Re: [PyMOL] Discrepancy between select within and distance?

2013-05-20 Thread Folmer Fredslund
Hi,

I thinks this is the expected behaviour


2013/5/19 asdf asdf 

> Hello,
>
> I'm measuring the distance between certain residues in an alignment and
> I've noticed a discrepancy in the selections returned by the "select within
> command" and the actual distances measured to the atoms returned by the
> selection.  I was wondering if maybe somebody knew where I was going wrong.
>
> When I run the following commands
>
> > fetch 1MM2
> > fetch 2kgi
> > align 2kgi, 1MM2
> > select asdf, 1MM2CA w. 5 of 2kgi///22/CA
>

You do not specify what state (http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/State) you
want to look at, so the selection takes in any atoms that are within the
given distance. In your example the 7th model in 1MM2 is within 5 Å from
the 7th state of 2kgi, so that gets added to the selection.


> > iterate asdf, print(resi + " " + resn + " " + name + " " +
> str(cmd.distance("tmp", "2kgi///22/CA", "1MM2///" + resi + "/CA")))
>
>
If I understand correctly, here you just get the distances between the
selected atoms, which then gives the output you get.



> I get this output:
>
> 24 CYS CA 5.15101623535
> 25 ASP CA 3.34501266479
> 26 THR CA 6.03605747223
> 47 GLU CA 3.80576062202
> 48 TRP CA 3.85521435738
> 49 LEU CA 4.28281402588
>
> I'm just a little confused about why atoms that are further than 5
> angstroms away from the atom I specified in the select command are
> returned.  Is there some difference in the way "select within" and
> "cmd.distance", or have a confused some of the commands?
>
> Any suggestions are appreciated
>
>



It should work as expected if you split the model into states with
split_states (http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Split_States) and then make
the selection on just one of those models.

Best regards,
Folmer Fredslund


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Re: [PyMOL] Discrepancy between select within and distance?

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi,

Folmer is correct on both accounts.

First, "select" was selecting across various states into one multistate
selection. Then, the distance command was operating on the first state,
which is its default behavior. So, replace

select asdf, 1MM2CA w. 5 of 2kgi///22/CA

with

select asdf, 1MM2CA w. 5 of 2kgi///22/CA, state=1

or whichever state you want and try again. (Or use Folmer's suggestion of
splitting out the states.)

Second, please don't hind behind a pseudonym. We don't bite.

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On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM, asdf asdf  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm measuring the distance between certain residues in an alignment and
> I've noticed a discrepancy in the selections returned by the "select within
> command" and the actual distances measured to the atoms returned by the
> selection.  I was wondering if maybe somebody knew where I was going wrong.
>
> When I run the following commands
>
> > fetch 1MM2
> > fetch 2kgi
> > align 2kgi, 1MM2
> > select asdf, 1MM2CA w. 5 of 2kgi///22/CA
> > iterate asdf, print(resi + " " + resn + " " + name + " " +
> str(cmd.distance("tmp", "2kgi///22/CA", "1MM2///" + resi + "/CA")))
>
> I get this output:
>
> 24 CYS CA 5.15101623535
> 25 ASP CA 3.34501266479
> 26 THR CA 6.03605747223
> 47 GLU CA 3.80576062202
> 48 TRP CA 3.85521435738
> 49 LEU CA 4.28281402588
>
> I'm just a little confused about why atoms that are further than 5
> angstroms away from the atom I specified in the select command are
> returned.  Is there some difference in the way "select within" and
> "cmd.distance", or have a confused some of the commands?
>
> Any suggestions are appreciated
>
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Re: [PyMOL] internal surface

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi Yarrow,

See demo #2 on the PyMOLWiki gallery page (
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Gallery).

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> I previously made a figure where the protien is cut in half and you can
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>
> My problem is that I want to show a slab of the internal surface not just
> the interior part of the external surface. Can anyone help me with this?
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[PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread John Quinn
I have a question I've never been able to figure out. If I have a pdb file with 
a ligand bound in a protein I can show the protein as a mesh or surface but I 
can't ever show the surface of the ligand. Any advice? What am I missing?

Thank you very much.

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Re: [PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread Troels Emtekær Linnet
Try to extract the ligand from the protein, so you get two separate objects.

Best

Troels Emtekær Linnet


2013/5/20 John Quinn 

> I have a question I've never been able to figure out. If I have a pdb file
> with a ligand bound in a protein I can show the protein as a mesh or
> surface but I can't ever show the surface of the ligand. Any advice? What
> am I missing?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Yours &c.
>
> John
>
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Re: [PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread John Quinn
Hi Troels,

I've tried that in the past (and just tried again to make sure) but it doesn't 
work for me.

By the way, I'm running the latest open source version of PyMol installed via 
fink on a Mac

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On May 20, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet  wrote:

> Troels

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Re: [PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi,

Extracting/copying the ligand is one way (
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface#Creating_a_Closed_Surface). You
can also set surface mode (http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface_mode) or
flag a selection (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Flag).

Cheers,

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet wrote:

> Try to extract the ligand from the protein, so you get two separate
> objects.
>
> Best
>
> Troels Emtekær Linnet
>
>
> 2013/5/20 John Quinn 
>
>> I have a question I've never been able to figure out. If I have a pdb
>> file with a ligand bound in a protein I can show the protein as a mesh or
>> surface but I can't ever show the surface of the ligand. Any advice? What
>> am I missing?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Yours &c.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Vertrees
John,

fetch 1rx1, async=0

set surface_mode, 3

as surface, org

Cheers,

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, John Quinn  wrote:

> Hi Troels,
>
> I've tried that in the past (and just tried again to make sure) but it
> doesn't work for me.
>
> By the way, I'm running the latest open source version of PyMol installed
> via fink on a Mac
>
> Yours &c.
>
> John Quinn
> 133 Jay St.
> Albany, NY 12210
> (518) 312-7033
> jqu...@uchicago.edu
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet 
> wrote:
>
> Troels
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Re: [PyMOL] how to show ligand surface

2013-05-20 Thread John Quinn
Thank you. That was perfect. I see that Mesh_mode works the same way.

Yours &c.

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On May 20, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Jason Vertrees  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Extracting/copying the ligand is one way 
> (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface#Creating_a_Closed_Surface). You 
> can also set surface mode (http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface_mode) or 
> flag a selection (http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Flag).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Jason
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Troels Emtekær Linnet  
> wrote:
> Try to extract the ligand from the protein, so you get two separate objects.
> 
> Best
> 
> Troels Emtekær Linnet
> 
> 
> 2013/5/20 John Quinn 
> I have a question I've never been able to figure out. If I have a pdb file 
> with a ligand bound in a protein I can show the protein as a mesh or surface 
> but I can't ever show the surface of the ligand. Any advice? What am I 
> missing?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Yours &c.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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[PyMOL] Label by selection identifier

2013-05-20 Thread Jordan Willis
Hello,

This should be straightforward,

Is it possible to label selections by their name?

If I have a selection named "foo" and I say label foo, "foo", it of course 
labels all the atoms. Is it possible to get one label for the entire selection 
without using pseudoatoms?

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