[issue4709] Mingw-w64 and python on windows x64
Henry Gomersall added the comment: I want to second Ralf's comments about both the need for this and it being easy to get. What is required to make this happen (specifically the easy to install build chain - pip install...)? It would be good to enumerate the outstanding issues. The current difficulty of building extensions on Windows should not be underestimated. Microsoft seem to change how their various tools work, with different updated SDKs and removing tools and changing things (even retrospectively) quite regularly. I've wasted quite a bit of time setting up windows machines to build the various flavours (bits and python version), only to find that the same strategy doesn't for some reason beyond my comprehension doesn't work on a different machine. Throw in different windows versions and the problem is pretty insurmountable and unsustainable. To be clear, the current situation surely cannot be worse than a MinGW situation. ------ nosy: +Henry Gomersall ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue4709> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue4709] Mingw-w64 and python on windows x64
Henry Gomersall added the comment: Of course, I mean: *To be clear, the MinGW situation surely cannot be worse than the current situation.* -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue4709> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue4709] Mingw-w64 and python on windows x64
Henry Gomersall added the comment: @carlkl right, but it's not really a seamless experience. I think my question is: What needs to still be done in order that a user with a fresh Python install in Windows (and no compiler installed) can do "pip install an_extension_that_needs_compiling" and it _just works_? Is someone with a better understanding of the issues able to comment on this? -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue4709> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue4709] Mingw-w64 and python on windows x64
Henry Gomersall added the comment: @Steve Great, so what needs to be done so that I as a package developer can do `pip install windows-build-system`, `python setup.py bdist_wheel` and it actually creates a wheel? (which AFAICT is the same problem). My interest is precisely as a package developer. I've spent far far too much time fighting compilers on Windows (many days) and I don't want to do that any more. Every time I come across a new machine, I need to re-establish the current way to do things, which invariably doesn't work properly because I can't find the SDK to download, or the SDK installation doesn't include things any more, or some other reason which I can't work out. On Linux, everything is basically wonderful - I notice no difference between pure python packages and extensions packages. -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue4709> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue4709] Mingw-w64 and python on windows x64
Henry Gomersall added the comment: Thanks Ralf - I'm happy and keen to help so please feel free to poke me if you need assistance with anything. I'll keep an eye out too - is it actively being discussed on any list? -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue4709> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
