noob can't install python modules/scripts

2012-12-28 Thread lostguru
hi, I'm not that new to programming (java) but I'm a pathetic newbie when it 
comes to python. I just started learning today and I'm trying to install 
third-party modules/scripts (I don't know the difference at the moment) so that 
they'll work in python; namely, easy_install/pip/distribute and beautifulsoup4

python version is 2.7.3; platform is windows 7, 64-bit

when I first installed python, I couldn't get it to run from the command line 
just by typing "python"; installing activepython (also 64-bit) seemed to have 
solved the problem (I later added C:\Python27 and C:\Python27\Scripts to the 
%PATH% environmental variable, not sure if this changed anything however)

the only problem now is that I can't install any modules for python (that or 
they're installed and not working); I'm aware that my 64-bit installation needs 
the respective 64-bit versions of all of the modules I want installed, so I 
made sure to download those; but running/installing all of those has yielded no 
reaction

using easy_install as an example, I downloaded the .py script the website told 
me to use for 64-bit installations, and ran it; as far as I know nothing 
happened (was I supposed to put it in a specific folder first before running 
it?) and trying to type "easy_install" into python gives me this:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
easy_install
NameError: name 'easy_install' is not defined

trying to type "easy_install BeautifulSoup4" gives me this:
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

I'm at a loss as to why none of this works; did I not set up Python correctly? 
or was there some step I missed/ignored? any help or input would be much 
appreciated at this stage
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Re: noob can't install python modules/scripts

2012-12-28 Thread lostguru
I guess I should add that the python installation is 64-bit as well


thanks again!
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Re: noob can't install python modules/scripts

2012-12-28 Thread lostguru
On Friday, December 28, 2012 11:12:19 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> "The website"? There's more than one website on the Internet. Which 
> 
> website are you referring to? What .py script did you download? How did 
> 
> you run it? Details are important!
> 
sorry about that; I was using the setuptools package from pypi python [ 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools ]; I downloaded the ez_setup.py file 
from under the 64-bit windows installation section and ran that (by double 
clicking on it, I hope this wasn't another noob mistake lol)
> 
> It looks like you tried to run the easy_install command from inside the 
> 
> Python interactive interpreter, rather than from your system shell.
> 
> 
> 
> The system shell (command.com or cmd.exe I guess) will have a $ or % sign 
> 
> as the prompt. Python usually has >>> as the prompt, although if you are 
> 
> running ActivePython it may be something else. You need to run the 
> 
> "easy_install BeautifulSoup4" command from the system shell, not Python.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Try that, and if there's another error, please copy and paste the exact 
> 
> command you used, and the full error message.
> 
running easy_install from the command line worked and BeautifulSoup4 seems to 
have installed, thanks for pointing out my mistake

the only problem I have now is that importing beautifulsoup into a .py file I 
wrote generates an error (I'm using ActiveState Komodo Edit 7, is there another 
program you would recommend to a beginner like me?)

trying to run the script gives an import error:
ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup

importing other modules like os and urllib that came with the python 
installation work without problems

looking online, all I've found were other accounts talking about a 
beautifulsoup.py that should be in the C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages directory, 
but I've found no such thing from the installation anywhere in the Python 
folder (funnily enough, I did a drive search with Everything and found a 
BeautifulSoup.py in my autodesk maya installation)

am I somewhere near the mark? or am I off completely?
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Re: noob can't install python modules/scripts

2012-12-29 Thread lostguru
On Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:33:59 AM UTC-5, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> You should read the BeautifulSoup tutorial/documentation.  If I remember 
> correctly you do  
> from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
> 
> Look at this tutorial to get started:  
> http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/bs4/doc/

ah got it, I was told to use import -modulename- for pretty much everything by 
a classmate; I'll definitely look into the documentation


thanks again for the help guys
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