Re: [PyMOL] Select crystal waters inside protein

2012-10-04 Thread Martin Hediger
Dear PyMOL Users
I'm trying to remove water molecules from a crystal structure which are 
on the crystal surface while preserving the ones within the crystal 
interior.

What I do is:

select waters, resn HOH
# cmd.select("waters", "(waters extend 1)", enable=1)
get_area waters, load_b=1
remove waters and b>20

This only works partially because of some waters, only the oxygen atom 
is removed, while of others only one of the hydrogens is removed (some 
waters are completely removed which is good). It does not make a 
difference if I include the commented command above.
Also, what does "load_b=1" mean?

Further feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Martin





On 26.04.12 14:46, Thomas Holder wrote:
> Hi Martin & James,
>
> is it just a coincident that you both ask almost the same question?
>
> You could remove all water atoms with few protein contacts or with a 
> small surface area. For example:
>
> remove solvent beyond 3.5 of polymer
> set dot_solvent
> get_area solvent, load_b=1
> remove solvent and b > 20
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
>   Thomas
>
> On 04/26/2012 10:55 AM, James Starlight wrote:
>> Another question- I have my protein.pdb with some inserted crystall
>> waters within protein interiour as well as water surrounded of my
>> protein. I want to remove only sorrounding water but prevent internal
>> water ( wich could be functional relevant ).
>>
>> How I could to select such surrounded water ( e.g via some cutoff
>> radius relative my protein etc) wich I'd like to remove further ?
>
> On 04/25/2012 05:34 PM, Martin Hediger wrote:
>> In a crystal structure, there are usually a number of relevant crystal
>> waters, as well as water molecules on the surface. In our approach, we
>> model the protein structure within a dielectric continuum, so surface
>> water molecules are not required (to save computer time). However,
>> waters in the interior should remain in our model. How could we discard
>> the surface waters while keeping the internal waters?
>


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Re: [PyMOL] Select crystal waters inside protein

2012-10-04 Thread Folmer Fredslund
Hi Martin,


2012/10/4 Martin Hediger 

> Dear PyMOL Users
> I'm trying to remove water molecules from a crystal structure which are
> on the crystal surface while preserving the ones within the crystal
> interior.
>
> What I do is:
>
> select waters, resn HOH
> # cmd.select("waters", "(waters extend 1)", enable=1)
> get_area waters, load_b=1
> remove waters and b>20
>
> This only works partially because of some waters, only the oxygen atom
> is removed, while of others only one of the hydrogens is removed (some
> waters are completely removed which is good). It does not make a
> difference if I include the commented command above.
>

You might want to read up on the selection algebra of PyMOL (
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Selection_Algebra) which is quite
powerfull.

You can use the "by residue" selection to select the entire residue that
fits you description, so in your case

remove byres waters and b>20

Will remove every residues within your selection waters, where at least one
atom has a b factor of more than 20. (and of course now you have altered
the b factor according to the calculated surface area)



Also, what does "load_b=1" mean?
>
>
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Get_Area
It is explained in the last example (3)
"load_b=1" will put the value of the surface area into the b factor column.


Hope that helps!

Best regards,
Folmer




> Further feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26.04.12 14:46, Thomas Holder wrote:
> > Hi Martin & James,
> >
> > is it just a coincident that you both ask almost the same question?
> >
> > You could remove all water atoms with few protein contacts or with a
> > small surface area. For example:
> >
> > remove solvent beyond 3.5 of polymer
> > set dot_solvent
> > get_area solvent, load_b=1
> > remove solvent and b > 20
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Thomas
> >
> > On 04/26/2012 10:55 AM, James Starlight wrote:
> >> Another question- I have my protein.pdb with some inserted crystall
> >> waters within protein interiour as well as water surrounded of my
> >> protein. I want to remove only sorrounding water but prevent internal
> >> water ( wich could be functional relevant ).
> >>
> >> How I could to select such surrounded water ( e.g via some cutoff
> >> radius relative my protein etc) wich I'd like to remove further ?
> >
> > On 04/25/2012 05:34 PM, Martin Hediger wrote:
> >> In a crystal structure, there are usually a number of relevant crystal
> >> waters, as well as water molecules on the surface. In our approach, we
> >> model the protein structure within a dielectric continuum, so surface
> >> water molecules are not required (to save computer time). However,
> >> waters in the interior should remain in our model. How could we discard
> >> the surface waters while keeping the internal waters?
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [PyMOL] nutate

2012-10-04 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi Sean,

Do you need the actual code or just the functionality? If the latter just do:

mset 1x30

movie.nutate(1,30)

If you need the actual code see pymol/modules/pymol/movie.py and look
for "nutate".

Cheers,

-- Jason

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Sean Law  wrote:
> Hi PyMOLers,
>
> Can somebody tell me the python script equivalent of the PyMOL nutate
> function (yes, NUTATE and not MUTATE)?  Say, for a "wiggle-rock" motion of
> 15 degrees over 4 seconds (or 120 frames).  I played around with this using
> some combination of turning the camera in the X or Y directions but only
> ended up rotating the camera around in a diamond shape.  I can't seem to
> figure out how to make the camera swivel around in a circular shape rather
> than a diamond shape.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Sean
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Re: [PyMOL] bond connection file

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi Vishwas,

you can use PDB format with CONECT records. You need to set 
connect_mode=1 before loading the PDB file into PyMOL.

http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Connect_mode

http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/format33/sect10.html#CONECT

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
   Thomas

Vishwas Vasisht wrote, On 10/04/12 16:52:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to feed in a coordinates of atoms along with bond connection 
> information. Since 
> the bonding is based on some calculation I do, I need to include this 
> information by hand. 
> 
> I tried to output the trajectory from my analysis in .mol format 
> (following some example 
> .mol file), but particles are overlapping on each other. 
> 
> Can somebody suggest me a better way to feed in coordinates and bonding 
> information
> to pymol.
> 
> Regards
> Vishwas

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Re: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to view a "test" pdb.

2012-10-04 Thread Mike Marchywka



fwiw, I never figured out why the out-of-the-box build hung  using the python 
approach
but I went through the "./cogifure, make make install route"
and did get the test molecules to display. However, I ran into lots of problems 
with the ShaderMgr and
ccealignmodule and then finally the link was missing -lGLEW.

In any case it looks like I am all set but I thought the download would come 
closer to working right
away.

And the xyz files I wanted to display do appear to come up just great.

So do I need a license for the open source version?
Thanks.



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> From: marchy...@hotmail.com
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:53 -0400
> Subject: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to 
> view a "test" pdb.
>
>
>
>
> Is there some common reason for this?
> CPU on one core stays at 100 percent and no more menu's come up.
>
> The larger window says at the bottom that the version is supposed to be 
> licensed
> but I just pulled it down from sourceforge and not sure that this version 
> needs a key
> to work.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> note new address
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Re: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to view a "test" pdb.

2012-10-04 Thread Mike Marchywka




> CC: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> From: li...@cowsandmilk.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to 
> view a "test" pdb.
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 22:03:59 -0400
> To: marchy...@hotmail.com
>
> You don't need a license for the open source version.
>
> If you provided details on what OS/distribution you are building on, people 
> may try to replicate and understand why the python version hung. In my 
> experience, using setup.py generally worked out of the box.

Well, I thought there may be a dev list or something for the most of this stuff 
but in any case I'm on Ubuntu
but that probably was not a big factor for some of the issues I ran into  I 
just wanted to display
2 molecules side by side and could not get jmol or gdis to work right away and 
someone suggested
this. ( fwiw, I have my own molecule viewer that IIRC I wrote to learn glut on 
cygwin but
I imagine that would be an even bigger chore to port LOL). 

If I can reconstruct, I apparently started with pymol-v1.5.0.1.tar and I think 
at some point I ran
autoreconf -l thinking I could go the "configure" route but then did python 
setup.py  build and
install in separeate steps., This seemed to work but attempts to display the 
test pdb
files never displayed anything, I could not get any more menu's and one core 
was running
at 100 percent until I killed it.

Going the confugre route,  I think the first problem was with a bunch of 
undefined CGO things.
but you can see the changes below. The EXT thing was spurious probably as there 
was a missing -lGLEW
and I had to relink. This is obviously a raw dump of things that I tried along 
with stuff that ultimately
worked but fwiw. 


marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ find -mtime -2 -name "*.h"
./layer0/os_gl.h
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h
./generated/include/ShaderText.h
./config.h
marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ find -mtime -2 -name "*.c"
./layer0/ShaderText.c
./layer0/ShaderMgr.c
./layer3/Executive.c
./generated/src/ShaderText.c
./layer2/ObjectVolume.c
./layer1/CGO.c
./layer1/Scene.c
marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ 



marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ grep -n -A 2 mjm `find 
-mtime -2 -name "*.c" `
./layer0/ShaderMgr.c:97:      FeedbackAdd(G, " mjm forcing glew ok  Shaders 
available.\n");
./layer0/ShaderMgr.c:98:// this should work but turn off for now mjm
./layer0/ShaderMgr.c-99-//    if (GLEW_VERSION_2_0) 
./layer0/ShaderMgr.c-100-    if (1) 
--
./layer3/Executive.c:76:// mjm
./layer3/Executive.c-77-#include"modules/cealign/src/ce_types.h"
./layer3/Executive.c-78-/* Externals for CEAlign  */
--
./layer1/Scene.c:2910://mjm
./layer1/Scene.c-2911-  1.0F, 1.0F, 0.1F, 1.f
./layer1/Scene.c-2912-      };      
--
./layer1/Scene.c:1:   //mjm
./layer1/Scene.c-10001-//glBlitFramebufferEXT (0, 0, I->offscreen_width / 2, 
I->offscreen_height,
./layer1/Scene.c-10002-   glBlitFramebuffer (0, 0, I->offscreen_width / 2, 
I->offscreen_height,
--
./layer1/Scene.c:10007://mjm
./layer1/Scene.c-10008-   glBlitFramebuffer (I->offscreen_width / 2, 0, 
I->offscreen_width, I->offscreen_height,
./layer1/Scene.c-10009-   //glBlitFramebufferEXT (I->offscreen_width / 2, 0, 
I->offscreen_width, I->offscreen_height,
--
./layer1/Scene.c:10016:  //mjm
./layer1/Scene.c-10017- //glBlitFramebufferEXT (0, 0, I->offscreen_width, 
I->offscreen_height,
./layer1/Scene.c-10018-   glBlitFramebuffer (0, 0, I->offscreen_width, 
I->offscreen_height,
--
./layer1/Scene.c:10024: //mjm
./layer1/Scene.c-10025-//  glBlitFramebufferEXT (0, 0, I->offscreen_width, 
I->offscreen_height,
./layer1/Scene.c-10026-   glBlitFramebuffer (0, 0, I->offscreen_width, 
I->offscreen_height,
marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ 


marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ grep -n -A 2 mjm `find 
-mtime -2 -name "*.h" `
./layer0/os_gl.h:6:// mjm
./layer0/os_gl.h-7-//#if defined(_PYMOL_IOS) || defined(ANDROID)
./layer0/os_gl.h-8-#if 1
./layer0/os_gl.h:9:// mjm
./layer0/os_gl.h-10-// #define _PYMOL_PURE_OPENGL_ES
./layer0/os_gl.h-11-#define _PYMOL_CGO_DRAWARRAYS
--
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h:249:// mjm - these are in the 
games lass LOL
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h-250-int have_esp;
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h-251-int have_npa;
--
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h:312:// mjm
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h-313-int multiplicity;
./contrib/uiuc/plugins/include/molfile_plugin.h-314-int * esp_charges;  
marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ 



marchywka@marchywka-Latitude-E6510:~/d/pymol/pymol$ cat relink
gcc --verbose -shared  -fPIC -DPIC  -Wl,--no-as-needed -Wl,--whole-archive  
contrib/uiuc/plugins/molfile_plugin/src/.libs/libmolfile_plugin0.a 
modules/cealign/src/ccealignmodule.o ov/src/.libs/libov.a 
layer0/.libs/liblayer0.a layer1/.libs/liblayer1.a layer2

Re: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to view a "test" pdb.

2012-10-04 Thread David Hall
You don't need a license for the open source version.

If you provided details on what OS/distribution you are building on, people may 
try to replicate and understand why the python version hung. In my experience, 
using setup.py generally worked out of the box.

-David

On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Mike Marchywka  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> fwiw, I never figured out why the out-of-the-box build hung  using the python 
> approach
> but I went through the "./cogifure, make make install route"
> and did get the test molecules to display. However, I ran into lots of 
> problems with the ShaderMgr and
> ccealignmodule and then finally the link was missing -lGLEW.
> 
> In any case it looks like I am all set but I thought the download would come 
> closer to working right
> away.
> 
> And the xyz files I wanted to display do appear to come up just great.
> 
> So do I need a license for the open source version?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> note new address
> Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.
> formerly 487 Salem Woods Drive Marietta GA 30067 404-788-1216 (C)<- leave 
> message 989-348-4796 (P)<- emergency
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: marchy...@hotmail.com
>> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:53 -0400
>> Subject: [PyMOL] I just built pymol, comes up but hangs on any attempt to 
>> view a "test" pdb.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there some common reason for this?
>> CPU on one core stays at 100 percent and no more menu's come up.
>> 
>> The larger window says at the bottom that the version is supposed to be 
>> licensed
>> but I just pulled it down from sourceforge and not sure that this version 
>> needs a key
>> to work.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> note new address
>> Mike Marchywka 2295 Collinworth Drive Marietta GA 30062.
>> formerly 487 Salem Woods Drive Marietta GA 30067 404-788-1216 (C)<- leave 
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