Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding
On Jun 25, 12:32 am, Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks like there are > several utterly different pieces of software that have one thing in > common - the name "emacs"... > > > When you start emacs in a text console, you see this: > > > > Welcome to GNUEmacs, one component of the GNU/Linux operating system. > > Get help C-h (Hold down CTRL and press h) > > Emacsmanual C-h r > > Emacstutorial C-h t Undo changes C-x u > > Really? That is not what I recall seeing. Are you talking aboutemacs- > the-text-mode-editor, oremacs-the-hybrid-somethingorother-when-you- > happen-to-run-it-from-the-command-prompt-on-unix? Because I've been > discussing the former. Everyone now uses http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ or a minor derivative of it. Its official distribution FTP location is http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/ And for the Windows port, the official FTP is here http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/ We don't care about the 1970 version of Emacs, because of course back then there WAS NO GUI. - JackT -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding
On Jun 25, 12:56 am, Cor Gest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some entity, AKA JackT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote this mindboggling stuff: > (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) No need to be insulting. > > > We don't care about the 1970 version ofEmacs, > > because of course back then there WAS NO GUI. > > But if you are blind as bat, any 2007's GUI is useless. > You may have missed part of the discussion. Today's GNU emacs will still run with most of its features (even keyboard-driven text-drawn menu) when you run it on a GUI-less environment. At the same time, today's GNU emacs, when run on a GUI, will be able to pop up file-selection menus, display colors, etc. etc. - JackT -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding
On Jun 25, 10:01 pm, Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Regarding these graphical derivatives (apparently plural) of emacs, > has nobody considered that this means that Xah had already won before > he'd even fired his shot? You have no idea what Xah was talking about. Xah knows the ONE TRUE EMACS has had GUI capability since early 1980s. To summarize: Richard Stallman was the original author of the original Emacs, but he wrote it while he was an employee of another company, so that company owned his code. Richard Stallman then quit the company, rewrote Emacs from scratch, and this emacs is now sometimes called the GNU emacs. GNU emacs (and forks of it) is the only emacs today. GNU emacs is a continuous product from about 1980 to 2007: Richard Stallman is still writing code for it even now. GNU emacs will gladly use the GUI library on the system if available. So GNU emacs will launch Windows file menus on Windows, and will launch GTK file menu on Linux, etc. GNU emacs will also run in a text mode window gladly. I use it all the time when I'm connected to a remote system via SSH. GNU emacs starts out with an initial help screen every time you run it. Every time. If you don't believe one (or more) fact, please point out which one, and we can try to prove it. - JackT -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding
On Jun 26, 12:23 am, JackT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the ONE TRUE EMACS has had GUI capability > since early 1980s. Sorry, I meant early 1990s. I believe it was 1993 or so (it is in the web page). - JackT -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
