Problem installing 3.2.1 on a Linux server
My ISP (Bluehost) does not yet support Python version 3, but gave me shell access (no sudo) so that I can install Python 3 myself on my server account (running Apache). So I uploaded the standard Python.org installation package (Python 3.2.1 for Linux) and followed instructions, starting with ./configure. These instructions had worked for me before, to install Python3 on a Linux netbook. But on the server, ./configure starts fine, but later stops with an error. Here is the section of the output where the error occurred: *checking for build directories... done* *configure: creating ./config.status* *config.status: creating Makefile.pre* *config.status: creating Modules/Setup.config* *config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Misc/python.pc.in'* Then the ./configure step stopped. Needless to say, the next step, Make, did not work because there was no Makefile. Others have received the same message, in different contexts. But I haven't found a solution. Two action items: * For the Python community, it would help to fix this problem in the standard Python distribution, if possible. People do want to run Python3 on more servers. I could help by testing the fix to see if the Python3 install now works. * Meanwhile I'd appreciate any advice on a temporary fix (such as changing the configure file, or where to find a package that I could install on the server before installing Python3). All I need for now is the most basic installation, to support CGI and Web forms. John -- John S. James www.RepliCounts.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problem installing 3.2.1 on a Linux server
Thanks, your reply helped. The problem seems to be the autoconfig -- I was using version 2.59 instead of 2.68. However, the host will not let users install 2.68. So I'm sending them feedback, suggesting a number of reasons for supporting 3.2 for their server accounts, including: * Popularity of Python, TIOBE recognition; * Wide consensus that new Python programmers should learn version 3, unless they must maintain legacy software; * 3.2 will be around for at least another year before 3.3 is released; * Lack of 3.2 in low-cost hosts (3.1 is available) -- a competitive advantage; * 3.2 improves future library compatibility, vs. 3.1; * Installing 3.2 should not affect any existing customers, unless they choose to use it. We should explore why hosting services are resistant to supporting the current version of Python (plus an important older version, 2.7). Other supported versions could be deprecated -- and eventually removed by the ISPs, except for the few customers who choose to install it themselves. John S James www.replicounts.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Ned Deily To: python-list@python.org Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:09:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Problem installing 3.2.1 on a Linux server In article , John S James wrote: > My ISP (Bluehost) does not yet support Python version 3, but gave me shell > access (no sudo) so that I can install Python 3 myself on my server account > (running Apache). So I uploaded the standard Python.org installation package > (Python 3.2.1 for Linux) and followed instructions, starting with > ./configure. These instructions had worked for me before, to install Python3 > on a Linux netbook. > > But on the server, ./configure starts fine, but later stops with an error. > Here is the section of the output where the error occurred: > *checking for build directories... done* > *configure: creating ./config.status* > *config.status: creating Makefile.pre* > *config.status: creating Modules/Setup.config* > *config.status: error: cannot find input file: `Misc/python.pc.in'* > > Then the ./configure step stopped. Needless to say, the next step, Make, did > not work because there was no Makefile. Works for me on a current Debian system. Are you downloading the source from python.org? Did you verify that the file is created by tar? $ curl -O http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.2.1/Python-3.2.1.tgz $ tar xzf Python-3.2.1.tgz $ cd ./Python-3.2.1/ $ ls -l Misc/python.pc.in -rw-r- 1 nad nad 293 Jul 8 23:58 Misc/python.pc.in $ ./configure [...] configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile.pre config.status: creating Modules/Setup.config config.status: creating Misc/python.pc config.status: creating Modules/ld_so_aix config.status: creating pyconfig.h creating Modules/Setup creating Modules/Setup.local creating Makefile If you are still having problems, chances are you have an out-of-date or incomplete version of GNU autotools which contains the macros and tools that are used by the ./configure script. On my system: $ autoconf --version autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.68 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- John S. James www.aidsnews.org www.RepliCounts.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Installed 3.5.0 successfully on Windows 10, but where is DDLs, Doc, Lib, etc?
I installed 3.5.0 today and it's working fine -- either from the command prompt, or running a .py script. But the Python 3.4 that was previously installed on the computer had a Python34 folder, which contained DDLs, Doc, include, Lib, and various other folders and files. I haven't found a comparable Python35 folder anywhere. I'd like to find the 3.5 Doc folder at least. I looked for the installation directory using the command prompt, but at c:\Users\(my name)\ there is no AppData. Where can I find that folder? Or can I just ignore it for now (and get the documentation elsewhere)? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installed 3.5.0 successfully on Windows 10, but where is DDLs, Doc, Lib, etc?
Thank you, this is very helpful.
John
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Zachary Ware wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:05 PM, John S. James
> wrote:
> > I installed 3.5.0 today and it's working fine -- either from the command
> prompt, or running a .py script.
> >
> > But the Python 3.4 that was previously installed on the computer had a
> Python34 folder, which contained DDLs, Doc, include, Lib, and various other
> folders and files. I haven't found a comparable Python35 folder anywhere.
> I'd like to find the 3.5 Doc folder at least.
> >
> > I looked for the installation directory using the command prompt, but at
> c:\Users\(my name)\ there is no AppData.
> >
> > Where can I find that folder? Or can I just ignore it for now (and get
> the documentation elsewhere)?
>
> Python 3.5 changed the default install directory on Windows to better
> fit in with other Windows software and to alleviate security concerns
> (C:\Python34, for example, is world-writable, whereas C:\Program
> Files\Python 3.5\, which is the new default all-users install
> location, can only be written to by administrators). True per-user
> installs are now also possible, and install to your user directory.
>
> You can find where Python is installed using Python itself: try `py
> -3.5 -c "import sys, os;os.system('explorer ' + sys.prefix)"` at the
> Command Prompt, which uses the Python Launcher for Windows to start
> Python 3.5 and execute a command to start a Windows Explorer instance
> in the directory containing Python.
>
> By the way, C:\Users\(your name)\AppData does exist, but is hidden by
> default. It will tab-complete, though; at Command Prompt do `dir
> C:\Users\(your name)\App`.
>
> You can also get always-up-to-date documentation from
> https://docs.python.org/3.5/. There's also a download page at
> https://docs.python.org/3.5/download.html if you prefer a local copy
> of one of the various formats available there.
>
> Hope this helps,
> --
> Zach
>
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