[issue32824] Docs: Using Python on a Macintosh has bad info per Apple site
Glenn Travis added the comment: I see that this remains alive. I do have a newer question. Apple continues to say that they are going to drop all their included versions of python and I believe ruby in some future version of macOS. I thought that this would happen in Big Sur, but python versions 2.7.16 still remains with us, why, I don’t know. > On Apr 28, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Irit Katriel wrote: > > > Change by Irit Katriel : > > > -- > versions: +Python 3.10, Python 3.11, Python 3.9 -Python 2.7, Python 3.6, > Python 3.7, Python 3.8 > > ___ > Python tracker > <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue32824] Docs: Using Python on a Macintosh has bad info per Apple site
Glenn Travis added the comment: Here is a copy of the Apple Python call as of April 29, 2021. To my way of thinking it seems that Apple is saying that someday they will indeed eliminate all the included “scripting” software from macOS and they further imply that one should install an. Up-to-date version of one’s particular chosen software. Last login: Thu Apr 29 08:22:47 on console % python WARNING: Python 2.7 is not recommended. This version is included in macOS for compatibility with legacy software. Future versions of macOS will not include Python 2.7. Instead, it is recommended that you transition to using 'python3' from within Terminal. Python 2.7.16 (default, Feb 28 2021, 12:34:25) [GCC Apple LLVM 12.0.5 (clang-1205.0.19.59.6) [+internal-os, ptrauth-isa=deploy on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> exit() % exit Saving session... ...copying shared history... ...saving history...truncating history files... ...completed. [Process completed] > On Apr 28, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Glenn Travis wrote: > > > Glenn Travis added the comment: > > I see that this remains alive. I do have a newer question. Apple continues to > say that they are going to drop all their included versions of python and I > believe ruby in some future version of macOS. I thought that this would > happen in Big Sur, but python versions 2.7.16 still remains with us, why, I > don’t know. > >> On Apr 28, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Irit Katriel wrote: >> >> >> Change by Irit Katriel : >> >> >> -- >> versions: +Python 3.10, Python 3.11, Python 3.9 -Python 2.7, Python 3.6, >> Python 3.7, Python 3.8 >> >> ___ >> Python tracker >> <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> >> ___ > > -- > > ___ > Python tracker > <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue44507] Favor needed ASAP
New submission from Glenn Travis : - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Hi to you! Need a favor from you, do you have an account with Amazon? Glenn Travis -- messages: 396511 nosy: Old Sub Sailor priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Favor needed ASAP ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue44507> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40580] Macintosh Documentation Still Bad
New submission from Glenn Travis : This was reported two years ago, and still is not fixed https://bugs.python.org/issue32824#msg312028 and the documentation is even older. It starts off referencing "Mac OS X 10.8" and Apple Documents that are archived. Then the section referencing using the Finder and Python Launcher does not work with macOS Catalina. Can this finally be corrected? -- messages: 368536 nosy: TotallyLost priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Macintosh Documentation Still Bad type: resource usage versions: Python 3.8 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40580> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40580] Macintosh Documentation Still Bad
Glenn Travis added the comment: Thank you for your reply. I just wanted to renew or recall attention to the older one. It seems to have been dormant for too long. A C program is like a fast dance on a newly waxed dance floor by people carrying razors. -W.R. And now for something completely different. -M.P > On May 9, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Rémi Lapeyre wrote: > > > Rémi Lapeyre added the comment: > > Hi Gleen, this looks like there already exists an issue for this problem, > please use it instead of opening a new one. > > Can you please open a new Pull-Request for solving this issue? > > -- > nosy: +remi.lapeyre > > ___ > Python tracker > <https://bugs.python.org/issue40580> > ___ -- nosy: +Old Sub Sailor ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40580> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40580] Macintosh Documentation Still Bad
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[issue32824] Docs: Using Python on a Macintosh has bad info per Apple site
Glenn Travis added the comment: So, how do we wake this sleeping concern up? -- nosy: +TotallyLost ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue32824] Docs: Using Python on a Macintosh has bad info per Apple site
Glenn Travis added the comment: Thank you Remi > On May 9, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Rémi Lapeyre wrote: > > > Rémi Lapeyre added the comment: > > Hi Gleen, the best way forward is to propose an improvement to the current > documentation. It will get reviewed and merge if appropriate. > > The source for this part is at > https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Doc/using/mac.rst and you can > find the information needed to contribute in the Python Dev Guide: > https://devguide.python.org/. > > -- > nosy: +remi.lapeyre > > ___ > Python tracker > <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> > ___ -- nosy: +Old Sub Sailor ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue32824] Docs: Using Python on a Macintosh has bad info per Apple site
Glenn Travis added the comment: Thank you, but how in the world does one know where to look or find that document at github. I tried to search earlier and got hundreds of listings for python doc. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2020, at 16:36, Glenn Travis wrote: > > Thank you Remi > > >> On May 9, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Rémi Lapeyre wrote: >> >> >> Rémi Lapeyre added the comment: >> >> Hi Gleen, the best way forward is to propose an improvement to the current >> documentation. It will get reviewed and merge if appropriate. >> >> The source for this part is at >> https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Doc/using/mac.rst and you can >> find the information needed to contribute in the Python Dev Guide: >> https://devguide.python.org/. >> >> -- >> nosy: +remi.lapeyre >> >> ___ >> Python tracker >> <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> >> ___ > -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue32824> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Launcher on Catalina
Glenn Travis added the comment: I tried to report this concern under Documentation, but got shot down as duplicate. I have the same results. I tried to make Launcher the default "Open With" application for a script, also tried dragging (and Option dragging) the script to the Launcher, neither worked. I have received several results: 1. Nothing happens 2. Preference window opens 3. Launcher window with a run button opens; the run button does nothing. -- nosy: +TotallyLost ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Python Launcher app on macOS 10.15 Catalina fails to run scripts
Glenn Travis added the comment: I appreciate the update. As an aside, I keep the terminal in the dock. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Python Launcher app on macOS 10.15 Catalina fails to run scripts
Glenn Travis added the comment: Well heck. I just tried it, and got an error. The error does not occur when I run the script directly from the Terminal, nor when I run it via IDLE (double click) Last login: Thu May 14 07:57:11 on ttys000 But what do I know? % cd '/Volumes/BigHDD/Ortho4XP-master/' && '/usr/bin/pythonw' '/Volumes/BigHDD/Ortho4XP-master/Ortho4XP_v130.py' && echo Exit status: $? && exit 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Volumes/BigHDD/Ortho4XP-master/Ortho4XP_v130.py", line 9, in import O4_Imagery_Utils as IMG File "./src/O4_Imagery_Utils.py", line 597 SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file ./src/O4_Imagery_Utils.py on line 597, but no encoding declared; see http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ for details But what do I know? % -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Python Launcher app on macOS 10.15 Catalina fails to run scripts
Glenn Travis added the comment: Thank you Ned. So close now. After your final fix, if I understood you correctly, we will no longer have to open Terminal? And, excuse my vast knowledge gap, but will it ever be possible to not have the terminal run in the future? -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Python Launcher app on macOS 10.15 Catalina fails to run scripts
Glenn Travis added the comment: It is working now. However, I end up with two terminal windows open. One is the one that I opened and the second appears to have been opened by the Launcher?? -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40477] Python Launcher app on macOS 10.15 Catalina fails to run scripts
Glenn Travis added the comment: Is there no way to edit a previous comment? Anyway, I can get it to work as described, but the Launcher Preferences window also opens when I run a script. Did I miss a setting? -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40477> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40649] [Errno 1}
New submission from Glenn Travis :
A fellow on the X-Plane forum reported getting this:
cd desktop/Ortho4XP-130
ianrobertson@Ians-iMac Ortho4XP-130 % python3 Ortho4XP_v130.py
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/bin/python3: can't open file
'Ortho4XP_v130.py': [Errno 1] Operation not permitted
he is able to run python3.8.2 from the terminal and get it to work with the
interpreter for a print('Howdy') but Ortho4Xp not.
is this a python thing, an ortho thing or some root cause from installing
python?
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[issue40649] [Errno 1]
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[issue40649] [Errno 1]
Glenn Travis added the comment:
I think that there is something odd going on with his python install.
He just tried to run a very simple python script that I made for him,
print('Hello there python interperter')
And he got the same error message again. I do not know what more information
you need, I sent the copy and paste terminal error text.
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[issue40649] [Errno 1]
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[issue40649] [Errno 1]
Glenn Travis added the comment: I think that I will ask him to reinstall Python. Which can be a scary process for him. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40649> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40649] [Errno 1]
Glenn Travis added the comment: ok, fine. So what permissions would indicate that "the Python interpreter can read it." The Get Info screenshot that he sent me looks just like mine with regard to permissions. The long list in terminal shows nothing special. I am not having problems running the scripts. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40649> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40649] [Errno 1]
Glenn Travis added the comment: As per your suggestion I have sent an email to python help, just looking for info regarding what you would consider the key permission settings. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40649> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue40649] [Errno 1]
Glenn Travis added the comment: I think that you are referring to Gatekeeper. Something that I have run into with various applications, such as certain utility files in Ortho4XP and even when adding aircraft to X-Plane(some of the developers refuse to become approved Apple developers). -- stage: -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue40649> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue27217] IDLE 3.5.1 not using Tk 8.6
New submission from Glenn Travis: I do not know if this is truly an issue, but it is a concern to me. I installed Tk 8.6 after reading all the Macintosh OS warnings online and in the IDLE window. However, according to the About IDLE box, IDLE is still "using" 8.5; and the warning still appears when I open IDLE. I may have missed it, but I did not see any way update IDLE or some Unix file to correct this in the online documentation. -- files: About IDLE.png messages: 267255 nosy: Old Sub Sailor priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: IDLE 3.5.1 not using Tk 8.6 type: resource usage Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file43196/About IDLE.png ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue27217> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue27217] IDLE 3.5.1 not using Tk 8.6
Glenn Travis added the comment: Ok, Thank you. I wonder why they have OS X version 8.6, which seems to be the default dl link page? > On Jun 4, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Ned Deily wrote: > > > Ned Deily added the comment: > > Assuming you are using the Python 3.5.1 from the python.org OS X binary > installer, you need to install a version of Tcl/Tk 8.5 (such as ActiveTcl > 8.5.18), not 8.6, as is described here: > https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/. > > -- > resolution: -> not a bug > stage: test needed -> resolved > status: open -> closed > type: behavior -> > > ___ > Python tracker > <http://bugs.python.org/issue27217> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue27217> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue27217] IDLE 3.5.1 not using Tk 8.6
Glenn Travis added the comment: Thank you again, Does that mean that I will need to reinstall 8.6 when python 3.6 comes out? > On Jun 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Ned Deily wrote: > > > Ned Deily added the comment: > > Well, 8.6 is the latest version of Tcl/Tk but, because Apple does not yet > ship 8.6 in OS X, we have continued to use 8.5. That will change in Python > 3.6. > > -- > > ___ > Python tracker > <http://bugs.python.org/issue27217> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue27217> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue27217] IDLE 3.5.1 not using Tk 8.6
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