Re: Frameworks for "Non-Content Oriented Web Apps"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have started a topic that is really vauge. I knew that this topic is very general and abstract but I think it turned out to be more general that I had expected. Let me make an attemp at defining "Non-Content Oriented Web Applications". A "Non-Content Oriented Web Application": (1) will be accessed from web browser(obviously). (2) will be developed using 'W3C' and other open standards(STRICTLY, to ensure compatibility and portablity). (3) will expose some kind of functionality to the user, not just some document to read. (4) functionality can be very simple to very complex. I sat down to define what I actually mean by "Non-Content Oriented Web Applications" with a fairly clear idea, But suddenly every thing vanished from my mind, "OH MY GOD, I AM OUT OF WORDS". I think all of you have been i such situation at least once. So please help me in defining these "Non-Content Oriented Web Applications". To give a example, I think GMAIL comes quite close to what I am talking aout. Well,this is what we are working on,about point 2) 1) ~3) ~4) ,but I really don't think it has something strongly related with gmail. We are using nevow and rdf,mainly.Nevow for rendering pages,and rdf to build them on the fly. Probably,what I find related to your questions in this project is the open server ontology we are trying to build. Eventually ontologies and semantics have nothing to do with python core( :-(( ),but with a good scripting language it's easy to mix semantic net querying with pages ,rendering technical, nevow code. This way functionalities of the service are changed,and built during the service run,just adding triples to the semantic net and changing the contents sticked to its nodes. We hope to have code in the contents of the semantic net soon.This will allow to upload a piece of code ,some templates,together with the right metadatas in the semantic net and see the service implied running around in the pages which URI is matched by the pattern coded in the metadata of the service. It's not clear to me also,but this is how it works:using semantic matching(which can be very complex) to decide the interface to information pieces an URL renders. Last but not least,all the informations ,their logic and the rendering engine end functionalities(templates and their specific code),are distribuited as definition as the reside in the semantic net service.My poor english(and stoned mind). I hope I got something of your lost words,have fun and have a look at www.pytypus.org. Yours -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Frameworks for "Non-Content Oriented Web Apps"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are meant for content oriented web apps. Is there something that can ease the development of application that are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB APPLICATIONS" because I don't know what else to call them). I mean the applications like, accounting, high volume data entry apps, where normally GUI clients have ruled. I know very high quality ERP and similar packages have been implemented in a web based environment. But problem is that they have been developed with the tools that were actually meant for content oriented apps like Zope, PHP, etc. But is there some sort of framework or something that is actually meant for such web apps,application that make heavy use of forms, have very high amount of user interaction etc. What I am asking here may sound off beat, but I think, in todays world where web based solutions offers such a flexibility, we really need it. I also know that I am to ambiguous, but as is the characteristic of this wonderful community, talks that start as most abigous, transform in crystal clear. PS: I am a web developer, using PHP for living. I have been playing with python for a while. I found python is really a cool language(do I need to say that ;-)) with a really, really impressive collection of modules and frameworks. While developing a school information system, I felt the need of such a framework that makes developing of "Non-Content Oriented Web-Apps" easy. I know I posted a similar message earlier, but this time I a bit more general. In pytypus everything is not content is metadata( a part from some of the code ,which part is useful for accessing informations) ,so my definition will simply be metadata oriented. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
interface like behavior for mudules
Hello pyple, I have two modules :remote.py and local.py which have some classes with the same names specifically one we can call Model.So it exist remote.Model class and local.Model class A third module called uri.py derives some of its classes from a not better specified repository.Model at the beginning of uri.py I can write 'import local as repository' or 'import remote as repository'. In either cases the module uri is ready to be imported from a fourth module Now I have two applications ,say applocal.py and appremote.py. Both import uri as a module ,but the first wants uri to have imported local as repository and the second wants uri to have imported remote as repository. In pseudo language applocal.py would have 'import uri with local as repository' at the beginning and appremote.py would have 'import uri with remote as repository' I wonder if there is a way to keep uri unique,because as it is now I have to keep two modules,say urilocal and uriremote which differs only for a line at the top. I suppose __import__ is there to help me, but I have no idea on how. Hope I have been clear,thanks for considerations and help Yours Paolino -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
