[issue3943] IDLE won't start in 3.0rc1 "Subprocess didn't make connection...."

2008-09-22 Thread Robert Yodlowski

New submission from Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I installed 3.0rc1 on a Win XP 2.4Gzh system with all current updates
with no problems. Cmd line Python and docs work fine. 

Tried to start IDLE but got error message: "IDLE's subprocess didn't
make connection. Either IDLE can't start subprocess or personal firewall
is blocking." 

I turned off my firewall but got the same error message. IDLE works fine
in Python 2.5 and 2.6 on this same machine. Tried change to
idlelib\run.py suggested in bug report #3905 but it had no effect.

...Bob

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title: IDLE won't start in 3.0rc1 "Subprocess didn't make connection"
type: crash
versions: Python 3.0

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[issue3943] IDLE won't start in 3.0rc1 "Subprocess didn't make connection...."

2008-09-24 Thread Robert Yodlowski

Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> added the comment:

Amaury, I did as you suggested - running idle.py directly both from a
command line and by clicking on it and the results were the same. Each
time, I got the same error message window as before. In addition,
several seconds before the error window came up I got the following
traceback in the command window:

C:\Python30>python Lib/idlelib/idle.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
  File "C:\Python30\lib\idlelib\run.py", line 76, in main
sockthread.set_daemon(True)
AttributeError: 'Thread' object has no attribute 'set_daemon'

I hope this helps.
...Bob

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[issue3943] IDLE won't start in 3.0rc1 "Subprocess didn't make connection...."

2008-09-25 Thread Robert Yodlowski

Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> added the comment:

Amaury, my stupid! I must have forgotten to delete the run.pyc file
before trying out the modified run.py as suggested in #3905 . It all
works now and IDLE starts up just fine.

Sorry and, thanks for the help.

...Bob

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[issue4042] IDLE won't start in 2.6 final. A known fix was overlooked?

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Yodlowski

New submission from Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I just installed the 2.6 final release on my fully updated Win XP
system. When I tried to run IDLE I got the same... 

"IDLE's subprocess didn't make connection. Either IDLE can't start
subprocess or personal firewall is blocking." 

...fatal error message I got when I installed the last release candidate
version on Sept 22, 2008. I put in a bug report at that time 

"[issue3943] IDLE won't start in 3.0rc1 "Subprocess didn't make
connection"" 

but it was closed since the fix to LIB/idlelib/run.py (on line 76) in
#3905 message 73496 by Georg Brandl fixes this problem.

I believe that this known fix was overlooked when 2.6 final was released
this week.

...Bob

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title: IDLE won't start in 2.6 final. A known fix was overlooked?
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[issue4042] IDLE won't start in 2.6 final. A known fix was overlooked?

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Yodlowski

Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> added the comment:

Amaury, when I tried to run IDLE from the command line as you suggested
I got:

C:\>C:\python26\Lib\idlelib\idle.py
IDLE Subprocess: socket error: An attempt was made to access a socket in
a way forbidden by its access permissions, retrying
IDLE Subprocess: socket error: An attempt was made to access a socket in
a way forbidden by its access permissions, retrying
IDLE Subprocess: socket error: An attempt was made to access a socket in
a way forbidden by its access permissions, retrying
IDLE Subprocess: Connection to IDLE GUI failed, exiting.

...followed by 2 error windows:

Socket Error:An attempt was made to access a socket in a way forbidden
by its access permissions

and...

IDLE's subprocess didn't make connection. Either IDLE can't start a
subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the connection

...BUT when I try to run IDLE from the "all programs" menu it runs just
fine - which it did NOT when I created today's bug report.

To try to reproduce the original behavior, I first put back the unfixed
version of run.py and IDLE STILL RAN FINE from the program menu 

I was VERY confused at this point and I completely uninstalled Python2.6
and reinstalled it from the same .msi installer I used before.

After I reinstalled 2.6, IDLE again ran fine from the programs menu
WITHOUT making the fix in run.py but NOT from the command line -
producing the same error messages as at the top of this entry.

Right now I am so confused I don't know what to do. I cannot reproduce 
the original problem I reported in this bug report and IDLE runs fine
from the menu but not from the command line.

It know that IDLE would not run from the programs menu until I changed
run.py but once I did that, removing the fix seems to make no
difference. (I've been careful to remove the run.pyc file each time.) I
believe that the behavior I saw today with 2.6 was the same as I saw on
Sept 22 with 3.0 when I submitted #3943 - and with the same confusing
property where the fix is needed to make IDLE run but removing it makes
no difference.

I hope this makes sense to you. It doesn't to me.

...Bob

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[issue4042] IDLE won't start in 2.6 final. A known fix was overlooked?

2008-10-05 Thread Robert Yodlowski

Robert Yodlowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> added the comment:

Problem Solved. It was my firewall.

When I ran IDLE from the command line (the RIGHT way this time), in
addition to the error messages and popup windows that I got before, I
also got a popup window from my firewall asking if I was willing to
grant Python access permission. I granted permission and, when I tried
starting IDLE again, everything worked just fine.

Thank you, Amaury and Martin, for your help and your patience with me.

...Bob

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[issue5140] Some Built-in Functions entries in Library Manual are missing Permalinks

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Yodlowski

New submission from Robert Yodlowski :

In 

http://docs.python.org/3.0/library/functions.html

these function entries seem to be missing Permalinks.

dict()  frozenset()  memoryview()  set()

Hope this helps. 
The Permalinks are a great idea. I hope you add lots more.

...Bob

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