Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Jonathan Hartley]

On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:

Hi,

On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:


I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to create more
ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I wouldn't be able to
attend every time.

I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would happen on
weekends.



Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at weekends. I 
much prefer a weeknight slot.


Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop you.

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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Alistair Broomhead]

I'd also be interested - I usually attend ldnpydojo on a Thursday but a
weekend would be more ideal. If it were a Sunday I would prefer it to start
and end earlier, for the same reason Thursdays are less than convenient.

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On Jan 30, 2012 10:34 PM, "Mohammed Abdulrazeg" 
wrote:

> I agree. Although, I do not know if people would be up for a weekend. I
> would be up for it, since then I think we can have longer and it is not so
> rushed as people need to prepare for work the other day.
>
> --
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>
> On Monday, 30 January 2012 at 21:56, Kuba wrote:
>
> Yep, I'm in the same situation as Alec.
>
> I'd like to go to London Python dojo, but
> weekday is not the option for me.
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

There's no reason we couldn't host two events a month at the Global office
(Leicester Square). I have to get sign off but it seems possible. We have a
theatre that will seat around 40 people for presentations. I'll wait until
I get final approval before moving forward.

On 31 January 2012 11:00, Jonathan Hartley  wrote:

> On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:
>>
>>  I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to create more
>>> ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I wouldn't be able to
>>> attend every time.
>>>
>> I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would happen on
>> weekends.
>>
>>
> Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at weekends. I
> much prefer a weeknight slot.
>
> Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop you.
>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Nicholas H.Tollervey]

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Choosing the day/time of a dojo is always going to inconvenience
someone. I have a young family and weekends are precious. Obviously I
could make a Saturday dojo but not every month.

If Ed is willing to provide a location along with free pizza and beer
(which is the usual package provided by a "sponsor") then I think it's
a cracking good idea!

Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
aggregate information or single use applications such as something
that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
next 24 hours... and so on.

Now, *that* would be awesome and play to the extended period of time
we'd have at our disposal.

What's the upper limit on numbers..? How are people fixed in February?

Just throwing ideas around... ;-)

N.

On 31/01/12 11:00, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:
>> 
>>> I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to
>>> create more ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I
>>> wouldn't be able to attend every time.
>> I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would
>> happen on weekends.
>> 
> 
> Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at
> weekends. I much prefer a weeknight slot.
> 
> Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop
> you.
> 

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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

I like the idea of a hackathon and the venue would lend itself well to
this. I've been told that we won't have budget for food or drink but I have
other contacts that I may able to convince to help sponsor the events. As I
said, it's early days yet and I've only just started the formal process for
sign-off and I'm hoping to have that sorted this week. I'll have a look
around the theatre and meeting rooms to get a better idea of how many we
can support.

On 31 January 2012 11:28, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:

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>
> Choosing the day/time of a dojo is always going to inconvenience
> someone. I have a young family and weekends are precious. Obviously I
> could make a Saturday dojo but not every month.
>
> If Ed is willing to provide a location along with free pizza and beer
> (which is the usual package provided by a "sponsor") then I think it's
> a cracking good idea!
>
> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
> aggregate information or single use applications such as something
> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
> next 24 hours... and so on.
>
> Now, *that* would be awesome and play to the extended period of time
> we'd have at our disposal.
>
> What's the upper limit on numbers..? How are people fixed in February?
>
> Just throwing ideas around... ;-)
>
> N.
>
> On 31/01/12 11:00, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> > On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:
> >>
> >>> I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to
> >>> create more ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I
> >>> wouldn't be able to attend every time.
> >> I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would
> >> happen on weekends.
> >>
> >
> > Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at
> > weekends. I much prefer a weeknight slot.
> >
> > Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop
> > you.
> >
>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ross Lawley]

Ed if you're feeling really adventurous you could throw a BarCamp! Its been
a while since one has been done there:
http://barcamp.org/w/page/401031/BarCampLondon4

Ross

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ed Stafford <
walter.staff...@carbonsixty.co.uk> wrote:

> I like the idea of a hackathon and the venue would lend itself well to
> this. I've been told that we won't have budget for food or drink but I have
> other contacts that I may able to convince to help sponsor the events. As I
> said, it's early days yet and I've only just started the formal process for
> sign-off and I'm hoping to have that sorted this week. I'll have a look
> around the theatre and meeting rooms to get a better idea of how many we
> can support.
>
> On 31 January 2012 11:28, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Choosing the day/time of a dojo is always going to inconvenience
>> someone. I have a young family and weekends are precious. Obviously I
>> could make a Saturday dojo but not every month.
>>
>> If Ed is willing to provide a location along with free pizza and beer
>> (which is the usual package provided by a "sponsor") then I think it's
>> a cracking good idea!
>>
>> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
>> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
>> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
>> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
>> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
>> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
>> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
>> aggregate information or single use applications such as something
>> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
>> next 24 hours... and so on.
>>
>> Now, *that* would be awesome and play to the extended period of time
>> we'd have at our disposal.
>>
>> What's the upper limit on numbers..? How are people fixed in February?
>>
>> Just throwing ideas around... ;-)
>>
>> N.
>>
>> On 31/01/12 11:00, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>> > On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to
>> >>> create more ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I
>> >>> wouldn't be able to attend every time.
>> >> I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would
>> >> happen on weekends.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at
>> > weekends. I much prefer a weeknight slot.
>> >
>> > Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop
>> > you.
>> >
>>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

Hi Ross,

That's an idea! Once I get the sign off I may find we have enough time for
2 or 3 events a month. Will have to gauge interest towards the end of the
week.

On 31 January 2012 11:45, Ross Lawley  wrote:

> Ed if you're feeling really adventurous you could throw a BarCamp! Its
> been a while since one has been done there:
> http://barcamp.org/w/page/401031/BarCampLondon4
>
> Ross
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ed Stafford <
> walter.staff...@carbonsixty.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I like the idea of a hackathon and the venue would lend itself well to
>> this. I've been told that we won't have budget for food or drink but I have
>> other contacts that I may able to convince to help sponsor the events. As I
>> said, it's early days yet and I've only just started the formal process for
>> sign-off and I'm hoping to have that sorted this week. I'll have a look
>> around the theatre and meeting rooms to get a better idea of how many we
>> can support.
>>
>> On 31 January 2012 11:28, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:
>>
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Choosing the day/time of a dojo is always going to inconvenience
>>> someone. I have a young family and weekends are precious. Obviously I
>>> could make a Saturday dojo but not every month.
>>>
>>> If Ed is willing to provide a location along with free pizza and beer
>>> (which is the usual package provided by a "sponsor") then I think it's
>>> a cracking good idea!
>>>
>>> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
>>> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
>>> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
>>> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
>>> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
>>> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
>>> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
>>> aggregate information or single use applications such as something
>>> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
>>> next 24 hours... and so on.
>>>
>>> Now, *that* would be awesome and play to the extended period of time
>>> we'd have at our disposal.
>>>
>>> What's the upper limit on numbers..? How are people fixed in February?
>>>
>>> Just throwing ideas around... ;-)
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>> On 31/01/12 11:00, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>>> > On 30/01/2012 23:58, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan/30/2012, Tom Viner wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I personally would really enjoy having a longer session to
>>> >>> create more ambitious solutions on a weekend dojo. Although I
>>> >>> wouldn't be able to attend every time.
>>> >> I estimate that I would go 50% of the Python Dojo's that would
>>> >> happen on weekends.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Personally, I could probably only make it 10% of the time at
>>> > weekends. I much prefer a weeknight slot.
>>> >
>>> > Good luck to those of you who prefer it though, that shouldn't stop
>>> > you.
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Nicholas H.Tollervey]

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Hi,

On 31/01/12 11:54, Ed Stafford wrote:
> Hi Ross,
> 
> That's an idea! Once I get the sign off I may find we have enough
> time for 2 or 3 events a month. Will have to gauge interest towards
> the end of the week.
> 

Hmmm... might this not cause hackathon fatigue? There are a lot of
developer related events in London and doing something too much will
probably start really well and then dribble off as the new "shiny"
comes along.

When I think about what we do in the dojo I reckon the limitations of
size and frequency (we can only do it once a month in an office
that'll hold no more than 30 hackers) actually plays to our advantage.
People know the damn thing is going to sell out within hours and won't
be around for another 4-5 weeks so best book a ticket RIGHT NOW!!11!!1!

:-)

Happy to help out in any way I can.

N.
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Bruce Durling]

Ross and Nick

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:20, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:

> When I think about what we do in the dojo I reckon the limitations of
> size and frequency (we can only do it once a month in an office
> that'll hold no more than 30 hackers) actually plays to our advantage.
> People know the damn thing is going to sell out within hours and won't
> be around for another 4-5 weeks so best book a ticket RIGHT NOW!!11!!1!

We get around 30-40 signups for the London Clojure Dojos. We also run
monthly Incanter/Clojure Hack days and Overtone/Clojure hack days (not
quite monthly yet). The weekend numbers are much smaller than the
weeknight numbers for a monthly event.

I'm curious to see how the numbers compare.

cheers,
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

You're right about the fatigue and it's my fault for being unclear. The
events won't all be python related. I have contacts with people from other
events so I'm thinking one Python dojo or hackathon, a general themed
hackathon with participation from multiple disciplines and maybe a barcamp
every other month or something. I'm still working out the details and  I've
started hitting up other companies for potential sponsorship.

Still early days. The one thing I don't want to do is step on the toes of
the existing dojo. So please, if you feel this is the case let me know and
we can work something out. Maybe the  python dojo stays as it is and we
concentrate on a Python hackathon on the weekend (which I really like the
idea of).

On 31 January 2012 12:20, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Hi,
>
> On 31/01/12 11:54, Ed Stafford wrote:
> > Hi Ross,
> >
> > That's an idea! Once I get the sign off I may find we have enough
> > time for 2 or 3 events a month. Will have to gauge interest towards
> > the end of the week.
> >
>
> Hmmm... might this not cause hackathon fatigue? There are a lot of
> developer related events in London and doing something too much will
> probably start really well and then dribble off as the new "shiny"
> comes along.
>
> When I think about what we do in the dojo I reckon the limitations of
> size and frequency (we can only do it once a month in an office
> that'll hold no more than 30 hackers) actually plays to our advantage.
> People know the damn thing is going to sell out within hours and won't
> be around for another 4-5 weeks so best book a ticket RIGHT NOW!!11!!1!
>
> :-)
>
> Happy to help out in any way I can.
>
> N.
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Nicholas H.Tollervey]

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Hi Ed,



> Still early days. The one thing I don't want to do is step on the
> toes of the existing dojo. So please, if you feel this is the case
> let me know and we can work something out. Maybe the  python dojo
> stays as it is and we concentrate on a Python hackathon on the
> weekend (which I really like the idea of).
> 

Absolutely no toes stepped upon at all! :-)

The more Python / dev related events we have in London the better. The
important thing is to coordinate (we've had double bookings before)
and that we build upon the energy these efforts generate.

I too like the idea of a hackathon - a lot more scope for extensive
things to happen. The dojo is all about learning and extending your
skills by practising using a specific problem whereas a hackathon is
all about producing *something* useful in a particular problem domain
("Living in London", "Hack the NHS" etc...)

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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

Hi Nick,

Absolutely, is there a system in place somewhere to help coordinate these
or is it on an ad-hoc basis? Do you just check Lanyard or something?

On 31 January 2012 12:41, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:

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> 
>
> > Still early days. The one thing I don't want to do is step on the
> > toes of the existing dojo. So please, if you feel this is the case
> > let me know and we can work something out. Maybe the  python dojo
> > stays as it is and we concentrate on a Python hackathon on the
> > weekend (which I really like the idea of).
> >
>
> Absolutely no toes stepped upon at all! :-)
>
> The more Python / dev related events we have in London the better. The
> important thing is to coordinate (we've had double bookings before)
> and that we build upon the energy these efforts generate.
>
> I too like the idea of a hackathon - a lot more scope for extensive
> things to happen. The dojo is all about learning and extending your
> skills by practising using a specific problem whereas a hackathon is
> all about producing *something* useful in a particular problem domain
> ("Living in London", "Hack the NHS" etc...)
>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Richard Nienaber]

>
> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
> aggregate information or single use applications such as something
> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
> next 24 hours... and so on.


I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting together a
PSF sanctioned python sprint . These are sprints
that would be for the benefit of the wider python community e.g.

   - Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
   - Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
   - PyPI and packaging related improvements
   - Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
   - Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32 and
   so on...

The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application is
accepted.

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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Nicholas H.Tollervey]

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We post well in advance on the python-uk mailing list. Code dojos are
usually the first Thursday of every month except January (and
sometimes September depending on the academic year). We take August off.

;-)

N.

On 31/01/12 13:25, Ed Stafford wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> 
> Absolutely, is there a system in place somewhere to help
> coordinate these or is it on an ad-hoc basis? Do you just check
> Lanyard or something?
> 
> On 31 January 2012 12:41, Nicholas H.Tollervey  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> 
> 
>> Still early days. The one thing I don't want to do is step on
>> the toes of the existing dojo. So please, if you feel this is the
>> case let me know and we can work something out. Maybe the  python
>> dojo stays as it is and we concentrate on a Python hackathon on
>> the weekend (which I really like the idea of).
> 
> 
> Absolutely no toes stepped upon at all! :-)
> 
> The more Python / dev related events we have in London the better.
> The important thing is to coordinate (we've had double bookings
> before) and that we build upon the energy these efforts generate.
> 
> I too like the idea of a hackathon - a lot more scope for
> extensive things to happen. The dojo is all about learning and
> extending your skills by practising using a specific problem
> whereas a hackathon is all about producing *something* useful in a
> particular problem domain ("Living in London", "Hack the NHS"
> etc...)
> 
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

A Python Sprint is a fantastic idea as well.

I've double checked our facilities and we can easily accomodate 35 in the
theater and can squeeze in another 7 chairs up front (might be a little
cramped though) and there's a little bit of standing room off the side.

I think 40-45 people would be the max unless presentations are short and
some people don't mind standing. If that's the case we could fit maybe 50
or so. There's plenty of space in the conference rooms and breakout areas
(couches and various chairs).

On 31 January 2012 13:32, Richard Nienaber  wrote:

> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
>> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
>> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to produce
>> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
>> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
>> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data, quick
>> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
>> aggregate information or single use applications such as something
>> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
>> next 24 hours... and so on.
>
>
> I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting together a
> PSF sanctioned python sprint . These are
> sprints that would be for the benefit of the wider python community e.g.
>
>- Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
>- Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
>- PyPI and packaging related improvements
>- Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
>- Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32
>and so on...
>
> The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application is
> accepted.
>
> Richard
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Tim Golden]

Ed, it sounds great. I think it would be very good to
host a different Python session in London, perhaps in
the other half of the month from the Dojo, and that
it be a weekend will obviously allow some people to
come who couldn't come otherwise -- just as the
reverse is true for our Thursday Dojos.

As Nicholas says, we tend to coordinate simply through
the python-uk mailing list (ie this one) with tweets
and any other means people wish to use. I don't think
we're on Lanyard altho' I could be wrong.

The size you're talking about is probably about as big
as you really want before the thing moves into being
a conference. Just in curiosity, would it be possible
for you to post a photo of your presentation space?

I second the suggestion for a sprint, at least as one
way of making use of the session. I'm fairly sure that
the PSF sprinters are particularly keen on Python3-porting
sprints.

For my own part, I'd like to be able to come. I'm in West
London, but I run a boys' club on Saturdays and Sunday is
the only free space I get :) Have to see... Thanks again
for offering the space. Let's see if we can get something
going.

TJG


On 31/01/2012 13:38, Ed Stafford wrote:

A Python Sprint is a fantastic idea as well.

I've double checked our facilities and we can easily accomodate 35 in
the theater and can squeeze in another 7 chairs up front (might be a
little cramped though) and there's a little bit of standing room off the
side.

I think 40-45 people would be the max unless presentations are short and
some people don't mind standing. If that's the case we could fit maybe
50 or so. There's plenty of space in the conference rooms and breakout
areas (couches and various chairs).

On 31 January 2012 13:32, Richard Nienaber mailto:rjniena...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to
produce
something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data,
quick
and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
aggregate information or single use applications such as something
that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
next 24 hours... and so on.


I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting
together a PSF sanctioned python sprint .
These are sprints that would be for the benefit of the wider python
community e.g.

  * Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
  * Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
  * PyPI and packaging related improvements
  * Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
  * Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL,
pywin32 and so on...

The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application
is accepted.

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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Rami Chowdhury]

On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Tim Golden wrote:

> I second the suggestion for a sprint, at least as one
> way of making use of the session. I'm fairly sure that
> the PSF sprinters are particularly keen on Python3-porting
> sprints.

I would be very much up for a Python sprint, although like others I'm squeezed 
on Sundays. If there's any way I can help with the organizing, I'd be up for 
that too.

> 
> For my own part, I'd like to be able to come. I'm in West
> London, but I run a boys' club on Saturdays and Sunday is
> the only free space I get :) Have to see... Thanks again
> for offering the space. Let's see if we can get something
> going.
> 
> TJG
> 
> 
> On 31/01/2012 13:38, Ed Stafford wrote:
>> A Python Sprint is a fantastic idea as well.
>> 
>> I've double checked our facilities and we can easily accomodate 35 in
>> the theater and can squeeze in another 7 chairs up front (might be a
>> little cramped though) and there's a little bit of standing room off the
>> side.
>> 
>> I think 40-45 people would be the max unless presentations are short and
>> some people don't mind standing. If that's the case we could fit maybe
>> 50 or so. There's plenty of space in the conference rooms and breakout
>> areas (couches and various chairs).
>> 
>> On 31 January 2012 13:32, Richard Nienaber > > wrote:
>> 
>>Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed affair)
>>why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce around a
>>problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to
>>produce
>>something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a hackathon
>>around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as I go
>>along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data,
>>quick
>>and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs to
>>aggregate information or single use applications such as something
>>that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in the
>>next 24 hours... and so on.
>> 
>> 
>>I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting
>>together a PSF sanctioned python sprint .
>>These are sprints that would be for the benefit of the wider python
>>community e.g.
>> 
>>  * Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
>>  * Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
>>  * PyPI and packaging related improvements
>>  * Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
>>  * Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL,
>>pywin32 and so on...
>> 
>>The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application
>>is accepted.
>> 
>>Richard
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Javier Llopis]

While all are very good ideas, there is still clearly a need for a second
London python dojo since tickets fly in just a few hours after the
announcement.

Just a thought

J

> Ed, it sounds great. I think it would be very good to
> host a different Python session in London, perhaps in
> the other half of the month from the Dojo, and that
> it be a weekend will obviously allow some people to
> come who couldn't come otherwise -- just as the
> reverse is true for our Thursday Dojos.
>
> As Nicholas says, we tend to coordinate simply through
> the python-uk mailing list (ie this one) with tweets
> and any other means people wish to use. I don't think
> we're on Lanyard altho' I could be wrong.
>
> The size you're talking about is probably about as big
> as you really want before the thing moves into being
> a conference. Just in curiosity, would it be possible
> for you to post a photo of your presentation space?
>
> I second the suggestion for a sprint, at least as one
> way of making use of the session. I'm fairly sure that
> the PSF sprinters are particularly keen on Python3-porting
> sprints.
>
> For my own part, I'd like to be able to come. I'm in West
> London, but I run a boys' club on Saturdays and Sunday is
> the only free space I get :) Have to see... Thanks again
> for offering the space. Let's see if we can get something
> going.
>
> TJG
>
>
> On 31/01/2012 13:38, Ed Stafford wrote:
>> A Python Sprint is a fantastic idea as well.
>>
>> I've double checked our facilities and we can easily accomodate 35 in
>> the theater and can squeeze in another 7 chairs up front (might be a
>> little cramped though) and there's a little bit of standing room off the
>> side.
>>
>> I think 40-45 people would be the max unless presentations are short and
>> some people don't mind standing. If that's the case we could fit maybe
>> 50 or so. There's plenty of space in the conference rooms and breakout
>> areas (couches and various chairs).
>>
>> On 31 January 2012 13:32, Richard Nienaber > > wrote:
>>
>> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed
>> affair)
>> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce
>> around a
>> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to
>> produce
>> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a
>> hackathon
>> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as
>> I go
>> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data,
>> quick
>> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs
>> to
>> aggregate information or single use applications such as
>> something
>> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in
>> the
>> next 24 hours... and so on.
>>
>>
>> I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting
>> together a PSF sanctioned python sprint .
>> These are sprints that would be for the benefit of the wider python
>> community e.g.
>>
>>   * Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
>>   * Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
>>   * PyPI and packaging related improvements
>>   * Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
>>   * Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL,
>> pywin32 and so on...
>>
>> The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application
>> is accepted.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Ed Stafford]

If there's enough demand I'd be happy to host a second dojo as well. The
space is easy to find, covering the food and drink is what I'm working on
now.

I'll take some pictures this evening before I leave the office, as it's
less crowded, and send them along.

On 31 January 2012 13:51, Javier Llopis  wrote:

> While all are very good ideas, there is still clearly a need for a second
> London python dojo since tickets fly in just a few hours after the
> announcement.
>
> Just a thought
>
> J
>
> > Ed, it sounds great. I think it would be very good to
> > host a different Python session in London, perhaps in
> > the other half of the month from the Dojo, and that
> > it be a weekend will obviously allow some people to
> > come who couldn't come otherwise -- just as the
> > reverse is true for our Thursday Dojos.
> >
> > As Nicholas says, we tend to coordinate simply through
> > the python-uk mailing list (ie this one) with tweets
> > and any other means people wish to use. I don't think
> > we're on Lanyard altho' I could be wrong.
> >
> > The size you're talking about is probably about as big
> > as you really want before the thing moves into being
> > a conference. Just in curiosity, would it be possible
> > for you to post a photo of your presentation space?
> >
> > I second the suggestion for a sprint, at least as one
> > way of making use of the session. I'm fairly sure that
> > the PSF sprinters are particularly keen on Python3-porting
> > sprints.
> >
> > For my own part, I'd like to be able to come. I'm in West
> > London, but I run a boys' club on Saturdays and Sunday is
> > the only free space I get :) Have to see... Thanks again
> > for offering the space. Let's see if we can get something
> > going.
> >
> > TJG
> >
> >
> > On 31/01/2012 13:38, Ed Stafford wrote:
> >> A Python Sprint is a fantastic idea as well.
> >>
> >> I've double checked our facilities and we can easily accomodate 35 in
> >> the theater and can squeeze in another 7 chairs up front (might be a
> >> little cramped though) and there's a little bit of standing room off the
> >> side.
> >>
> >> I think 40-45 people would be the max unless presentations are short and
> >> some people don't mind standing. If that's the case we could fit maybe
> >> 50 or so. There's plenty of space in the conference rooms and breakout
> >> areas (couches and various chairs).
> >>
> >> On 31 January 2012 13:32, Richard Nienaber  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, rather than run a dojo (which is quite a focussed
> >> affair)
> >> why not run a hackathon? Self selecting teams can coalesce
> >> around a
> >> problem area rather than specific problem and have 6 hours to
> >> produce
> >> something before a show-and-tell. For example, running a
> >> hackathon
> >> around the subject of "Living in London" (I'm making this up as
> >> I go
> >> along, can't you tell..?) might produce tools for grabbing data,
> >> quick
> >> and lightweight websites, data-analysis tools, cloud based APIs
> >> to
> >> aggregate information or single use applications such as
> >> something
> >> that sends you a text message if it's going to rain in London in
> >> the
> >> next 24 hours... and so on.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd love to participate in a hackathon. Another idea is putting
> >> together a PSF sanctioned python sprint  >.
> >> These are sprints that would be for the benefit of the wider python
> >> community e.g.
> >>
> >>   * Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation
> >>   * Porting libraries/applications to Python 3
> >>   * PyPI and packaging related improvements
> >>   * Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython
> >>   * Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL,
> >> pywin32 and so on...
> >>
> >> The PSF are also willing to help out with costs if your application
> >> is accepted.
> >>
> >> Richard
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Re: [python-uk] saturday london python dojos?

[Alec Battles]

> While all are very good ideas, there is still clearly a need for a second
> London python dojo since tickets fly in just a few hours after the
> announcement.

yeah, that's what i was asking, ie -- 'does anyone else wish there
were saturday/sunday *python dojos* in london? am i the only one in
this situation?'

i am only interested in a weekend python dojo. and for what it's
worth, free pizza and beer were not totally essential to my enjoyment
of the weeknight dojo.

the open-ended, yet still predictable dojo format was what i went for.
i think whoever came up with that really nailed it. or maybe i just
like routines and predictable yet open-ended formats because i have
asperger's.
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