[Python-Dev] Re: Retiring this mailing list ?

2023-11-15 Thread Baptiste Carvello 
Le 13/11/2023 à 11:17, Marc-Andre Lemburg a écrit :
> Hello everyone,

Hello,

> for quite a while now, core discussions have moved to Discourse and
> people are obviously enjoying things there: […]

Enjoying is a big word. I for one am more or less coping with it, using
rss for now (read-only and with holes in discussions).

> The Discourse mailing list mode works reasonably well, so is a suitable
> replacement for this mailing list.

It is not, as every user needs to waste time configuring category
filters, which most won't do anyway. Those problems were discussed here
some months ago, to no avail. Discourse is designed for logged-in
reading with the web interface, everything else is second class citizen.

> Posts to this list are now mostly spam, mailer error reports and the
> occasional release postings:

This is sadly the fact.

> Question: Should we retire and archive this mailing list ?
> (I'm asking as one of the maintainers of the ML)

Indeed.

Cheers,
Baptiste
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[Python-Dev] Re: Retiring this mailing list ?

2023-11-15 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg 

On 14.11.2023 19:21, Steve Holden wrote:

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 10:18, Marc-Andre Lemburg  wrote:

[...]

Question: Should we retire and archive this mailing list ?
(I'm asking as one of the maintainers of the ML)

[...]

Hi Marc-Andre,

Maybe just require senders to be members of the python.org 
 domain, and retain the release announcements?
Well, the point is to reduce maintenance and keeping the ML alive would 
not lower this effort, since we get quite a bit of spam to the list.


Kind regards,
Steve

PS: Your mail triggered a visit to 
https://www.python.org/community/lists/ - it seems it could use some 
updates. For example, comp.lang.python-announce is a news URL, which 
in this day and age will baffle most visitors! At the very least 
the page could point to the Discourse list.


Yes, the page could use some editing.

c.l.p.a does have a corresponding ML associated with it. It's probably 
better to point to that instead of the newsgroup.


If you have suggestions for edits, please forward them offline. I can 
then put them up there.


Thanks,

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