[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Michele Orrù

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The attached patch fixes this issue and provides some tests.

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[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Michele Orrù

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[issue9116] test_capi.test_no_FatalError_infinite_loop crash on Windows

2010-08-07 Thread Hirokazu Yamamoto

Hirokazu Yamamoto  added the comment:

I said I saw same crash on test_threading in msg110902, but there
is possibility that this is different problem. So I'll remove my
patch and clear dependencies I set.

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[issue9116] test_capi.test_no_FatalError_infinite_loop crash on Windows

2010-08-07 Thread Hirokazu Yamamoto

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[issue9116] test_capi.test_no_FatalError_infinite_loop crash on Windows

2010-08-07 Thread Hirokazu Yamamoto

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[issue9299] os.makedirs(): Add a keyword argument to suppress "File exists" exception

2010-08-07 Thread Ray.Allen

Ray.Allen  added the comment:

Since the patch cannot be applied to py3k cleanly, I update it.

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[issue5871] email.header.Header too lax with embeded newlines

2010-08-07 Thread Ville Lindholm

Ville Lindholm  added the comment:

I tried doing a naive implementation (just checking for \n or \r in the 
argument to Header) but that breaks a lot of unit tests. For example the test 
message msg_16.txt contains a header like this:

Received: from cougar.noc.ucla.edu (cougar.noc.ucla.edu [169.232.10.18])
by babylon.socal-raves.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC2C51B84
for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT)

in other words the header is split up by \n\t. I'm not very familiar with the 
RFCs, is there some smart way to do this? (This is my first attempt to 
contribute to Python btw!) It seems many tests rely on this "bug" in Header.

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[issue9417] Declaring a class creates circular references

2010-08-07 Thread Ray.Allen

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krisvale:

> What about my suggestion of simply providing a convention on how to disable 
> links manually, similar to how minidom.document does it with an "unlink" 
> method?  If these cases are documented, then there shouldn't be any extra 
> bother to do so.
We could provide an builtin unlink() function that calls any __unlink__ special 
method if present.


Maybe through this way such problems can be solved, but it seems it's not 
graceful and pythonic enough. The reason such an "unlink" method appears in 
xml.dom.minidom is because usually large xml document can eat up so much memory 
that we had to do something to make the memory garbaged sooner. But adding this 
as a standard __unlink__ method and requiring explicitly call the unlink() 
method make it similar as using c & c++, which require explicitly memory 
release. 

Besides, as you mentioned, "exposes an implementation detail of C python", it's 
better that the object reference mechanism be fully controlled by python core 
and not be awared by users at all. That is also one of the purposes of 
designing python. 

I prefer terry's idea, which suggests adding a metaclass that produces rc-free 
class to stdlib. These class should behave almost the same as the ones "type" 
metaclass produces. In order not to introduce the slower lookup, we can also 
add a little differences on usage of such classes, for example, internally 
store mro list without the class itself, but construct a full mro list when 
getting the __mro__ attribute, and different "super" implementation, since 
explicitly getting the mro is not so common in practice.

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[issue6751] Default return value in ConfigParser

2010-08-07 Thread Juan Javier

Juan Javier  added the comment:

I would like the method to have the exact same behavior as before if the 
"default" argument is not present, and return the given default value when 
"deafult" argument is present.

If you simply add a "default" keyword, it will always be present and you 
wouldn't know if the user wants the exception thrown or the default value 
returned.

Do you know how to program this using a "default" keyword argument?

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[issue5871] email.header.Header too lax with embeded newlines

2010-08-07 Thread Ray.Allen

Ray.Allen  added the comment:

Besides, not only the header value, but also the header name can only be 
printable ascii characters according to RFC2822:

"A field name MUST be composed of printable US-ASCII characters (i.e., 
characters that have values between 33 and 126, inclusive), except   colon."

But the msg object's __getitem__() seems to accept all ascii characters.

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[issue9516] sysconfig: $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET mismatch: now "10.3" but "10.5" during configure

2010-08-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren

Ronald Oussoren  added the comment:

I agree that this behavior wrong, this should only trigger an error when 
building packages.

How did you build python? I guess something like this:

$ export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.5
$ configure --enable-framework
$ make install

This should result in getting the right deployment target into config/Makefile, 
which means there may be two bugs here:

1) sysconfig.get_config_vars shouldn't trigger and error, only 
   the distutils build command should do that

2) config/Makefile should always contain the value of MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET 
as used during the build, which in turn should
mean the value during the configure step.

BTW. I tend to configure like this:

$ configure --enable-framework MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.5

That way automatic reruns of configure pick up the right environment variables.

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[issue5612] whitespace folding in the email package could be better ; -)

2010-08-07 Thread Chris Withers

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What's email6 and where can I find out more about it?

Chris

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[issue9047] Python 2.7rc2 includes -isysroot twice on each gcc command line

2010-08-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren

Ronald Oussoren  added the comment:

The patch is not sufficient to fix this issue. One problem is that the 
configure script also using CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS, which results in duplicate 
-isysroot flags when the compiler is used by configure.

Fixing this properly is annoyingly hard, I'll have to write down a dataflow 
graph to find a way to set -isysroot and the -arch flags in the minimal amount 
of locations to get the right behavior and to get rid of duplicate flags.

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[issue9425] Rewrite import machinery to work with unicode paths

2010-08-07 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor  added the comment:

The patch is too huge to be commited at once. I will split it again into 
smaller parts.

First related commit: r83778 fixes tests for not encodable filenames.

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[issue9425] Rewrite import machinery to work with unicode paths

2010-08-07 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor  added the comment:

r83779 creates run_command(), it's just a refactorization.

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[issue6822] Error calling .storlines from ftplib

2010-08-07 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'

Giampaolo Rodola'  added the comment:

I agree with Antoine. Maybe it would make sense to check the file object passed 
to storlines() and raise an exception if mode != binary.

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[issue8433] buildbot: test_curses failure, getmouse() returned ERR

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson  added the comment:

I'm a bit surprised that the test *passes* at all, anywhere.  The man page for 
getmouse says:

"""This function will  return OK if a mouse event is actually visible in the 
given window, ERR otherwise."""

So if no mouse event occurs (which is presumably the usual case when 
test_curses is running) then I'd *expect* getmouse to return ERR.

+1 on just disabling these tests for now.

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[issue8433] buildbot: test_curses failure, getmouse() returned ERR

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson  added the comment:

[Barry]
> So clearly something about the curses module is not compatible with the newer 
> versions of ncurses.

Yep. Here's a NEWS entry from the Ubuntu ncurses source:

20100102
+ minor improvement to tic's checking of similar SGR's to allow for the
  most common case of SGR 0.
+ modify getmouse() to act as its documentation implied, returning on
  each call the preceding event until none are left.  When no more
  events remain, it will return ERR.

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[issue9198] Should repr() print unicode characters outside the BMP?

2010-08-07 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue5110] Printing Unicode chars from the interpreter in a non-UTF8 terminal raises an error (Py3)

2010-08-07 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

The report says “This behaviour may sometimes be unwanted. It would be nice to 
have an option”, so I’m requalifying as a RFE and adjusting versions.

The patch changes behavior (search order was builtins, self.namespace and is 
now reversed), is this wanted?

The patch also needs to update the doc.

Thanks!

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[issue9529] Converge re.findall and re.finditer

2010-08-07 Thread MizardX

MizardX  added the comment:

I don't think (1) would break any code. finditer() would still generate 
match-objects.

The only time you would be discard the match-object, is if you try to do a 
destructuring bind in, e.g. a loop. This shouldn't be unexpected for the 
programmer.

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[issue8433] buildbot: test_curses failure, getmouse() returned ERR

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson  added the comment:

Here's a patch that simply reverses the getmouse and ungetmouse calls in the 
test, ensuring that getmouse actually has something to get.  This fixes the 
test_curses failure for me on Ubuntu 10.10, and doesn't seem to introduce new 
failures where test_curses was previously working (on OS X 10.6.4, for example).

Barry, do you want me to apply this to 2.6.6, to give us another green buildbot 
or two?  Or is it not worth it?

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[issue8433] buildbot: test_curses failure, getmouse() returned ERR

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson  added the comment:

Patch applied to py3k in r83780.  I'll watch the py3k buildbots to see how they 
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[issue9417] Declaring a class creates circular references

2010-08-07 Thread Daniel Urban

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[issue9312] Fix usage of :option: markup in stdlib ReST docs

2010-08-07 Thread Eli Bendersky

Eli Bendersky  added the comment:

Following the discussions on pydev and some private correspondence with Georg 
Brandl, I'm attaching an updated patch.

Things changed:

1. Changes of :option: to ``...`` similar to previous patch

2. :program:`prog` :option:`opt` was changed to ``prog opt``

3. Some modules have a large choice of command line options. Per Georg's 
suggestions, command line options in these modules can be described with the 
"cmdoption" directive and later referred to with :option: which inserts a 
back-link, just like to the Python interpreter options now. I've applied these 
changes to unittest.rst and timeit.rst. trace.rst also has this problem, but 
the trace documentation is currently undergoing a major change by issue 9264 
(2.6 fix was already committed) and I prefer changing it wholly at once.

In addition, the documentation of optparse underwent a more serious change 
because it kept referring to options with ``"-o"`` (note the double quotes 
after the ``), I changed it to ``-o`` for consistency.



P.S. The patch was generated from a fresh pull of py3k from the Hg mirror. The 
complete list of affected files:

M Doc/library/codecs.rst
M Doc/library/compileall.rst
M Doc/library/doctest.rst
M Doc/library/exceptions.rst
M Doc/library/getopt.rst
M Doc/library/idle.rst
M Doc/library/optparse.rst
M Doc/library/pydoc.rst
M Doc/library/sys.rst
M Doc/library/test.rst
M Doc/library/timeit.rst
M Doc/library/unittest.rst
M Doc/library/webbrowser.rst

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[issue9312] Fix usage of :option: markup in stdlib ReST docs

2010-08-07 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

Nice changes! Especially the program/cmdoption directives combo.

Your patch introduces trailing whitespace (good editor settings can show those, 
as well as hg diff with the color extension) and has one unnecessary change:

-line, ``options.filename`` will be ``"outfile"`` and ``options.verbose`` will 
be
+line, ``options.filename`` will be ``outfile`` and ``options.verbose`` will be

In this case, the things in  are not command line snippets but Python code, 
so the quotes are regular string notation.

Attached patch fixes that.

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[issue5871] email.header.Header too lax with embeded newlines

2010-08-07 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray  added the comment:

Yeah, after I posted that suggestion it occurred to me that the newline stuff 
*is* embedded in the way email5 works, but I hadn't gotten back here to post a 
followup yet.  I don't like it, but it is what it is.  (I believe the theory is 
to preserve the formatting of the text that was parsed from an input 
message...in email6 I'm planning on handling that a different and safer way, 
albeit at the cost of using extra memory.)

So to fix the issue in email5 I we'd have to make sure there is whitespace 
following the newlines when *emitting* headers...which could then break 
roundtripping badly formed emails, which is not likely to be acceptable, and 
certainly would not be backportable. :(

In other words, it's not obvious to me that we *can* fix this in email5. :( :(

Thanks for working on this, and if you come up with any clever ideas let me 
know, and I'll do the same :)

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[issue9312] Fix usage of :option: markup in stdlib ReST docs

2010-08-07 Thread Eli Bendersky

Eli Bendersky  added the comment:

Eric, thanks for the catch and the fix. If there's anything else, just let me 
know.

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[issue5871] email.header.Header too lax with embeded newlines

2010-08-07 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray  added the comment:

Re __getitem__: yes, the email package allows you to work with messages that 
are *not* RFC conformant (which you do encounter when processing actual email 
:), and this is an important feature.  The plan in email6 is to detect and 
report additional RFC violations, with an optional "strict" mode to raise 
errors if any violations are encountered.

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[issue9312] Fix usage of :option: markup in stdlib ReST docs

2010-08-07 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

Nothing else to say, +1 on commit.

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[issue5612] whitespace folding in the email package could be better ; -)

2010-08-07 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray  added the comment:

It's a plan to redesign the email API so that it can easily manipulate both 
bytes and strings as needed, with a backward compatibility layer that allows 
the current API to be used if all you need to do is process strings.  If we're 
lucky there may be a PyPI package that backports it to 2.x, although there the 
backward compatibility API will probably only work if you don't ever want to 
decode the message to unicode :(.

It is a project of the email-sig, but currently I'm the only one actively 
working on the code.

There are design documents in the wiki:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/Email%20SIG

the current code (which of course is in the middle of various transformations 
and the docs aren't completely up to date) is on launchpad in deference to 
Barry:

https://launchpad.net/python-email6

I welcome your comments!

(*) email4 is the package in most of the actively used versions of Python2.x, 
email5 is the version in 3.0/3.1/3.2, email6 will hopefully be the version in 
3.3.

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[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Michele Orrù

Michele Orrù  added the comment:

Yes, it is. I think the user would expect that kind of behaviour.

The attached patch updates the Doc.

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[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Michele Orrù

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[issue9417] Declaring a class creates circular references

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I am opposed to a new 'unlink' builtin and '__unlink__' special method. There 
are more than enough builtin functions now, and this need is specific to those 
who both make lots temporary classes that they need garbage collected AND need 
to run with gc turned off. The intersection of these two small groups is 
probably very small. Since turning gc off is only an option with CPython (and 
PyPy?), this need is also implementation specific.

Before anything were added to the stdlib (and the need *might* be considered 
too rare for that) it should be tested in real use by more than one person. It 
appears that there are at least a couple of options for implementing a no_cr 
class. They could be attached to this issue, posted on the cookbook, or 
uploaded to PyPI.

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[issue5256] rlcompleter adds builtins when custom dict is used

2010-08-07 Thread Michele Orrù

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Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file18427/rlcompleter_docs.patch

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[issue5027] xml namespace not understood by xml.sax.saxutils.XMLGenerator

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

There are no specific maintainers for xml.sax.utils. As per RDM's suggestion, 
Fred or Martin, do either of you have any comments on this or who it might be 
referred to?

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[issue2628] ftplib Persistent data connection

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue2628] ftplib Persistent data connection

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue2628] ftplib Persistent data connection

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue1306248] Add 64-bit Solaris 9 build instructions to README

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

In the absence of a patch submission, I am closing this.
Perhaps it is obsolete anyway.

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[issue6804] IDLE: Detect Python files even if name doesn't end in .py

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I am a little puzzled by this issue.
1. Why would a Windows user use any extention other than .py or .pyw, which 
IDLE opens fine. How many people do something senseless like hand-registering, 
say 'xiq', as a python file?
2. .pyc files are binary files and NOT source code files and cannot be opened 
by IDLE as it will attempt to decode them into text. So why the check for that?

Also, I believe there is another issue to add a 'Treat this as Python code' 
entry to one of the menus. This would cover the case of files without 
extensions and files that are not python files but happen (on a case-by-case 
basis) to have python code embedded within.

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[issue7450] document that os.chmod accepts an octal digit mode

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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(3.1.2)
15.1.5. Files and Directories
os.chmode entry: I recommend changing the first sentence
"Change the mode of path to the numeric mode."
to
"Change the mode of path to the integer mode (such as 0x755)."

For 2.7, delete the 'x'.

This should make it clear to Unix users that they can use the usual octal 
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[issue8228] pprint, single/multiple items per line parameter

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[issue7798] document pydoc methods

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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Pydoc has a number of useful things that might be moved elsewhere and imported. 
An example is the no-yes filter _split_list. Documenting them in place would 
create something of a jumble. So I think this issue should be either closed 
(and possibly another opened) or renamed "Extract pydoc.page into a separate 
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[issue6926] socket module missing IPPROTO_IPV6, IPPROTO_IPV4

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[issue1944] Documentation for PyUnicode_AsString (et al.) missing.

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue8713] multiprocessing needs option to eschew fork() under Linux

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[issue1038909] pydoc method documentation lookup enhancement

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[issue1371826] distutils is silent about multiple -I/-L/-R

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[issue4086] support %z format in time.strftime and _strptime?

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue9127] subprocess.Popen.communicate() and SIGCHLD handlers

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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Can you suggest a specific doc patch with new text and location?

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[issue6824] help for a module should list supported platforms

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[issue7352] python2.6-config --ldflags out of /usr and missing -L

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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I am not sure that such a change to python-config.in could go into a bugfix 
release as it might need more testing on a variety of systems than bugfix 
releases tend to get. Does (in your opinion) 3.1/2 need the same change?

Martin, who should look at Linux build/install issues?

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[issue5784] raw deflate format and zlib module

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[issue6678] inspect.currentframe documentation omits optional depth parameter

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[issue5962] Ambiguity about the semantics of sys.exit() and os._exit() in multithreaded program

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[issue1554133] PyOS_InputHook() and related API funcs. not documented

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[issue1626300] 'Installing Python Modules' does not work for Windows

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[issue1643712] Emphasize buffering issues when sys.stdin is used

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[issue1865] Bytes alias for 2.6

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[issue4965] Can doc index of html version be separately scrollable?

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[issue7867] Proposed FAQ entry on pass-by-? semantics and the meaning of 'variable' in python

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[issue8269] Missing return values for PyUnicode C/API functions

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue9529] Converge re.findall and re.finditer

2010-08-07 Thread Matthew Barnett

Matthew Barnett  added the comment:

Ah, I see what you mean. I still think you're wrong, though! :-)

The 'for' loop is doing is basically this:

it = re.finditer(r'(\w+):(\w+)', text)
try:
while True:
match_object = next(it)
# body of loop
except StopIteration:
pass

re.finditer() it returns a generator which yields match objects.

What I think you're actually requesting (but not realising) is for the 'for' 
loop not just to iterate over the generator, but also over what the generator 
yields.

If you want re.finditer() to yield the groups then it has to return a generator 
which yields those groups, not match objects.

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[issue8387] use universal newline mode in csv module examples

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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In the current 2.7 docs, files are opened with 'rb' or 'wb'.
In msg106210 of #1072404, RDM says "The doc has been fixed;".
I am not sure if this refers a change in the open or just removal of reference 
to non-working delimiter option.
David?
Any opinion on this request?

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[issue7352] python2.6-config --ldflags out of /usr and missing -L

2010-08-07 Thread Joel Brobecker

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I agree that more testing in head would be useful before possibly considering 
inclusion in one of the bug-fix releases. Given that this only affects binaries 
installed at a different location than the configure prefix, this seems hardly 
critical (and easy to fix locally).

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[issue8722] Documentation for __getattr__

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

The problem with changing 2.7 docs is that object access is different for old- 
and new-style properties. Does your example work if you remove 'object'? (IE, 
can old style classes have properties?)

For new-style classes, the example behavior is clear if you 1. know that object 
has a .__getattribute__ method inherited by everything when not overriden and 
2. read the doc for that which says that __getattr__ is called whenever a 
__getattribute__ call raises AttributeError, which it does here by passing 
through the .get error.

For 3.x, I think in 3.3.2. Customizing attribute access,
object.__getattr__(self, name) 
"Called when an attribute lookup has not found the attribute in the usual 
places (i.e. it is not an instance attribute nor is it found in the class tree 
for self). name is the attribute name. "

might be replaced by

"Called when self.__getattribute__(name) raise AttributeError because name is 
not an instance attribute, not found in the class tree for self, or is a 
property attribute whose .get() method raises AttributeError."

But this does not work for 2.7.

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[issue8722] Documentation for __getattr__

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

/raise/raises/

I am pretty sure that when __getattribute__ is bypassed, so is __getattr__.

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[issue9538] Replace confusing pseudoname 'object' in special methods section.

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

New submission from Terry J. Reedy :

In 3.3. Special method names, 'object' is used as a pseudo class name to prefix 
all the special method entries. This conflicts with the usual two Python 
meanings.

1. 'object' is the name of a specific class. So the entry for 
object.__getattribute__(self, name) says to avoid circularity by calling
object.__getattribute__(self, name), which looks circular and requires a bit a 
mental work by the reader to properly understand. Ditto for
object.__setattr__(self, name, value) calling
object.__setattr__(self, name, value)

2. Non-specifically, 'object' is usually understood to mean any Python object, 
not just a class. But the signatures as written require that 'object' 
specifically be a class and 'object' does not convey that.

So for both reasons, I propose that the pseudoname 'object' be replaces with 
'class' or 'someclass'

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[issue9538] Replace confusing pseudoname 'object' in special methods section.

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I also think that in "In order to avoid infinite recursion in this method, its 
implementation should always call the base class method with the same name to 
access any attributes it needs, for example, object.__getattribute__(self, 
name).", 'the base class' should be 'a base class' or 'a superclass' since 
there might be more than one base/super class. Ditto for __setattr__.

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[issue9538] Replace confusing pseudoname 'object' in special methods section.

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I filed this because I just reread the __getattr(ibute)__ entries to respond to 
#8722 and found myself again stumbling over the 'object' confusion.

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[issue8145] Documentation about sqlite3 isolation_level

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue724459] Add documentation about line endings in email messages.

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Sorry this slipped thru the cracks so long. RDM is revamping email, most likely 
for 3.3, and will consider open issues in doing so.

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[issue1098749] Single-line option to pygettext.py

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue2920] Patch to print symbolic value or errno in EnvironmentError.__str__()

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue8340] bytearray undocumented on trunk

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue9105] pickle security note should be more prominent

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue9105] pickle security note should be more prominent

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

FWIW, I agree too. The current location is a bit odd.

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[issue8834] Define order of Misc/ACKS entries

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Only a few days left for 2.6 ;-)

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[issue7790] struct_time documentation entry should point to the table defining the tuple

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue1945] Document back ported C functions

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue1062] nice to have a way to tell if a socket is bound

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[issue1605] Semi autogenerated _types module

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue1203650] Allow larger programs to be frozen under Win32

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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I added this as a dependency to #7962. I believe there was some thought on the 
pydev list of removing freeze (because not-working or obsolete).

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[issue7962] Demo and Tools need to be tested and pruned

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue2786] Names in traceback should have class names, if they're methods

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue433030] SRE: Atomic Grouping (?>...) is not supported

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Does the re2 work (#2636) make this outdated?

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[issue1173134] improvement of the script adaptation for the win32 platform

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue416670] MatchObjects not deepcopy()able

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

The OP has no interest in this, there is no patch, and re2 is coming. Should we 
close this?

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[issue433024] SRE: (?flag) isn't properly scoped

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue5501] Update multiprocessing docs re: freeze_support

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I think that question is covered by "If the module is being run normally by the 
Python interpreter then freeze_support() has no effect."

Jesse, do you think anything more is needed, like '(on any platform)' after 
'interpreter', or should be close this?

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[issue5501] Update multiprocessing docs re: freeze_support

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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[issue1546442] subprocess.Popen can't read file object as stdin after seek

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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In the absence of a doc patch, I am following Daniel's suggestion to close this.

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[issue1095821] The doc for DictProxy is missing

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

In 3.x, DictProxy and other internal types are gone from types.

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resolution:  -> rejected
status: open -> closed

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[issue2057] difflib: add patch capability

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I would like to see this more easily available, perhaps in /Scripts.
Are unified diffs the type usually posted to the tracker?
I am not sure what you meant by ' diff/patch lib is not.'

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stage:  -> unit test needed
versions: +Python 3.2 -Python 2.6

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[issue1353344] python.desktop

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

I see lots of interest and several translations. Was there an intention to add 
this to the distribution (or has it been)? Or is it out-of-date?

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versions: +Python 3.2 -Python 2.6, Python 3.0

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[issue7798] document pydoc methods

2010-08-07 Thread Ron Adam

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I think a good place for the pager is in the cmd module.  I have a separated 
version of it I could upload if there is consensus on this.

I've extracted the text server, but it's in a minimum 'works for pydoc' stage. 
(See issue 2001)

Both of these need some more eye to look at the api's before they get 
documented.

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[issue1294232] Error in metaclass search order

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

Is the 3.1/2 doc still lacking in this area?

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[issue1722] Undocumented urllib functions

2010-08-07 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

When internal functions lack '_', perhaps the doc should say "xys,uie, and ooe 
are intentionally undocumented internal functions." Otherwise, how is one 
supposed to know?

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