Re: merits of Lisp vs Python
mystilleef wrote: > John Thingstad wrote: >> You are just being silly. >> Lisp's OO environment CLOS is vastly superior to Python classes. >> Both in terms of expressive power and flexibility. >> You might even find out if you ever learnt how to use it. >> > > Donkeys have wings. And thus you think you can fly? >> In the windows world the best way to access system libraries are >> via .NET. Thus each language inventing it's own libraries is quickly >> becoming > > You're only proving my point. Why do you think most windows developers > use .NET? I didn't realize .NET is a *language*. >> Python is fine if you approach programming as Lego, simply gluing together >> libraries. > > You mean it's fine for what 90% of programmers do? > >> But if you want to do some serious algorithmic's you may find that it is >> just to slow. > > Slow for users who aren't familiar with Psyco, Pyrex and C extensions, > sure. > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Concepts and Confusions of Prefix, Infix, Postfix and Fully Functional Notations
Twisted wrote: > On Jun 9, 8:21 pm, "BCB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> On Jun 9, 6:49 am, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In particular, Perl code looks more like line > noise than like code from any known programming language. ;)) Hmm - I know of APL and SNOBOL. -- Lew >>> TECO editor commands. I don't have direct experience with TECO, but >>> I've heard that a common diversion was to type random characters on >>> the command line, and see what the editor would do. >>> -- Paul >> J >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/ > > Oh come on! Toy languages (such as any set of editor commands) and > joke languages (ala Intercal) don't count, even if they are > technically Turing-complete. ;) > > Nor does anything that was designed for the every-character-at-a- > premium punch-card era, particularly if it is, or rhymes with, > "COBOL". > > Those have excuses, like it's a joke or it's a constrained > environment. Perl, unfortunately, has no such excuses. If there were > such a thing as "embedded Perl", I'd have to hesitate here, but since > there isn't... Neither APL nor Snobol nor J are toy or joke languages. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: John Bokma harassment
Bill Atkins wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Ben Bullock wrote: >>> "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you believe this lobbying to my webhosting provider is unjust, >please write to my web hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't you just change your provider? It would take less time than this. >>> >>>Are you joking. "Just change your provider?" Do you have a little >>>button on your computer that says "Change provider"? Cool! :) >> >>No, it will cost Xah money. In the end he will be with a bullet proof >>hoster, like other kooks on Usenet, or get the message. >> >> >>>C'mon, John Bokma (and everyone else dumb enough to crosspost their >>>shushing to every group on the crosspost list -- why do they do that? >> >>So other people can read that reporting Xah *does* have an effect. A lot >>of people think that a kill file is the only solution. > > > You win my unofficial contest for "Usenet Tool of the Year." It is > not difficult to skip to the next file or to add a sender to a > killfile. It is certainly less of a hassle than all this complaining > you do. No shit. Lately it seems that for every "spam" post of Xah's, there's at three or more by John *to all the same newsgroups* bitching about Xah's use of bandwidth. Pot, meet kettle. I'm killfiling Xah for being a useless twit and killfiling John for being a prick about it. --Larry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
