[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet : so unpredictable
Can you post an example of what your are trying to do? On Apr 17, 7:30 am, goacid wrote: > Hi all, > > I use puppet with many modules since few times, and I remark that > puppet take long time to finished, because I take some action which > depends on others which are not yet executed. > So I tried to put enough require/before inside my modules to be sur > that the order of differents actions will be the good one, because > some actions depends on another part of other modules. > > But in fact, running puppet on a fresh installed server take action in > a certain order, and often I does not take care of the dependencies I > try to configure. After re installation of the server, I run again > puppet, the order of the action are not the same, sometimes better, > sometimes not, but never the same. > > Does anyone have any information about puppet dependency, the > puppetwiki is very poor concerning this question. And more important, > how does puppet choose the way it will act on a server, first thing, > second things ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Puppet Camp
We are organizing a Puppet mini conf. The time frame is Septemberish, but no locations or dates are set, which is essentially the point of this email. For locations, I'm proposing Salt Lake City, UT, Portland, OR, or somewhere in or around SF/Silicon Valley with my list of pros and cons. Salt Lake City Pros * Beautiful Fall * New Improved Liquor Laws * Almost Central * Most Affordable Accommodations * Easy for me to arrange * I am selfish Cons * Not as much Puppet community as some places * Luke is allergic to religion Portland Pros * We love the city * Luke hopes to move there * Chance to build local Puppet community Cons * Know less about the options * Probably need to make arrangements without anyone seeing the venue Bay Area Pros * Lot's of local Puppet users * Lot's of people that know the area and options to help make arrangements Cons * Most expensive accommodations if we go with the city proper The format I have in mind is 2 days of experience reports, and workshops showing and sharing what people are doing, leaving a third of the time for unconference style discussion. The cost will be minimal, something like $100, enough to cover the venue, some food and probably a T-shirt. Looking for opinions on the location and dates, then volunteers interested in presenting, leading discussions or helping to organize things. Regards, Andrew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet : so unpredictable
Puppet builds a dependency graph of the described resources, sorts the graph and then walks the graph. Order is only guaranteed on sub trees of the dependency graph. If you have something where order matters and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't they you haven't specified at least one dependency. On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:30 AM, goacid wrote: > > Hi all, > > I use puppet with many modules since few times, and I remark that > puppet take long time to finished, because I take some action which > depends on others which are not yet executed. > So I tried to put enough require/before inside my modules to be sur > that the order of differents actions will be the good one, because > some actions depends on another part of other modules. > > But in fact, running puppet on a fresh installed server take action in > a certain order, and often I does not take care of the dependencies I > try to configure. After re installation of the server, I run again > puppet, the order of the action are not the same, sometimes better, > sometimes not, but never the same. > > Does anyone have any information about puppet dependency, the > puppetwiki is very poor concerning this question. And more important, > how does puppet choose the way it will act on a server, first thing, > second things ... > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp
2009/4/19 Andrew Shafer : > > We are organizing a Puppet mini conf. Cool > The time frame is Septemberish, but no locations or dates are set, which is > essentially the point of this email. > For locations, I'm proposing Salt Lake City, UT, Portland, OR, or somewhere > in or around SF/Silicon Valley with my list of pros and cons. > The format I have in mind is 2 days of experience reports, and workshops > showing and sharing what people are doing, leaving a third of the time for > unconference style discussion. Yeah having open spaces, etc would be good. Video for those who can't make it would be also good. > The cost will be minimal, something like $100, enough to cover the venue, > some food and probably a T-shirt. > Looking for opinions on the location and dates, then volunteers interested > in presenting, leading discussions or helping to organize things. It's probably easier for non-us attendees to get direct flight to the Bay Area (or the east coast - Boston/NY) than to either Portland or Salt Lake City. A city where driving is non-essential would be a plus for me. Paul --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Puppet Meet with Luke - London Monday 27th April
Luke is going to be in town, and I thought it'd be good to arrange a meet for beer/discussion and maybe some food afterwards. I was thinking of the Veggie Indian places along Drummond St for Dosa, etc. Meet in the Bree Louise near Euston http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/40/4034/Bree_Louise/Euston for some real ale from 18:30 Paul --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Shafer wrote: > For locations, I'm proposing Salt Lake City, UT, Portland, OR, or > somewhere in or around SF/Silicon Valley with my list of pros and cons. My preference is SF/Bay or Portland. No offence Andrew but both of these are easier and cheaper for me. :P > * Luke is allergic to religion Ditto. > * We love the city Ditto. > The format I have in mind is 2 days of experience reports, and workshops > showing and sharing what people are doing, leaving a third of the time > for unconference style discussion. Video is a must. > The cost will be minimal, something like $100, enough to cover the > venue, some food and probably a T-shirt. Fine with me. > Looking for opinions on the location and dates, then volunteers > interested in presenting, leading discussions or helping to organize things. Happy to do any of that pre-work that can be done remotely. Also happy to lead some discussions/help out/mutter drunkenly/etc. Regards James Turnbull - -- Author of: * Pro Linux Systems Administration (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430219122/) * Pulling Strings with Puppet (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590599780/) * Pro Nagios 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590596099/) * Hardening Linux (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159059/) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ68mX9hTGvAxC30ARAkNSAJ9Wo4F3jsu2qHpawzc3QRX9NcbbigCfQHi7 KiE4PeOAJdlxgSnw+TcIN3k= =Jz+5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM, James Turnbull wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Shafer wrote: > > For locations, I'm proposing Salt Lake City, UT, Portland, OR, or > > somewhere in or around SF/Silicon Valley with my list of pros and cons. > > My preference is SF/Bay or Portland. No offence Andrew but both of > these are easier and cheaper for me. :P > Portland costs you quite a bit more than SF, no? Granted you'll probably make up the difference on the hotel... I just like Salt Lake because I know the infrastructure and can get the whole thing arranged with a few phone calls. (That's venue, wireless, food and video.) If SF makes the most sense logistically and people there can help hook it all up, then SF is golden. > * We love the city > > Ditto. > Let me give you a tour of SLC... won't be too painful, I promise. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Paul Nasrat wrote: > It's probably easier for non-us attendees to get direct flight to the > Bay Area (or the east coast - Boston/NY) than to either Portland or > Salt Lake City. A city where driving is non-essential would be a plus > for me. Hmmm, NYC would be preferable for me (I'm really selfish and don't want to travel) :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Puppet Users] Re: Puppet Camp
On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Paul Nasrat > wrote: >> It's probably easier for non-us attendees to get direct flight to the >> Bay Area (or the east coast - Boston/NY) than to either Portland or >> Salt Lake City. A city where driving is non-essential would be a plus >> for me. > > Hmmm, NYC would be preferable for me (I'm really selfish and don't > want to travel) :) Of course for me too, but think SF/SJ is the best bang for your buck. -L -- Larry Ludwig Reductive Labs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
