Re: [python-uk] Travelling to EuroPython 2015 by boat?

2015-03-24 Thread Harry Percival
Did you know that if you take the UK, and you remove all of Scotland,
Northern Ireland, and England, you get left with an area the size of Wales?

On 24 March 2015 at 00:54, Jon Ribbens 
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 04:54:08PM +, Daniele Procida wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, Jon Ribbens 
> wrote:
> > I've done the return journey once or twice a year since 2008 and
> > always enjoyed it.
> >
> > In July last year I saw a whale the size of a whale.
>
> That's pretty big, for a whale.
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Re: [python-uk] Travelling to EuroPython 2015 by boat?

2015-03-24 Thread Martin Campbell
Relevant xckd

https://xkcd.com/703/



From: Harry Percival
Reply-To: "hj...@cantab.net", UK Python Users
Date: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 09:16
To: UK Python Users
Subject: Re: [python-uk] Travelling to EuroPython 2015 by boat?

Did you know that if you take the UK, and you remove all of Scotland, Northern 
Ireland, and England, you get left with an area the size of Wales?

On 24 March 2015 at 00:54, Jon Ribbens 
mailto:jon+python...@unequivocal.co.uk>> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 04:54:08PM +, Daniele Procida wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, Jon Ribbens 
> mailto:jon%2bpython...@unequivocal.co.uk>> 
> wrote:
> I've done the return journey once or twice a year since 2008 and
> always enjoyed it.
>
> In July last year I saw a whale the size of a whale.

That's pretty big, for a whale.
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[python-uk] RaspberryPi related request for help

2015-03-24 Thread Nicholas H.Tollervey
Hi,

The RaspberryPi Education team (i.e. Carrie Anne - cc'd) is having a
problem getting a Python 3 version of smbus to work. The following links
pretty much sum up the problem.

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-i2c/msg08427.html
http://procrastinative.ninja/2014/07/21/smbus-for-python34-on-raspberry/
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22348

Put simply, does anyone have the time and knowledge to create a
python3-smbus package for Raspbian using the instructions/details above?
As I can tell, it's a case of following the instructions above to apply
the patch and repackaging it. A good outcome would be a
python3-smbus.deb package. I'm crazy busy at the moment but might try
fixing this next week if you don't manage it first.

You may be asking yourself, "Why should I?" Well, I'm glad you asked: a
*huge* number of children (think several million) and the education team
(around 4) would benefit from this work.

Put simply, you'll be making a huge difference.

Here's hoping you can help.

:-)

N.



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Re: [python-uk] RaspberryPi related request for help

2015-03-24 Thread Andrew Farrell
Hi Carrie,

Would a solution that involves conda
, a cross-platform package manager
mostly used in the scientific python community be usable by the team, or
would installing that be a non-starter?
If it would be useful, I can take a crack at it this weekend.

-- Andrew

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The RaspberryPi Education team (i.e. Carrie Anne - cc'd) is having a
> problem getting a Python 3 version of smbus to work. The following links
> pretty much sum up the problem.
>
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-i2c/msg08427.html
> http://procrastinative.ninja/2014/07/21/smbus-for-python34-on-raspberry/
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22348
>
> Put simply, does anyone have the time and knowledge to create a
> python3-smbus package for Raspbian using the instructions/details above?
> As I can tell, it's a case of following the instructions above to apply
> the patch and repackaging it. A good outcome would be a
> python3-smbus.deb package. I'm crazy busy at the moment but might try
> fixing this next week if you don't manage it first.
>
> You may be asking yourself, "Why should I?" Well, I'm glad you asked: a
> *huge* number of children (think several million) and the education team
> (around 4) would benefit from this work.
>
> Put simply, you'll be making a huge difference.
>
> Here's hoping you can help.
>
> :-)
>
> N.
>
>
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Re: [python-uk] RaspberryPi related request for help

2015-03-24 Thread Steve Holden
Hi Andrew,

That's an interesting idea. If you aren't already considering it, I'd recommend 
minoconda3 to keep network traffic and build times down - as you are doubtless 
aware Anaconda can be pretty heavyweight, whereas miniconda is leaner, using 
load-on-demand.

I know that the guys at Continuum (principal developers of Anaconda) are 
supportive of Raspberry Pi (see for example 
http://continuum.io/blog/raspberry), but cross-compilation on a reasonably 
powerful machine (or at least a Raspberry Pi 2) would make the task more 
manageable.

Of course this brain dump comes to you without benefit of knowing your plans in 
detail. Sorry if it's all blindingly obvious.

S

On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Andrew Farrell  wrote:

> Hi Carrie,
> 
> Would a solution that involves conda, a cross-platform package manager mostly 
> used in the scientific python community be usable by the team, or would 
> installing that be a non-starter?
> If it would be useful, I can take a crack at it this weekend.
> 
> -- Andrew
> 
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey  
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The RaspberryPi Education team (i.e. Carrie Anne - cc'd) is having a
> problem getting a Python 3 version of smbus to work. The following links
> pretty much sum up the problem.
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-i2c/msg08427.html
> http://procrastinative.ninja/2014/07/21/smbus-for-python34-on-raspberry/
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22348
> 
> Put simply, does anyone have the time and knowledge to create a
> python3-smbus package for Raspbian using the instructions/details above?
> As I can tell, it's a case of following the instructions above to apply
> the patch and repackaging it. A good outcome would be a
> python3-smbus.deb package. I'm crazy busy at the moment but might try
> fixing this next week if you don't manage it first.
> 
> You may be asking yourself, "Why should I?" Well, I'm glad you asked: a
> *huge* number of children (think several million) and the education team
> (around 4) would benefit from this work.
> 
> Put simply, you'll be making a huge difference.
> 
> Here's hoping you can help.
> 
> :-)
> 
> N.
> 
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Re: [python-uk] RaspberryPi related request for help

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Golden

On 24/03/2015 17:04, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:

The RaspberryPi Education team (i.e. Carrie Anne - cc'd) is having a
problem getting a Python 3 version of smbus to work.


Why not post as well to the much more widely-read python-list?

TJG
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Re: [python-uk] RaspberryPi related request for help

2015-03-24 Thread Andrew Farrell
Hi Steve,

That is in fact what I was planning on doing. I ought to have disclosed
that I actually work for Continuum Analytics, though I'd probably be trying
this out as just as a personal weekend project.
I'll also be trying this on QEMU on OSx
 since my pi
is still in the mail.

If anyone has any horror stories about trying that to warn me about, please
let me know.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Steve Holden  wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> That's an interesting idea. If you aren't already considering it, I'd
> recommend minoconda3 to keep network traffic and build times down - as you
> are doubtless aware Anaconda can be pretty heavyweight, whereas miniconda
> is leaner, using load-on-demand.
>
> I know that the guys at Continuum (principal developers of Anaconda) are
> supportive of Raspberry Pi (see for example
> http://continuum.io/blog/raspberry), but cross-compilation on a
> reasonably powerful machine (or at least a Raspberry Pi 2) would make the
> task more manageable.
>
> Of course this brain dump comes to you without benefit of knowing your
> plans in detail. Sorry if it's all blindingly obvious.
>
> S
>
> On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Andrew Farrell  wrote:
>
> Hi Carrie,
>
> Would a solution that involves conda
> , a cross-platform package
> manager mostly used in the scientific python community be usable by the
> team, or would installing that be a non-starter?
> If it would be useful, I can take a crack at it this weekend.
>
> -- Andrew
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Nicholas H.Tollervey 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The RaspberryPi Education team (i.e. Carrie Anne - cc'd) is having a
>> problem getting a Python 3 version of smbus to work. The following links
>> pretty much sum up the problem.
>>
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-i2c/msg08427.html
>> http://procrastinative.ninja/2014/07/21/smbus-for-python34-on-raspberry/
>> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22348
>>
>> Put simply, does anyone have the time and knowledge to create a
>> python3-smbus package for Raspbian using the instructions/details above?
>> As I can tell, it's a case of following the instructions above to apply
>> the patch and repackaging it. A good outcome would be a
>> python3-smbus.deb package. I'm crazy busy at the moment but might try
>> fixing this next week if you don't manage it first.
>>
>> You may be asking yourself, "Why should I?" Well, I'm glad you asked: a
>> *huge* number of children (think several million) and the education team
>> (around 4) would benefit from this work.
>>
>> Put simply, you'll be making a huge difference.
>>
>> Here's hoping you can help.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> N.
>>
>>
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