[Python-Dev] Python 3.11.0a6 is blocked

2022-03-02 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado 
Hi everyone,

Unfortunately, we have some issues marked as release blockers that are
holding the 3.11.0a6 release.
Some of these issues have been solved but we still have a couple of them.
Hopefully, we will solve these
soon and I will proceed with the release.

Thanks for your understanding.

Regards from sunny Salamanca,
Pablo Galindo Salgado
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[Python-Dev] Re: build cpython on M1 Pro mac

2022-03-02 Thread Yves Duprat 
> How did you find that issue? 
This message printed from VSCode when I ran my script in debug mode

> the Pydev extension used by VS Code doesn't yet work well with
> the changes in 3.11 internals. 
Is there a simple sheet, white paper about these internal changes ?

>You should probably inquire with either the
> Pydev extension (https://github.com/fabioz/Pydev) or the VS Code team about
> what their plans are for fixing this 
Thank for the solutions.
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[Python-Dev] Improvements to the sys.path initialization documentation

2022-03-02 Thread Russel Webber 
 Hi All,

Steve Dower, Eryk Sun and I have been working on improving the
documentation around how sys.path is initialised and therefore how Python
modules are found.

We're moving the details from
https://docs.python.org/3.11/using/windows.html#finding-modules
to a platform-agnostic new section in
https://docs.python.org/3.11/using/cmdline.html

We're aiming to have one place in the documentation where all the ways to
customize sys.path (PYTHONPATH, ._pth, site, etc) are at least mentioned.

We'd appreciate further community feedback on the changes before they are
merged.
https://bugs.python.org/issue31582
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/31082

Thank you,
Russel
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[Python-Dev] Re: build cpython on M1 Pro mac

2022-03-02 Thread Guido van Rossum 
On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 8:34 AM Yves Duprat  wrote:

> > How did you find that issue?
> This message printed from VSCode when I ran my script in debug mode
>

Oh, I see, this is something that pydevd prints when it doesn't understand
the .pyc file. We changed the bytecode significantly in 3.11 (more than we
did in previous versions, though it tends to change in each version) --
that message is at least a decade old.


> > the Pydev extension used by VS Code doesn't yet work well with
> > the changes in 3.11 internals.
> Is there a simple sheet, white paper about these internal changes ?
>

No, you could follow the discussions on
https://github.com/faster-cpython/ideas though and ask specific questions
there if something's not clear.


> >You should probably inquire with either the
> > Pydev extension (https://github.com/fabioz/Pydev) or the VS Code team
> about
> > what their plans are for fixing this
> Thank for the solutions.
>

The specific component to  look for is pydevd --
https://github.com/fabioz/PyDev.Debugger/. I recommend filing an issue
there.

-- 
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