[python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Thomas Guest]

We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
engineers.

We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
learn both the language and the basics of computer science.

Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?

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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[William Mayor]

I’ve not experienced it myself but the guy that runs the PythonBytes and 
TalkPython podcast has an online course:

https://training.talkpython.fm/ 

My suspicion is that it’s a good one. He seems like a very well read developer. 
Although he does trend towards the web-dev and MongoDB side of things, so maybe 
not great for learning scientific python?


> On 5 May 2017, at 10:11, Thomas Guest  wrote:
> 
> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to use 
> Python. These are people without a background in programming or computer 
> science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations engineers. 
> 
> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them learn 
> both the language and the basics of computer science.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Thomas Guest
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Leona So via python-uk]

​Depends on what aspect of Python you would like to find materials for.
Video wise, have you looked at Lynda.com , it's a
paid one, or Udemy . Free and paid ones are edX
, ​Future Learn ,
coursera , Udacity .

Website wise, I like:
Automatetheboringstuff
https://automatetheboringstuff.com/
Learn Python the hard way
https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

Regards,


Leona

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Guest 
wrote:

> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
> use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
> computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
> engineers.
>
> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
> learn both the language and the basics of computer science.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Thomas Guest
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Bibiana Cristofol Amat]

Hi,

I would recommend to start with 'Learn Python the hard way
'  and then 'Introduction to
Computer Science with Python'

in Edx. I have done both and they are really well done a useful.

Cheers,
Bibiana

On 5 May 2017 at 10:11, Thomas Guest  wrote:

> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
> use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
> computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
> engineers.
>
> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
> learn both the language and the basics of computer science.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Thomas Guest
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Daniel Moisset]

You might want to take a look at the Djangogirls tutorial. It's not a full
course, but it does a great job at covering some things that should be
there and most courses take for granted (like using a text editor or
running the interpreter) and also to get some code that works very quickly
which is useful to remove fears that programming is a dark art, showing
that it's just a skill.

On 5 May 2017 10:12, "Thomas Guest"  wrote:

> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
> use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
> computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
> engineers.
>
> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
> learn both the language and the basics of computer science.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Andy Robinson]

What kind of tasks do you want them to be able to perform?  On what
OS?  Will they interact with version control?

As we all know, Python tends to "get out of the way", but learning
IDEs and coding habits takes a while, and learning libraries and
frameworks takes a lifetime.It's very different indeed helping
someone in science of finance to do stats , or to do purer library
development and the odd interaction with a file.   So the materials
have to ensure they install the right stuff for them.
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Mark Lawrence via python-uk]

On 05/05/2017 10:32, Leona So via python-uk wrote:


Learn Python the hard way
https://learnpythonthehardway.org/

Regards,
 
Leona




I cannot recommend LPTHW, especially after the author's disgraceful rant 
"The Case Against Python 3 (For Now)" 
https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/nopython3.html.  "A Rebuttal For 
Python 3" is perhaps the best response.


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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Mark Lawrence via python-uk]

On 05/05/2017 10:39, Bibiana Cristofol Amat wrote:

Hi,

I would recommend to start with 'Learn Python the hard way 
'


Cheers,
Bibiana



Another reason *NOT* to use LPTHW http://sopython.com/wiki/LPTHW_Complaints

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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Thomas Guest]

Thanks for some great suggestions.

To answer some questions: OS is probably Windows, most (all?) of the people
are already using version control. Happily we don't need to mention Python
2 :-)

Tasks: eventually, some may be involved with automation (deployment, test);
others more analytical scripting to get statistics from text files etc.
However, initially I would hope to find a course which provides targeted
exercises.

I myself took a course on Coursera
 recently and couldn't
recommend it more highly. The things which made the difference were:
- superb material
- challenging exercises with an online assessment system
- details on "development environment" (not a problem for me, but the
course did include student Matlab edition)

It helped that it was free, so although my employer were happy for me to
set aside time, I didn't have to ask for funding. Other courses on the same
site have been disappointing.


On 5 May 2017 at 11:56, Mark Lawrence via python-uk 
wrote:

> On 05/05/2017 10:39, Bibiana Cristofol Amat wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would recommend to start with 'Learn Python the hard way <
>> https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/>'
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bibiana
>>
>>
> Another reason *NOT* to use LPTHW http://sopython.com/wiki/LPTHW
> _Complaints
>
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Jurgis Pralgauskis]

https://www.codecademy.com/learn/python


2017-05-05 12:12 "Thomas Guest"  rašė:

> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
> use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
> computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
> engineers.
>
> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
> learn both the language and the basics of computer science.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [python-uk] Online python training for non-programmers

[Nick Sarbicki]

Just as a counter point to two options posted already (Learn Python the
Hard Way and codecademy).

Both were great courses, but specifically for python2, not python3. If you
want to learn python3, and therefore be up to date with the latest
libraries (for example, scipy wiill drop python 2 support in 2020
http://www.python3statement.org/, as will Django) you should probably look
elsewhere.

That said, codecademy is planning on upgrading their python courses this
summer (it hasn't changed for ~5 years) and I heard rumour about a python3
course by October. Likewise Zed Shaw of Learn Python the Hard Way is
supposed to have finally given in and is writing a python3 course. Although
he seemingly went completely off the rails over python3 a year or so ago so
not sure how reliable it will be.

I would personally agree with the Coursera recommendation (how I started
out, very high quality, lots of help available) and Automate the Boring
Stuff.

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:25 PM Jurgis Pralgauskis <
jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.codecademy.com/learn/python
>
>
> 2017-05-05 12:12 "Thomas Guest"  rašė:
>
>> We have some technical staff where I work who would like to learn how to
>> use Python. These are people without a background in programming or
>> computer science, including QA engineers, medical scientists, operations
>> engineers.
>>
>> We're on the lookout for online training material which will help them
>> learn both the language and the basics of computer science.
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Thomas Guest
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[python-uk] Job post - senior contractor

[Fabio Natali]

Hi All,

In case it can be of interest, here at my company Reckon Digital we are
looking for a senior contractor for a 3-month gig (probably renewable).
We use Python, Django, pytest, Docker, and Postgres - a very good
familiarity with these tools will be needed.

Some more details are listed here:

https://reckondigital.com/jobs/

We are based in London and would be glad to speak to interested
candidates via call or in person at our office.

(Please, no agencies and no telecommuting.)

Fabio


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