find out TG is just as good and its in the language I know. My own 2p worth is that Django is also excellent and 'does what it says on the tin'. Unfortunately it was sufficiently good that my resolution to do the same app in both and give them equal learning time fizzled out halfway. In particular Django's admin interface ROCKS - it saved weeks on a project already and wowed a customer. - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] UK Python Conference - 19-22 April 2006
The ACCU is once again hosting a UK Python Conference on the above dates at the Randolph Hotel in Oxford. Sign up now. http://www.accu.org/index.php/conferences/2006/schedule PROGRAMME = I am happy to announce that Guido van Rossum is once again a keynote speaker for the entire ACCU conference. Following his keynote we have a single, 2-day Python track on Wednesday and Thursday including... Steve Holden: The Best of PyCon Michael Hudson: Error Handling with Recovery Phil Thompson: PyQT 4 Michael Hudson: PyPy - a progress report Simon Willison: Django Remi Delon: CherryPy and TurboGears Chris Withers: Templating systems Andy Robinson: Metadata and models in Python Andrew Thompson: Financial Programming in Python ...and of course lightning talks and BOFS will be welcome Friday will feature a Dynamic Languages track with in-depth talks on Javascript, Ruby and Groovy, which I am sure will be of great interest to Python developers. PRE CONFERENCE PYTHON TUTORIAL: === John Pinner will be giving a full day "Python for Programmers" tutorial on Tuesday prior to the main event. This tutorial is aimed at programmers who have no previous knowledge of Python but who would like to know more about it. If you want to convert your colleagues, this is where to send them ABOUT THE ACCU CONFERENCE = For those not familiar with the event, the ACCU conference is one of the foremost gatherings of programming talent in the world, regularly featuring authors and major figures from the C/C++/C#/Java/Python and other communities.The cheapest way to attend is to join the ACCU This will be the LAST CHANCE to attend this fantastic event; after more than 5 years of being nurtured by the ACCU, the UK Python community will hopefully be organising a standalone conference in future years. Python talks will continue to be welcome (and we hope numerous) on the ACCU programme, but not as an advertised "mini-conference"; instead we'll be shifting focus to dynamic languages in general. Best Regards, Andy Robinson ACCU Conference Committee ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK Python Conference - 19-22 April 2006
Matthew Webber wrote: > Andy, > That looks like a great programme, but I note from the website that the > early bird registration discount is only available till 10th February. It > would be great if that were a typo and that they in fact meant 10th March! > Matthew I know the organisers have extended it and I believe it was a bit later - I'll find out and get back to you. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK Python Conference - 19-22 April 2006
> Andy> I know the organisers have extended it and I believe it was > Andy> a bit later - I'll find out and get back to you. > > My understanding was that their server went down on the last day of > the early bird registration period, so they extended it to the > following Monday (13th). I heard back from the organiser that it was extended again to 24th in the end, again because the server wasn't working; apparently they emailed previous attendees and ACCU members about this, but I have been on holiday most of February and wasn't in the loop. I must admit that if I had engaged my brain about conference marketing in January we could probably have given people the chance. In any event I have asked about a 'package deal' for the two Python days and hope to find out tomorrow if they can do anything. Best Regards, Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] UK Python Conference - 19-22 April 2006
Fuzzyman wrote: > I'd certainly be interested - but £160 a day is outside my budget. :-( > > Looks like a fantastic programme. This has always been the problem with the ACCU event and sadly not one I can fix. Luckily EuroPython is cheap and not too far off, which is the budget alternative and will as always have a fantastic programme... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python, VB math simple problem
> Ideally, I'd love to be able to simply have some extremely small > executable that just accepts inputs > does the calculations above and then spits out the outputs. If it were > possible to write some > simple lines of math code in Python and then compile these scripts in > Python to a Windows > compatible executable,that would be fantastic. You can use py2exe (www.py2exe.org) to create an executable, but it won't be tiny. If you slim down the imported modules to what you need which is minimal, I'd be surprised if it ended up less than 2Mb. It is, however, effortless. You might find it easier to expose your function as a COM server, which is also very easy in Python and py2exe will again let you make a slimmed down distribution. This way there will be no startup overhead of shelling out every time. At the risk of being cheeky, let me say that the book Mark Hammond and I wrote in 2000, Python Programming on Win32, was aimed exactly at people with a VB background and covers the integration possibilities you'll need in a lot of detail. The same info is available more briefly in tutorials in the Pythonwin online help. The main thing which changes since then is having py2exe and Python zip archives to make it all easier to deploy. Good luck, Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] i like to come down to U.K
shoola mike wrote: > Dear Tim Couper , > I wouldlike to request you to register me for your > 2006: Python UK Conference 2006 (Oxford, UK)Incase > registration fee is needed I kindly request to pay > after getting the Visa.This is so because my > Country-Nigeria, is not Visa-free. > > Secondly,I kindly request for an official invitation > letter. Hope to hear from you soon. > Kind regards, I regret to inform you that (a) it's too late, the conference is 100% sold out and starts next week (b) our policy is only to grant visa letters for people with a proven track record of contributing to verifiable software projects, due to large numbers of fraudulent claims. Best Regards, Andy Robinson ACCU Conference Committee ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] I'm not going to the ACCU conference
Michael Hudson wrote: > Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>I didn't get myself organised to sign up for the conference this year, >>but does anyone fancy an evening meet-up for a drink and/or food >>somewhere in Oxford outside the confines of the conference venue? > > > Sure! When is good for you? Wednesday night is the "Blackwells > reception", don't know what that is or how long it's likely to go on > for, Thursday night has a couple of mystery sessions at the end of the > day of unclear length and Friday has the dinner... Blackwells' drinks budget is not infinite and I guess it will end by 20:00 latest. Whichever evening you want I suggest any non-delegates come to the hotel bar (just inside entrance) between 19:30-20:00 and Pythonistas gather there before going out for food... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London 2.0 rc5
Simon Brunning wrote: > Sam Newman has organised London 2.0 rc5 for the evening of May the 3rd > at The Olde Bank Of England, 194 Fleet Street, London EC4A 2LT. The > demos at rc4 were 100% Python related, so the PSUs cunning plan to > infiltrate and take over these events is clearly running to schedule. Thanks for this, Simon! After various discussions at ACCU I am hoping to start organising a few evening Python talks for the not-yet-converted; May 3rd would be the perfect timing to conspire on this. > BTW, if you are using Google Calendar > (<http://www.google.com/calendar/>), I've set up a public Calendar > called "London Python", into which I'll put any London based Python > related events I come across. No results for the search just yet. Maybe they cache stuff, will try again later... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London 2.0 rc5
> In the meantime, a workaround is to paste Simon's RSS link (below) into > the "Public Calendar Address" tab of the "Add other calendar" function. Yup, that works...thanks. Google Calendar is very cool. (he says being dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century...) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python meetup on the 12th
Two more of us on the way, don't all go home - Andy -Original Message- From: Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:00:00 To:UK Python Users Subject: Re: [python-uk] London Python meetup on the 12th Aargh... pressure of life and all that, and I can't make it. I hope you guys have (are having) a good time without me. :-( Michael http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml Fuzzyman wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [python-uk] London Python meetup on the 12th > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:42:04 +0100 > From: Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: UK Python Users > To: UK Python Users > References: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On 7/10/06, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Simon Brunning wrote: >> >>> Venue TBC, but it'll be central London somewhere. >>> >> Is the venue chosen yet ? >> > > It is now. > > The Stage Door, 30 Webber St, Waterloo, London SE1 8QA > > See <http://tinyurl.com/ko27s>. > > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Full time developer position, London
ReportLab builds state-of-the-art technology for document generation in Python, and develops solutions around this for major blue-chip clients. ReportLab offers a chance to work on world-beating technology with very high quality mentors, a first class customer base and enormous potential for growth. We are now building a new generation of applications to publish PDF on demand for specific vertical markets using our own core products. These will let end users log in and manage data and templates through the web. They will need flexible admin interfaces to let customers enter and approve data, well thought out designs for business logic prior to publishing with our own PDF products. We aim to make use of the very latest and best ideas in web development to help create value for our customers and a scalable business model for ourselves. We're looking for a good all-rounder to join our team and work on this, as well as many other projects. The ideal candidate will either be a graduate or have up to 3 years experience and several of these skills: * Python programming - or enough evidence of skill elsewhere to persuade us you can learn it quickly * Understanding of web frameworks, databases, XML. Django experience is a plus * know CSS and HTML * have an eye for visual design * know Javascript beyond the usual form validation (Ajax a plus) * have the common sense to know when coding is NOT the answer * good analysis skills - the ability to listen to customers, figure out where the value lies, and help decide what to build in the first place You must have native-quality written English, good aptitude for programming, and an ability to Get Things Done. You will get responsibilities which are not possible in large companies including a chance to work with the latest and best technologies; to see substantial, cutting-edge projects from commencement to delivery with world class clients; and to help design and roll out entire software services with fantastic upside potential. --- To apply, find the Careers page on our website and follow the instructions. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London 2.0 tomorrow
Very sorry I won't be able to make this one - a real pity as I have a bunch of questions for Mr. Huggins, but probably a relief for him ;-) - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] List now limited to subscribers...
I changed the list settings to restrict posting to members only. Hopefully Mr. BCS Outdoor will no longer be able to mail us his new address a few dozen times. We'll see in a minute or so ;-) This is very strange as I thought I had set it this way years ago. Would anyone else be willing to be a list admin too? I am often away or too busy, and it might be a good idea if there were a couple of others. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, London SW 19 1NE, Unite Kingdom tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] List now limited to subscribers...
Simon Brunning wrote: > > I'm game. > Thanks Simon, you're now an admin ;-) -- Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Many apologies...
Tim Golden wrote: > My many apologies to the denizens of the > python-uk mailing list. I went on leave just > as my company changed name, and I didn't > realize they were going to send out an > irritating reply to any incoming emails. > > I've unsubscribed from that address now, > so sorry again for blighting your New Year > with a rash of unsightly HTML mails! > No worries - at least we had double-digit traffic for a brief while ;-) - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] PyCamp UK !
>> Oh is this the IronPython book? Cool :) >> >> > Yup. Just completed the first draft of chapter 2. Already behind > schedule. :-) No worries, IronPython itself took a while AFAIR ;-) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] PyCamp UK !
> I'm not sure August is actually the best time for people in the UK either - > since so many people go away then. My feeling is that the best time would be > sometime in early September - either 1/2 Sept or 8/9th Sept. > +1. Especially after August. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] [Ann] New user group
We are just starting a new user group in the Northwest here called NorWeb, that has quite a python component to it: http://norweb.cnuk.org/about/ Next chat is on the 16th about Django http://norweb.cnuk.org/ Welcome one and all. -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] [Ann] New user group
Thanks, yeah we are actually posted on there and even wonder at this point if we need a seperate user group :) Thats what a bit of the user group meeting will be about. > You might want to consider a crosslinking between the Geekup and > NorWeb sites. > (Geekup is also a northwest user group and people have been coming > from > across the northwest, so some loose co-ordination would probably a > nice > idea :) > > I'm sure Andrew & Dan would think its a good idea. > >* http://geekup.org/ > > The next meet is on the 13th. I won't be there unfortunately > because I'll be > at a rehearsal - http://www.mugss.org/show/ . > > There's also a (free) jobs board there, which would probably a good > idea to > link to: >* http://jobboard.geekup.org/ > > Just taken a look and there 2 jobs specific to Merseyside posted, > so it'd > probably be a good idea :) > > I'll try and come along to a future meet if possible :) Cool -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] [Ann] New user group
> It says the 15th on the web? > > http://norweb.cnuk.org/category/events/ My apologies. As ever (well occasionally) the web is correct and my monday addled brain is incorrect. -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Yet Another UK Python Conference
I just spoke to John Pinner at Clocksoft on the phone - he's been off email for a couple of days and hasn't seen this thread. He and others in the Midlands have been planning a UK event for a long time, and have venues lined up at around the same time - September (!). There is a meeting of some West Midlands user group on 24 Feb at which it will be discussed. Apparently he will see Michael Sparks at an event tomorrow so hopefully they can figure out how to space these things out. My 2p worth is that it would be great to have multiple events dotted around the country, especially if we can space them out a bit and none are so big that they knacker the organisers. John, please ack if/when you get this through the mailing list - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] [Ann] New user group
Reminder, meeting is tonight. On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:41, Andy McKay wrote: > We are just starting a new user group in the Northwest here called > NorWeb, that has quite a python component to it: > > http://norweb.cnuk.org/about/ > > Next chat is on the 16th about Django > > http://norweb.cnuk.org/ > > Welcome one and all. > -- >Andy McKay -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Python evening talks in London
Hi all, Yet another London-centric suggestion. Apologies to the rest of the country. I've been talking to a friend who is discovering the joys of Python, and is a committee member of the Institute of Engineering and Technology (www.theiet.org) He believes we could get rooms in their place, which is next to the Savoy, to hold evening talks followed by networking over a drink or two. They have a distinguished location with rooms for anything from 20 up to 200 and he believes it could cost little or nothing to the visitors. The general idea would be a talk on some Python-related subjects, libraries or frameworks, about once a month, which can reach a wider network of developers than usually turn up for the pub sessions. People would be encouraged to bring laptops (Wifi available) and try out whatever's being talked about, so if they discovered a few useful libraries for a task, they could put them to work next day; and experience Pythonistas could advise newbies. A proposal is needed to their committee by end of this month. So, - who'd find something like this useful? - who'd like to give talks, and on what? - who'd like to hear talks, and on what? - who'd bring colleagues along? - any thoughts on format, target audience and so on I understand the start would be a few months off. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 the Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK tel +44-20-8544-8049 mobile +44-7725-056175 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London
Michael Foord wrote: > There are lots of banks, hedge funds and other companies that now > develop with Python. It would be nice to find a way of reaching them > (and finding out what they would like to learn about). Perhaps spamming > all the London companies that advertise on the Python job board ? That's definitely one of the target audiences. I have a talk in mind to do with general "numeric plumbing" - getting numbers in and out of Excel, from web services and so on - which I think would be appealing to this sector. I cooked up this idea with Thoughtworks last April because they actually consult for a lot of these firms, and was hoping to do an initial one last summer but it never came off. They are plugged into a lot of these places. I'm pretty sure those on this list could tell half a dozen banks. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London
> I start there on Monday, so I'll see if I can make something happen. ;-) I didn't want to ask, but congratulations! - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python evening talks in London: Ten lines of code
Michael Grazebrook wrote: > @Tim > Nobody has volunteered off-line. I reckon you volunteered! Thanks. I'm > going to try to persuade Andy Robinson to do 10 minutes if I can, but > he's on holiday this week. Oi. It's a BUSINESS TRIP. Never mind that I am with the tourist board of an exotic tropical island, the story is that I am working ;-) But sadly, I'm also away the week of the 11th :-( Nevertheless I ams sure we can find a good speaker or two. I'll help recruit next week if not sorted by then. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python lecture series
> WE Can act fast enough! A speaker cancelled for the 11th April. Michael, I'd love to help with a talk, but am travelling at that time. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Short notice Python meetup next week, anyone?
On 19/04/07, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon Brunning wrote: > > http://announce.londonpython.org.uk/2007/04/19/snap-python-meetup/ > > > > > Sounds great. I *might* be able to make it, depending on book pressures... > Ditto (except for *book*) - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] python training
On 24/04/07, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/23/07, David Bole @ Neueda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simon > > can you recommend any UK based Python trainers ? > > Sorry, no - but I'm sure someone on the UK list will... > John Pinner's firm runs courses regularly and I have heard very good things about them...I think he's on this list too http://clocksoft.co.uk/training - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] [Fwd: FW: [lymc] FW: IET Professional Registration Workshops]
On 04/05/07, Michael Grazebrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Green light for us giving a Python lecture - and possibly more - at the IET. Well done Michael! Let me know if I can help.. - Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Developers wanted, Troon Scotland
On 14/06/07, David Irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope this is not perceived as a bad thing to do in this list - if it > is sorry in advance. I think it's a perfect thing to do on this list. I'm overemployed personally, but good luck -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK
On 15 Jun 2007, at 10:27, Richard Lewis wrote: > Hello Pythonistas, > > Has anyone else registered for PyCon UK in Birmingham in September? I quite fancy it. I'm a Perl guy though - so people might think I'm spying :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] remove
On 03/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please remove this link > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-uk/2006-December/001007.html > I'm sorry but I do not have the ability to modify the archives (and the list has already been mirrored to many other servers). I can only regulate who posts to the list. Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Announcing the Python North West mailing list
On 10 Sep 2007, at 19:18, Giacomo Lacava wrote: > On the wave of the great time we had at Pycon, it was decided we > should have a proper mailing list dedicated to North-West-based Python > users... so here it comes! > > The list is open to everyone in the area who loves > coding/playing/enjoying Python. To join, you don't need to know your > django from your pylons or your pyqt from your wxwindows... and > certainly you don't need to pronounce WSGI. Don't worry, it's going to > be uber-informal and very low-traffic, and I promise we won't use > lolcats (not much anyway). Two questions: does Cumbria count as North West and is a Perl guy allowed to sit in? :) (for what it's worth I'm a Perl person who's completely opposed to any kind of language based apartheid. I know Python hardly at all but I like what I see) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Announcing the Python North West mailing list
On 10 Sep 2007, at 19:56, Giacomo Lacava wrote: > Well, you already subscribed to the Python-UK list, and Cumbria is > usually considered North-West, so I don't see how you wouldn't belong > :) Cool :) > (just don't try to make me use Perl, my brain is not big enough!) Nobody's is :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Wednesday, October the 10th
On 18/09/2007, Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ThoughtWorks UK (my employer) have given us the use of a room this > > time, so I'm looking for volunteer speakers, too. > > I'm in. Happy to give a talk, too. (WMI, active directory, win32 sort of > stuff). > Me too, I'm around then. I have a talk if you want - probably 30min worth. We're building some very neat "personalised publishing" solutions for the travel sector - build your own travel guide or personalised brochures in real time. These are all done on a Django platform, which would give me an excuse to share tips/tricks/headaches on web frameworks and content management as well as ReportLab's document generation tools. Fairly high "wow" factor and lots of pics of tropical beaches, could be as technical or not as you like ;-) Andy Robinson, ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python meetup, Wednesday, October the 10th
Simon Brunning wrote: > ThoughtWorks UK (my employer) have given us the use of a room this > time, so I'm looking for volunteer speakers, too. > > Details here: > <http://announce.londonpython.org.uk/2007/09/18/london-python-meetup-wednesday-october-the-10th/>. > Can't make it, dammit. For the first time in three years I'm in the country when there is a meet up. Sadly I'll be nowhere near the smoke. Regards Andy -- From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com/ ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] [pyconuk] London Python meetup, Wednesday, October the 10th
On 09/10/2007, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a reminder - the London Python meetup is on for tomorrow evening. > I have Tim Golden down to tell us about WMI, Andy Robinson to talk > about "personalised publishing" using Django, plus quickies from Giles > Thomas on Resolver and Chris Miles on PSI. > I'm very sorry but it looks like I will be unable to make it tomorrow due to some unexpected but serious work deadlines that have emerged in the last 2 days. I'm hoping the others can talk more slowly and in more detail or someone else can speak, but if this forces you into the pub early, my apologies! I'll be ready to give this one again at some future date. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Python Web Application Developer
Blue Fountain is looking for a web application developer. At least one year experience of developing a variety of web application systems in an open source environment is required. Two would be helpful. We build and maintain systems using open source technologies, especially Python (Zope, Plone, Django), Rails, PostgreSQL, Linux and Apache. Knowledge of HTML, CSS, Ajax and some web standards are essential. Knowledge of some of the tools languages is helpful, but not essential, you will be in an environment to learn and grow. The most powerful tool you'll be using is Google. More info: http://www.bluefountain.com/about/recruitment-information -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Web Application Developer
On 18 Oct 2007, at 17:15, Giacomo Lacava wrote: > On 18/10/2007, Andy McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Blue Fountain is looking for a web application developer. > > thanks Andy, your HR needs a spell-checker too ;) "Web Appplication" Thanks, gosh darn it there's always something :) > this said, I'll probably apply... Cheers! -- Andy McKay ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Anyone alive
> Well then hello both Tim & Michael. What are the toics for tomorrow's > meeting Tim? It was last night while this thread was going on. Several mini talks at Thoughtworrks office, very well attended, I skipped the pub afterwards but at least 30 people headed that way... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Vacancies at ReportLab
ReportLab are the oldest Python company in the UK (we started this mailing list!). We maintain an open source library for PDF and chart generation with thousands of downloads per month, sell software to make document generation easy, and create hosted services to let businesses publish on demand. Due to growth in popularity for our services, we have a number of positions available, with immediate effect. I know this is a Python list, but feel free to tell friends about the non-developer positions. Junior web developer: === This is ideally suited to a recent graduate. You will be delivering hosted solutions for our customers, including major blue chip clients in travel and financial services. You can expect to gain fantastic experience in Python, Django, SQL, XML, HTML+CSS and generally all the tools of modern web development. Developer: === You should have general web development experience, an ability to know the difference between a good API and a bad one, be happy to talk to customers and work out what to build in the first place, and be able to communicate your ideas clearly in writing. You will get the chance both to architect our client solutions and the underlying framework. Skill set is same as above. You should either be proficient in Python, or smart enough to learn fast. Manager - Travel Projects and Solutions & Manager - Financial Projects and Solutions === We need people to handle key customer relationships and ensure the development and promotion of our platforms in these areas.You should have a background in some project-related function (we'd consider print or marketing as well as IT), attention to detail, good writing skills, large amounts of common sense and an enthusiasm for technology. You will get to deliver solutions through their full life cycle, and to define and help promote the products which will let us scale up in these markets. All positions are in our office in Wimbledon, South-West London. All applications must be able to express their thoughts very clearly in writing. There is a possibility of some travel to client sites worldwide (clients include luxury resorts and tropical island tourist authorities!) For further information see http://www.reportlab.com/careers.html Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Favourite ways of scrubbing HTML/whitelisting specific HTML tags?
On 07/02/2008, Alexander Harrowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To clarify, I use BeautifulSoup for a small project that parses frequently > changing HTML on a number of websites (>1MB each), extracts the content of > specific tags, filters out certain strings from the content, and serves it > up in a consistent format. The input HTML comes from the wild, and often > contains odd tags, funny characters, and other inconsistencies. > > It has so far worked near-perfectly for the last 9 months. Speed appears to > be a conventional problem with BS, which is why I mentioned it, but when I > analysed the code in an effort to speed it up I discovered that 90%+ of the > time taken was accounted for by network latency in getting the data from the > remote sites. > FWIW, we parse tens of thousands of pages every week to build let people republish content into nice PDFs. Beautiful Soup was the only thing that made this sane, as many pages are not structured to be easy to parse. Like you we found the network was the limit, and simply kicking off several scraping processes in parallel solved that (e.g. one run of a script parses hotels from A-F, the next from G-M and so on...). I can't imagine using anything else. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python training in London
2008/4/29 John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We've certainly trained people like this, ie intelligent > non-developers, and it's never been a problem. Much easier to train > than non-intelligent developers. Get that off to comp.lang.python quick, it must be a QOTW ;-) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] invalid syntax
On 21 Jul 2008, at 15:38, suhail shaik wrote:
##
#!/usr/bin/python
#Globals here
ROOTDIR = "/home/qmss2/Desktop/sbd/hive2_ffmpegsvn/" # Root dir
where ts files are located (or recorded)
PNAME = "/data/test/"
#DAILY_UPLOAD_PATH = "/mmis-ss9952/newsroom/du-dev/"
import os,glob
### MAIN ###
os.chdir(ROOTDIR)
os.mkdir("kf")
os.chdir(PNAME)
for fileName in glob.glob('*.mpg'):
print filename
file = fileName.split(".")
print file
os.chdir(ROOTDIR+"/kf")
os.mkdir(file)
command = "./hive2 -k kf/"+file+"/ -o "+file+".xml /data/
test/"+fileName
print command
os.system(command)
#
i get the following error...
File "/home/qmss2/Desktop/sbd/mpg.py", line 13, in
print filename
NameError: name 'filename' is not defined
Variables are case sensitive - so fileName and filename are not the
same thing.
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[python-uk] Looking for developers daahn saarf
Hi everyone, Forgive me for paraphrasing Doug, he's saved me some valuable thinking time ;-).I will assume his excellent email is under an "open source" license. We're also looking for some more Python developers to join our team. We're an Agile Python shop, maintaining very widely used open source libraries to generate PDF documents, and building solutions to publish content in real time for major blue-chip customers.We use Django alongside an extensive set of tools of our own. Our website is also woefully out of date (although we hope to have a new one out in 2-3 weeks) but http://travel.reportlab.com/ will show you some of the kinds of apps we are delivering in just one industry sector. We're based in lovely Wimbledon, and right now we are 8 people. We're looking for 2 mid-level developers who have the common sense and communication skills to deal with clients as well as writing code, within an agile environment. Some experience of a project environment, whether work-related or open-source, is desirable. Clearly this list is for Python folks, but we value people above skills and we don't mind your background. If you'd like to know more, please just call or email me. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. 165 The Broadway, Wimbledon, London SW19 1NE, UK Tel +44-20-8544-8049 p.s. Ditto about agencies. Our staff are trained to screen out agency callers in a variety of bizarre and amusing ways. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1
2009/5/7 John Pinner : > But if you are developing new software you should be using Python 3, > ready for when it becomes the default in Linux distributions (already > it is, in Ubuntu 9.04). I just did a clean install of Ubuntu desktop 9.04 2 days ago, and typing 'python' brings up 2.6.2.I have to type 'python3' to get Python 3.0. So I'm not sure what "the default" means. Otherwise I fully agree (but still dread upgrading ten years worth of code...) - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1
2009/5/7 Shaun Laughey : > Hi Andy didn't you start a while ago? We've dabbled and done a private port of the open source toolkit using 2-to-3, which sort of works except that PIL is not yet available for 3.0 and that's a major issue for many users. We also build a ton of solutions on Django. So we're kind of waiting for those two to get ported. Also we can't sanely do what Guido wants and release/maintain a library with the same APIs across 2.3,24,2.5,2.6,2.7,3.0,3.1 etc. I just don't see any "ROI". I'm much more interested in doing a backwards-incompatible "reportlab3" where we clear out our own decade of clutter and make proper use of the distinction between text and bytes; we have a clear design in our heads for this. But Guido didn't want people doing that a year ago. > Your codebase would become smaller and easier to maintain. The 3.x codebase, yes. But the total codebase would only shrink if all the users of all the solutions we have built on 2.x dropped dead, and we'll get the usual stream of new requirements for the old libraries indefinitely but that's the price of having a software business rather than a free-time project. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python events upcoming in the south/southeast
2009/5/8 Alec Muffett : > I am eagerly > waiting for a DJUGL or similar event down in my area The people who attend these things are probably going to be in detox for a while after this week's EuroDjangoCon in Prague - I dread to think how much beer went down there In fact if you can catch a flight now, the sprints might still be going on ;-) http://euro.djangocon.org/ - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] ReportLab is hiring - Wimbledon, SouthWest London
We're looking for up to two Python/web developers to join our team immediately.This is ideally suited to graduates or those with up to 2 years experience. Details and instructions here... http://www.reportlab.com/about/careers/#developer No agencies, please. Really, don't even bother. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. Media House, 3 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 1PG, UK ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] [ANN] August London Pyssup
Next Wednesday is the 3rd Wednesday of the month so it's time for another London Python pub meet. July's meetup was well attended and a great success so we'd like to continue each month on a regular schedule. Time: Wednesday 19th August, from 7pm Venue: The George[1] (opposite and along from last month's venue). If you have any Python-curious friends or colleagues, bring them along too. Get there whenever you like, me and Stephen will battle London traffic and try and get there as close to 7pm as possible. We'll display the usual can-o-spam in case the gaggle of geeks in the corner isn't enough of a giveaway. Look forward to seeing you there, Andy Kilner & Stephen Emslie [1] http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/72/728/George/Temple ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] September London Pyssup (was Reminder: London Code Dojo this Thursday...)
Just a note to say that there won't be the regular London Python Meetup this month on the 16th (this Wednesday) due to the Dojo taking place instead (on Thursday). Expect the normal schedule to recommence next month on the 3rd Wednesday (unless something better comes along again). Hope to see people at the Dojo and drinks afterwards. Andy 2009/9/14 Nicholas Tollervey : > Guys, > > Sign up here: > > http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4391294/ > > The details: > > 6:30PM for a 7:30PM start of the Dojo > > What is a code dojo..? > > http://ntoll.org/article/code-dojo > > The proposed project will be creating a social graph using the twitter API. > > Nearest Tubes: > Waterloo > Southwark > > Address: > Fry-IT Limited > 503 Enterprise House > 1/2 Hatfields > London SE1 9PG > Telephone: > 0207 0968800 > > Google Map: > > http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1%2F2+Hatfields,+London,+SE1+9PG&sll=51.507954,-0.107825&sspn=0.007439,0.022724&ie=UTF8&ll=51.508235,-0.107825&spn=0.007439,0.022724&z=16&iwloc=A > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Google Wave
2009/10/19 Anand Kumria : >> Would anybody have a spare invite then? To h.due...@gmail if possible. > Likewise if anyone else has a spare invite. Me too please!andy at rep*rtlab d*t c*m Thanks, -- Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect ReportLab Europe Ltd. Media House, 3 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 1PG, UK Tel +44-20-8545-1570 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] ANN: Next London Pyssup: Wednesday 18th Nov
Next Wednesday is the 3rd Wednesday of the month so it's time for another London Python pub meet. Time: Wednesday 18th Nov, from 7pm Venue: The George[1] It's back to The George which will be hosting a beer festival that week. As usual, Python veterans, Py-curious, Perl rejects and Clojure wannabes all welcome. We'll display a can of spam or something suitably geeky so you can pick us out from the crowd. See you there, Andy Kilner & Stephen Emslie [1] http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/72/728/George/Temple ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] ANN: Next London Pyssup: Wed 20 Jan - Welcome to MMX!
Ay up, Just a reminder that we're having a London Python pub meet (#pyssup) this Wednesday from 7pm at the Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese on Fleet Street. Come and share your war stories and show off your battle wounds, and maybe plot adventure game scenarios for the next Python dojo. Details below and at http://twtvite.com/dqh98e for those of us with a web 2.0 addiction. Hope to see you there. Cheers, Andy & Steve 2010/1/11 Stephen Emslie : > This month's London Pyssup will take place at the Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese on > Fleet street. It's a Sam Smiths pub so should be easy on the post Christmas > wallet. It has a nice vaulted cellar and plenty of atmosphere. > > The Pyssup is an informal monthly meetup for anyone interested in Python or > programming in general. > > There's an open area by the downstairs bar where we can gather. Can of spam > or similarly Python related items/clothing will be on display but the lack > of suits should be enough of a givaway. > Time: Jan 20 2010, 7pm - 11pm > Venue: > http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/1513/Ye_Olde_Cheshire_Cheese/Fleet_Street > > See you there > Stephen Emslie and Andy Kilner > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] March Pyssup
Quick reminder all, for those of you not out on the Guiness tomorrow night, we'll be meeting at the Chandros near Traf Square. There's plenty of Python themed events coming up on the calendar so much to discuss, including the next dojo, pyweek and europython. The officially unofficial start is 7pm but I might be eager and turn up early at 6.30 or as soon as I can get there. Details at: http://twtvite.com/ddm6ys Hope to see you there, Andy On 13 March 2010 14:11, Stephen Emslie wrote: > psst... > > Pythonistas > This month's London Pyssup will take place this Wednesday the 17th at > Chandos near Trafalgar Square. It's a Sam Smiths pub again so as not to > clash with revellers of St Guinness day, but in case it gets particularly > busy you will be able to find us downstairs till at least 8pm, after which > we may move around. > As usual, we're on twtvite: http://twtvite.com/ddm6ys and the hashtag is > #pyssup. Here's the pub: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/65/657/ > The Pyssup is an informal monthly meetup for anyone interested in Python or > programming in general. > > Can of spam or similarly Python related items/clothing will be on display to > identify us if it wasn't already apparent. > > See you there > Stephen Emslie and Andy Kilner > > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] emacs and python and emacs-starter-kit
You'll both be at the pyssup tonight so you can go and form a little emacs corner somewhere the cellar maybe? On 17 March 2010 13:35, Menno Smits wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > I use both python-mode.el and ropemacs. The aren't > exclusive. python-mode.el provides (imperfect) syntax highlighting, > Python indentation, pdbtrack and other goodies. ropemacs > gives some powerful refactoring tools. > > If you want to look, my Emacs config is at the Mercurial repo here: > http://freshfoo.com/repos/config/trunk/ > (look under the emacs/.emacs.d directory) > > It's browesable here: > http://freshfoo.com/hg/config/trunk/file/165cdccf341e/emacs > > All Python dependencies used by the Emacs config (eg. Pymacs, > ropemacs) are included in the config tree and loaded from > there. There's no need to install extra Python modules. > > Let me know if you have any suggestions or more specific > questions. I'm always looking to improve my setup. > > Regards, > Menno > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 03:26:45PM +, Bruce Durling wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I know from a number of python dojos that most of you don't use emacs, but I >> thought there might be some people lurking out there who might have an >> opinion on this. >> >> I'm currently using emacs-starter-kit [1] for my emacs set up having had >> .emacs files for .emacs.d directories lovingly handcrafted (or copy and >> pasted from emacswiki.org) with thousands of lines (though many of them were >> skeleton templates. >> >> While I really like emacs-starter-kit, the python support is poor. It also >> seems like there are a number of different ways for python to be supported >> in emacs (python-mode.el, python.el, ropemacs). >> >> Does anyone have any configurations or cool emacs python tips that they want >> to share? I'd like to look into improving the python support in >> emacs-starter-kit and I'd be interested in getting some suggestions. >> >> cheers, >> Bruce >> >> >> 1. http://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit > >> ___ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python? Brighton is active
The plan is for a Pyssup on the 18th, Pub TBD (and approved by Bruce). Come along, the more the merrier, especially anyone with good stories from europython! Will announce it officially next week. Andy On 4 August 2010 09:09, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: > Hi Ian, > > I usually post details on this mailing list a couple of weeks before the next > dojo. The pattern is that they take place on the first Thursday of every > month (except August). You need to sign-up at an EventBrite site (only so we > know how much pizza/beer to get in for the social thing at the start). > Nevertheless, given the interest in a co-ordinated UK-Python website I'd love > to be able to add information and dates on there. So, for the time being just > monitor this list. > > We try to make the dojo technical, educational, hands-on and fun. Perhaps see > you at the next one..? ;-) > > Nicholas. > > On 3 Aug 2010, at 18:00, Ian Ozsvald wrote: > >> Hi NIcholas, thanks for the reply (and private copy of the Dojo >> presentation). >> >> I've tweeted at @gnublade (we met at a PyCon a couple of years back), >> it looks like Pyssup has been quiet for a couple of months, maybe >> there will be another meet. >> >> I'm less interested in the web-dev stuff (but it is good to know >> there's a whole group for it!). Re. the Dojo could be cool, I haven't >> done one of those before. Is there a twitter account/mailing list so I >> can keep track of upcoming events? >> >> Cheers, >> Ian. >> >> On 2 August 2010 09:33, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: >>> Hi Ian, >>> >>> There are four London Python meets that I know of: >>> >>> * Pyssup - organised by Andy Kilner, a social "drinks" evening for Python >>> devs. >>> * DJUGL - Django User Group London - organised by Gareth Rushgrove, does >>> exactly what it says on the tin >>> * City/Python/Financial User Group - organised by ???, not sure if they >>> still meet but targets Python devs working in the City in the financial >>> sector >>> * London Python Code Dojo - coordinated by me but sort of spontaneously >>> organises itself. The next meeting is 2nd September and I'll post details >>> to this list. I'm pretty certain we'd love to see your talking head..! >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Nicholas. >>> >>> On 2 Aug 2010, at 09:22, Ian Ozsvald wrote: >>> >>>> Down in Brighton we've recently had two Python meets: >>>> http://brightonpy.org/archive/ >>>> >>>> Are there any London meets? I'd be happy to wander up and meet some >>>> Python folk and/or bring my robot head for a demo >>>> (http://blog.aicookbook.com/2010/06/building-a-face-tracking-robot-headroid1-with-python-in-an-afternoon/). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ian. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ian Ozsvald (A.I. researcher, screencaster) >>>> i...@ianozsvald.com >>>> >>>> http://IanOzsvald.com >>>> http://MorConsulting.com/ >>>> http://blog.AICookbook.com/ >>>> http://TheScreencastingHandbook.com >>>> http://FivePoundApp.com/ >>>> http://twitter.com/IanOzsvald >>>> ___ >>>> python-uk mailing list >>>> python-uk@python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >>> ___ >>> python-uk mailing list >>> python-uk@python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ian Ozsvald (A.I. researcher, screencaster) >> i...@ianozsvald.com >> >> http://IanOzsvald.com >> http://MorConsulting.com/ >> http://blog.AICookbook.com/ >> http://TheScreencastingHandbook.com >> http://FivePoundApp.com/ >> http://twitter.com/IanOzsvald >> ___ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python? Brighton is active
heh, actually I was more after a suggestion. We haven't been to the porter house in a while, how about there? On 4 August 2010 21:21, Bruce Durling wrote: > Andy, > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 13:17, Andy Kilner wrote: >> The plan is for a Pyssup on the 18th, Pub TBD (and approved by Bruce). > > You know I'm always happy with a pub near a tube station and real ale. ;-) > > (cheeky man) > > cheers, > Bruce > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Reminder: Pyssup python pub night this Wednesday 6:30pm
Hey all, Hope to see lots of you tonight for the pyssup, it's been a while but looking forward to it and also hearing about Europython. You can let us know you're coming (and therefore we'll look out for you) at http://twtvite.com/l2lf03 As an added incentive, the company I work for, More Associates, is seeking an additional developer: http://moreassociates.com/news/python-developer-sought/ Feel free to ask me about our work on CarbonCulture (just try to stop me talking about it) and the government's real-time energy displays: http://moreassociates.com/news/carbonculture-launches-initial-membership/ See you tonight, Andy On 23 August 2010 17:43, Stephen Emslie wrote: > Just a reminder for anyone who's planning on coming out for a few pints this > Wednesday. > This month's London Pyssup will take place at Porterhouse near Covent Garden > http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/36/366/Porterhouse/Covent_Garden > All the details, as well as calendar feeds, etc. are on the twtvite > page: http://twtvite.com/l2lf03 > Nearest tube stations are: Embankment, Charring Cross, Leicester Square, > Covent Garden. Can of spam or similarly Python related items/clothing will > be on display to identify us if it wasn't already apparent. > If you haven't been before, the Porterhouse is a large pub with just about > every type of beer you can think of available. Its quite large and gets > pretty busy, so we'll do our best to be visible to those that don't know > what we look like already. I'll try to remember the spam for once. > The Pyssup is an informal monthly meetup for anyone interested in Python or > programming in general. There are a few more formal meetups, but this one is > for people to get to know one another and find out more about any aspect of > python you happen to be interested in. > > > Stephen Emslie and Andy Kilner > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] ReportLab is hiring - Wimbledon
Hi everyone, ReportLab, one of the oldest Python shops in the UK, is looking for people in up to three different roles - typically graduates or those with up to 3 years commercial experience. * Software Development * Business Development / Marketing * Design / Information Architecture For more info and how to apply, see... http://www.reportlab.com/about/careers/ We'll also happily consider people who bridge the above job descriptions... Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. Media House, 3 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 1PG, UK Tel +44-20-8545-1570 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles
> Report Lab does a fair bit of work in the financial sector in a rather > different field. Sorry, the light took a while to reach the batcave tonight... I was pushing Python in finance back in 1997/8, and there have been many, many people using it (usually under the radar at first) in the City for a long time. In the old days it excelled at gluing systems together, scripting other peoples' C code, and prototyping algorithms. There were many times when people needed a solution faster than "IT" could organise it, and being freely available and able to work with Excel, it helped a lot of quants. Now, of course, Python is mainstream, and other languages have got a lot better at the 'glue' and web stuff and caught up to some degree. On 15 December 2010 14:02, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > On the other hand, if you're running across the > internet, then any slowdown due to using Python verses another language > would be vastly swamped by network and other IO delays. Am I very much > mistaken? There are no general answers to that question. There are indeed many cases where people needlessly worry about the language when network and IO dominate. There are also lots of cases where you want to do some kind of "atomic job" on one machine, and find it's an order of magnitude too slow in a high level language. There are some "Monte Carlo" approaches to pricing securities which have no analytic solution; and in the retail sector it's fashionable now to show 'clouds of outcomes' about where your pension might end up, needing 1 random walks to plot a chart and spit out a 2-3 page PDF including it. Two of the beauties of Python in this area are that (a) you can afford to rewrite your algorithm several times and be sure it's the best approach, and (b) if you really need to, it's easy to shift the 'inner loops' into C. Putting it in perspective, I even know some people in the City who find hand-coded C too slow for their simulations, and who are basically writing microcode for chips in order to put a supercomputer under their desk! The bigger question is whether all this horsepower ultimately leads to better investment performance. I will stay out of that one ;-) -- Andy Robinson ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles
I used to be the original list moderator. Many years back, I think we agreed that recruiters in moderation were OK, and I accept that some firms have reasons not to advertise directly. I have always felt that if people wanted to discuss technical stuff, they would tend to use comp.lang.python, StackOverflow or whatever to get the widest input. A UK list is pretty much here for meetups, local (including City) news and jobs, and maybe chitchat about 'who is using what'. The only possible worry might be that a Python employer might want to stop his employees seeing ads for other Python jobs nearby. On the other hand, if you're that paranoid or your developers are too dumb to find the Python Job Board, you're probably doomed anyway ;-) I would suggest that if any future recruiter were to start 'trawling for CVs' or overposting (and nothing I have seen here has worried me on that front), people reply with a '-1'; and if we get more than half a dozen the moderators can contact that recruiter and ask them nicely to stop, then ban if they persist. -- Andy Robinson ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] OT: Looking for an iPhone dev
On 20 December 2010 08:05, Simon Brunning wrote: > On 20 December 2010 01:19, Patrick Dempster > wrote: >> Perhaps its time for the list admin's, start blocking those who post these >> "job" adverts? python jobs I can sort of understand but this is getting >> silly. Or, we could take another tack: why don't the list members start a few more "on-topic" discussions to restore the balance? Hopefully things are a bit quieter in the office for the next few days... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Tell us what you did with Python this year....
As an attempt to generate some content and balance out the "jobs" discussion Why don't a few people here tell us what they got up to this year? Neat projects at work, things you learned about Python in 2010, things you've been playing with I'm having a mad day but will try to post mine tonight or tomorrow... - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Tell us what you did with Python this year....
On 20 December 2010 14:43, wrote: > Sadly I only got paid for some of it. The invoices are generated in Python > though. PDFs from ReportLab, I hope and trust? ;-) -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any interest?
On 13 October 2011 17:26, Harry Percival wrote: > Hi-ho python peeps, > > Would anyone be interested in a dojo / worksop on the topic of test-driven > Django development, with Selenium? > > So, trying to get an idea of numbers - would anyone be interested? London > area, venue suggestions also gratefully accepted... This could be highly relevant for us and of my clients. Possibly 5 people from us if the timing is right. Regrettably we don't have physical space for it right now (and are way outside the centre of London) -- Andy Robinson ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Dojo / workshop on "TDD Django with Selenium" - any interest?
We've been using Selenium for several years and have two fairly substantial test suites used for web applications, as well as Django's test client. I don't think we're doing anything particularly advanced, clever or 'Django-integrated', but we can certainly show some of this if needed and would be keen to compare notes on best practices, if the venue and dates work out. We've also just started to play with BrowserMob, which is a hosted testing service that can import selenium scripts, run tests for you regularly, run realistic load tests, and even send you screenshots of what went wrong if tests fail. It's pretty neat and you can play with it at modest levels at no charge. I should know a bit more by whenever the talk rolls around! -- Andy Robinson ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] ReportLab is hiring - Wimbledon
Hi everyone, We're hiring. http://www.reportlab.com/about/careers/ Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. Media House, 3 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 1PG, UK Tel +44-20-8545-1570 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Jobs at ReportLab, South West London
We're looking for up to two good all-rounders to join our team in Wimbledon, South West London. ReportLab is one of the oldest and best known Python companies in the UK. We maintain a very widely used open source library; sell commercial Python products on top of this; build web-based, content-backed systems to publish personalised literature; and do a full range of web development work for clients, many of whom are household names. We're interested both in people with years of experience and in talented beginners willing to learn fast. Ideallly you will have a good understanding of web technologies and some knowledge of several of the following skills: * Python programming - or evidence of ability to learn multiple languages* Good analysis skills - the ability to listen to customers, figure out where the value lies, and help decide what to build in the first place* Understanding of web frameworks, databases, XML* Know CSS, HTML and Javascript (an eye for visual design is a plus)* Have the common sense to know when coding is NOT the answer and the ability to communicate clearly with non-programmers* Common practices in agile, open-source-style development Our work covers the full stack from front-end through toserver-side development, in a modern open source environment. We usePython, Django and MySQL on all common platforms, jQuery and similarlibraries for rich interfaces, as well as our own products for PDFgeneration. We follow Agile processes where possible. We are very happy to mentor talented and committed peoole at the start of their programming career, and can offer an oustanding programming education, working alongside developers with decades of experience. We look for people who are smart, get things done and are good teamplayers, and strive to create an enjoyable working environment. All applicants must be able to communicate their ideas clearlyin written English, and to deal with customers from time to time.Salary range is between £21k and £30k depending on experience.Theposition is based in Wimbledon, London, UK. No remote working and noagencies, please. For more information see http://www.reportlab.com/ -- Please email your CV to vacanc...@reportlab.com Best Regards, Andy Robinson Managing Director, ReportLab Europe Ltd. ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] hexagonal Django
On 5 December 2012 07:33, Chris Withers wrote: > The closest thing I can think of is the move to the component architecture > that Zope did from v2 to v3; architecturally brilliant but actually killed > off the platform... ROTFL! I have to admit my first thought on reading that page and diagram was "architecture astronauts"... If you're building a system which will last many years and tie together a core business, AND it really needs a rich internal object model embodying "business rules", yes, maybe this approach is valid. A core ERP system or some kinds of financial modelling systems spring to mind. Basically, a project which can justify a core team of 3-6 people working on it long term. But if you really need a company database, and a variety of web front ends and interfaces to it including CRUD, and budgets/timescales are limited, then there are huge efficiency savings all round for trying to do things "by the book" in Django, and using models as your business objects. New developers know where to look for things, and a lot of so-called business rules are easily implemented by save methods and signals. And there are established best practices for testing. This week we had to help an overseas firm add a reporting capability to their Django app. They sent over a copy of the code, and their development practices were amazingly similar to ours, and we had it running in an hour or so. Everything was where you expected to find it. If we had needed to trace through 3-4 layers to understand where one factoid came from, life would be a lot harder. I do fully agree with having an agreed dependency graph. We will often centralize the 'non-Django' parts of an application as helper functions inside a python module, inputting and returning just primitive Python tests, and write unit tests for those. But that's more a matter of having a well written "utils.py" in an app than of reimplementing everything outside of your framework. Cooperating web services have also helped deal with the interfaces problem. Big hairy corporate systems are often broken down now into reasonable sized chunks that POST and GET to each other, so you don't need quite so many layers and adapters in the code of any one of them. Just my grumpy-old-man 2p worth. -- Andy Robinson ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] Python Developers - ReportLab, Wimbledon, London
ReportLab are one of oldest Python firms in the UK. We are looking for high-calibre individuals to join us in Wimbledon (South-West London), UK, for immediate start. Reportlab offers a chance to work on world-beating technology with very high quality mentors, a first class customer base and enormous potential for growth. We are looking for people who are smart, get things done and are good team players. We will consider people with extensive experience, as well as those at the start of their careers. All of the following skills are of interest - although we don't expect anyone to have all of them: * Python programming - or evidence of ability to learn multiple languages * Good analysis skills - the ability to listen to customers, figure out where the value lies, and help decide what to build in the first place * Understanding of web frameworks, databases, XML * CSS and HTML * Javascript programming * Have the common sense to know when coding is NOT the answer and the ability to communicate clearly with non-programmers * Common practices in agile, open-source-style development * Ubuntu or similar sysadmin experience * Design skills (web and/or print) * Mobile development (HTML5/tablet/handheld) Our work covers the full stack from front-end through to server-side development, in a modern open source environment. We use Python, Django and MySQL on all common platforms, jquery and similar libraries for rich interfaces, as well as our own products for PDF generation. In 2013 we expect to be working on.. * hosted systems to generate personalised documents and data graphics for clients * an exciting SAAS offering * our open source and commercial PDF libraries, used by thousands worldwide * major web applications for financial clients, including mobile development We are based in Wimbledon Village, in one of the nicest corners of London, with beautiful views and just 200m from Wimbledon Common. If you want to avoid the London commute, there are numerous options nearby. We also have showers and changing facilities on site and are just 200m from the common, for those who seek a healthy lifestyle. Salary range is £20k-£35k depending on experience. Please email a CV to vacanc...@reportlab.com. If you email me directly, you have failed in our trademarked "can this person follow simple instructions?" rapid screening process. If you don't have a CV up to date but are interested, please drop a note anyway as we will be interviewing before Christmas. Strictly no agencies, please. We will only talk to direct applicants. Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. Thornton House, Thornton Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 4NG, UK Tel +44-20-8405-6420 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Developers - ReportLab, Wimbledon, London
On 11 December 2012 10:51, Andy Robinson wrote: > We are looking for people who are smart, get > things done and are good team players. For all employers out there my HR guru goes to all the seminars on employment law, and is very current on what we can and cannot do. She has told me that our latest round of ads are wrong because explicitly asking for SMART people is discriminatory against THICK people. You can ask about skills, but not about innate characteristics like age or sex (which we all know), and apparently, now, brains. Anyone else heard this kind of total bollocks lately? ;-) - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Developers - ReportLab, Wimbledon, London
On 11 December 2012 11:45, Matt Hamilton wrote: > We just submitted a job ad to a University placement scheme site and there > was a whole load of info there about what you can and can't say. e.g. you > couldn't ask for someone 'energetic' as it implied ageism. *facepalm* I > remember a while back someone from aUniversity IT dept looking at me in > horror at our job advert. They said they had to ask *exactly* the same > questions of each candidate regardless of how the candidate answered or > whether relevant or not. Seemed to me impossible to actually assess someone's > ability or suitability if they were that strict. > Brilliant. I wonder if the same rules apply to students and academics they interview? ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Developers - ReportLab, Wimbledon, London
As the original poster, this has prompted me to check and I was quite surprised to see that average salaries have risen by 13% in the last year alone. However, to be clear 1. The salaries in these surveys are presumably averaged across all stages of peoples' 40 year careers 2. We are a fairly small business, we have enough 'old hands' already, and we are mostly looking for people earlier in their careers 3. We are not looking for any one person with all of those skills, just saying that those are all skills of interest. 4. Everything is negotiable Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. Thornton House, Thornton Road, Wimbledon, London SW19 4NG, UK Tel +44-20-8405-6420 ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Developers - ReportLab, Wimbledon, London
Russel, I actually had a read of the Equality and Diversity Act 2010. It defines seven "protected characteristics": age, disability, gender reassignment, race, religion or belief, sex, sexual orientation, marriage and civil partnership and pregnancy and maternity. I cannot find anything in it to say that we can't try to hire smart, capable people. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
[python-uk] The perils of reply-to
As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing just that and cutting off conversations, so a few years ago there was a general vote to change it. In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python developers on this list (well, all but one of them...) happy with the way it currently works? Best Regards, -- Andy Robinson Managing Director ReportLab Europe Ltd. (I think I am still a list admin...) ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to
On 3 January 2013 11:57, Jonathan Lange wrote: > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html makes a compelling case > for choosing 'reply to sender' over 'reply to the list'. > Yes, I think the mailman user interface points to this article as well and recommends the default of 'reply to sender'. But we had this discussion a few years ago and a clear majority of people asked for it to be kept the current way. It still seems this way. - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to
On 3 January 2013 17:07, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: >> like this? >> >> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard > list behaviour, which is "Reply-To unchanged from the sender's email". > ___ For your info here are the relevant options from the mailman screen Reply-To: header munging -- Should any existing Reply-To: header found in the original message be stripped? If so, this will be done regardless of whether an explict Reply-To: header is added by Mailman or not. Options: Yes or No (currently 'No') Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. Options: Poster | This list | Explicit address (currently "This list") Explicit Reply-To: header. [box to fill in if used, currently empty] -- - Andy ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
Re: [python-uk] Python Trademark at Risk in Europe
G!! I'll attempt to muster all my righteous indignation and write a letter this weekend - also happy to contribute some money for lawyers. If anyone needs a 'Mr. Angry' to go and testify anywhere I would be happy to. Just a thought - surely the long track record of EuroPython conferences must count for a lot within the EU? I can probably work in the following... - first person organising Python community technical meetings in London, back to 1996 - (co) author of a book with Python in the title in 2000 - OK, it was published by O'Reilly but it was promoted and on sale here - first company based entirely on Python software, 2000 onwards, evangelising the use of the language in UK etc etc - 'chaired' UK Python Conference (albeit as a track somewhat under the radar within the ACCU, but I can downplay) for about 5 years from 2002 onwards Andy Robinson ReportLab ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
