python book for a C programmer

[Saurabh]

Hi all,
I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
hinderance.
I read Eric Raymonds article reagrding python,(http://
www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882).

And it kind of convinced me to learn Python,I have searched
comp.lang.python for books,
but there is so much information available that I feel lost,Some site
suggests a perticular book
is verybad, whilesome other gives it a 5star rating.


>From all the posts/article I have understood that I need atleast 2
python books
one from each of the 2 following categories,

1.introduction/tutorial
2.reference

For introduction I am thinking about 'Learning Python' and for
reference I am thinking about 'Python Bible'.

I need your suggestions on this.

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Re: python book for a C programmer

[Saurabh]

On Mar 14, 12:04 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Paul Rubin  wrote:
> > Saurabh  writes:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am an experienced C programmer, I have done some perl code as well.
> >> But while thinking about large programs,I find perl syntax a
> >> hinderance.
>
> > I would say read the online tutorial, then "Python in a Nutshell".
>
> Wholeheartedly seconded!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> --
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Thanks a lot  paul and chris.
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download x bytes at a time over network

[Saurabh]

I want to download content from the net - in chunks of x bytes or characters
at a time - so that it doesnt pull the entire content in one shot.

import urllib2
url = "http://python.org/";
handler = urllib2.urlopen(url)

data = handler.read(100)
print """Content :\n%s \n%s \n%s""" % ('=' * 100, data, '=' * 100)

# Disconnect the internet

data = handler.read(100) # I want it to throw an exception because it cant
fetch from the net
print """Content :\n%s \n%s \n%s""" % ('=' * 100, data, '=' * 100) # But
still works !

Apparently, handler = urllib2.urlopen(url) takes the entire data in buffer
and handler.read(100) is just reading from the buffer ?

Is it possible to get content from the net in chunks ? Or do I need to use
HTTPClient/sockets directly ?

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Re: download x bytes at a time over network

[Saurabh]

> This isn't exactly how things work.  The server *sends* you bytes.  It can
> send you a lot at once.  To some extent you can control how much it sends
> before it waits for you to catch up, but you don't have anywhere near
> byte-level control (you might have something like 32kb or 64kb level
> control).

What abt in Python3 ?
It seems to have some header like the one below : b'b495 - binary mode
with 46229 bytes ? Or is it something else ?

>>> import urllib.request
>>> url = "http://feeds2.feedburner.com/jquery/";
>>> handler = urllib.request.urlopen(url)
>>> data = handler.read(1000)
>>> print("""Content :\n%s \n%s \n%s""" % ('=' * 100, data, '=' * 100))
Content :

b'b495\r\n\r\nhttp://feeds2.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css";?>http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/";
xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/";
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/";
version="2.0">\r\n\r\n\r\n\tjQuery
Blog\r\n\thttp://blog.jquery.com\r\n\tNew
Wave Javascript.\r\n\tFri, 13 Mar 2009 13:07:07
+\r\n\thttp://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11\r\n\ten\r\n\t\t\thttp://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; rel="self"
href="http://feeds2.feedburner.com/jquery"; type="application/rss+xml"
/>\r\n\t\tThis Week in jQuery, vol.
1\r\n\t\thttp://blog.jquery.com/2009/03/13/this-week-in-jquery-vol-1/\r\n\t\thttp:'

>>>
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Re: download x bytes at a time over network

[Saurabh]

Heres the reason behind wanting to get chunks at a time.
Im actually retrieving data from a list of RSS Feeds and need to
continuously check for latest posts.
But I dont want to depend on Last-Modified header or the pubDate tag
in . Because a lot of feeds just output date('now')  instead
of the actual last-updated timestamp.
But when continuously checking for latest posts, I dont want to
bombard other people's bandwidth - so I just want to get chunks of
bytes at a time and internally check for ... with my
database against timestamp values.
Is there a better way to achieve this ?
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returning values of a particular key from a dictionary

[Saurabh]

arr = ({'x':'1', 'y':'a'}, {'x':'2', 'y':'b'}, {'x':'3', 'y':'c'})
print foo(arr, 'y')
['a','b','c']

I can write the function foo to return ['a','b','c'].
Is there some 'automatic'/built-in way to get this in Python ?

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Open source python projects

[saurabh]

Hi There,
I am an experienced C programmer and recently dived into python,
I have developed an instant love for it.
I have been doing some routine scripting for day to day admin tasks,also 
have done some Tkinter and socket programming using python.

I am looking for some open source python project preferably in one of
the above areas (not strictly, am open to others too) to contribute.

Please give me any pointers to some python project which needs a 
contributor.

Thanks
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Re: Open source python projects

[saurabh]

Thanks a lot everyone for your prompt replies. I am really glad to see so
many options for me.
I am sure joining any of the above projects will enrich my understanding
of python and programming.I will just have to find out , to which project
I will be most useful.I will definitely join one of them.


-Saurabh


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Re: Tutorials on Jinja

[Saurabh]

On Jun 25, 2:04 am, Wayne Brehaut  wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:46:55 -0700 (PDT), Saurabh
>
>  wrote:
> >Hi All,
>
> >I am trying to move my application on a MVC architecture and plan to
> >use Jinja for the same. Can anyone provide me with few quick links
> >that might help me to get started with Jinja?
>
> Perhaps the most useful link is:
>
> http://www.google.com/
>
> from which you can easily find many more with a very basic search,
> including:
>
> http://jinja.pocoo.org/
>
> Hope that helps?
> wwwayne
>
>
>
> >Thanks,
> >Saby
>
>

Thanks (Sir!). I was hoping to get some good tutorial on
implementation (which I wasn't able to find with a basic search -
http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/lodgeit/ is what I was referring to
earlier) as this is my first assignment on any template engine (never
used Cheetah, MakO, Tempita).

I would appreciate people responding with something helpful. If you
find a question pretty naive, kindly ignore the question rather than
passing comments on it. Doesn't helps anyone's time.

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Faster way to map numpy arrays

[Saurabh Kabra]

I have written a script to map a 2D numpy array(A) onto another array(B) of
different dimension. more than one element (of array A) are summed and
mapped to each element of array B.  To achieve this I create a list where I
store the index of array A to be mapped to array B. The list is the
dimension of array B (if one can technically say that) and each element is
a list of indices to be summed. Then I parse this list with a nested loop
and compute each element of array B.

Because of the nested loop and the big arrays the process takes a minute or
so. My question is: is there a more elegant and significantly faster way of
doing this in python?

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Re: Faster way to map numpy arrays

[Saurabh Kabra]

Thanks guys

I implemented a numpy array with fancy indices and got rid of the list and
the loops. The time to do the mapping improved ~10x. As a matter of fact,
the number of elements in array A to be summed and mapped was different for
each element in B (which was the reason I was using lists). But I solved
that problem by simply adding zero elements to make a regular 3D numpy
array out of the list.

Saurabh





On 25 June 2012 08:24, Stefan Behnel  wrote:

> Saurabh Kabra, 25.06.2012 05:37:
> > I have written a script to map a 2D numpy array(A) onto another array(B)
> of
> > different dimension. more than one element (of array A) are summed and
> > mapped to each element of array B.  To achieve this I create a list
> where I
> > store the index of array A to be mapped to array B. The list is the
> > dimension of array B (if one can technically say that) and each element
> is
> > a list of indices to be summed. Then I parse this list with a nested loop
> > and compute each element of array B.
>
>
> > Because of the nested loop and the big arrays the process takes a minute
> or
> > so. My question is: is there a more elegant and significantly faster way
> of
> > doing this in python?
>
> I'm sure there's a way to do this kind of transformation more efficiently
> in NumPy. I faintly recall that you can use one array to index into
> another, something like that might do the trick already. In any case, using
> a NumPy array also for the mapping matrix sounds like a straight forward
> thing to try.
>

I can't tell from the description of the problem what you're trying to do
but for the special case of summing along one axis of a numpy array of
dimension N to produce a new numpy array of dimension N-1, there is  fast
builtin support in numpy:

>>> import numpy
>>> a = numpy.array([[1, 2], [3, 4]])
>>> a
array([[1, 2],
   [3, 4]])
>>> a.sum()   # sum of all elements
10
>>> a.sum(axis=1)  # sum of each row
array([3, 7])
>>> a.sum(axis=0)  # sum of each column
array([4, 6])

If your problem is not in this form, you can use numpy's fancy indexing to
convert it to this form, provided the number of elements summed from A is
the same for each element of B (i.e. if each element of B is the result of
summing exactly 10 elements chosen from A).


> But you might also want to take a look at Cython. It sounds like a problem
> where a trivial Cython implementation would seriously boost the
> performance.
>
> http://docs.cython.org/src/tutorial/numpy.html


>
> Stefan
>
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Question regarding DNS resolution in urllib2

[saurabh verma]

hi ,

I trying to use urllib2 in my script , but the problem is lets say a domains 
resolves to multiple IPs , If the URL is served by plain http , I can add 
“Host: domain” header and check whether all IPs are returning proper responses 
or not , but in case of https , I have to trust on my local machines dns 
resolver and I can’t apply host header in the request . 

Is it possible to override dns resolver in urllib2 or something else ? 

>>> req = urllib2.Request(url='https://google.com/')
>>> f = urllib2.urlopen(req)
>>> print f.read()

I wanted to control the IPs which urllib2 is trying to connect . 


I Hope I am some sense out of my question , 

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: Question regarding DNS resolution in urllib2

[saurabh verma]

On 15-Jun-2011, at 6:13 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:34 AM, saurabh verma  wrote:
>> hi ,
>> 
>> I trying to use urllib2 in my script , but the problem is lets say a domains 
>> resolves to multiple IPs , If the URL is served by plain http , I can add 
>> “Host: domain” header and check whether all IPs are returning proper 
>> responses or not , but in case of https , I have to trust on my local 
>> machines dns resolver and I can’t apply host header in the request .
> 
> Regarding Host: headers, experimentation showed that urllib2 did
> indeed send one (I tested using Python 2.7.1 on Windows, talking to a
> snooping HTTPS server running on a Linux box beside me - source code
> available if you're curious, but it's not Python).

Ok thats informative , thanks :)  . But my problem lies in testing https based 
virtual served by nginx when the domain is load balanced by DNS . 

Example , 

I have “http://something.com” and “https://something.com” both served by two 
servers and something.com resolves to two ips IPA,IPB . lets say i want to test 
both servers on http i can do the following 

curl “http://IPA/” -H “Host: something.com"
curl “http://IPB/” -H “Host: something.com”


But in the case of https , I can do above because https handshake is based on 
the domain i am trying to connect , so lets say I want to following inside a 
python  script using libcurl2 but without touching /etc/hosts , 

curl “https://something.com” , now something.com will try to connect to either 
IPA or IPB which I don’t have control over , I know internally it must be 
calling a DNS resolver libarary of python , I want to control over that , may 
be libcurl2 exposing a function to do some DNS altering . 

Is it worth hacking libcurl2 code for something like , Also i’m just not more 
than 1 week exprienced in python , but i do enjoy your mailing list , awesome 
participation . 


Thanks , 

Saurabh Verma 


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Re: Question regarding DNS resolution in urllib2

[saurabh verma]

>
>
>
> If you edit your hosts file, it will affect where something.com points
> - you can force it to be IPA and then test, then force it to IPB and
> test. You'll still be downloading https://something.com so the HTTPS
> handshake should work exactly the same way.
>
>
there are issues with editing /etc/hosts , what if i don't have sudo access
on the target server ? I need a way out programmatically to fix this problem
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Re: Question regarding DNS resolution in urllib2

[saurabh verma]

> 
> You don't need to edit it on the server; just use any handy computer.
> You need only tinker with the configuration on the client, not the
> server.
> 

Hmm true , Ok i can widen the problem statement  but editing /etc/hosts still 
looks Ok for my test server . ( Thinking of putting this as a nagios plugin on 
the servers .. that will not be a viable right now ) 

Thanks chris. 

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Re: Question regarding DNS resolution in urllib2

[saurabh verma]

Michael Hrivnak wrote:

The latest libcurl includes the CURLOPTS_RESOLVE option
(http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/curl_easy_setopt.html) that will do
what you want.  It may not have made its way into pycurl yet, but you
could just call the command-line curl binary with the --resolve
option.  This feature was introduced in version 7.21.3.

Michael
  


Hey Michael , Thanks for the response . Thats exactly what i was looking 
for.


"curl binary with the --resolve" ?

--(0)> curl --resolve
curl: option --resolve: is unknown
curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information
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--(2)> curl -V
curl 7.19.7 (universal-apple-darwin10.0) libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l 
zlib/1.2.3



Couldn't find it .

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Want to build an app for linux

[saurabh verma]

Hi all ,

May be I'm just asking a silly/old question .

I have some open web APIs which i can use , on it  I want to develop an 
desktop application , probably cross platform but mostly I'm aiming at 
*unix platforms . 

I've got no experience in programming desktop application , but thats 
not a issue , I can do it . But i need to know right technology stack i 
could thinking of using. python or may be java or python/QT or google 
chrome platform.


May be someone can suggest me some online tutorials/references , or any 
help appreciated.


Thanks in advance 


~saurabh


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Re: Want to build an app for linux

[saurabh verma]

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 15:55 +0530, saurabh verma wrote:
  

Hi all ,
May be I'm just asking a silly/old question .
I have some open web APIs which i can use , on it  I want to develop an 
desktop application , probably cross platform but mostly I'm aiming at 
*unix platforms . 
I've got no experience in programming desktop application , but thats 
not a issue , I can do it . But i need to know right technology stack i 
could thinking of using. python or may be java or python/QT or google 
chrome platform.
May be someone can suggest me some online tutorials/references , or any 
help appreciated.



I've found Python + Gtk (which includes Glade) to be a very productive
solution.
<http://pygtk.org/>
<http://www.pygtk.org/articles/application-pygtk-glade/Building_an_Application_with_PyGTK_and_Glade.htm>

  

Hmm thanks for the response adam , I'll definitely check it out.

Quick question : Is creating jazzy UI feasible with python + gtk ? like 
round shaped corners , color schemes etc etc.


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Re: Want to build an app for linux

[saurabh verma]

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote:

> Hi Saurabh,
>
> I'm an experienced developer with quite a few years invested in both
> desktop and web development. But up until a few weeks ago, I'd really
> never touched Python much less developed a desktop app in it.
>
> I can tell you that the absolute easiest way to get started is this stack:
>
> PyGTK
> Glade
> Python
>
> Using those tools you'll be able to quickly learn to build desktop
> apps in Python with *very* little stress.
>
> Hope this helps and welcome to the list!
>
>
> hey anthony thanks for the help , Yes its definitely helpful . I have got
two recommendations for pygtk/glade :)  . I surely will be taking a deep
dive in it very soon.

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Re: Want to build an app for linux

[saurabh verma]

I prefer QT and you have qt-creator:
http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools
and PyQT/SIP:
http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro

IMHO you will get a better looking thing than with gtk2.

  

Thanks Aho , Will surely look into it .
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Re: Want to build an app for linux

[saurabh verma]

J.O. Aho wrote:

saurabh verma wrote:

  

Quick question : Is creating jazzy UI feasible with python + gtk ? like
round shaped corners , color schemes etc etc.



Button shapes and colors are generally done in themes and luckily people using
QT/gtk2 are allowed to change themes themselves which makes that the apps they
use looks as they wish and not how a dictator want them to look (mainly
thinking of mr gates and & co).


  

Thats really informative tip.

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Re: Parsing a graph image

[saurabh verma]

On 13-May-2011, at 5:54 PM, Bastian Ballmann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Fri, 13 May 2011 14:01:48 +0200
> schrieb Ulrich Eckhardt :
> 
>> I'm not sure I understand 100% what you want. If you want to extract 
>> ("parse") the data that is contained in an image file, I have no clue
>> how to do that.
> 
> Yes, I want to extract the data that is contained in an image file.
> Greets
> 

I guess it requires some kind of image processing , where you can move around 
image pixel by pixel and somehow figure out what color is present in that pixel 
. If there isn’t much noise in the image you should sharp contrast and would be 
able to differentiate between two colors ? if yes ( I don’t know matlab might 
provide some tools ..  just guessing ) then its easy i think to pick (X,Y) as 
time and value ? 

~saurabh verma 


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Best IDE for Python?

[Saurabh Sardeshpande]

Pardon if this is already discussed extensively. But what is the best
IDE for Python for a newbie? I have experience in C++ and Java and this
is the first time I am learning a scripting language.
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Usage opinion wanted

[Saurabh Agrawal]

Hi group:

I hope that you good people here could help me with a decision I am finding
hard to make.

I am about to develop a MIS type application for a Non for profit
organization teaching young children in India.

I am trying to use this opportunity to make myself learn python, and if
required the whole web based development paradigm using django.

I have experience of c++ graphical algorithms development.

Now obviously this application would be database based and database
manipulation would be the major part. It would be mostly used across desktop
computers in the organization running Windows XP. The decision which I am
unable to make is that should I use django for this project? My issues are:

1. This application would be run on desktops, so GUI toolkits such as PyQT
might suffice.
2. Making good interfaces for web would require additional learning on my
part such as HTML, CSS and Javascript, an area  in which I have absolutely
no expertise, just a very basic idea.

So what do you guys suggest? If learning the above things would still give
me an edge( in terms of time required for development) over PyQt based
interfaces, in terms of automated databse manipulation tools such as the
admin interface, I would go for it and it might be a good experience for me.

Thanks for reading this slightly incoherent and maybe off-topic mail.

All suggestions are welcome and I would be grateful for them.

Regards,
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[Novice]Installing eric4 with python 2.6

[Saurabh Agrawal]

Hi,

I am fairly new to python. Coming from a world of IDEs, I wanted a fancier
one than IDLE. Hence, I downloaded eric4. When I tried to compile it, it
asked for PyQt4, which I again downloaded (exe for Windows XP) and installed
it. It seems to be properly installed as I can invoke "import PyQt4" from
IDLE without any complaints.

However, when I try to install eric4, I am getting the following error:

D:\Python26\eric4-4.2.2a>python install.py
Sorry, please install PyQt4.
Error: Module use of python25.dll conflicts with this version of Python.

So, won't eric4 work with python 2.6? I have searched on the net for this,
but am unable to find any solution.

I am new to python, so please excuse if this has an obvious solution.
Thanks.

OS: Windows XP SP2.

Regards,
Saurabh.
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Re: [Novice]Installing eric4 with python 2.6

[Saurabh Agrawal]

>
>
> PyQt supported Python 2.6 on the day it was released.
>
> A snapshot of the PyQt Windows installer for Python 2.6 can be downloaded
> from the same page as you downloaded the installer for Python 2.5.
>
> Phil
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>


Thanks Phil, it worked. My bad, sorry.
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Re: [Novice]Installing eric4 with python 2.6

[Saurabh Agrawal]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Saurabh Agrawal wrote:
> >
> > PyQt supported Python 2.6 on the day it was released.
> >
> > A snapshot of the PyQt Windows installer for Python 2.6 can be
> > downloaded
> > from the same page as you downloaded the installer for Python 2.5.
> >
> > Phil
> > --
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> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Phil, it worked. My bad, sorry.
> >
> ... and thanks for offering such great support to 2.6, Phil. PyQt is one
> of those package that just goes on Just Working (tm).
>
> regards
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Just yesterday evening I bought the book "Rapid GUI Development with Python
and QT" where I realized that Phil is the creator of PyQt. I cannot believe
that he took the trouble of clearing the most trivial query from my side.

I am already loving this Open Source World!

Sorry for this off-topic mail, but I had to do it.

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Lambda function

[aditya saurabh]

I defined two functions - lets say
fa = lambda x: 2*x
fb = lambda x: 3*x
Now I would like to use fa*fb in terms of x
is there a way?
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web application for scientific puposes

[Saurabh Kabra]

Dear Group,
I am new to python and I mostly use basic python scripts for small
mathematical/scientific/intrumentation applications.

Now, I want to make these application available to others by converting them
to web based applications (so that it can be used by several people on our
internal network without them having to install the application and python
on every single computer).

I am looking for the best available web framework for python which would be
well suited for a scientific application. My requirements are lots of
interactability like buttons, menus, drop downs etc. and good plotting -
preferably interactive. The faster the better but speed is not a huge issue
here - neither is web traffic. Can you guys recommend packages or
combination of packages for such an application.

Thanks in advance

Saurabh
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running exe file

[Saurabh Sharma]

How can I run .exe file from my python script?
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A Good Tutorial on Python Decorators

[Saurabh Chaturvedi]

https://opensource.google.com/projects/py-decorators-tutorial

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Re: Meta: double posts [Was: School Management System in Python]

[saurabh chaturvedi]

No, I am not. I'm not posting to Python-list@python.org. However, I'm using
my own NNTP client I built as an exercise. Maybe it has a bug. I'll work on
it.

Thanks!
Sam

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Tim Golden  wrote:

> Are you posting both to python-list@python.org and to comp.lang.python
> -- and under different names?
>
> If you are, please use one or the other: they mirror both ways, and
> we're seeing double posts which the gateway thinks are different because
> of a different sending address.
>
> Thanks
>
> TJG
>
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Are these tutorials the best tutorials for learning Python?

[Saurabh Hooda]

Hello,
https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-python proclaims that it's a collection of the 
best tutorials recommended by the programming community. Do you agree? Is there 
any better tutorial?

Thanks in advance,
Saurabh Hooda
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[Repost] Are these tutorials the best tutorials for learning Python?

[Saurabh Hooda]

Hello, 
I am the co-founder of Hackr.io, a community where developers can share and 
recommend the tutorials they have found useful. This is the page for Python 
tutorials: https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-python
I am interested in listening to your feedback on how we can improve Hackr.io 
Python tutorials? Are the tutorials listed for Python good ones? Am all ears.

Thanks in advance, 
Saurabh Hooda 

PS: Reposting because in the first post I didn't mention that I am the 
co-founder. One group-user highlighted that it is wrong and now am reposting it 
with the edit. 
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