[issue13761] Add flush keyword to print()

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[issue13761] Add flush keyword to print()

2012-01-11 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

I'm against ignoring a flush failure. What happened to "errors should never 
pass silently"? IMO, if we get as far as calling flush and having an exception 
occur, a "more interesting error" hasn't yet occurred.

I really dislike things that fail silently. If the caller asks print to flush, 
and the flush fails, the caller's request has not been met. The caller needs to 
know or incorrect behaviour can ensue.

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[issue11633] Document that print may need explicit flushing

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[issue13761] Add flush keyword to print()

2012-01-11 Thread Cameron Simpson

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Flush can fail of disc full or any number of low level things that prevent the 
OS getting the data into the on-disc file.

Speaking for myself, I certainly want to know if that happens.

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[issue1424152] urllib/urllib2: HTTPS over (Squid) Proxy fails

2008-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue1424152] urllib/urllib2: HTTPS over (Squid) Proxy fails

2008-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

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Chris, I'm trying your patch out now. My quick reading of it looks ok.

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[issue1424152] urllib/urllib2: HTTPS over (Squid) Proxy fails

2008-05-20 Thread Cameron Simpson

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Well I've happily done lots of SOAP transations, admittedly all to the
same webservice, via HTTPS-over-proxy-CONNECT using ChrisL's patch. It
seems to work just fine. Whom do we petition to get this into the
mainline python sources?
- Cameron

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[issue7776] httplib.py: ._tunnel() broken

2010-01-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

New submission from Cameron Simpson :

I'm trying to do HTTPS via a proxy in Python 2.6.4 (which is supposed to 
incorporate this fix from issue 1424152).

While trying to debug this starting from the suds library I've been reading 
httplib.py and urllib2.py to figure out what's going wrong
and found myself around line 687 of httplib.py at the _tunnel()
function.

_tunnel() is broken because _set_hostport() has side effects.

_tunnel() starts with:
  self._set_hostport(self._tunnel_host, self._tunnel_port)
to arrange that the subsequent connection is made to the proxy
host and port, and that is in itself ok.

However, _set_hostport() sets the .host and .port attributes in
the HTTPConnection object.

The next action _tunnel() takes is to send the CONNECT HTTP command,
filling in the endpoint host and port from self.host and self.port.
But these values have been overwritten by the preceeding _set_hostport()
call, and so we ask the proxy to connect to itself.

It seems to me that _tunnel() should be grabbing the original host and port 
before calling _set_hostport(), thus:

  ohost, oport = self.host, self.port
  self._set_hostport(self._tunnel_host, self._tunnel_port)
  self.send("CONNECT %s:%d HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n" % (ohost, oport))

In fact the situation seems even worse: _tunnel() calls send(), send() calls 
connect(), and connect() calls _tunnel() in an infinite regress.
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[issue7776] httplib.py: ._tunnel() broken

2010-01-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

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Amendment: regarding the infinite regress, it looks like there will not be a 
recursion if the caller leaps straight to the .connect() method. However, if 
they do that then the call to _tunnel() from within connect() will happen 
_after_ the socket is made directly to the origin host, not via the proxy. So 
the behaviour seems incorrect then also; it looks very much like _tunnel() must 
always be called before the real socket connection is established, and 
.connect() calls _tunnel() afterwards, not before.

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[issue7776] httplib.py: ._tunnel() broken

2010-01-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

It's looking like I have my idea of .host versus ._tunnel_host swapped. I think 
things are still buggy, but my interpretation of the bug is wrong or misleading.

I gather that after _set_tunnel(), .host is the proxy host and that 
._tunnel_host is the original target host.

I'll follow up here in a bit when I've better characterised the problem.
I think I'm letting urllib2's complicated state stuff confuse me too...

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[issue7776] httplib.py: ._tunnel() broken

2010-01-25 Thread Cameron Simpson

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Well, I've established a few things:
  - I'm mischaracterised this issue
  - httplib's _set_tunnel() is really meant to be called from
urllib2, because using it directly with httplib is totally
counter intuitive
  - a bare urllib2 setup fails with its own bug

To the first item: _tunnel() feels really fragile with that recursion issue, 
though it doesn't recurse called from urllib2.

For the second, here's my test script using httplib:

  H = httplib.HTTPSConnection("localhost", 3128)
  print H
  H._set_tunnel("localhost", 443)
  H.request("GET", "/boguspath")
  os.system("lsof -p %d | grep IPv4" % (os.getpid(),))
  R = H.getresponse()
  print R.status, R.reason

As you can see, one builds the HTTPSConnection object with the proxy's details 
instead of those of the target URL, and then put the target URL details in with 
_set_tunnel(). Am I alone in find this strange?

For the third, my test code is this:

  U = urllib2.Request('https://localhost/boguspath')
  U.set_proxy('localhost:3128', 'https')
  f = urllib2.urlopen(R)
  print f.read()

which fails like this:

  Traceback (most recent call last):
File "thttp.py", line 15, in 
  f = urllib2.urlopen(R)
File "/opt/python-2.6.4/lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 131, in urlopen
  return _opener.open(url, data, timeout)
File "/opt/python-2.6.4/lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 395, in open
  protocol = req.get_type()
  AttributeError: HTTPResponse instance has no attribute 'get_type'

The line numbers are slightly off because I've got some debugging statements in 
there.

Finally, I flat out do not understand urllib2's set_proxy() method:
  
def set_proxy(self, host, type):
if self.type == 'https' and not self._tunnel_host:
self._tunnel_host = self.host
else:
self.type = type
self.__r_host = self.__original
self.host = host

When my code calls set_proxy, self.type is None. Now, I had naively expected 
the first branch to be the only branch. Could someone explain what's happening 
here, and what is meant to happen?

I'm thinking that this bug may turn into a doc fix instead of a behaviour fix, 
but I'm finding it surprisingly hard to know how urllib2 is supposed to be used.

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[issue7776] httplib.py: ._tunnel() broken

2010-01-26 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Well, following your description I've backed out my urllib2 test case to this:

  f = urllib2.urlopen('https://localhost/boguspath')
  os.system("lsof -p %d | grep IPv4" % (os.getpid(),))
  f = urllib2.urlopen(R)
  print f.read()

and it happily runs HTTPS through the proxy if I set the https_proxy envvar. So 
it's all well and good for the "just do what the environment suggests" use case.

However, my older test:

  U = urllib2.Request('https://localhost/boguspath')
  U.set_proxy('localhost:3128', 'https')
  f = urllib2.urlopen(R)
  print f.read()

still blows up with:

  File "/opt/python-2.6.4/lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 381, in open
protocol = req.get_type()
  AttributeError: HTTPResponse instance has no attribute 'get_type'

Now, this is the use case for "I have a custom proxy setup for this activity".

It seems a little dd that "req" above is an HTTPResponse instead of a Request, 
and that my be why there's no .ettype() method available.

I also see nothing obviously wrong with my set_proxy() call above based on the 
docs for the .set_proxy() method, though obviously it fails.

I think what may be needed is a small expansion of the section in the Examples 
are on proxies. There's an description of the use of the *_proxy envvars there 
(and not elsewhere, which seems wrong) and an example of providing a proxy 
Handler. An addition example with a functioning use of a bare .set_proxy() 
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[issue44355] Allow spaces in format strings

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[issue39452] Improve the __main__ module documentation

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[issue24632] Improve documentation about __main__.py

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[issue17359] Mention "__main__.py" explicitly in command line docs

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[issue25625] "chdir" Contex manager for pathlib

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[issue25625] "chdir" Contex manager for pathlib

2021-11-14 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

On 15Nov2021 01:04, Python Bug Reports  wrote:
>Can you share the link? I haven't seen anything recent. Is it under 
>other thread?

It's in the discuss-ideas part of discuss.python.org during a 
discussions about a possible new context manager to atomically prepare a 
filename. Latest comment:

https://discuss.python.org/t/adding-atomicwrite-in-stdlib/11899/15

and I'm with Inada-san here: I think shutil is a better fit for both the 
chdir context manager and the thing under discussion. They're both "high 
level shell-like things" to my mind.

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-11-12 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

I want to start with an apology. I have become a little swamped by work and 
didn't let anyone know I've made little time for this since March.

To my naive eye Nick's snippet looks like it would work for pdb; I became a 
little stalled there trying to understand how pdb managed the main module.

I totally lack the expertise to address pickle; I've never used it and the long 
history of feature updates sugests to me that I cannot get a deep enough 
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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-11-12 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Just a remark about the preamble comment: it reads to me as though PEP499 is a 
misfeature. Possibly change:

  We actually want the double import, so remove the alias if it exists.

to:

  This module is unusual, and actually wants the double import.
  Therefore we remove the __spec__.name alias if it exists
  so that a subsequent import by name will make a distinct instance.

Verbose, but at least I know the intent.

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-11-25 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

On 25Nov2019 17:38, Python Bug Reports  wrote:
>Eric Snow  added the comment:
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>FWIW, I have some feedback on the PEP.  (See msg357448.)  Can we discuss here 
>or should I open a mailing list thread?

Let's discuss it here unless it looks like we need wider input. This is 
related to issue37292 (_xxsubinterpreters: Can't unpickle objects 
defined in __main__), yes?

With PEP499, "python -m foo" should have __name__=='__main__' and 
__spec__.name=='foo'. Were you thinking the __module__ should come from 
__spec__.name (and that the PEP should make that clear)?

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[issue40456] Complete adding silent mode for py_compile

2020-07-16 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Since bad input causes py_compile.py to issue an error like this:

  File 
"/usr/local/Cellar/python@3.8/3.8.3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/lib/python3.8/py_compile.py",
 line 213, in main
if quiet < 2:
NameError: name 'quiet' is not defined

I suggest, to save long review of a larger PR elsewhere, can we please just 
initially apply a patch like this:

[~/src/cpython(git:py_compile-quiet-not-initialised)]fleet2*> diff
+ exec git diff
diff --git a/Lib/py_compile.py b/Lib/py_compile.py
index 21736896af..cea851274d 100644
--- a/Lib/py_compile.py
+++ b/Lib/py_compile.py
@@ -186,6 +186,7 @@ def main(args=None):
 """
 if args is None:
 args = sys.argv[1:]
+quiet = 0
 rv = 0
 if args == ['-']:
 while True:

Then the runtime issue goes away, and adding the feature fully can be addressed 
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[issue41787] adding PEP references to documentation

2020-09-14 Thread Cameron Simpson


New submission from Cameron Simpson :

Add rationale for __length_hint__ and link to PEP 424, per the discussion here:

https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/thread/HXNFMIEZH73MXYEBP4TDIK3KFPYJ4QKR/#CXBEWAYSCAZCU7QABRBTKNVPDM3LELUM

Once the phrasing and directives are agreed, continue to chase other references 
in the docs.

This will produce multiple small PRs, possibly one per PEP as chased.

Phrasing:

I intend to amend the "New in version V." lines to become "New in version V, 
originally specified by PEPNNN." with a link to the PEP on "PEPNNN". I'm 
tempted to make "version V" also a link to its Whats New page; that will make 
for a bit more visual noise but seems pertinent.

The other thing I'd like to consider is a _single sentence_ in the docs 
identifying the main motivating use case for the feature. The __length_hint__ 
docs are a prime example here - the purpose of the feature is not mentioned, 
merely its semantics. While a feature can be used for many purposes, knowing 
why it was introduces brings a lot of cognitive benefit to the reader.

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[issue41787] adding PEP references to documentation

2020-09-15 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Re the possible change to "New in version V." text, my proposal there is the 
make this become:

New in :ref:`version V `.

by modifying the definitions in sphinxdomains/changset.py from:

versionlabels = {
'versionadded':   _('New in version %s'),
'versionchanged': _('Changed in version %s'),
'deprecated': _('Deprecated since version %s'),
}

to:

versionlabels = {
'versionadded':   _('New in :ref:`version %s `'),
'versionchanged': _('Changed in :ref:`version %s `'),
}

and adding a:

:: _whatsnew-3.7:

to Doc/whatsnew/3.7.rst and likewise for the other whatsnew files.

That requires a change to both the docs and sphinx, and is independent of the 
PEP reference additions. I'll make a distinct PR for this, unrelated to the 
other PRs.

In an ideal world we could be more precise by using one of the 
_whatsnew37-feature anchors where they are present, but I don't see how to 
integrate that into the versionadded directives (absent something quite 
intrusive). The above change makes a docs-wide sweep immediately without 
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[issue41787] adding PEP references to documentation

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Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Argh. I bet that additional %s above won't work :-(

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[issue41762] Documentation job fails on CIs: duplicate token description of format_spec

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[issue41787] adding PEP references to documentation

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[issue11633] Document that print may need explicit flushing

2012-01-13 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

Putting the wording into 2.7 might be nice, but I thought it was in bugfix only 
mode.

Regarding UNIX only, I'd avoid it; any file may be buffered in almost any way 
on any platform. Saying an explicit flush call may be necessary for immediate 
output is _not_ UNIX only and would be very misleading. Remembering that ~UNIX 
!= Windows.

Telling users to explicitly call flush to ensure immediate output where that is 
necessary ensures portable coding (or ought to, user pigheadedness discounted:-)

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[issue29949] sizeof set after set_merge() is doubled from 3.5

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-03-19 Thread Cameron Simpson


New submission from Cameron Simpson :

This issue is to track the implementation of PEP 499 which we hope to get into 
the upcoming 3.8 release. I've made it because cpython PRs want a bpo number in 
the subject line.

I'll link in the proposed PR once I've filed off a few grammar issues I've just 
noticed (documentation English grammar).

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-03-20 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

I've withdrawn the PR; I hadn't run the full test suite and there are things to 
fix. - Cameron

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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-03-21 Thread Cameron Simpson


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[issue36375] PEP 499 implementation: "python -m foo" binds the main module as both __main__ and foo in sys.modules

2019-03-21 Thread Cameron Simpson


Cameron Simpson  added the comment:

New PR 12490 attached with a fix for test_pdb. More extensive comments are in 
the leading comment on the PR itself. - Cameron

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[issue9527] Add aware local time support to datetime module

2012-06-05 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue15221] os.path.is*() may return False if path can't be accessed

2012-06-28 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue29328] struct module should support variable-length strings

2017-01-20 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue27607] Importing the main module twice leads to two incompatible instances

2016-07-25 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson added the comment:

On 25Jul2016 02:56, Python Bug Reports  wrote:
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>Emanuel Barry added the comment:
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>I'm fairly sure enums aren't related to this issue, so I'm unassigning Ethan 
>(but feel free to self-assign back if you so desire :). As I said on IRC (I'm 
>Vgr), I think that importing a module twice is the problem here, and that PEP 
>499 is the way to properly solve this and related issues. Thanks for opening 
>this issue!
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>I added Cameron Simpson (PEP 499's author) to the nosy list, hoping he still 
>wants to work on this (and let us know otherwise). I would personally like to 
>see the PEP accepted and implemented for 3.6.

Thank you; I do want to finish off PEP 499 and get it accepted. I have been 
very remiss in pursuing that.

What can I do to assist here?

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

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[issue19702] Update pickle to take advantage of PEP 451

2015-08-06 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue19251] bitwise ops for bytes of equal length

2016-05-14 Thread Cameron Simpson

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[issue19251] bitwise ops for bytes of equal length

2016-05-14 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson added the comment:

I'd like speak my support for bitwise ops on bytes and bytearray (agree, on 
equal lengths only).

I've got 2 arguments here:

- readability: a ^ b, a | b and so forth are clear and direct

- all the various incantation presented must be _understood_, not to mention 
invented anew by anyone wanting to do they same, with the same burden of 
getting it correct; of course one can say the same of any feature not already 
present in a language but that is trite; there are several ways to say this and 
all have varying degrees of speed, obtuseness and verbosity. And they're all 
SLOW.

Regarding some of the counter arguments in the discussion:

- gregory.p.smith in reply to cowlicks: "Security claims?  Nonsense. This has 
nothing to do with security.  It is *fundamentally impossible* to write 
constant time side channel attack resistant algorithms [...]"

Maybe cowlicks should have said "reliable", though to my naive eye a normal 
implementation would be constant time for a given size. I would argue that the 
clarity and directness of just writing "a^b" immediately makes for trivially 
correct code, which itself is a necessary prerequisite for secure code.

- gregory.p.smith again: "Neither of the above "look as nice" as a simple 
operator would. But they are at least both understandable and frankly about the 
same as what you would naively write in C for the task."

This is not an argument against the feature. That one had to perform similar 
activitie in Python as in C merely reflects the present lack of these 
operators, not a preexisting gleaming sufficiency of operator richness.

- Terry J. Reddy: "'XOR of two bytes in one place' strikes me as a thin excuse 
for a new feature that abbreviates a simple, short, one-liner". Christian 
Heimes's code has this single example, but anyone wanting to work on chunks of 
bytes may find themselves here. Just because a lot of things can be 
written/constructed as one liners doesn't mean they should be operators when 
(a) the operator is available (==unused) for this type, (b) the meaning of the 
operator is straight forward and intuitive and (c) any pure Python construction 
is both wordier and much slower.

Anyway, I an for this feature, for the record.

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[issue19251] bitwise ops for bytes of equal length

2016-05-14 Thread Cameron Simpson

Cameron Simpson added the comment:

Amendment: I wrote above: "Just because a lot of things can be 
written/constructed as one liners doesn't mean they should be operators". Of 
course I meant to write "doesn't mean they should _not_ be operators".

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