33 Video free Course - Python

2014-08-07 Thread Everything You Need To Know
We have put together a neat playlist to learn python, with some really neat 
tricks and exercises.

Playlist Link :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCad91ea17ynqc0cTokBG3bg/playlists

exercises include :
Graphics Calculator with check for zeros
Zoom Function for Graphics Window
Mandelbrot set
Game of Life (To come)


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Free Video Course + cool exercises

2014-08-18 Thread Everything You Need To Know
VIDEO PYTHON COURSE - 33 Videos and growing rapidly.
Emphasis is on trying to make programming free and fun! Grow your own fun 
programs like the Mandelbrot set and John Conways Game of Life.

See here for link to Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCad91ea17ynqc0cTokBG3bg

This is a complete list with short description of videos for Python 3.0 + 
Course. 
Playlists include:

19 video tutorial: Great for revision or if you have come from another 
language, each ending with a quick demonstration with neat tips and tricks 
along the way.
33 video Course: Great for beginners covering everything from downloading and 
programming Paradigms to Functions, Modules and soon Classes and Object 
Orientation. This is a combination of the Tutorials to introduce you to a topic 
followed by an exercise to hammer it home and reveal more neat tricks and tips.
13 video exercises: Use these exercises to see what we have learnt in action. 
Also take a look at some really cool things that can be accomplished using some 
simple control flow. Grow your own Game of life 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOcj15AAxQ), create your own Mandelbrot set 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqfbDAzA1Sw), and more from these fun 
exercises.
+ More videos for helpful information.


Complete Video List:

Python 0.0 - Downloading and installing Running 
Time: 1:47

Eyn2k about downloading and installing Python 3.0 + to get started scripting in 
Python. You may want to use another Python Text editor with line numbers such 
as PyCharm or Boa.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x6Jb_U13FI

Python 0.5 - Inbuilt ModulesRunning 
Time: 4:06

Eyn2k about Pythons inbuilt modules such as generating random numbers and 
accessing the clock.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuArF7KHrBY

Python 0.6 - Graphics ModuleRunning 
Time: 4:17

Eyn2k about the graphics module created by John Zelle, this module is a great, 
fun way to learn scripting in Python. It will help us to visualize our code and 
be able to quickly grasp Object Orientated Paradigms.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psYQsSHnHRE

Python 1.0 - Arithmetic Running 
Time: 4:53

Eyn2k about working with Arithmetic in Python; Precedence and tricks.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnclgVVky38

Python 1.1 - Arithmetic Running 
Time: 6:44

An in depth look at arithmetic operations in the Python console. How to solve a 
quadratic equation in Python and a quick look at floating point errors.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv1_hQU6pio

Python 1.2 - Floor and Modulo

Eyn2k about using the floor and modulo operands in Python. These took me some 
time to get my head around at first so taking some time to familiarise yourself 
with them is no shame.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HHpQQHsaRE

Python 1.3 - cube roots Running 
Time: 2:01

Eyn2k about accessing cube roots of values and floating point errors in Python.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpdxxvg_WIM

Python 2.0 - Assigning Variables
Running Time: 2:27

Eyn2k about assigning variables in python and the Python "Run-time stack".
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpmTJ7h5tU

Python 2.1 - Exercises Variables
Running Time: 2:55

Take some time to play with variables, building the tools to write 'beautiful 
code' in future. (See link below to see a great talk on 'the beautiful code')
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN3YF7x2P3c

Python 3.0 - Variable Types Running 
Time: 5:19

Eyn2k on Variable Types, dynamically typed languages and an introduction to 
sets.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRPm89biCYw

Python 3.1 - Assigning Variables
Running Time: 3:26

Take some time to play variable types, fundamental for strong programming.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X6YfB1gYcE

Python 4.0 - StringsRunning 
Time: 5:38

Eyn2k about string manipulation in Python. String concatenation, repetition, 
immutable and mutable and indexing. 
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaYVwuTNAE

Python 4.1 - StringsRunning 
Time: 2:28

These tools are often overlooked with great peril to the individual later when 
programming, you will encounter inputs which need manipulation often. 
Understanding string manipulation will help you to understand how the Python 
Interpreter reads your code.
See link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAlOiQqgmUM

Python 5.0 - T

Re: Free Video Course + cool exercises

2014-08-18 Thread Everything You Need To Know
> [
> I sincerely hope you're not teaching people to install Python 3.0! But
> 
> what _is_ the minimum expected version for this course? And what
> 
> platforms do you support?

Sorry, I have tried to refer to version of #3.0+ meaning most current version, 
though I wanted to make it clear we are not using versions of #2 because there 
is such a big difference between the two.
As for Platforms, we work off the 'IDLE' text editor from 
https://www.python.org/ for windows, though which text editor you choose really 
should not matter in this course, except for the text editor.

> 
> 
> 
> The use of "Python 0.0" for the videos seems likely to be confusing.
> 
> It may be clearer if you put some other words with it, so it doesn't
> 
> look like an actual Python version number.
> ]

Yeah! I do agree with 0.0 being confusing, though this is just a result of the 
structure of the courses, because there is a 'tutorial' playlist for review and 
a course for beginners. Python 1.0 basically means you have started learning 
python, anything before that is extra information (Though also necessary). I 
will see what I come up with for Downloading other than 0.0

No experience is required for the course, all necessary tools will be learnt 
along the way.

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Re: Free Video Course + cool exercises

2014-08-18 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Monday, 18 August 2014 22:23:43 UTC+9:30, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> >> [
> 
> >> I sincerely hope you're not teaching people to install Python 3.0! But
> 
> >>
> 
> >> what _is_ the minimum expected version for this course? And what
> 
> >>
> 
> >> platforms do you support?
> 
> >
> 
> > Sorry, I have tried to refer to version of #3.0+ meaning most current 
> > version, though I wanted to make it clear we are not using versions of #2 
> > because there is such a big difference between the two.
> 
> 
> 
> I figured you'd be getting the latest 3.x, but your course may well
> 
> depend on some specific minimum version, in which case you can say
> 
> something like "3.3+". But, that plus this comment...
> 
> 

Great suggestion, I will update this. Thank you

> 
> > As for Platforms, we work off the 'IDLE' text editor from 
> > https://www.python.org/ for windows, though which text editor you choose 
> > really should not matter in this course, except for the text editor.
> 
> 
> 
> ... makes me think you're very much Windows specific here. Is that the
> 
> case? Normally, "platform" means Windows/Linux/Mac OS/etc/etc.
> 

You are correct in suggesting that the current course is Windows Specific, 
though as far as I currently understand it only effects conditional imports 
such as time.clock() into time.time(). Which is a great warning to add 
suggestions at appropriate times to deal with these. 

> 
> 
> > Thank you for your time
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for yours! You've made all those videos... I'm just sitting
> 
> here being an arm-chair critic and hoping that it's helpful rather
> 
> than offensive :)
> 

Your opinions have value and are constructive. Thank you for your suggestions.

> 
> 
> ChrisA

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Re: Free Video Course + cool exercises

2014-08-18 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Monday, 18 August 2014 23:13:59 UTC+9:30, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> > You are correct in suggesting that the current course is Windows Specific, 
> > though as far as I currently understand it only effects conditional imports 
> > such as time.clock() into time.time(). Which is a great warning to add 
> > suggestions at appropriate times to deal with these.
> 
> >
> 
> Being Windows-specific isn't a problem, but it would be good to say
> 
> so. (And if you haven't tested out your course on Linux or Mac OS,
> 
> it's best to say you're Windows-only. There'll likely be little bits
> 
> and pieces here and there that won't work, and the only way to know is
> 
> to actually try things.)
> 
> 
> 
> The reason I figured you were assuming Windows is because  it's the
> 
> biggest platform that doesn't come with some Python already installed
> 
> or easily obtainable. With most Linux distributions, Python either
> 
> comes as part of the base system, or is conveniently installed with
> 
> apt-get, yum, pacman, or whatever the standard installer is - but it
> 
> might be not the latest (for instance, the current Debian stable ships
> 
> with Python 3.2, although the next Debian release will have either 3.4
> 
> or 3.5, depending on whether the latter gets ready in time for
> 
> Jessie's feature freeze). So if you target Linux, you'll probably want
> 
> to be very clear about what versions of Python you support. I would
> 
> advise going for 3.3+ or 3.4+ (if you haven't tested on 3.3, say
> 
> 3.4+). On Windows, you can start by walking people through the
> 
> installation, and then they'll get the latest as of their
> 
> installation.
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

Thank you very much ChrisA, your post has been very enlightening and helpful. I 
will try to transfer this knowledge on and I will address platform issues in 
0.7, once I have done addressing programming paradigms adequately (writing the 
quick tutorial atm) with your permission, I will put a small note thanking you 
or this forum for your help.

I was previously made aware of Linux having a base Python, though until you 
pointed it out, the limitations did not occur to me.

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what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
Neat little exercise, surprisingly cool results!
less than 3 minutes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlDjl5JK0eU&feature=youtu.be
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 08:38:16 UTC+9:30, Steven D'Aprano  wrote:
> Chris "Kwpolska" Warrick wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
> >  wrote:
> 
> >> Neat little exercise, surprisingly cool results!
> 
> >> less than 3 minutes!
> 
> >>
> 
> >> [url redacted]
> 
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Please stop spamming with your barely original content.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you think it is spam (or at least borderline), perhaps you should not
> 
> quote the url and provide links to the content?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven

Thank you Steven, I thought most of the exercises I have posted were quiet 
original and still offer interesting results.
In the case of the Mandelbrot set or this one here, I was trying to make 
"programming fun" which is an idea I believe lost since early programming 
generations, and both can be achieved with absolutely minimal knowledge making 
it fun to learn. I do understand where you are coming from 'Chris "Kwpolska" 
Warrick', though, your own self serving link to your own website and 
unproductive post is closer to spam than my own, I offer something practical 
and positive to the community, even if the wrong community to post.
Also the, "Most subscribers are already skilled Python" is a generalization and 
to speak for everyone is not fair.
Where else can I post these if not to a 'forum' regarding the given subject? I 
am by definition working productively with this forum, engaging with an 
audience, which has so far mutually benefited us both, as I have already taken 
requests for tutorials.

And once more "Especially because they are video 
tutorials, which are the worst way to learn anything -- especially 
programming." - this argument is simply invalid. No evidence can be offered to 
back this and some people learn better visualize as I did, because I started in 
a 3D graphical background, I almost needed to visualize Tuples as x, y, z 
co-ordinates to grasp them properly from he start. Everyone is different and we 
should celebrate different approaches!

+ I have attended University and decided that the video series has more to 
offer than a University certificate in terms of knowledge.

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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 11:05:51 UTC+9:30, Ben Finney  wrote:
> Everything You Need To Know  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > I offer something practical and positive to the community, even if the
> 
> > wrong community to post.
> 
> 
> 
> You choose to offer it with a self-aggrandising name instead of your
> 
> real name, which is itself an obnoxious habit.
> 
> 
> 
> The links themselves are, as you acknowledge, not appropriate to this
> 
> discussion forum, they are a blatant attempt to drive traffic to your
> 
> site instead of having a useful discussion here.
> 
> 
> 
> > I am by definition working productively with this forum, engaging with
> 
> > an audience, which has so far mutually benefited us both, as I have
> 
> > already taken requests for tutorials.
> 
> 
> 
> No, you are not working with this forum. Your posts are not aiding
> 
> discussion here, they are advertisements for your channel elsewhere.
> 
> Please don't.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>  \ "[F]reedom of speech does not entail freedom to have your ideas |
> 
>   `\accepted by governments and incorporated into law and policy." |
> 
> _o__)   --Russell Blackford, 2010-03-06 |
> 
> Ben Finney

> "You choose to offer it with a self-aggrandising name instead of your 
> real name, which is itself an obnoxious habit."

This is because I am hoping, the other members currently creatign tutorials 
will be posting and responding to people as well. It is not just one person 
here! To give my name when we are trying to be a small group would not work.

> I am by definition working productively with this forum, engaging with 
> an audience, which has so far mutually benefited us both, as I have 
> already taken requests for tutorials. 

There are links to the video yes, though there is no way to post the video here 
so I do not have a choice...

What would you do in my situation... You are currently working 10 hours a day 
to help an open-source community which I have learnt from over the years. Free 
videos, wikis and forums have been the conduit from which I learnt from (Uni 
was a waste of time).

If my goal is to offer something back to the community (and teach for free what 
cost lots of money at university), and I am covering more advanced topics as we 
speak. 

Do I now have to work more hours, create my own web site as well and own forums 
for given topics and discussions. This is currently just not possible since I 
am basically poor because of University and spending 10 hours a day producing 
videos and trying to maintain a household.
I did look up the definition of a "Forum" and the goals of this forum 
community, and I did not see anything wrong.

Productive suggestions would be helpful, so far productive comments have been 
quiet absent and more 'nasty and immature'.
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 12:06:44 UTC+9:30, Steven D'Aprano  wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:22:01 -0700, Everything You Need To Know wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Thank you Steven, I thought most of the exercises I have posted were
> 
> > quiet original and still offer interesting results.
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You will find less hostility if you attempt to engage with the community 
> 
> rather than just dump a link on us. Giving a "real" name or alias is a 
> 
> good start: calling you "Everything You Need To Know" is tacky. At the 
> 
> very least, you should sign your posts with the name or alias you wish to 
> 
> be known by.
> 
> 
> 
> Although some people may not like it, self-promotion is not prohibited 
> 
> here, provided it is relevant to Python, that your posts are not 
> 
> misleading or deceitful in any way, and you don't flood the channel with 
> 
> noise.
> 
> 


I will post updates on one Post so as not to create new posts and I am not 
making any money from this, also google owns youtube so I am only helping 
google the owner of this Forum?


> 
> My recommendation is:
> 
> 
> 
> - For preference, you should be a regular poster in the community,
> 
>   answering questions (or even asking questions!) often enough 
> 
>   that people will recognise you.
> 
> 

Thank you, I am considering how best to approach this with the other members. 
Originally we were going to share an account so we could engage from one 
account. Perhaps, as you have suggested, it would merely save some hostility if 
we did not share an account in the name of eyn2k and posted individually. 
Though I thought this might generate more hostility, having multiple members 
posting in one frame of mind I thought would generate a more biased view and 
slow creativity.

> 
> - If you are not a regular, you should take the time to engage with
> 
>   the rest of the community. This is a community, not just a place to
> 
>   advertise, so the polite thing to do is at least to say hello. Who 
> 
>   are you, what is your background in Python, what do you have to
> 
>   offer us, why should we follow your link?
> 
> 

Only now that we have a decent playlist (39 videos), did we think we are ready 
to start engaging, and wish to do so. I have personally set three days a week, 
a number of hours per day, simply to engage with an audience (though can check 
more regularly hopefully)

> 
> - A very common convention in Usenet and email circles is to label
> 
>   announcements like this with "[Announce]" at the start of the 
> 
>   subject line.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Something like this would probably be more acceptable:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: [Announce] Short Python video about the Mandelbrot set
> 
> From: Everything You Need To Know 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, I'm Fred, the author of the "Everything You Need To Know" 
> 
> channel on Youtube. I have a 3 minute video about Python 
> 
> programming aimed at beginners:
> 
> 
> 
> "What do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results"
> 
> 
> 
> If you're interested in Python programming or the Mandelbrot set,
> 
> you might like my videos.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> 


Definately! 
My original post I will admit was a little lazy, I was up until 2 am waiting 
for the video to upload and was really tired, these late nights have to be 
stopped I am moving to the country. My internet in Australia is one of my 
current biggest hurdles, uploading is terrible. 


> 
> 
> 
> 
> You should also be prepared to stick around long enough to answer any 
> 
> questions (or criticism!).
> 
> 
> 
> 

I will try to productive engage with the audience

> 
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven


Thank you Steven,

I value your comments highly.

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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:19:27 UTC+9:30, Rustom Mody  wrote:
> On Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:09:45 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> 
> > Everything You Need To Know writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > > It is not just one person here! To give my name when we are trying to
> 
> > > be a small group would not work.
> 
> 
> 
> > That's not how a community operates. Please post as an individual, with
> 
> > a person's name, to establish your reputation and continuity.
> 
> 
> 
> > Others can post as themselves. We don't need organisations posting as if
> 
> > they were a person with one mind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Let me try to put it another way: We are a community of individuals
> 
> not of corporations, even 'informal' corporations.
> 
> Your entry here as an individual is welcome; as a corporation its
> 
> out of place
> 
> 

I guess I have to agree and was mistaken, though vitriol I found unnecessary 
and unproductive! Just thought it was in best interest if we posted as one 
rather than individuals, if we had each other agreeing with one another it by 
accident or other, it would add extra sway to an individual point of view as we 
are sharing it.

When conversations become unproductive I simply remember this talk which I have 
watched a number of times...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c

and just try to keep programming fun!
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:56:13 UTC+9:30, Ben Finney  wrote:
> Everything You Need To Know  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > I guess I have to agree and was mistaken, though vitriol I found
> 
> > unnecessary and unproductive!
> 
> 
> 
> You've behaved obnoxiously, as has been pointed out. 


Yes I did point out I made a mistake, though it was in the best interest of 
this forum that I made that mistake and as I mentioned.
I am supporting google because they own youtube and I have advertisements 
allowed on for their interest not mine, monetisation is not on.

You are now simply arguing a negative point for no apparent reason other than 
you want to appear correct, I have already admitted my mistake yet you persist 
with negativity and vitriol, it is quiet childish.

please watch this linked video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c 

might lighten you up a little
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:19:43 UTC+9:30, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> > You are now simply arguing a negative point for no apparent reason other 
> > than you want to appear correct, I have already admitted my mistake yet you 
> > persist with negativity and vitriol, it is quiet childish.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> No, it isn't childish. You have admitted to some mistakes, but you
> 
> persist in them. 

I have given up posting as eyn2k, I am not persisting and said I was making 
changes. calm down it takes time.

> Continuing to be negative toward people who continue
> 
> to damage the community isn't childish, it's the correct way to
> 
> maintain a community. You still have not posted a real name,

Yes I have, look at my posts, you will find it, though with this level of 
vitriol can you blame me for being a little worried about posting my real name?

> you still
> 
> post using Google Groups (and without fixing its messes), and frankly,
> 
> the next step if you continue to behave like this is for us to just
> 
> filter you out so we never see your posts again.
> 
> 

I am just finishing this thread, as I said it will take a little time, I am 
trying to collaborate with more than one person.

> 
> What do you mean by "supporting [G]oogle", anyway? Do you mean that
> 
> you think you're doing us all a favour by using Google Groups? Because
> 
> you are not. There are two large schools of thought regarding GG, and
> 
> one extreme minority: lots of people are either ambivalent or strongly
> 
> against it, and a very VERY few people like it, and only because it's
> 
> convenient *for them*. Posts gatewayed in from Google Groups break a
> 
> lot of standards and conventions (there's a difference, btw), and it's
> 
> not without reason that quite a few people simply block every post
> 
> from that domain. If your purpose in posting is to send money Google's
> 
> way, rather than to enhance the Python community, then you are
> 
> definitely posting in the wrong place.
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

What I meant was, that people are saying I'm self serving, when the whole point 
of this exercise was to freely give back knowledge to the community as Python 
is Open Source and youtube is free. I am not earning any money and the purpose 
was to help others so being self serving I do not believe I am.

and as 

> + I have attended University and decided that the video series has more to 
> offer than a University certificate in terms of knowledge. 
> 

"That's not saying much." 

as you can see, you are simply being childish, please make your posts 
productive.

And I do agree, University was a waste of money and time as I said, hence, 
especially with free open source python, the knowledge should be available for 
free. I like exercises with videos, so that is how I returned it to the 
community.

I do not see what your posts are intended to achieve
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:33:19 UTC+9:30, Ian  wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2014 9:51 PM, "Everything You Need To Know"  
> wrote:
> 
> > I will post updates on one Post so as not to create new posts and I am not 
> > making any money from this, also google owns youtube so I am only helping 
> > google the owner of this Forum?
> 
> Google does not own or control this forum. The comp.lang.python group is part 
> of Usenet, which is not owned by anybody. The group is also bridged to the 
> python-list mailing list hosted by the Python Software Foundation. The Google 
> group is just a mirror of the Usenet group.

O! that was a BIG misunderstanding of mine then, and I will seek to rectify 
this again. It is important that we admit our mistakes



And I will no longer be posting to this thread, It is simply going to be people 
calling me obnoxious and me calling them childish in and infinite loop!

CTRL + C someone please
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-20 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:20:29 UTC+9:30, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:19:43 UTC+9:30, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> 
> >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Everything You Need To Know
> 
> >>
> 
> >>  wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >> > You are now simply arguing a negative point for no apparent reason other 
> >> > than you want to appear correct, I have already admitted my mistake yet 
> >> > you persist with negativity and vitriol, it is quiet childish.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> No, it isn't childish. You have admitted to some mistakes, but you
> 
> >>
> 
> >> persist in them.
> 
> >
> 
> > I have given up posting as eyn2k, I am not persisting and said I was making 
> > changes. calm down it takes time.
> 
> 
> 
> Considering that this post also comes from eyn2k, and also doesn't
> 
> have a real name on it, I don't think your statement can be called
> 
> true.
> 
> 
> 
> >> Continuing to be negative toward people who continue
> 
> >>
> 
> >> to damage the community isn't childish, it's the correct way to
> 
> >>
> 
> >> maintain a community. You still have not posted a real name,
> 
> >
> 
> > Yes I have, look at my posts, you will find it, though with this level of 
> > vitriol can you blame me for being a little worried about posting my real 
> > name?
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 1) You're not signing your posts. A post back in your history giving
> 
> just a first name doesn't equate to actually signing your posts with
> 
> your real name. We still don't know you from A-- err, from anyone else
> 
> named Adam.
> 
> 
> 
> 2) Why should the tone of posts here make you worried about posting
> 
> your real name? Especially when part of that tone is specifically
> 
> because you don't. Trust comes from honesty, not from hiding.
> 
> 
> 
> >> + I have attended University and decided that the video series has more to 
> >> offer than a University certificate in terms of knowledge.
> 
> >>
> 
> >
> 
> > "That's not saying much."
> 
> >
> 
> > as you can see, you are simply being childish, please make your posts 
> > productive.
> 
> >
> 
> > And I do agree, University was a waste of money and time as I said, hence, 
> > especially with free open source python, the knowledge should be available 
> > for free. I like exercises with videos, so that is how I returned it to the 
> > community.
> 
> >
> 
> > I do not see what your posts are intended to achieve
> 
> 
> 
> If you have a problem with my extremely mild (in that example)
> 
> criticism of the value of university, you'd best not hang around any
> 
> public discussion forum.
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck with life. You'll need it, if you keep going like this.
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

I have answered all these questions already! stop wasting time
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-21 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:55:44 UTC+9:30, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> On 8/20/2014 11:36 AM, Everything You Need To Know wrote:
> 
> > Neat little exercise, surprisingly cool results!
> 
> > less than 3 minutes!
> 
> >
> 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlDjl5JK0eU&feature=youtu.be
> 
> 
> 
> Dear EYNToK (Adam Nowak?, the name on the video?): I am both a long-term 
> 
> participant in this group and currently one of the behind-the-scenes 
> 
> moderators. Here are the mistakes you made.
> 
> 
> 
> 0. You posted from Google Groups.
> 
> 0a. GG is the source of at least half the spam targeted at python-list, 
> 
> including the stuff that gets caught and discarded by me or another 
> 
> moderator.  Google gives the appearance of being indifferent to being 
> 
> spam source #1. Or maybe they see it as a mark of success somehow.
> 
> 0b. By default, GG does not follow normal and reasonable protocols. 
> 
> Google is obviously indifferent to that. At one time in the past, Google 
> 
> would have been cut off from usenet groups for GG's behavior. Now Google 
> 
> is too big and powerful and hence arrogant.
> 
> 0c. Some posters, when requested, change the defaults as requested and 
> 
> instructed. Some do not, thereby asking to be ignored.
> 
> 
> 
> 1. A pseudonym, but not just a pseudonym, but one that could be 
> 
> interpreted as intentionally obnoxious and 'in our faces', such as used 
> 
> by trolls.  I realize that as a newcomer, you don't know the history, 
> 
> but it affects people who have been around awhile.
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Slightly deceptive subject line, to your detriment. The video is 
> 
> about simulating indefinite precision long division with python. This is 
> 
> a quite legitimate beginner exercise. The 1/998001 example is just an 
> 
> illustration of the value of being able to get more than 18 decimal digits.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. The form of your post! It screams 'I am spam!' Judgment in 3 seconds!
> 
> 
> 
> In sum, if this post had been presented to me by the spam filter for 
> 
> action, and I had acted without viewing the video, especially late at 
> 
> night when tired, I might have deleted it.
> 
> 
> 
> Having watched the video, I now know that would have been a mistake. As 
> 
> Steven said, properly formatted occasional announcements of free 
> 
> python-related resources are on-topic. (If we got multiple such 
> 
> announcements every day, we might change the rules.) I agree with the 
> 
> rest of his excellent post.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Terry Jan Reedy

Well said
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-21 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Thursday, 21 August 2014 01:06:37 UTC+9:30, Everything You Need To Know  
wrote:

These exercises were all linked together to make a 'python' board game, Thought 
it was really neat myself. This is something that would not interest this Forum 
I am to presume?

Thank you

Adam A
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-21 Thread Everything You Need To Know
On Friday, 22 August 2014 06:45:07 UTC+9:30, Ben Finney  wrote:

> When the initial engagement is a continuous repeating of the same
> disrespectful behaviour, and it continues oblivious to requests to
> correct the mistakes, I think the welcome has worn out. We are not
> obligated to endure everything, and respect for all the *other* persons
> here is also needed and entailed in the Code of Conduct.
> 
Like your comment here, you simply have far too much time on your hand! Learn 
from your own words and stop saying the same thing over and over, it is like 
talking to a brick wall. I admitted my mistake, and am looking at this GG thing 
today, the link previous said I could clean my text, this doesn't seem to work. 
I am only using this account while still on this topic so GG is gone.

>"Hostility? Yes"

Get over yourself and grow up! this was my second post, you have not even given 
me a chance or time! watch that link and remember godlike programmers only 
cause problems! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c 
keep programming fun!

and I'm sorry I couldn't help myself here:

"You have three options. 

1) Carry on the way you are and get plonked. 
2) Change and be accepted."

you only let me choose between two! that was funny!

could go on but no point, just ask what your comments are going to achieve 
before the post
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Re: what do you get with 1 divide by 998001, interesting results

2014-08-24 Thread Everything You Need To Know
> eyntk: 
> 
> I have a certain affection for your videos.  I'm not sure they are
> useful to all, but maybe interesting to some.  Kudos to all who try to
> spread their interest and knowledge.  But this is a tough and very
> fair and generous crowd here I believe.  Its probably better to listen
> and participate than to just announce. Or just announce and disappear!
>  This place is more for interaction -- asking and responding, ... and
> debating.  I don't know the rules for announcements.  At any rate, if
> you feel you have something useful to offer, maybe you can figure out
> how to do that without given the impression that you are 'carpet
> bagging' (an american term).  Using a name (even a nickname) makes you
> a person.  Using a company name is kind of off-putting.  If your group
> is more than you, then by all means, have all of you participate.  No
> problem citing the group you are working with.  Email addresses are
> more or less free, right? 
> 
> Joel Goldstick
> http://joelgoldstick.com

This is my lat post to say that eyn2k is gone and you will see us as 
individuals not a groug or especially not on GG. Thank you everyone for your 
time, whether I have personally thought it positive or not we did learn alot 
and appreciate thought!

Though I personally (Adam), am moving to the NSW coast in 4 weeks, and it will 
take four weeks probably before we can return. 

Thank you everyone for your time,

Adam A

*** Please do not respond, I would like to see this thread dissapear and 
reintroduce myself in 4 weeks!
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