Re: [PyMOL] weird visualization of a peptide structure

2008-12-19 Thread DeLano Scientific
Annalisa,
 
If bonds are not explicitly provided in the input file, then PyMOL infers
bonding based on distance.  Are the input coordinates valid?  It looks like
the atoms may be too close together in space...
 
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From: annalisa bordogna [mailto:annalisa.bordo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:40 AM
To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [PyMOL] weird visualization of a peptide structure


Hi all,
I have a little problem with the visualization of a peptide conformation: as
you can see from the picture I enclose, the structure appears as if every
atom is bound to every neighbour atom. What (and how) can I set in PyMOL, to
visualize a correct structure?

Thank you very much for your help.
Best regards,
Annalisa

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Re: [PyMOL] Mutating an Ion in Pymol and Displaying van der waals Radii

2008-12-19 Thread DeLano Scientific
Buz,

alter elem Na, elem='K'

iterate elem K, print vdw

show spheres, elem K

alter elem K, vdw=1.4

rebuild

iterate elem K, print vdw

color yellow, elem K

Cheers,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Buz Barstow [mailto:b...@mac.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:30 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] Mutating an Ion in Pymol and Displaying van 
> der waals Radii
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I'd like to mutate an ion in pymol from a potassium to a 
> sodium. Is there an easy way to do this from the command line 
> without having to edit the pdb file of the structure?
> 
> Also, when one displays an atom (for instance a K atom) using 
> the spheres representation, is the radius of the sphere equal 
> to the Pauling radius of the atom (under the assumption that 
> it is ionized)?  
> For K, it looks like it is.
> 
> Thanks! and all the best,
> 
> --Buz
> 
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Re: [PyMOL] surface properties

2008-12-19 Thread DeLano Scientific
Mark,

PyMOL does not have such abilities at present.  

Can such concepts even be defined in a precise, objective, and unambiguous
fashion?  

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> From: Mark Collins [mailto:mnc2...@columbia.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:38 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] surface properties
> 
> Hi All
> I have searched thru the archive and couldn't find an answer, 
> to this.  I would like to make pymol surface(s) colored by 
> (1) hydrophobicity and (2) concavity/convexity.
> These are easily produced in grasp, so one possibility maybe 
> to import some type of grasp file.
> Thanks in advance for suggestions, websites, or tutorials, etc.
> Mark
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Re: [PyMOL] adding python modules for MacPyMOL

2008-12-19 Thread DeLano Scientific
Hi Ben,

Current versions of MacPyMOL make use of the 2.3 version of the
operating-system-provided Python interpreter.  Future versions may behave
differently.

Officially speaking, if you need to integrate external
native-code-containing Python modules, then DeLano Scientific's sole
recommended approach is to compile the Open-Source PyMOL source code for X11
instead of using MacPyMOL/PyMOLX11Hybrid.  Unfortunately, the Python C ABI
is just too fragile for anything else to be practical...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Eisenbraun [mailto:b...@crystal.harvard.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:53 AM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] adding python modules for MacPyMOL
> 
> 
> Is it possible to add additional python modules to a MacPyMOL 
> installation?
> 
> I am trying to install the PyNMR plugin:
> 
> http://maple.rsvs.ulaval.ca/mediawiki/index.php/PyNMR
> 
> And it requires the Numeric python module.  I have an 
> external python installation  built with the module, but it 
> seems that MacPyMOL uses a bundled python interpreter.
> 
> I tried setting the PYTHONPATH to the modules directory of my 
> python build, but I get errors like this:
> 
> /programs/i386-mac/python/2.5.2/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Nu
meric/Numeric.py:91: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version > mismatch for
module multiarray: This Python has API version 
> 1012, module multiarray has version 1013.
> 
> I poked around in the PyMOLX11Hybrid.app directories, but 
> didn't see an obvious place I could add a module installation.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -ben
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Re: [PyMOL] Ray Tracing A Protein Gallery

2008-12-19 Thread Warren DeLano

> 1. Use the grid_mode option (only available in the compiled from
> source pymols)

FYI: grid_mode and many other enhancements will be present in the
soon-to-be-available PyMOL 1.2 BETA builds.  The annual PyMOL release
cycle for "official" PyMOL builds has settled down as follows:

- Summer:  The major annual release is cut in June/July, followed by any
necessary patch/updates during the summer so that we enter the academic
cycle with a robust build intended for widespread adoption.

- Fall:  We hunker down and tackle the toughest development challenges
for the year, issuing few releases since the code at its most unstable
and incompatible condition.  

- Winter:  Starting in January, we begin issuing a series of routine
beta builds with all the new stuff, so that the bold and the daring can
try things out and begin reporting any issues.

- Spring:  We freeze the feature set then stabilize and test everything
as much as possible in anticipation of the robust major release at the
start of summer.

Of course, the open-source "trunk" is available to developers at any
time of the year :).

Cheers,
Warren

> -Original Message-
> From: Buz Barstow [mailto:b...@mac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:27 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Ray Tracing A Protein Gallery
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Thanks for all your suggestions on ray tracing the protein gallery.
> 
> In the end, I used several of the techniques suggested, and everything
> worked out really well!
> 
> To summarize:
> 
> 1. Use the grid_mode option (only available in the compiled from
> source pymols)
> 2. Make a fake .pdb that has the corners and centers of a 3D box to
> use for alignment
> 3. Use the set_view command to apply the same viewing matrix
> 4. Use the zoom command with a center and a distance specified.
> 
> Also, the cealign package is really helpful for aligning and
> translating very dissimilar molecules.
> 
> Thanks! and all the best,
> 
> --Buz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, DeLano Scientific wrote:
> 
> > Hi Buz,
> >
> > You can use "center" as a selection name for input with zoom, along
> > with a
> > distance value.
> >
> > zoom center, distance
> >
> > e.g.
> >
> > # first, get the object you want in the center of the screen
> >
> > orient
> >
> > # then zoom the viewer by a fixed amount about the center point
> >
> > zoom center, 10
> >
> > # you may also wish to move the clipping planes in/out to avoid
> > cutting into
> > any of the molecular representations:
> >
> > clip atoms, 4, selection=all
> >
> > # also, depending upon the application, you might want to disable
> > perspective
> >
> > set orthoscopic
> >
> > # get rid of background pixels
> >
> > unset opaque_background
> >
> > # render
> >
> > ray
> >
> > # and save
> >
> > save struct001.png
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Warren
> >
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> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Buz Barstow [mailto:b...@mac.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:42 AM
> >> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: [PyMOL] Ray Tracing A Protein Gallery
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> I'm making a gallery of protein molecules for my PhD thesis.
> >> I'd like to find an automatic way to ensure that all of the
> >> ray traced images have the same scale. Is there an easy way
> >> to do this?
> >>
> >> Thanks! and all the best,
> >>
> >> --Buz
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Re: [PyMOL] weird visualization of a peptide structure

2008-12-19 Thread annalisa bordogna
Hi Andrew,

thank you for your answer: now I have a clue!
I knew that the structure is a NMR model, but what I didn't understand was
that some atoms were repeated (with different coordinates). Now I have
pruned my structure file and I can see a much more acceptable structure.

Thank you very much,
Annalisa


2008/12/19 Andrew Purkiss-Trew 

> Hi Annalisa,
>
> Is the original coordinate file an NMR structure? It looks to me like
> there are several copies of each atom, which is consistent with the pdb
> file resulting from an NMR refinement. These will usually have several
> different models of the peptide, all consistent with the NMR data.
>
> You will need to extract just one set of coordinates and look at those.
> Which set of coordinates to use depends on the software used to generate
> the pdb, but look for the first or the 'best' model, the pdb header
> should tell you which is best.
>
> Hope this helps at bit
>
> Andrew Purkiss-Trew
>
> On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 15:40 +0100, annalisa bordogna wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have a little problem with the visualization of a peptide
> > conformation: as you can see from the picture I enclose, the structure
> > appears as if every atom is bound to every neighbour atom. What (and
> > how) can I set in PyMOL, to visualize a correct structure?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help.
> > Best regards,
> > Annalisa
> >
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> > Milano, IT
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Re: [PyMOL] weird visualization of a peptide structure

2008-12-19 Thread Andrew Purkiss-Trew
Hi Annalisa,

Is the original coordinate file an NMR structure? It looks to me like
there are several copies of each atom, which is consistent with the pdb
file resulting from an NMR refinement. These will usually have several
different models of the peptide, all consistent with the NMR data. 

You will need to extract just one set of coordinates and look at those.
Which set of coordinates to use depends on the software used to generate
the pdb, but look for the first or the 'best' model, the pdb header
should tell you which is best. 

Hope this helps at bit

Andrew Purkiss-Trew

On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 15:40 +0100, annalisa bordogna wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a little problem with the visualization of a peptide
> conformation: as you can see from the picture I enclose, the structure
> appears as if every atom is bound to every neighbour atom. What (and
> how) can I set in PyMOL, to visualize a correct structure?
> 
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Best regards,
> Annalisa
> 
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Re: [PyMOL] surface properties

2008-12-19 Thread Andreas Henschel

Hi Mark,

I remember that Kristian Rother's rTools could do hydrophobicity coloring:
http://www.rubor.de/pymol_extensions.html
it is some years ago, so maybe it needs some updateing..

Best,
Andreas

DeLano Scientific wrote:

Mark,

PyMOL does not have such abilities at present.  


Can such concepts even be defined in a precise, objective, and unambiguous
fashion?  


Cheers,
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From: Mark Collins [mailto:mnc2...@columbia.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:38 AM

To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [PyMOL] surface properties

Hi All
I have searched thru the archive and couldn't find an answer, 
to this.  I would like to make pymol surface(s) colored by 
(1) hydrophobicity and (2) concavity/convexity.
These are easily produced in grasp, so one possibility maybe 
to import some type of grasp file.

Thanks in advance for suggestions, websites, or tutorials, etc.
Mark

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[PyMOL] cmd.scene('*')

2008-12-19 Thread Malcolm E Davis
In a Python script I am working on I would like to get a list of the 
scenes that are defined.  Unfortunately, cmd.scene('*') just prints the 
list to stdout, but doesn't return anything.  That is, if I have a 
script test.py that looks like



from pymol import cmd
x = cmd.scene('*')
print x



And I type "run test.py" in PyMol I get the following output


PyMOL>run test.py
 scene: stored scenes:
  F1  F2
x='None'



Is there a different mechanism to get a list of defined scenes?  Or an 
argument, I've missed?


I have the following work around


from pymol import cmd
import sys
from StringIO import StringIO

tmp = StringIO()
(tmp,sys.stdout) = (sys.stdout,tmp)
cmd.scene('*')
(tmp,sys.stdout) = (sys.stdout,tmp)
list = tmp.getvalue().split("\n")[1].split()
print list


which generates what I want


PyMOL>run test.py
['F1', 'F2']


but that seems less than elegant.

Malcolm



Re: [PyMOL] cmd.scene('*')

2008-12-19 Thread Warren DeLano
Malcolm,

I believe the method you want is:

print cmd.get_scene_list()

Hopefully that method is present in the PyMOL build you are running!

Cheers,
Warren

> -Original Message-
> From: Malcolm E Davis [mailto:malcolm.da...@bms.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:46 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [PyMOL] cmd.scene('*')
> 
> In a Python script I am working on I would like to get a list of the
> scenes that are defined.  Unfortunately, cmd.scene('*') just prints
the
> list to stdout, but doesn't return anything.  That is, if I have a
> script test.py that looks like
> 
> > from pymol import cmd
> > x = cmd.scene('*')
> > print x
> 
> 
> And I type "run test.py" in PyMol I get the following output
> 
> > PyMOL>run test.py
> >  scene: stored scenes:
> >   F1  F2
> > x='None'
> 
> 
> Is there a different mechanism to get a list of defined scenes?  Or an
> argument, I've missed?
> 
>  I have the following work around
> 
> > from pymol import cmd
> > import sys
> > from StringIO import StringIO
> >
> > tmp = StringIO()
> > (tmp,sys.stdout) = (sys.stdout,tmp)
> > cmd.scene('*')
> > (tmp,sys.stdout) = (sys.stdout,tmp)
> > list = tmp.getvalue().split("\n")[1].split()
> > print list
> 
> which generates what I want
> 
> > PyMOL>run test.py
> > ['F1', 'F2']
> 
> but that seems less than elegant.
> 
> Malcolm
> 
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