Re: Python.org, Website of Satan

[kosh]

On Tuesday 11 January 2005 7:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> python.org = 194.109.137.226
>
> 194 + 109 + 137 + 226 = 666
>
> What is this website with such a demonic name and IP address?  What
> evils are the programmers who use this language up to?

Geeze did you miss out on the demon summoning rituals last week? Wow that was 
a great thing you missed out on. I am sorry I can't tell you about the future 
events though. Only great wizards are allowed to come and they all know when 
the events are. :)
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Re: 20050126 find replace strings in file

[kosh]

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 7:13 pm, Tad McClellan wrote:
> [ Followup set ]
>
> Dan Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I can't imagine why or how, but there are
> > actually 26 members in the perl-python Yahoo! group who have registered
> > to get these bogus lessons sent to them daily!
>
> There is one born every minute.
>

Nah it is daily humor. Just think of it like a joke list. :)
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Re: Python 2.4 killing commercial Windows Python development ?

[kosh]

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 9:11 pm, Roger Binns wrote:
> "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > I guess I don't understand some people's determination to not have users
> > install fully useable Python on their Windows machines.
>
> Ok, here is how you install BitPim which contains a frozen Python:
>
>   - Download and run the setup.exe from www.bitpim.org  (The
> instructions are the equivalent on Linux and Mac)
>

Here is the situation I see. I use debian linux systems. Installing all the 
dependencies is trivial and if your program has a debian package it would be 
a single command. The reason I don't like these programs that built the 
runtime, static link in a bunch of stuff etc is that it is a pain to upgrade 
later. If there is a security fix to python 2.4 I know there is ONE copy 
installed on the system and that updating it will fix it. If there is a 
problem with libpng, libjpeg, kdelibs, zope, apache etc the same is still 
true, there is only ONE copy of those items on the system and with a single 
command all of them can be updated and fixed. 

Under windows I can see why you would want stand alone binaries since it has 
no method for dealing with dependencies the way that the bsds and linuxes 
can. However for a unix product I always want items to be in their seperate 
parts since it makes my life as a programmer and admin a heck of a lot 
easier. Actually I tend to avoid any software that is not in the debian main 
archives since then it is more of a pain to deal with later.

Keeping track of security updates, feature updates etc for a bunch of 
computers with a lot of software from different locations is a royal pain in 
the neck. With windows it is worse since you don't even have a centralized 
update system.
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