Re: statsmodels.api
Oscar Benjamin gmail.com> writes: > > On 17 September 2013 14:35, Josef Pktd gmail.com> wrote: > >> (As an aside, this is all much simpler if you're using Ubuntu or some > >> other Linux distro rather than Windows.) > > > > scientific python on a stick > > > > https://code.google.com/p/winpython/wiki/PackageIndex_33 > > Thanks, I've just installed that and I'll try it out later. > > > I haven't seen any problems so far on python 3.3 > > The statsmodels test suite passes without problems on python 3.3 also, as far as I remember. > > (and no problems using Windows. just use the right binaries.) > > Well that's exactly my point. On a Linux distro you would have the > right binaries first time. No need to search through project webpages > or documentation, weigh up different installers, or download 750MB of > software that you mostly won't use. Similarly on a Linux distro it's a > lot easier to get all of the build tools set up to build these things > from source if you'd prefer. This might be true for many Linux users. However, the last time I tried to install something in a virtual Linux OS that was not in the standard repository, I was completely lost. (I'm a Windows user.) > > Windows users are often dependent on inconsistent sources of binaries. > In this case I imagine that the OP installed numpy from sourceforge > since it has 3.3 binaries but it doesn't have the same for scipy at > which point googling would easily lead to Cristoph's page. Another problem with relying on binaries on Windows is when the matching binaries are not available. For example, the Windows binaries on pypi of pandas and statsmodels are compiled against the latest numpy release and will not work with older numpy versions. ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17709641/valueerror-numpy-dtype-has-the-wrong-size-try-recompiling/18369312 ) On the other hand, python-xy comes with MingW, and I never had any problems compiling pandas and statsmodels for any version combination of python and numpy that I tested (although 32 bit only so far, I never set up the Microsoft sdk). (latest news: moving to MingW-64 for numpy and scipy, and related packages, might be on the way.) Josef > > Oscar > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: statsmodels.api
Oscar Benjamin gmail.com> writes: > > On 17 September 2013 15:52, Josef Perktold gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On the other hand, python-xy comes with MingW, and I never had any problems > > compiling pandas and statsmodels for any version combination of python and > > numpy that I tested (although 32 bit only so far, I never set up the > > Microsoft sdk). > > Just out of interest: out of the box Python.org distutils is > incompatible with recent versions of MinGW. If Python-xy distributes > MinGW (and it works) then they're either creating a special patched > MinGW set up or patching distutils. I don't want to install Python-xy > myself since it'll clobber my existing Python installation but could > you answer the following for me: > > 1) What gcc version did Python-xy install for you? > > 2) Does the distutils.cygwincompiler module it installs contain the > following lines (around about line 300) specifically with the > '-mno-cygwin' option? > > self.set_executables(compiler='gcc -mno-cygwin -O -Wall', > compiler_so='gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall', > compiler_cxx='g++ -mno-cygwin -O -Wall', > linker_exe='gcc -mno-cygwin', > linker_so='%s -mno-cygwin %s %s' I installed python-xy 2 years ago with python 2.6 and didn't update, so my information is not up-to-date It looks like my MingW version uses mingw32-gcc-4.4.0.exe for python 2.6 which came with python-xy: self.set_executables(compiler='gcc -mno-cygwin -O -Wall', compiler_so='gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall', compiler_cxx='g++ -mno-cygwin -O -Wall', linker_exe='gcc -mno-cygwin', linker_so='%s -mno-cygwin %s %s' % (self.linker_dll, shared_option, entry_point)) However, I'm running python 2.5, 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3 additionally. And they are all python.org versions without any changes (except IDLE bugs :). I don't have any compilation problems with any of them. Until recently statsmodels used distutils from numpy which adds some patches AFAIK. The current statsmodels setup.py just uses plain distutils and setuptools. (The setup.py is largely copied from pandas which has a lot more C extensions than statsmodels.) numpy scipy binaries for Windows are still compiled against MingW 3.x, but David Cournapeau is looking into upgrading to the latest MingW(-64) right now. also (from some comments about problems a long time ago): I don't have cygwin installed, so there is no confusion between cygwin and msys/mingw paths possible. Josef > > Oscar > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: statsmodels.api
Josef Perktold gmail.com> writes: > > Oscar Benjamin gmail.com> writes: > > > > > On 17 September 2013 15:52, Josef Perktold gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, python-xy comes with MingW, and I never had any problems > > > compiling pandas and statsmodels for any version combination of python and > > > numpy that I tested (although 32 bit only so far, I never set up the > > > Microsoft sdk). > > > > Just out of interest: out of the box Python.org distutils is > > incompatible with recent versions of MinGW. If Python-xy distributes > > MinGW (and it works) then they're either creating a special patched > > MinGW set up or patching distutils. I don't want to install Python-xy > > myself since it'll clobber my existing Python installation but could > > you answer the following for me: > > > > 1) What gcc version did Python-xy install for you? I did a bit of homework. I didn't know about the -mno-cygwin issue since it didn't affect me yet. python-xy is staying below 4.6: GCC Core, G77, G++ 4.5.2 ; MingW 4.5.2.3 https://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/wiki/StandardPlugins and has open issue on it pandas has an open issue where a user reported problems with --mno-cygwin. Josef > > Josef > > > > > Oscar > > > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
