Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-09-30 Thread Klaus Schilling
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Sure, but where does the infection thing come in? Suppose RMS
> publishes a new library call add-42, whose api is add-42, inputs n,
> outputs n+42, source left as an exercise, and Kenny decides he can use
> it, it is great. Now if Kenny uses it in his commercial software,

commercial software can be free as well, such as the GNU Ada compiler.

> add-42 does not somehow become less free to ride 'neath the starry
> skies above, don't fence me in. But RMS wants Kenny's hide. Nothing
> Kenny wrote derived from add-42, but RMS wants it all.

that's because it's immoral not to give it all


> Kenny happened
> to solve the traveling salesman problem and protein-folding and passed
> the fricking Turing test by using add-42 wherever he needed 42 added
> to a number, and  RMS wants credit and ownership and control of it
> all. He and his license  shall now dictate access and use of all that
> code. The handcuffs are on, and they are inscribed "free".

of course they are free
>
> No wonder the GPL has gone nowhere. Freely. RMS reasonably wanted that
> add-42 not get co-opted, but that in no way necessitated the land grab
> that is GPL. The GPL is a gratuitous reach only fancifully justified
> by wanting to ensure that open source remain open.

which is necessary in a moral culture.
Only an immoral culture may accept non-disclosure

> So this has nothing
> to do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
> political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
>

private property is unethical

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Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-10-01 Thread Klaus Schilling
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Oh, I missed that. I just saw something about software should be
> shared

of course it should, as otherwise it would be immoral,

> and programmers should be content with an hourly wage, not
> sales.
>

only greedy creeps wouldn't be content

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Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-10-09 Thread Klaus Schilling
George Neuner  writes:
>
> Or, how about politics?  Another example from the Judeo-Christian
> Bible (that is, from the Old Testament), politicking was the sin that
> resulted in Lucifer's fall from God's grace.

that's not a God, but an inferior demiurge, 
as correctly figured by Marcion

> [Yeah, I know the official story is that Lucifer's sin was envy.

the official story is thoroughly flawed.
of course Lucifer means carrier of light,
and thus has nothing to do with sin.
but the contrary.
Lucifer brings enlightenment to those people
who are enchained in the darkness of oppression and stupor
the demiurge imposed upon them.
Thus it's Plato who equalled the situation of
unenlightened mankind with that of prisoners in a dark cave.
Sin is the rejection of the light brought by 
the carrier of light.
Same goes for those who have once seen the light of
the Symbolic Expressions, but continue rejoycing in
infix Syntax. 

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