Re: kernel-header.rpm where?

[David]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, David Sudjiman wrote:
> where can I found kernel-header.rpm in rh80 cd?

You can't.  You'll need glibc-kernheaders, or the appropriate 
kernel-source RPM (if you're trying to compile a kernel module).

David.

Re: i386 package name

[David]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Mike Chambers wrote:
> 
> Except for those packages that are built against multiple architectures, why
> do we even need the i386 in the name anyway?
> 
> Things like kernel, glibc and such I understand.  But if packages are built
> to run on just about every machine, then why not just leave it off?

They use "noarch" instead.

David.

Re: kernel-header.rpm where?

[David]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, David wrote:
> >On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, David Sudjiman wrote:
> >> where can I found kernel-header.rpm in rh80 cd?
> >
> >You can't.  You'll need glibc-kernheaders, or the appropriate 
> >kernel-source RPM (if you're trying to compile a kernel module).
> 
> No, this is explicitly wrong.  glibc-kernheaders must NOT be used 
> for compiling kernel modules.

That's why I said to install the kernel-source RPM if he was trying to 
compile a kernel module. :)

David.

Re: PHP and Form Data

[David]

On 23 Oct 2002, Clark D. Wells wrote:
> 
> I have installed psyche on two computers and both have the
> same problem:
> 
> Variables passed from a form are not seen by the php
> file.  I have written many php pages that worked fine
> until I moved to redhat 8.0 and now none of them see
> the data passed from the forms.

Probably because your code is relying on register_globals being enabled.  
(which is now disabled by default with PHP >= 4.2)

It's best to fix your code so that register_globals is not necessary.
(ie.  use $_POST["var"] or $_GET["var"], instead of $var)

David.

Re: How to Change Vfat ownership and permissions?

[David]

On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, John P Verel wrote:
> 
> I'm finding impossible to change ownership and permissions on my vfat
> partititon.  Even as root, I get denied.

You can only set the user/group ownership for the whole filesystem, and 
only at mount time.  FAT can't handle unix filesystem semantics.

David.

Re: gcc not seeing.

[David]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Darrel wrote:
> 
> I have no idea what has changed in gcc 3.2 that is so different I can't 
> compile anything.

Standards conformance.

> --
> #include 
> 
> int main()
> {
>   cout << "Hello World\n";

change this to:
std::cout << "Hello World\n";

>   return 0;
> }
> --
> ...

(and use g++ when compiling C++ code)

David.

Re: php short tags

[David]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> Is there a reason the php.ini default is set to
> short_open_tag = Off

XML.

> This is most inconvenient for scripts which use
>  style of scripting

It's only 3 extra characters.  Just  s/

Re: A thought about psyche

[David]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, John wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Michael Fratoni wrote:
> > up2date checks the Red Hat server for package information. It will happily 
> > skip downloading any updates if you point it to a directory containing 
> > the updated files.
> That's no good. It goes against my bandwidth allocation, and prevents me
> from benefiting from local mirrors that don't get charged against it.

It only needs to retrieve the package listings/headers.  I just ran it a 
few times on a number of machines - a total of 104.4kB downstream.

> ... 
> Even so, there are currently _NO_ official RH mirrors on WAIX whereas
> there are at least two Debian mirrors.

ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/redhat/
May not be "official", but I believe it's on WAIX.

> ... 
> I actually did try RHN when I was running (null). I wanted to get a list
> of all possible updates, so I did an "install everything" (null)
> install, registered, and then could never connect in order to get my
> list of updates, and that despite trying repeatedly at short intervals
> for a day or more.

A day or more?  IIRC, It didn't work for a few weeks.

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Re: RH8.0 Bug w/ PHP - Still need help

[David]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Joel Webb wrote:
> Has anybody done a PHP recompile yet with RH 8.0 with the SRC RPM's??

Not me.

> I need to find out how to force the SPEC file to see sendmail. I have 
> already tried

I can't see any configure option for the location of sendmail.

The default php.ini gets patched when building the Red Hat RPMs.  
Maybe your specfile isn't doing that.

$ grep sendmail /etc/php.ini
sendmail_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; For Unix only.  You may supply arguments as well (default: "sendmail -t -i").
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i

> --with-sendmail=/usr/bin/sendmailAND
> --with-sendmail-dir=/usr/bin
> 
> NO LUCK!

It's in /usr/sbin, not /usr/bin.
(and it's a symlink to whatever MTA has been selected with "alternatives")

> I am using RH 8.0 with sendmail. I needed to install PHP with mhash
> support and have recompiled it. After installing the new RPM binaries,
> I noticed I lost support for the mail() function.

Check your php.ini.

> ... 
> This is how I am recompiling...
> 
> rpmbuild -bp php-blah.spec 1>bp.log
> -then-
> rpmbuild -bb php-blah.spec 1>bb.log

"rpmbuild -bb ..." will suffice.

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V4L

[david]

Hey all,
  I'm trying to get V4L working on my box here and I can't seem to be able to 
get the Kernel to compile right.  Every time I select V4L and the options 
needed for it (found in the README) it bombs out of the compile and never spits 
out the kernel.  I've got Kernel 2.4.18-18 and the src, running on a P3 850, 
768MB Ram, ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon.  Also just something on the side I can't 
remember if it was on the list or not but I wanted to be able to play UT2003 
with my card.  As much as I can remember what I would have to install is the 
xig.com Summit v2.2 xserver and drivers that would support 3D under ATI.  I 
know they also have some kinda of TV Tuner software with it but I didn't want 
to spend $119 unless all my other options went south.  Can someone give me any 
tips of what I may be doing wrong? Thaks guy.

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Re: Mozilla, Galeon not rendering pages

[David]

On 2 Oct 2002, Gerry Tool wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 08:06, Gerry Tool wrote:
> > For the first couple of days, mozilla worked great.  Now mozilla and
> > galeon will only render partial pages on startup.  The toolbars only
> > show partially and moving the mouse over the toolbars will "uncover"
> > additional details, but I can't get the whole page to appear.  Konquerer
> > works fine, fortunately.
> > 
> > Anyone else experience this?

No..  Haven't seen that behaviour for a long time.

> > Any ideas about what to uninstall/reinstall?
> 
> Uninstalling/reinstalling the mozilla packages did not fix the problem.

Tried renaming ~/.mozilla and restarting it?

Dave.

Re: vt8233a southbridge

[David]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> >On 4 Oct 2002, Peter L. Hurd wrote:
> 
> I'm using a Gigabyte 7VRX (same chipset as the Asus, IIRC) with an 
> Athlon 1800+, and i'm experiencing the same problems with IDE errors 
> that Peter is (see below).
> ...
> It still doesn't seem to be right.  Here's what happens on my system on 
> IDE initialization:

Mine looks similar - just different drives and no CRC failures.

> VP_IDE: VIA vt8233a (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci00:11.1
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
> hda: MAXTOR 6L080J4, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: MAXTOR 6L080J4, ATA DISK drive
> hdd: LITEON DVD-ROM LTD163D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> Partition check:
>  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 >
>  hdc:hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
> ...
> ide1: reset: success
> 
> The dma_intr errors and the ide reset repeat several times during the 
> boot.  After it's booted, all seems well (except that the DVD drive on 
> hdd drags the UDMA133 HD on hdc down to 24 Mb/s instead of 40 Mb/s like 
> hda).

Does it work okay if you unplug the DVD drive?  Have you tried replacing 
or re-positioning the ATA cable?  Are both drives using DMA?

My DVD and CD-writer (sharing the same channel) both use DMA okay.

> >>Machines running the unpatched 2.4.18-14 kernel start segfaulting after
> >>24-48hrs of uptime.
> >
> >This sounds like a problem with your hardware.
> 
> My uptime says:
> 12:43pm  up 16:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.01
> 
> We'll see what happens in a day or two.  :-)  I've seen no signs of 
> anything looking like motherboard instability yet, but i've been 
> rebooting fairly regularly back to Windows, since i can't get sound 
> working & thus can't play DVDs.

Do you get random applications segfaulting?
(I'm assuming this is what Peter was describing, which is almost 
certainly a hardware-related problem)

I had some major stability problems at first with my A7V333, until I 
worked around the BIOS bugs.  No problems since. :)

David.

Re: vt8233a southbridge

[David]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> David wrote:
> >Does it work okay if you unplug the DVD drive?  Have you tried replacing 
> >or re-positioning the ATA cable?
> I'll try some of these after i've finished my assignment for college...  ;-)

Good idea. :)

> Have you shared a bus between a DVD & a hard drive?

Not on this system.

> I think in the long term i'll have to buy a separate IDE controller for 
> the DVD.

Yeah, it would be worth it.

> >I had some major stability problems at first with my A7V333, until I 
> >worked around the BIOS bugs.  No problems since. :)
> What BIOS does the A7V333 use?  What were the symptoms of your stability 
> problems?

Automatic configuration of the RAM timings ("By SPD") doesn't work on this 
motherboard.  With various DIMMS, I would get random lockups, memtest86 
failures, etc.  Works perfectly if I manually set the timings.

David.

Re: vt8233a southbridge

[David]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, James Ralston wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, David wrote:
> > Automatic configuration of the RAM timings ("By SPD") doesn't work
> > on this motherboard.
> WORKSFORME; I've never had any problems with the "By SPD" setting on
> my Asus A7V333, regardless of the BIOS version (currently 1011, but I
> didn't have any problems with older versions either).

I didn't mean to imply it is a characteristic of all A7V333 motherboards, 
but it's certainly the case with mine.  I tested 4 sticks of brand-name 
DDR (PC2700 and PC2100) - none worked with SPD.
(I initially thought my Corsair XMS was faulty, but that's not the case)

> > With various DIMMS, I would get random lockups, memtest86 failures,
> > etc.  Works perfectly if I manually set the timings.
> Are you certain the modules you had problems with supported SPD?  Not
> all modules do...

Yes, all 4 DIMMs worked fine in other motherboards set to use SPD.

I've seen other A7V333s that do work with SPD, so perhaps I have a strange 
motherboard, or only a certain revision/BIOS combination does this.

David.

Re: NFS server + iptables == pain

[David Durst]

> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 111 --syn -j ACCEPT

I believe you will need to remove the above rule and replace it w/ these
two following rules.

-A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i  -p tcp -m tcp --dport nfs -j ACCEPT
-A RH-Lokkit-0-50 INPUT -p  -p tcp -m tcp --dport sunrpc -j
ACCEPT

You might also want to add UDP access.

-A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i  -p udp -m udp --dport nfs -j ACCEPT
-A RH-Lokkit-0-50 INPUT -p  -p udp -m udp --dport sunrpc -j
ACCEPT

you should also probably modify your nfs start up script in

/etc/init.d/nfs


NFS has a habit of opening up a RANDOM port for mountd so
you can hardcode this port in the start up script by adding

MOUNTD_PORT=100
if [ -n "$MOUNTD_PORT" ]; then
RPCMOUNTDOPTS="$RPCMOUNTDOPTS --port $MOUNTD_PORT"
fi

I think I added this right around like 48.

In fact I can't remember if I even added the whole thing
but by screwing around w/
MOUNTD_PORT
you can then set the Firewall rules around allowing access to this port

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Re: sysctl seg-fault. How to diagnose?

[David Juran]

Peter Larsen wrote:


However, I've found that running sysctl -a on one box (PII-400) results in a segmentation fault:

[root@dilbert etc]# sysctl -a
sunrpc.nlm_debug = 0
sunrpc.nfsd_debug = 0
sunrpc.nfs_debug = 0
sunrpc.rpc_debug = 0
abi.fake_utsname = 0
abi.trace = 0
abi.defhandler_libcso = 68157441
abi.defhandler_lcall7 = 68157441
abi.defhandler_elf = 0
abi.defhandler_coff = 117440515
Segmentation fault

And I have NO clue how to diagnose the sysctl program.


The first step would probably to make sure you got a core-file and look 
into it. And/or report it as a bug to redhat https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

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Samba Permissions

[David . Grudek]

I have samba working correctly just past the point of the share.  If I have
a share called data and a sub folder called accounting and i want change
the permission's on that folder the same way I could in windoze, how could
I do that?  I want to limit it to specific people or groups.  I also want
to limit it to one person read, one person write, one person denied access,
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Permissions with Samba

[David . Grudek]

I have samba working correctly just past the point of the share.  If I have
a share called data and a sub folder called accounting and i want change
the permission's on that folder the same way I could in windoze, how could
I do that?  I want to limit it to specific people or groups.  I also want
to limit it to one person read, one person write, one person denied access,
or one person full control.  Basically, How do I change permissions on
subdirectories that are not listed in the smb.conf file.




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Act 6.0

[David . Grudek]

Does anyone know if there is an alternative to act 6.0 that runs on red hat
8.0, for contact management?




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Open Office & JRE 1.4.1

[David Durst]

I am not sure if open office is still Java depended in some way.

But I recently discovered after installing the J2SDK 1.4.1 that
it ceased to function.

Does anyone have any insight???




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Re: Open Office & JRE 1.4.1

[David Durst]

H, the amazing thing is a I have now read all of the posts
in reply to my original and still don't have a clear view if
anyone else has experience this issue.

I would really not devel into the politics of Java on Linux as
I have before, but let me say this I think it is both
Sun and Redhats at fault in different ways.

As far as Java being slow, hmmm lemme just say NO. Maybe for GUI
but I think think you could classify Java as slow by any means,
memory intensive for sure but not slow (P.S. Try adjusting OO to use
a little bit more memory and see how that helps the performance)

So here goes my conclusion of what has happened to my machine and why OO
doesn't work now.

1. Worked w/ out Java.
2. Worked w/ Java 1.3
3. Doesn't work now that 1.4 is here

I think there is probably some nasty dependency buried deep down inside OO
that will work if Java isn't there (Why RH has been fooled), it will work
if the developed againest JVM is there (1.3).  But for some reason the
same dependency/code executed againest 1.4 causes a break.

Just a random though, now can someone tell me if I have any insight at all,
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Re: Open Office & JRE 1.4.1

[David Durst]

> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:45, JD wrote:
>
>> I remember soffice 5.1 & 5.2 that was so java..., thanks goodness it's
>> gone!
>
> Interesting thing then that soffice 5.x is (and 6 still is) written in
> C++. It's just the scripting engine which uses the Java runtime.
>
> Klaasjan

Then I am wondering why my problem exsists.




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Re: Open Office & JRE 1.4.1

[David Durst]

> Let's take Eclipse who is nothing more that a glorified editor written
> in Java.  It takes some 30 CPU seconds just to start in a 450 MHz
> K6/2.   Isn't that slow enough?
>
>   JFM

As I said GUI is not very good in Java, but making a blanket statement
that Java is slow is probably from limited experience in using it.

On a side note, there are some abstract aproaches to developing GUI in
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Re: Newest Iptables Again! :(

[David Durst]

This may sound strange but have you tried.

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

With out setting this to 1 your machine will not forward any request.
But since I can't not make out specifically what you are asking
I really can't help more that suggesting you check the above.

> No with this the conecction DEAD!
>
> i supouse when have NAT lose de gateway is this possible? because when
> apply the rules the connection to internet from 192.168.1.33 lost.
>
> its very rare no?
>
> If anyone have another idea please send me :(
>
>
>
>> > I send this question again if is possible to anyone help me. or if
>> is possble.
>> >
>> > > Hi, Me AGAIN and my iptables problem.! :(
>> > >
>> > > again description my net and my problem.
>> > >
>> > > Have a 200.40.226.64 /28 net *public NET
>> > > have a 192.168.1.0 /24 net *private NET
>> > >
>> > > have a 200.40.226.66 server running iptables * Is the gateway
>> > >
>> > > have a VoIp box THIS is the PROBLEM.
>> > > i need to put behind the firewall and have the address
>> 192.168.1.33 but i need to outside with 200.40.226.69 and received
>> external requirements with this ip but iptables not function for
>> me. i Put this lines but dont work i need Route? or something
>> else???
>> > >
>> > > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.33/255.255.255.255 -o
>> eth0 -j SNAT --to 200.40.226.70
>> > >
>> > > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING  -s 200.40.226.70/255.255.255.255 -i
>> eth0 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.33
>> > >
>>
>> I've only set up NAT once, so I'm not sure if I can help you, but here
>> goes:
>>
>> Have you set up forwarding? On my setup I had to make sure that
>> traffic from  the computer behind the firewall was forwarded. I would
>> try something like  this on your setup:
>>
>> # Forwarding ALL traffic from your internal lan on the ethernet device
>>  # $LAN_IFACE: Or you could do something similar to the line accepting
>> traffic  # from 200.40.226.70.
>> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN_IFACE -j ACCEPT
>>
>> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -s 200.40.226.70 -d 192.168.1.33 -j ACCEPT
>>
>> # Accepting forwarded traffic started by
>> $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
>>
>> # Then
>>
>> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.33 -o eth0 -j SNAT
>> --to-source \ 200.40.226.70
>> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 200.40.226.70 -j DNAT \
>> --to-destination  192.168.1.33
>>
>> # You could probably be a bit more restrictive than the above lines.
>>
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/etc/fstab

[David Sudjiman]

Dear Senior,

I'm using rh80 and curious about the /etc/fstab (I did man fstab)
1. I found

none/dev/ptsdevptsgid=5,mode=62000
none/procproc defaults   00
none/dev/shmtmpfs   defaults  00

what are that for?

2.  I have my win partition and I need it to be available on linux. Then I
add this line to my /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1/mnt/winvfatdefaults 0 0

but then I found that only root can write to this partition.. how can I make
every user in can write to this?


thx

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xine no voice

[David Sudjiman]

Dear All,

I just installed my xine on rh80 (latest xine i guess) and I can hear the
sound and video from my vcd at the beginning. For the minutes after, I
suddenly can hear any.. some sugestions?

thx
.dave

Someone is speaking well of you.

How unusual!



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XFS Filesystem

[David . Grudek]

Does any one know how to get the XFS file system to work on redhat 8.  I have looked for a good how to but can't find any.  I am new to linux but need this to work for samba and acl's.

Filesystems

[David . Grudek]

Does anyone know why different filesystems are available on so many of the other distro's but Red Hat does not support them.  Mandrake, Suse, Debian, Slackware, and others do support xfs.  It handles acl's natively and Red Hat took out acl support in there new kernel yet they won't support filesystems that do support ACL's.  I called Red Hat to ask questions about the issue but they went off claiming that all of these other distro's suck.  I think so far that all these other distro's have more support for these different situations.  They also claimed that just recently that they changed their policy, even if you buy a copy of Red Hat they will not support you like they did before, unless you buy the advanced server version.  I am a newbie to linux trying to get off of M$ but this does not seem like a place with any better attitude then M$ themselves. I hope that I am wrong.  If anyone has had different ex!
periences with Red Hat  please let me know.  I am hoping that I just got a guy in a bad mood.  If any one know's where you can put in a request for new features to be added to the distro for Red Hat I would appreciate it.

ACL Gui for XFS filesystem

[David . Grudek]

I got XFS working on redhat with the kernel and patches from sgi.com.  I am really new to linux and am still in the process of learning linux.  I have got the understanding of normal permissions now.  I have read some howto's on acl's and can not figure it out.  I was wondering if there is a gui interface that I can change the acl's on XFS with redhat 8 while I'm in my learning curve.

Hole in Procmail Relay disable??

[David Coleman]

Greetings --

I've discovered a hole in Procmail's disabling of
relays.  I am sure there is a way to protect against
this, but it's very disconcerting.  This is the log
message I've captured:

Feb 10 20:36:07 carefree postfix/qmgr[1062]:
988B6D82B: from=<>, size=8562, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 20:36:07 carefree postfix/smtpd[9452]:
disconnect from spring.viawest.net[216.87.85.207]
Feb 10 20:36:09 carefree postfix/smtp[9458]:
988B6D82B: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
relay=mail.aspens
nowmass.com[216.237.72.142], delay=2, status=sent (250
2.6.0  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Queued mail for delivery)


Notice that it seems to have sent the message even
though it was a relay.  Normal behavior is shown in
another part of the log where the source mail address
is not null:

Feb 12 00:43:26 carefree postfix/smtpd[12302]: reject:
RCPT from unknown[211.192.23.172]: 554 : Recipient address rejected: Relay access
denied; from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=


Is there a configuration setting I have missed that
will inhibit the relay if the source mail address is
null???

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Moving RH-8 Evolution from old PC to New

[David Moore]

Can someone tell me what the process is of transfering my email
folders from one pc to another?
Thanks.

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Re: And Now Hate Mail?

[David Durst]

> This one time, at band camp,
> Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> The Red Hat mailing lists like the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel
>> are a place for help, discussion and when things hot up a damn good
>> constructive argument. I would ask you to step back Mr Lowell and
>> re-read and reflect and possibly come back too us a little calmer and
>> take the information given in the good will it was offered by the
>> numerous list members.
>
> This is just a pointless message to add to this pointless thread.
>
> Kevin

Just to add my 2 cents to the thread.

I have seen alot of this come up in this mailing list in the last couple of
months.  Maybe back in the day RTFM was an acceptable answer because we
had been dealing w/ people that saw the actual command line, now that
Red Hat in many ways has been moving away from that. We might be dealing
w/ users that don't know that this stuff exsists or if they do they maybe
confused at the over complexity of a man page ( I know I was when I first
started to read them).

Now since I don't know the specifics of the question, I will now proceed
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Bad-sector HD in Laptop

[David Sudjiman]

Dear all,

I have a bad-sector in my Notebook HD and that's why sometimes I got my
application error in rh80. Do you have any idea on how I can fix this?.. I
cleaned my partition already.


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Srpm, How to compile smb with acl support

[David . Grudek]

Does anyone know where a newbie such as myself could find a really indepth how to on srpm compiling?  I have searched many sites but they are pretty vague for a newbie.

snortcenter-agent error

[David Sudjiman]

Dear All,

Any idea why I got this? while I was installing snortcenter-agent?

Attempting to start Sensor Agent..
Starting SnortCenter Sensor Agent server in /opt/snortagent/sensor
Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in, lenth is 0 should be 4 at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i396-linux-thread-multi/Socket.pm line 373
ERROR: Failed to start Sensor Agent!


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Install of 8.0 in freezing at different points

[David Boyes]

I have the 3 CD image install disk for Redhat 8.0. I believe called ISO.

All three check out on the test before install.

I am installing on a 3.2gb drive that is formatted FAT32.

The install process seems to be going flawlessly but for some reason the
install stops and I have to turn the machine off and start the whole process
again.

I have tried this three times and each times it freezes at a different
point.  Once I even got close to the end.

I am installing the personal version as it recommends.

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RedHat 9

[David Yates]

Doesa anyone know if RedHat 9 breaks all of my old Loki games, unreal tournament/2003, 
and quake3?
 



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Source rpms and kernel compiling

[David . Grudek]

I have been trying to learn more about how to customize an rpm package with features they did not compile with or to recompile a kernel.  I went to linuxhomenetworking.com, linuxnewbie.org, and linuxnovice.org looking for help.  I have read the man pages and I am still confused.  I am trying to compile samba with acl support or for future just compile any package with an additional feature or to compile kernel 2.5.70.  I have tried for about two and a half months and I am getting frustrated.  I thought I was having a dependancy problem so I installed the complete installation of redhat 9, then I installed apt-get from freshrpms.net and did a apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade and it updated every package that was available for updating.  When I was trying to compile a kernel from kernel.org I did these steps with no luck.  I downloaded the kernel source into /usr/src and I extracted it.  I then r!
an make mrproper and ran successfully.  Then I ran an make xconfig and chose all the things I wanted as well as those I wanted to remove.  I chose to exit and save.  I then ran make dep and it said it was unneccessary.  I did this because all the guides that I have said to do that.  I did a make clean even though I never recompiled a kernel because the manual said it wont hurt to do it anyway.  I then ran a make bzImage.  It always runs successfully.  Then I ran a make modules and this is where it always fails.  No matter what I chose while in the make xconfig it does not make a difference a driver of some sort fails the make modules.  I went threw and took out everything I did not need, experimental, or even new.  I did them all in different combinations and even just the default kernel straight  and it does not seem to matter.  It always fails.  Any help would be appreciated.

Compiling kernels

[David . Grudek]

I have been trying to learn more about how to customize an rpm package 
with features they did not compile with or to recompile a kernel.  I went 
to linuxhomenetworking.com, linuxnewbie.org, and linuxnovice.org looking 
for help.  I have read the man pages and I am still confused.  I am trying 
to compile samba with acl support or for future just compile any package 
with an additional feature or to compile kernel 2.5.70.  I have tried for 
about two and a half months and I am getting frustrated.  I thought I was 
having a dependancy problem so I installed the complete installation of 
redhat 9, then I installed apt-get from freshrpms.net and did a apt-get 
update and then apt-get upgrade and it updated every package that was 
available for updating.  When I was trying to compile a kernel from 
kernel.org I did these steps with no luck.  I downloaded the kernel source 
into /usr/src and I extracted it.  I then ran make mrproper and ran 
successfully.  Then I ran an make xconfig and chose all the things I 
wanted as well as those I wanted to remove.  I chose to exit and save.  I 
then ran make dep and it said it was unneccessary.  I did this because all 
the guides that I have said to do that.  I did a make clean even though I 
never recompiled a kernel because the manual said it wont hurt to do it 
anyway.  I then ran a make bzImage.  It always runs successfully.  Then I 
ran a make modules and this is where it always fails.  No matter what I 
chose while in the make xconfig it does not make a difference a driver of 
some sort fails the make modules.  I went threw and took out everything I 
did not need, experimental, or even new.  I did them all in different 
combinations and even just the default kernel straight  and it does not 
seem to matter.  It always fails.  Any help would be 
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Re: Compiling kernels

[David . Grudek]

If the kernel instructions are different.  Do you know where to find the
new instructions because I searched all over kernel.org and google.com for
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Problem on aic7899 with smp kernel

[David Chow]

Dear all,

My machine consistently locks up after the system has powered up for 
around 20minutes. Each time it locks up the console dumps the following 
messages.  I've read some posting in this lists and saying it is a 
hardware problem. However, the problem only exists when booting smp 
kernel. To me, it seems it is a problem come from a badly written driver 
rather than hardware. My kernel is 2.4.20-18smp and is running on a Tyan 
mother board, dual athlon with onbaord aic7899 , running md with RAID-1 
mirroring, Seagate Cheetah 36GB SCSI . The system can only survive with 
non-smp kernels. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

regards,
David Chow
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: scsi0:0:0:0: Attempting to queue an 
ABORT message
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: scsi0: Dumping Card State while idle, 
at SEQADDR 0x8
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: ACCUM = 0x0, SINDEX = 0x1f, DINDEX = 
0xe4, ARG_2 = 0x0
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: HCNT = 0x0 SCBPTR = 0xe
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel:  DFCNTRL = 0x0, DFSTATUS = 0x89
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: LASTPHASE = 0x1, SCSISIGI = 0x0, 
SXFRCTL0 = 0x80
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: SSTAT0 = 0x0, SSTAT1 = 0x8
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: SCSIPHASE = 0x0
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: STACK == 0x3, 0x108, 0x160, 0x0
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: SCB count = 254
Jul 21 16:14:36 webserver kernel: Kernel NEXTQSCB = 63
Jul 21 16:20:32 webserver kernel: Card NEXTQSCB = 63
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel:  144 145 146 147 140 141 142 143 136 
137 138 139 132 133 134 135 128 19 12 13 14 15 8 9 10 11 4 5 6 1 3 2 7 0
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: DevQ(0:0:0): 0 waiting
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: DevQ(0:2:0): 0 waiting
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: scsi0:0:0:0: Cmd aborted from QINFIFO
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: aic7xxx_abort returns 0x2002
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: scsi0:0:0:0: Attempting to queue an 
ABORT message
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: scsi0: Dumping Card State in 
Message-out phase, at SEQADDR 0x168
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: ACCUM = 0xa0, SINDEX = 0x61, DINDEX = 
0xe4, ARG_2 = 0x1c
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: HCNT = 0x0 SCBPTR = 0x6
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0xa
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel:  DFCNTRL = 0x0, DFSTATUS = 0x89
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: LASTPHASE = 0xa0, SCSISIGI = 0xa4, 
SXFRCTL0 = 0x88
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: SSTAT0 = 0x0, SSTAT1 = 0x0
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: SCSIPHASE = 0x0
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: STACK == 0x175, 0xe7, 0xe7, 0xe7
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: SCB count = 254
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Kernel NEXTQSCB = 56
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Card NEXTQSCB = 23
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: QINFIFO entries: 23
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Waiting Queue entries:
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 24:44 9:16
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: QOUTFIFO entries:
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 13 28 20 10 
22 26 18 30 7 11 23 2 8 17 4 3 16 29 25 1 14 5 12 27 21 15 19 0 31
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Sequencer SCB Info: 0(c 0x60, s 0x27, 
l 0, t 0xff) 1(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 2(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 
3(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 4(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 5(c 0x60, s 
0x27, l 0, t 0xff) 6(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0x73) 7(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 
0xff) 8(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 9(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0x10) 10(c 
0x0, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 11(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 12(c 0x60, s 
0x27, l 0, t 0xff) 13(c 0x0, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 14(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, 
t 0xff) 15(c 0x60, s 0x27, l 0, t 0xff) 16(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 
17(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 18(c 0x0, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 19(c 0x60, 
s 0x27, l 0, t 0xff) 20(c 0x0, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 21(c 0x60, s 0x27, l 
0, t 0xff) 22(c 0x0, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 23(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 
24(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0x2c) 25(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 26(c 0x0, 
s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 27(c 0x60, s 0x27, l 0, t 0xff) 28(c 0x0, s 0x7, l 
0, t 0xff) 29(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 30(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0, t 0xff) 
31(c 0x60, s 0x27, l 0,
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel:  0xff)
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Pending list: 51(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0), 
44(c 0x60, s 0x7, l 0), 78(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0), 16(c 0x60, s 0x7, l 0), 
130(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0), 23(c 0x74, s 0x7, l 0), 115(c 0x64, s 0x7, l 0)
Jul 21 16:20:33 webserver kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 18 106 58 36 121 
41 126 39 26 92 66 89 95 191 60 116 34 85 113 83 27 24 109 67 100 80 49 
63 31 20 52 94 77 105 253 108 48 117 57 59 17 110 55 71 123 91 30 81 82 
88 122 75 28 93 107 90 96 251 38 40 54 114 61 111 42 70 125 102 37 25 74 
68 21 73 79 131 104 43 101 33 72 249 127 46 84 87 50 62 120 29 65 35 97 
119 22 47 64 76 103 45 112 86 99 195 32 98 124 250 248 118 69 53 190 189 
188 252 244 245 246 247 240 241 242 243 236 237 238 239 232 233 23

ljet4 printing problem

[David Chow]

Dear all,

On Redhat 8, I am using an Epson EPL-5700 printer. I am having problem 
printing postscript and pdf documents (ok with openoffice). I am using 
the ghostscript together with the ljet4 driver and lpd. The output page 
has the top part chop off. Looks like we have a negative top margin. 
This only happens for ps and pdf files and is ok for openoffice. Has 
anyone has this experiecne? Also, this happens after some up2date 
packages installed but I am sure this doesn't happen with the stock 
packages. What's the difference of printing with open office and using 
lpr -Pmypriner  that causes the trouble, so that I can trace more 
deep. Thanks.

regards,
David Chow
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David Grudek/COR/AXE is out of the office.

[David . Grudek]

I will be out of the office starting  08/15/2003 and will not return until
10/02/2003.

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Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode?

[David . Menges]

Sorry if this has been discussed, I just joined this list.

We have a brand new rack-mount Dell PE 2650 on which we loaded Red Hat 8.0.
Problem is it crashes within 30 minutes when in multi-processor mode (no
errors anywhere, just freezes).  Anyone experiencing this?  

It came with Red Hat 7.2 or 7.3 installed, but we didn't run it that way
long enough to know if that was stable.  It does not crash in
single-processor mode.

We've updated the Dell's firmware, called Dell, and done general research,
but are striking out.  We were getting "Missing CPU 1", "Missing CPU 2", and
"Volt Core CPU" (or something like that) errors on the Dell's LCD until we
updated the firmware and pulled the power for 2 minutes.  It DOES have 2
processors, though we haven't reseated them yet.

Other details:  it has 2G RAM, 2 disks mirrored and 3 disks RAIDed, and so
on...

RE: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode ?

[David . Menges]

I don't know what tg3 is, but no, the machine is idling.  It hangs with no
one logged in, no one at the console, no one accessing it via the net (it
hasn't been built as a web server yet).  It has 2 ethernet ports, only one
in use so far, at 100 Mbps full duplex.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Nottingham [mailto:notting@;redhat.com] 
Sent: October 15, 2002 15:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> We have a brand new rack-mount Dell PE 2650 on which we loaded Red Hat
8.0.
> Problem is it crashes within 30 minutes when in multi-processor mode (no
> errors anywhere, just freezes).  Anyone experiencing this?  

Are you *heavily* using the onboard tg3 ethernet?

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RE: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode ?

[David . Menges]

No, we didn't load any windowing packages.  Thanks, though.  I wonder why
you recompiled your kernel.

We swapped the 2 CPUs, hoping the problem would migrate to the first
processor, but it still hangs in multi-processor mode (and doesn't in
single-processor mode), so we'll be calling Red Hat tech support in the
morning.  I'll relay any news.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Stack [mailto:redhat-8.0@;iamamish.com] 
Sent: October 15, 2002 18:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode?


Are you by any chance running X w/ screensavers enabled? I had a problem w/
my 8.0 installation crashing hard - total freeze, nothing in the logs (that
I saw, anyway), etc. The machine was largely idle also, and it was a Dell
(albeit a desktop model), though I'm sure some of the hardware is the same.
Anyhoo, the crash only happened while the screensaver was running.

For me, the problem went away once I recompiled my kernel, though to tell
you the truth, I don't know the difference(s) between the stock 8.0 kernel
and the one that I built.

HTH

Mike


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode?


> I don't know what tg3 is, but no, the machine is idling.  It hangs with no
> one logged in, no one at the console, no one accessing it via the net (it
> hasn't been built as a web server yet).  It has 2 ethernet ports, only one
> in use so far, at 100 Mbps full duplex.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Nottingham [mailto:notting@;redhat.com]
> Sent: October 15, 2002 15:11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor
mode?
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> > We have a brand new rack-mount Dell PE 2650 on which we loaded Red Hat
> 8.0.
> > Problem is it crashes within 30 minutes when in multi-processor mode (no
> > errors anywhere, just freezes).  Anyone experiencing this?
>
> Are you *heavily* using the onboard tg3 ethernet?
>
> Bill
>
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[David Krider]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 10:21, dTd wrote:
> I saw a package on freshmeat designed to do just this, I have forgotten it's
> name, but a quick search for "demand dial" should get you some results. As a
> side note, you can set an idle option to pppd that will drop the connection
> after a certain amount of time. Not ver helpfull but hey it's a start.  :)

I can't believe that no one has nailed this down yet. It's very simple
to do, and everything you need is already in the distribution. If you
already have your main box connecting with pppd, there's just two things
left to do on the pppd side.

You must properly configure both network sides of your Linux box, you
must ENABLE IP FORWARDING (this one's easy to overlook), and you must -
as you said - enable masquerading through iptables.

(In 7.3, there was a GUI to configure everything you want. It was called
rp3-config. I don't know if it's there in RH 8 as I have regressed to
7.3 again because I have issues with the font situation. I'm sure
there's an equivalent, though it will probably be called
`redhat-config-something'.)

Anyway, all it did was configure `ifcfg-pppX' scripts in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. The options you need are "DEMAND=yes"
and "IDLETIMEOUT=XXX".


Regards,
dk

Re: RHL8.0 and Windows 2000 server edition

[David Sudjiman]

Define connecting...

I can see that this question should be regarded to SAMBA package, please refer 
to www.samba.org for detail information. You can use your linux box as domain 
client from w2k server

thx

On Monday 21 October 2002 11:46 am, Marcio Alejandro Regalado M. wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> Can anybody give me instructions on conecting my linux box to a windows
> 2000 server edition machine??
>
> Red Hat Newbie
>
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[David Krider]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 23:12, dTd wrote:

> sure but that's not what he asked for. He wants to be able to control his ppp
> connection from a lan box with a graphical app. Like a remote kppp, so he can
> bring the connection up and down.
> 

Well then his first email was ambiguous. I see that he has responded to
another part of this thread saying that he indeed wanted manual control
of the connection. If you make the modifications I talked about, you
don't NEED to control it; it will all be automatic.

The only problem with it being completely automatic is that he's running
XP behind it. I just saw a web page last week that talked about 18
different ways that XP "phone's home" to Microsoft. (I can't find the
link again though; hints are certainly welcome.) After reading that,
it's my understanding that some features of XP won't work unless the
connection is open. So, with XP, the connection is going to basically
need to be open all the time when he's doing something anyway.

I'm spinning off topic,
dk

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enterprise 2.4.18-17.7.xsmp #1 SMP Tue Oct 8 11:00:33 EDT 2002
  6:23am  up 1 day,  4:35,  0 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.00
Linux: Will you use the power for good... or for AWESOME?

RE: Psyche hangs with rack-mount Dell 2650 in multiprocessor mode ?

[David . Menges]

Here's the final word on this problem I brought up.  I would like to know if
future versions of RH Linux will support APIC, but Red Hat's forums are down
and I don't remember if I asked them during phone calls.

Dell Support says:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:servers@;dell.com
 ] 
Sent: October 21, 2002 11:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AT20021018_007334 RE:
#25##5EH##DellServ#:00026610629 - BIOS #APTX#

...

At present, Red Hat Linux 8.0 has not been validated on any of
our servers; however, it is highly likely that it will be in
the coming months.  

The 2650 does, in fact, support APIC at the hardware level. However,
some OS's, including Red Hat can experience issues with APIC
configuration, and it is therefore recommended to disable APIC
support inside the OS.

mysql install error

[David Sudjiman]

I just installed mysql-3.23.5-23.i386.rpm by issuing this

#rpm -ivh mysql-3.23.5-23.i386.rpm

and i got this

warning: /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/mysql-3.23.5-23.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature
: NOKEY, key ID db42a60e

what's wrong?

thx

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canyon somewhere.  One of the three men says, "I've got an idea.  We can
call for help in this canyon and the echo will carry our voices to the
end of the canyon.  Someone's bound to hear us by then!"
So he leans over the basket and screams out, "Heoo!  Where
are we?"  (They hear the echo several times).
Fifteen minutes later, they hear this echoing voice: "Heoo!
You're lost!"
The shouter comments, "That must have been a mathematician."
Puzzled, his friend asks, "Why do you say that?"
"For three reasons.  First, he took a long time to answer, second,
he was absolutely correct, and, third, his answer was absolutely useless."

kernel-header.rpm where?

[David Sudjiman]

where can I found kernel-header.rpm in rh80 cd?

thx
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Re: mysql install error

[David Sudjiman]

K

I imported the RPM_GPG-KEY, done
Accidentally I ran rpm -qa | gpg ;-(
I import again.. now it's hang ;-(


what's wrong?

thx

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 09:42 am, Michael Fratoni wrote:
> You haven't imported Red Hat's gpg key. man rpm for details, but
> 'rpm --import /path/to/cdrom/RPM-GPG-KEY' should do the trick.
>
> 'rpm -qa gpg-pubkey*' will display all imported keys.
>
> To view a specific imported key (This would display Red Hat's key),
> 'rpm -qi gpg-pubkey-db42a60e'
>
> The package installed, that message is just a warning that it couldn't
> verify the signature.

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Re: kernel-header.rpm where?

[David Sudjiman]

Sorry, but I still don't understand

In redhat support there are several kernel rpm package such as kernel 
kernel-ibcs, kernel pcmcia, kerne-source and kernel-headers... where can I 
find kernel-headers? or what is glibc-kernheaders?

thx

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 10:21 am, Mike Chambers wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Sudjiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:00 PM
> Subject: kernel-header.rpm where?
>
> > where can I found kernel-header.rpm in rh80 cd?
>
> You can't find it, doesn't exist.
>
> [reddawg@homer reddawg]$ rpm -qa | grep header
> glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.20
>
> Try glibc-kernheaders :)
>
> Mike

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sendmail in bastion host

[David Sudjiman]

I'm trying to replace my proxy to linux firewall with sendmail as a forwarder. 

I noticed that sendmail takes longer to receive email from outside rather than 
msproxy.. haw can i do the trick?

thx
-- 
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Re: sendmail in bastion host

[David Sudjiman]

Yup.. the same dns I use for proxy.. and I use ptr record as well

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 11:38 am, Craig White wrote:
> -
> start by looking at dns on that machine...is the first dns server listed
> in /etc/resolv.conf a good one?
>
>
> Craig

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Re: sendmail in bastion host

[David Sudjiman]

mmm This is my first time to configure sendmail.. what do you mean bay caching 
nameserver /etc/hosts?

thx

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 02:57 pm, Paul Gear wrote:
>
> Try configuring a local caching nameserver.
>
> Paul

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Serial on GRUB

[David Sudjiman]

Dear All,

I just move to GRUB and have a bit dificulties.

I used to use append="console=ttyS0,9600" for my lilo for my serial.. how can 
I use it on GRUB?

thx
.dave

-- 
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-- Ben Franklin

Re: Serial on GRUB

[David Sudjiman]

Yeeehaaa, it works... Thx Jakub!

Hey, where can I find a good GRUB doc, can't find it on 
www.gnu.org/manual/grub/html_mono/grub.html

thx again
.dave

On Wednesday 30 October 2002 04:41 pm, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 04:31:05PM +0700, David Sudjiman wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I just move to GRUB and have a bit dificulties.
> >
> > I used to use append="console=ttyS0,9600" for my lilo for my serial.. how
> > can I use it on GRUB?
>
> title foobar
>   root (hd0,0)
>   kernel /boot/vmlinuz-someversion ro root=LABEL=/ console=ttyS0,9600
> ?
>
>
>   Jakub

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Playing CD-audio

[David Sudjiman]

I just installed my rh80 for desktop login as user try to play my 
CD-Audio... it asked something like 1. kernel might not support for cd 2. bla 
bla bla any hints?

thx
.dave
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Re: Redhat 8 install problem

[David Willson]

That seems to be the case, but the fact is that Lokkit doesn't call your
configuration onto the form.  Yes, it's stupid, but no, it's not
ignoring you entirely.  And BTW, you need to run 
"/etc/init.d/iptables restart" or "service iptables restart"
to make your Lokkit changes take effect.

On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:16, Sittampalam Nagu wrote:
> Hello
> 
>  
> 
> I have installed red hat v8 on a Compaq Proliant ML350. What I am finding is
> the security level is set to high even if I pick no firewall. If I run the
> tool to change the security level and it accepts the change but does not
> change it
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  (:=)Think Globally  Act Locally(=:)
> 
>  
> 
>  (-: Nagu:- )
>  Southampton City Council - CPS
>  Tel :- 02380-833012 Mobile :- 07770-731534
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RE: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra

[David Willson]

I've had the dubious pleasure of doing this at least six times now.
Here are "David Willson's Instructions for the Ridiculously Impatient".
Yes, you actually DO have to do all this.

- Install the kernel-source, if you haven't already.
  'rpm -Uvh /somewhere/RedHat/rpms/kernel-source-something.rpm'
- Do a complete up2date, if you haven't already.
  'up2date --update --force'
- Download the kernel driver src.rpm and the GLX driver src.rpm from
nVidia's website.
- Build the binary version of each file with something like
  'rpmbuild --rebuild ~/blah.src.rpm'
  Take note of the location of the binaries as you build them!  It's
given in the output.
- Install the binary rpms.  'rpm -Uvh kernel.rpm'  'rpm -Uvh glx.rpm'
- Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config to make three changes:
  - In the 'Section "Module"' section, pound (#) out 'Load "dri"' and
'Load "GLcore"'.
  - In the same section, add 'Load "glx"', if it's not already there.
  - In the 'Section "Device"' section, change the name of driver
from "nv" or "VESA" or whatever to "nvidia"

David Willson
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On Behalf Of Mr. Adam ALLEN
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and TNT2 Ultra


On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 18:59, Sylvain Jodoin wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm new to Linux and just installed RH 8.0 Personal Desktop to learn 
> and play with it. Everything seems to work correctly besides graphics.

> In fact, I just can't enable 3D hardware acceleration (the option is 
> shaded so I can not enable it) with the result that graphical 
> intensive apps are quite slow.
>  
> I have a P-III 450 Mhz PC with a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra/32MB-based 
> graphic board.

That sounds familiar so that could be the same card that I have 

> Any hints, resources, pointers for newbie on how to resolve this would

> be highly appreciated.

If you haven't downloaded the drivers from nVidia's site, then that's
the first job. There's two files, a GLX file and a Kernel file. 
nVidia pre-compile the drivers, so you either need to match the kernel
you are running (probably 2.4.18), or you can download 'generic' files
which you can rebuild - each time you upgrade the kernel you will need
to reinstall the drivers for the graphic card. My personal choice would
be the GLX SOURCE RPM and KERNEL SOURCE RPM. (I'd keep these on the
machine in a handy location for future use).

Follow the instructions, 
rpmbuild --rebuild 
the docs will say rpm --rebuild

Then you may need to change /etc/X11/XF86Config, as directed in the
readme file from nVidia's page.


Hopefully this points you in the right direction.

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RE: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?

[David Willson]

You're going to need to install you some Java, doc.  Start here
http://java.sun.com/linux/

David Willson
MCT, MCSE, Network+, A+, Linux Enthusiast
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Subject: Blue Puzzle Piece in Mozilla?


In RedHat 8 I visit this site and request the loop and get a blue puzzle
piece and no looping video.  Suggested solution, please?
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml

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RE: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?

[David Willson]

How to install an RPM for the ridiculously im- are we done yet?

Type this:
rpm -Uvh package-name.rpm

David Willson
MCT, MCSE, Network+, A+, Linux Enthusiast
http://TheGeek.NU 


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Subject: Re: How to Play These Streaming Online Radio Feeds?


I chose the Linux i386 rpm version rather than the old RH6.2 
version, not sure if that was the best choice.

I did the download and followed the instructions:

as root ...

mv rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm

then ...

rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm

got instructions about rpm 

then ...

rpm rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm --force

got error message "only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may
be forced"

Help, please?

Thanks!  doc 

> If you haven't installed realplayer, then download it from: 
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RE: bash and perl output of 'hello' with no \n doesn't work

[David Willson]

quitcherbitchen.  You got caught blaming the distro for something you
f*d up.

David Willson
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Not a bug?  Hmm, I guess a car manufacturer could just switch the brake
and gas pedal around.  The car would still work, but it would just
behave a bit differently for those who didn't know about the change.  

Yeah, we know what's going on now with the prompt, but it doesn't mean
it's not screwed up.  Anyhow if you want to take the attitude that
Psyche is great and the users need to read more manuals before
attempting to use it then fine.

Mike Harris wrote:

Why?  You're doing something that is inherently broken.  If you 
slow everything down so that it is visible, you will see "hello" 
displayed, then see the program return to bash, which displays 
the prompt.  The prompt overwrites the line because there was no 
trailing newline.

Go ahead and miss Psyche.  Spend the time reading programming 
manuals to learn how stuff works instead.
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RE: Good RedHat 8.0 Books

[David Willson]

Strategy: Buying books on 8.0 will cost you a mint, buy books on 7.2 or
7.3 and you'll learn what you want to learn for less money.

That being said, I have used "The Complete Reference..." from Osborne,
the "Unleashed" title, and the aforementioned online docs.  For
reference, they're OK, but as linear-learning tools, they suck.  If
you're still in 'linear' mode, but it sound's like you're not, try
www.course.com.  Good stuph there.

David Willson
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On Monday 18 November 2002 01:05 am, Ilona wrote:
> I'm looking into getting some good books on 8.0.  Does anybody have 
> any suggestions?  I'm looking for books that tell me general usage 
> stuff i'm running 8.0 on a laptop and this is my first time w/ linux 
> GUI, had a little command line before this in school (only one 
> semester).  I still have my textbooks from that class though.  
> (O'Reilly's Linux in a nutshell  and a Practical Guide to Linux by 
> Mark Sobell. Thanx in advance

I found the docs from https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/  very 
helpful, and they may already be on your RH cd's.  If not, pull down the
pdf 
files and there you go.  I printed them off and put them in 3-ring
binders 
(cheaper than buying books).


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Demand-dial Router?

[David Willson]

I am trying to turn a Red Hat Linux 8.0 box into a demand-dial router
(+NAT).  I have run into several holes in my knowledge:

How do I make 'ppp1' the default route before it's even up, and/or how
do I make it demand-dial?
How do I insure that 
 - the nat module is inserted
 - the 'MASQUERADE' rule is inserted
 - and forwarding is turned on
at boot time without intervention?

David Willson
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Re: Nvidia drivers and the new kernel.

[David Scriven]

> I had tryed that before but thinking i missed 
>something i tryed again.  Her 
>was the out put of the rebuild... the kernel is
>already installed or 
>something like that.  Same for the GLX driver. 
I >can see nothing wrong 
>with the XF86Config file however the error log
>file reports (NI) not 
>implemented and failed to initialize the
NVdriver >kernel module 
>aborting   Screens founf but none have a usable
>configuration.

Did you reboot into the new kernel BEFORE you
ran rpmbuild --rebuild? It won't work
unless you do that.

I generally do the following to upgrade:
1. get new kernel & source
2. rpm -e NVIDIA_GLX_ver
3. rpm -e NVIDIA_kernel_ver
4. Edit /etc/inittab so that default runlevel is
3
5. reboot into text logon.
6. rpmbuild --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel_ver.src.rpm
7. rpm -ivh NVIDIA_kernel_ver.i386.rpm
   (usually placed in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386)
8. rpm -ivh NVIDIA_GLX_ver.i386.rpm
9. startx
   Everything should work!!
10. edit /etc/inittab so default runlevel is 5

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NE2000 Plus ISA Ethernet Card

[David Mascot]

Hi,
 
I am a newbie at Linux.  I just installed 
Redhat 8 onto an old Dell Deminsion with a 233 Pentium CPU, with 64 meg of 
ram.
 
I haven't hade any luck in getting the Ethernet 
Card recognized.  
 
The card is an ISA NE2000 Plus
The MAC address is: 00-00-1B-48-15-D4
The IRQ is 3
The I/O is 340h
 
Do I need a driver or configuration parameter to 
get it working?
 
Thanks,
David

mutt newbie

[David Sudjiman]

Guys,

I just tried my mutt yesterday. I know I should get into the .muttrc
file to get it working.

Ok I can get my email, but I can't send it back.. I was trying to find
the smtp server parameter but there wasn't any.. or I should do in other
way?

Oya, how can I use email filtering and put it on certain folders like I
was using kmail

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Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

I recently upgraded from RH 7.3 to 8.0 and at first I loved it, the I
realized that it kind of sucked.

Let me explain and I will get to my suggestions about the way RHs Next
major released should be.

1st. Lack of REAL Software (OpenLDAP)
2nd. Lack of Wireless LAN Drivers (PRISM2)

Ok now I know everyone is gonna jump on this and say that OpenLDAP (I
don't think its GPL) and PRISM2 Drivers are not GPL.

Well that is where my suggestion comes in, in 7.3 Staroffice a NON-GPL
software came w/ the dist. on a seperate CD.

Does anyone support the IDEA of dist. NON-GPL software on a seperate CD???
I think it would make alot of people much happier if they didn't have to
go reading through mailing lists to find out how to get a Netgear wireless
NIC
to work under 8.0.  Along w/ that is there is a serious need for a
Directory Service so it is just a thought.

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Re: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

Ok, maybe OpenLDAP does come w/ it. My mistake - but when you click
to do a FULL INSTALL it doesn't.

And great RH doesn't support Binary Modules - you can get a source version
compile it on your own and then send it out as a binary.

Or maybe I am getting it wrong here, lemme look at it the other way.
You don't want to support the project of a module?
If so then why dist software at all?

It just a piece of software that POSSIBLE could be borken when you ship it
but that should be no concern of yours considering XMMS & Postgres :)

Just ship the damn module so RH 8.1 or whatever can support about 75% of
the wireless NICS on the market.

This discussion reminds me of the pre Donald Becker days and dealing w/
regular NIC cards.


> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote:
>
>>I recently upgraded from RH 7.3 to 8.0 and at first I loved it, the I
>> realized that it kind of sucked.
>>
>>Let me explain and I will get to my suggestions about the way RHs Next
>> major released should be.
>>
>>1st. Lack of REAL Software (OpenLDAP)
>
> Perhaps you did not get a copy of the official Red Hat Linux 8.0
> then.  Red Hat Linux 8.0 does come with openldap.
>
> [root@devel /]# cat /etc/redhat-release ; rpm -q openldap
> Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche)
> openldap-2.0.25-1
>
>
>>2nd. Lack of Wireless LAN Drivers (PRISM2)
>>
>>Ok now I know everyone is gonna jump on this and say that OpenLDAP (I
>> don't think its GPL) and PRISM2 Drivers are not GPL.
>
> [root@devel /]# rpm -qi openldap | grep License
> Size: 1215211  License: OpenLDAP
>
>
>>Well that is where my suggestion comes in, in 7.3 Staroffice a
>>NON-GPL software came w/ the dist. on a seperate CD.
>
> The distribution itself is comprised of open source CD images.
> The boxed products come with some extra CDs which are NOT part of  Red
> Hat Linux, but which are bundled in with the OS inside the
> box.  StarOffice being one of those items in the past.
>
>>Does anyone support the IDEA of dist. NON-GPL software on a
>>seperate CD???
>
> The boxed set already comes with exactly that.
>
>>I think it would make alot of people much happier if they didn't
>>have to go reading through mailing lists to find out how to get
>>a Netgear wireless NIC to work under 8.0.
>
> Red Hat does not support binary kernel modules.
>
>>Along w/ that is there is a serious need for a Directory Service
>>so it is just a thought.
>
> Such as the openldap directory service that is included with Red
> Hat Linux 8.0 perhaps?
>
>
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Re: Netgear PCMCIA Card MA401

[David Durst]

Yeah, it don't work w/ out the prism2 drivers that RH didn't dist.

Not the thread of Dist. Suggestions.

go to
linux-wlan or something like that
read the FAQ
they have a link to the RPMS for the prism2 drivers

Good luck
> Hi Everyone.
> I would create a wireless lan at home and have seen this card:
> Netgear PCMCIA Card MA401
> Someone has just installed this card? Are there problems with that card?
> Sorry for my bad english.
>
> Thank you for help
>
> ciao dolle
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Re: A thought about psyche

[David Durst]

3 RH training points you should have to worry about,

1. E-Mail Client (Evolution) its not that bad really I have done it with
over a 100 users already

2. Web Browser (Netscape 7 or Mozilla 1.0) this is the BIGGEST issue you
will encounter, you will probably want Net. 7 since it comes default w/
Flash and Java plugings (It is a pain to install these by hand on every
desktop) and your users will bitch and mon for a while, but HONESTLY ITS A
DAMNED WEB BROWSER - WHAT TRAINING SHOULD THERE BE.

3. Terminal, if you are running a terminal application such as MAS90 -
gnome-terminal will be your biggest issue, it has NO PRINT SCREEN
functionaility as yet.  It also doesn't support switching terminal types,
sooon it will do both actually about 3 months and I am hopping to get
the upgrades stuck in w/ 8.1 or whatever.

If you have any question about converting I can give you some insight
into what I have encountered w/ my users.

Thanks,
Dave Durst

> It is more than the "masses." We have over 850 users on-line here in our
> company and the re-training costs shifting to a linux desktop are very
> large. In this way,  RedHat *is* moving in the right direction by trying
> to give us a desktop which  will require minimal re-training for
> companies like ours. Redhat 8.0 is a glimmer  (maybe more than a
> glimmer) of what a "Windows" killer might be, but it isn't there,  yet.
>
> We have a business to run, and we want our technology to support the
> operation of the business, do it securely, and to be as *invisible* as
> possible. Currently, like  it or not, Windows is still a good choice,
> but it is getting too expensive and too  resource hungry especially in
> the time it takes to manage the desktops. But if RedHat continues to
> provide focus and resources to the desktop Windows is in big trouble
> over the long run.
>
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> On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 17:57, Keith Winston wrote:
>
> [...edited for brevity...]
>
> Linux is better, but the masses want ease of use, and they want their
> proprietary formats and their DVDs.  Red Hat Linux in its current form
> is not for them.
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RE: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

Great, have the discuessed including JAVA & TOMCAT yet also??

> I have heard rumors that Novell's eDirectory (used to be NDS) will be
> included in the next RH distro. This is a full blown directory solution
> that runs natively on Linux, Windows, Solaris, AIX and of course
> NetWare. Note: No NetWare servers are needed to run eDirectory. Check it
> out at
> http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/. If you want to know more,
> let me know.
>
> Seth Forgosh
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Winston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Dist. Suggestions
>
>
> On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 05:14, David Durst wrote:
>> Does anyone support the IDEA of dist. NON-GPL software on a seperate
>> CD??? I think it would make alot of people much happier if they didn't
>>  have to go reading through mailing lists to find out how to get a
>> Netgear wireless NIC to work under 8.0.  Along w/ that is there is a
>> serious need for a Directory Service so it is just a thought.
>
> Debian has a whole tree of what they call non-free software that is not
> part of the official disto, but provided for people who want it.  SuSE
> has an entire section of software in their "commercial" series that
> comes with their distro and can be installed with YaST2 like any GPL
> program.  Then, there are distos that make no distinction between
> commercial and GPL software like Lycoris and Lindows.
>
> I've used every major distro out there and I think you'll find things to
> like and dislike about every one.  Since I don't use Windows at all, I
> tend to spend a lot of time tweaking my system to be exactly what I
> want.  With some distros, the amount of work I need to do is higher than
> with others.
>
> Red Hat does ship with a directory service, the old reliable NIS.  While
> OpenLDAP will work fine for login authentication, I don't think it
> supports NFS netgroups yet and probably some other things you might
> want.  On the other hand, NIS is not considered very secure and is
> showing some age.  If you want a modern directory, Novell's NDS is
> supposed to run natively on Linux now but I've never tried it, and of
> course, it is not free in any sense.
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

Hey thats a IDEA, stick NDS on a CD and ship it.

Its about time Novell got into the game.

> On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 05:14, David Durst wrote:
>> Does anyone support the IDEA of dist. NON-GPL software on a seperate
>> CD??? I think it would make alot of people much happier if they didn't
>> have to go reading through mailing lists to find out how to get a
>> Netgear wireless NIC
>> to work under 8.0.  Along w/ that is there is a serious need for a
>> Directory Service so it is just a thought.
>
> Debian has a whole tree of what they call non-free software that is not
> part of the official disto, but provided for people who want it.  SuSE
> has an entire section of software in their "commercial" series that
> comes with their distro and can be installed with YaST2 like any GPL
> program.  Then, there are distos that make no distinction between
> commercial and GPL software like Lycoris and Lindows.
>
> I've used every major distro out there and I think you'll find things to
> like and dislike about every one.  Since I don't use Windows at all, I
> tend to spend a lot of time tweaking my system to be exactly what I
> want.  With some distros, the amount of work I need to do is higher than
> with others.
>
> Red Hat does ship with a directory service, the old reliable NIS.  While
> OpenLDAP will work fine for login authentication, I don't think it
> supports NFS netgroups yet and probably some other things you might
> want.  On the other hand, NIS is not considered very secure and is
> showing some age.  If you want a modern directory, Novell's NDS is
> supposed to run natively on Linux now but I've never tried it, and of
> course, it is not free in any sense.
>
> Best Regards,
> Keith
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Re: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

I am not suggesting that it is on CD 4 of 4, I am just suggesting to fill
out the distribution (Tomcat I believe is Open Source) its just a
licensing issue between GPL OSS and NON-GPL OSS.

I would like to see a OPTIONAL software CD, and it doesn't make you
solaris or windows by including this software because YOU ARE NOT FORCING
someone to install it.

It is just nice that when I setup a system I don't have to go hunting around
the NET to go and get versions of software and install them.

I also feel that if linux is going to be widely adopted you HAVE to
including things like JAVA and or NDS (Directory Service OTHER THAN NIS)

It just seems lame that the softwares that are WIDELY used (TOMCAT & JAVA)
under linux are not available right out of the box.

P.S. Yeah yeah I know JAVA is no longer availble under a Winblows env.
anymore eithier but that is another issue.
> On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:47, Forgosh, Seth wrote:
>> I have heard rumors that Novell's eDirectory (used to be NDS) will be
>> included in the next RH distro. This is a full blown directory
>> solution that runs natively on Linux, Windows, Solaris, AIX and of
>> course NetWare. Note: No NetWare servers are needed to run eDirectory.
>> Check it out at http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/. If you
>> want to know more, let me know.
>
> Is NDS opensource?  Does it adhere to the GPL?  If not one or the other,
> then  it most likely won't be included in the main distro.
>
> The same for TOMCAT or JAVA as another person asked about.
>
> Once you start including these non open, non free (as in speech) stuff,
> you  suddenly find yourself running Solaris or Windows, or some other
> propriatary  OS, and That Aint Good(tm).
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Re: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

I was just thinking, Apache I believe is under the same license as Tomcat.
So why isn't tomcat available and just put the JDK and JRE on a seperate CD?
> Tomcat is open source. It is the Jakarta project of Apache.
>
> Sun's JVM is not open source as far as I know, though it is free to
> download. IBM's JVM is not open source, either.
>
> NetBeans is an open source development environment for Java; but you
> still need a JVM.
>
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> On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:47, Forgosh, Seth wrote:
>> I have heard rumors that Novell's eDirectory (used to be NDS) will be
>> included in the next RH distro. This is a full blown directory
>> solution that runs natively on Linux, Windows, Solaris, AIX and of
>> course NetWare. Note: No NetWare servers are needed to run eDirectory.
>> Check it out at http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/. If you
>> want to know more, let me know.
>
> Is NDS opensource?  Does it adhere to the GPL?  If not one or the other,
> then  it most likely won't be included in the main distro.
>
> The same for TOMCAT or JAVA as another person asked about.
>
> Once you start including these non open, non free (as in speech) stuff,
> you  suddenly find yourself running Solaris or Windows, or some other
> propriatary  OS, and That Aint Good(tm).
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Re: Netgear PCMCIA Card MA401

[David Durst]

I am working to get the card working right now, and it seems there are
issues w/ the config.opts in pcmcia in identifying the card.
Is this what you are speaking of?
if so please post - I can't figure out the identity that this card is
posting so I am not sure what I need in config.opts/config
> On 11/21/2002 Dolle said:
>>Hi Everyone.
>>I would create a wireless lan at home and have seen this card:
>>Netgear PCMCIA Card MA401
>>Someone has just installed this card? Are there problems with that
>> card? Sorry for my bad english.
>
> After much struggle and some cogent advice from this group, I did
> finally  get the Netgear MA401 card installed. If you can wait until
> this evening  (I am at GMT - 5) I will dig up my archive and send you
> the two messages  that helped me get it done. In the meantime, go to
> this web site:
>
>  http://prism2.unixguru.raleigh.nc.us/
>
> Follow the links to the Redhat 8 package, get the base rpm, module rpm,
> and pcmcia prism2 rpm, and install them according to directions. There
> is  one thing missing from those directions, however, that I found
> necessary  to make my system work. Unfortunately, I can't remember what
> that was, but  I have it at home and will send it when I get there.
>
> Your English is fine...
>
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Re: A thought about psyche

[David Durst]

I hear this 'training' thing over and over again.
I don't know why it comes up. OOh yeah that right users are idiots.

The thing that gets me is cause you SAY its not WINDOWS people FREAK
and forget how to click a mouse on a button and read the screen.

I think alot of this 'training' thingy cost on switch is also just FUD.
BTW. Look at LINUX right now in the server environment to replace those
FRAMES (And use VPN over DSL or T-1) doing this will save your company
TONS of money.

Desktop thought RH 8.0 does a solid JOB, I don't know who groupwise
integrates w/ evolution or if it does. But what you could look at is
(Hate to plug another company in RH list) is Suse Exchange server, it
emulates exchange functionality (That is if you need the whole sharing of
folders and crap) if not Cyrus or Imapd/ Sendmail or Postfix & OpenLDAP or
cough cough NDS will do a good job at replacing a E-Mail server such as
Groupwise.
> In 1995 Linux did not have the desktop software we need.
>
> We only have to train 3 server admins. We have 850 users in 26 counties
> at more than 60 facilities, with the requisite T1's, frame relay, and
> 10/100BaseT's to keep them connected, as well as keeping them connected
> to our ASP, e-mail (GroupWise), shared drives, etc., etc., ad nausea. :)
>
> Training users is the highest cost we have by far.
>
> Charles Johnson
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> Phone: 463-6527
> Fax: 463-6503
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> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Charles Johnson wrote:
>
>> It is more than the "masses." We have over 850 users on-line here in
>> our company and the re-training costs shifting to a linux desktop are
>> very large.
>
>   Side note: Did you know that the cost of training users to switch
> from Windows 3.x to Linux in 1995 was the same as to Win95?  Did you
> also know that the cost to switch from Win9x/2k to Linux is the same as
> to WinXP?  Most people don't know this even though numerous studies and
> some research shows that it's true.  I remember telling this to some
> people  back in '95 and even after reading the studies and reports they
> still  didn't believe it.  OC, they never even tried it either.
>
>   The real cost in training comes with switching the back-end of
> things.  Server changes have a much higher training cost going from MS
> to  Linux.
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Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

Ok there are 2 issues I have just realized w/ this secondary software CD.

It needs to be broken into 2.

Redhat needs to come out w/ new CD/Software offering called:
Redhat Application Server - Includes: Java SDK, Tomcat, JBOSS, Apache w/
Java connector.

2nd part is:

Redhat desktop Support CD
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Re: A thought about psyche

[David Durst]

So in agreement w/ that

> On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 16:52, Charles Johnson wrote:
>
>> In 1995 Linux did not have the desktop software we need.
>
>   Heh, well, just a little.  ;-)
>
>> We only have to train 3 server admins. We have 850 users in 26
>> counties at more than 60 facilities, with the requisite T1's, frame
>> relay, and 10/100BaseT's to keep them connected, as well as keeping
>> them connected to our ASP, e-mail (GroupWise), shared drives, etc.,
>> etc., ad nausea. :)
>>
>> Training users is the highest cost we have by far.
>
>   Oh, don't get me wrong.  User training is a significant cost no matter
> if it's just a small change to a complete shift in system(s).  I just
> pointed out that the cost is not any more to go from one WinXX major
> version to the next than it is from WinXX to Linux (or OS/2 or Mac OS X,
> for that matter).
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

I am not sure why you say 1/2 closed, and 2nd THERE IS MARKET DEMAND.
Has anyone looked at the major deployments of LINUX and why it is being used
its mostly in JAVA.

And Tomcat, Jboss, apache are all open sourced just not GPLed.

You can LEGALLY distribute the the JRE and J2SDK.


For the most part you just don't get it.
You are so afraid the EULA that it ruins the OSes possiblities.

Who CARES about the EULA of JAVA, IT DOESNT COST A DAMN THING!

And w/ Netscape 7, it doesnt have to be there but make it so when you
have Flash (It install the plugin correctly into Mozilla).

See this is what you don't get - let me give you an analogy to explain it
a bit better.

The state of Linux now is "Here is a car w/ a manual figure it out"

Heres what I am asking for:
"Here is a car w/ a manual, here is the body kit, rims, spolier and CD
Player you can put in the car - side note you DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM ON"


> On Thursday 21 November 2002 16:01, David Durst wrote:
> # Redhat needs to come out w/ new CD/Software offering called:
> # Redhat Application Server - Includes: Java SDK, Tomcat, JBOSS, Apache
> w/ # Java connector.
>
> Why would Red Hat be interested in producing a half closed source
> distro, that  they can't legally redistribute?
>
> # 2nd part is:
> #
> # Redhat desktop Support CD
> # Includes: Flash, JRE, Netscape 7 and MORE WIRELESS NIC CARD DRIVERS,
> etc...
>
> Most of those can't be redistributed, without a big huge gnarly EULA, or
> one  for each peice.  Welcome to Microsoft Windows.  I'd really hope
> that nobody  takes you seriously.
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

I just don't see your point,
you spout off about Microsoft & Solaris.
But you really don't make a FUNCTIONAL point about what is so horrible
about distributing the said software.
You say EULA - even Linux has a EULA you just don't have to click a button
to accept it.
If you would like me to understand your side of the arguement please
explain it better than just saying MICROSOFT.
> On Thursday 21 November 2002 16:33, David Durst wrote:
> # You can LEGALLY distribute the the JRE and J2SDK.
> #
> #
> # For the most part you just don't get it.
> # You are so afraid the EULA that it ruins the OSes possiblities.
> #
> # Who CARES about the EULA of JAVA, IT DOESNT COST A DAMN THING!
> #
> # And w/ Netscape 7, it doesnt have to be there but make it so when you
> # have Flash (It install the plugin correctly into Mozilla).
>
> Sorry, I'm done with you.  You obviously can't see past your hangups,
> and I'm  never going to see things your way.
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Problems with NE2000 ISA Card

[David Mascot]

I recently installed Red Hat 8, for the first time, onto an old Dell
Demension.

I can't get the NE 2000 ISA Ethernet card initialized.

I don't have any drivers for this card, but I do have a dos program on a
floppy that allows me to configure the card to any I/O address and IRQ.
Currently I'm trying IRQ 10 and 300 I/O.

>From the Red Hat desktop I selected "system settings", then "network" and
then the "hardware" tab.  I pressed "add" and selected the NE1000-NE2000
from the dropdown list.  Then I inserted the configuration of IRQ 10 and I/O
0X300.  When I hit "o.k." I get a message that says the card "cannot be
initialized".

Am I missing some steps, or doing something wrong?  Sure would appreciate
some help.

Thanks,
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RE: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

Ok, I see your point.
But no one said that they HAD to support it.
But they don't control 97% of the software they distribute anyways.
So the major difference is that they can see the source, uh
anyone ask IBM for a VM under the IBM Shared Source license?
I would be hard pressed to believe they would say no.

>Think of car companies.  Does GM say,
> here's a car with our stuff that we know works, and here's a CD
> Player/MP3 Player/axle extension kit/body kit?

U actually they do, its called preferred VENDORS thats why you see
items approved by GM that don't void warranties.

But even with all of this your point is still valid, but here is a
economic couter point.

Hmmm Redhat makes most of its money from support, if more people call
for support the more money Redhat can make. Kind of a backwards arguement
but in general the more you DIST. does the more calls you will get.


> The only difference I see is that Redhat doesn't want to include closed
> source software that could possibly have problems with their software
> since they can't see what it's doing, and at that point they wouldn't be
> able to fix it.  This is more of a sane statement from a software
> company
> standpoint.  "Here is a car w/ a manual, you can get the body kit, rims,
> spoiler and CD Player from anywhere you want, but don't expect us to
> help if YOU break something".Of course not.  That
> would be a warranty nightmare (compared to a support nightmare from
> redhat's standpoint) since they have no idea what this equipment might
> do to the vehicle.
>
> Anyway, as it's been said before.  If you don't like the way Redhat does
> it, MAKE YOUR OWN DISTRO and see how it is to support software that you
> know nothing about.  That's the beauty of Linux, don't like it, DO IT
> YOURSELF and stop complaining.
>
> Shaun
>
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> Heres what I am asking for:
> "Here is a car w/ a manual, here is the body kit, rims, spolier and CD
> Player you can put in the car - side note you DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM ON"
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

> On Thursday 21 November 2002 17:00, David Durst wrote:
>> I just don't see your point,
>> you spout off about Microsoft & Solar is.
>> But you really don't make a FUNCTIONAL point about what is so horrible
>> about distributing the said software.
>> You say EULA - even Linux has a EULA you just don't have to click a
>> button to accept it.
>> If you would like me to understand your side of the argument please
>> explain it better than just saying MICROSOFT.
>
> Because once you start adding in stuff like java, and flash, and other
> such  things, you no longer have a free (as in speech) destro.  One of
> the main  things I like about Linux, is that it's free.  I'm free to
> take the distro,  alter it how I want, and use it to my hearts content.
> I don't have to agree  to some silly useage statement, nor do I have to
> worry about making a copy of  what I've done, and giving it to my
> friends.  When you want to add non-free  stuff to the distro, you lose
> your freedom.  Maybe thats not so important to  you, but it's important
> to me, and to a lot of people that I know and  associate with.

Ok maybe you skipped the core part of my post,
I suggested a SEPERATE CD and SEPERATE offering.
If you do this you cause no problems w/ what you present and you solve
my issues.

Remeber it is still your choice to INSTALL a piece of software its
not forced on you so you STILL have FREEDOM.

> Freedom is just a bit more important than saving a few minutes on
> downloading  the non-free stuff that you feel like using.
>
> Anywho, this isn't worth arguing over on a mailing list for support.
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

Ok, then wouldn't it also be possible to let people download?
Maybe I am wrong but I think you can mirror for SUN or IBM on the JAVA thing.

And yeah well hmmm when you buy a RH Box Set do you know what you are
technically paying for? its not the software inside its the 6 months
of support included by RH.

To me it just seems like another way of selling support.

And I don't think JAVA itself needs SUPPORT it seems pretty damn
stable in any environment.

> On Thursday 21 November 2002 18:07, David Durst wrote:
>> Ok, I see your point.
>> But no one said that they HAD to support it.
>> But they don't control 97% of the software they distribute anyways. So
>> the major difference is that they can see the source, uh
>> anyone ask IBM for a VM under the IBM Shared Source license?
>> I would be hard pressed to believe they would say no.
>
> Unfortionatly, not everybody reads the fine print, and "included in the
> box"  eludes to "supported".  Especially if the only way to get that
> "exras" cd was  to purchase the box, and by the software you want to see
> in it, this would be  the only way, then there would be some very upset
> customers that paid $$ for  software that they can't get support on.
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Postgres Fix

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What is the fix for postgres?




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Re: Postgres Fix

[David Durst]

Won't start up
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:49:27 -0800 (PST)
> David Durst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> # What is the fix for postgres?
>
> Or more importantly, what is the problem with postgres?
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

> On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 19:01, David Durst wrote:
>> Ok there are 2 issues I have just realized w/ this secondary software
>> CD.
>>
>> It needs to be broken into 2.
>>
>> Redhat needs to come out w/ new CD/Software offering called:
>> Redhat Application Server - Includes: Java SDK, Tomcat, JBOSS, Apache
>> w/ Java connector.
>
> Sounds a bit like Stronghold 4
Really, Stronghold 4 has this???
Cool

>
>> 2nd part is:
>>
>> Redhat desktop Support CD
>> Includes: Flash, JRE, Netscape 7 and MORE WIRELESS NIC CARD DRIVERS,
>> etc...
>
> Netscape 7? Something wrong with your Mozilla/Galeon/Konqueror?
Moz 1.0 doesn't do Flash or Java Applets out of the box or install
the plugins easily
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Re: Ok mis wording the problem w/ 8.0

[David Durst]

What you just state can in no other way be described but "That SUCKS!"

Ok I get the point, I was not aware that they charged for each distributed
copy. Hmmm ponders a install/download wizard for java :)

Ok, is there anyway that the RH partnership w/ IBM could be leveraged to
achieve the desired???

It is sad at the analogy you just described. Is that really the
relationship between IBM, SUN and Linux right now???

That would be suprising consider the implications of the the SUN/JAVA - MS
settlement.

It just seems to me that there has to be a way to achieve this software
dist.. But then again software giants are stupid w/ working w/ Linux so
why
should I assume that they would want to get their software out there.


> On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 19:33, David Durst wrote:
>> I am not sure why you say 1/2 closed, and 2nd THERE IS MARKET DEMAND.
>> Has anyone looked at the major deployments of LINUX and why it is
>> being used its mostly in JAVA.
>>
>> And Tomcat, Jboss, apache are all open sourced just not GPLed.
>>
>> You can LEGALLY distribute the the JRE and J2SDK.
>
> Not without a distribution license, no. Only SUN and IBM can. That's why
> you have to download them.
>
>> For the most part you just don't get it.
>> You are so afraid the EULA that it ruins the OSes possiblities.
>>
>> Who CARES about the EULA of JAVA, IT DOESNT COST A DAMN THING!
>
> Oh yes it does... If you aren't SUN or IBM, you pay for every copy you
> sell on media (or download, or share... have you lost count yet?)
>
>> And w/ Netscape 7, it doesnt have to be there but make it so when you
>> have Flash (It install the plugin correctly into Mozilla).
>
> I'm not sure why automatic plugin search is currently disabled, but you
> can install most plugins for Netscape 7 in Mozilla, just search for it
> at Netscape's website.
>
>> See this is what you don't get - let me give you an analogy to explain
>> it a bit better.
>>
>> The state of Linux now is "Here is a car w/ a manual figure it out"
>>
>> Heres what I am asking for:
>> "Here is a car w/ a manual, here is the body kit, rims, spolier and CD
>> Player you can put in the car - side note you DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM
>> ON"
>
> Let me give you another analogy. If we shipped everything you wanted it
> would be more like...
>
> "Put your hands up on the hood where we can see them! Your body kit,
> rims, spoiler, and CD player were reported stolen from stores all over
> town. Let's see who you are, I'll just check this wallet. Full? Not
> anymore! Empty now! Wonder how that happened? Hehehe. You are under
> arrest. You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and
> will be used against you in a court of law, You have a right to an
> attorney (he gets everything left in your bank account)..."
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init.d slapd script

[David Durst]

Does anyone know why when you install OpenLDAP there is no init.d startup
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Re: How to rebuild *.src.rpm files ?

[David Kvarnberg]

On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 09:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have got RH 8.0 (i386).
> 
> How to rebuild *.src.rpm packages ?
> I tried with :
> rpm --rebuild 
> 
> but rpm shows me 'rebuild' is not recognized...

Hi,
Try using "rpmbuild --rebuild" instead.
In the newer versions the build functionality of rpm has moved to a separate program.

Also, make sure you have the rpm-build package installed.

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Re: How to rebuild *.src.rpm files ?

[David Kvarnberg]

On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 09:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was not clear too much with my previous message.
> 
> With "rebuild" I mean just "to recompile" a *.src.rpm in order to obtain a
> *.rpm
> package optimized for my PC hardware.

"rpmbuild --rebuild file.src.rpm" does that. It compiles the source in a src.rpm
file and places the resulting rpm file somewhere in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/ 
(depending on target architecture).

You may want to check out the rpmbuild man page for more options though.

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Thank you!

[David Willson]

I have an Inspiron 8100 with Maestro3.  My sound broke badly when I
installed 8.0.  The kernel update from my up2date (yesterday or the day
before) got my laptop talking to me again.  Thanks Red Hat guys!
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Re: Postgres Fix

[David Durst]

Nah, the runlevel is there - the script is there
when you run the script it fails.

It seems the issue has been fixed after running the upgrade
in RHN.

> On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 06:30, David Durst wrote:
>> Won't start up
>> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:49:27 -0800 (PST)
>> > David Durst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > # What is the fix for postgres?
>> > Or more importantly, what is the problem with postgres?
>> > --
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>
> Hi,
>
> Maybe postgresql is not set to startup on your run level.
> You can see what is your default run level with:
>
> # grep default: /etc/inittab
> id:3:initdefault:
>
> In the above case, 3 is the default run level.
>
> Now, what is the status of PostgreSQL?
>
> # /sbin/chkconfig --list postgresql
> postgresql  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
>
>
> In this case, it is off in all run levels!!! Maybe that's your case too.
>
> To make it startup on run level 3 (the default in this example), you
> must do:
>
> # /sbin/chkconfig --level 3 postgresql on
>
> And now, you will see:
>
> # /sbin/chkconfig --list postgresql
> postgresql  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:on4:off   5:off   6:off
>
> Now, so you don't need to reboot just to get PostgreSQL, do:
>
> # service postgresql start
>
> Happy hacking...
>
> Rui
>
> See also: man chkconfig, man grep, /sbin/service --help, man inittab
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Re: Dist. Suggestions

[David Durst]

Reallly which CD?
> I must be missing something here. TOMCAT *is* on the RedHat 8.0 install.
> There is a JVM loaded as well, just not Sun's, IBM's, or HP's.
>
> Charles Johnson
> Manager, IS Applications
> Phone: 463-6527
> Fax: 463-6503
> Help Desk: 463-6516
>
> Remember the heroes of UAL Flight 93
>
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:46:05 PM >>>
> I was just thinking, Apache I believe is under the same license as
> Tomcat. So why isn't tomcat available and just put the JDK and JRE on a
> seperate CD?
>> Tomcat is open source. It is the Jakarta project of Apache.
>>
>> Sun's JVM is not open source as far as I know, though it is free to
>> download. IBM's JVM is not open source, either.
>>
>> NetBeans is an open source development environment for Java; but you
>> still need a JVM.
>>
>> Charles Johnson
>> Manager, IS Applications
>> Phone: 463-6527
>> Fax: 463-6503
>> Help Desk: 463-6516
>>
>> Remember the heroes of UAL Flight 93
>>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:37:10 PM >>>
>> On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:47, Forgosh, Seth wrote:
>>> I have heard rumors that Novell's eDirectory (used to be NDS) will be
>>> included in the next RH distro. This is a full blown directory
>>> solution that runs natively on Linux, Windows, Solaris, AIX and of
>>> course NetWare. Note: No NetWare servers are needed to run
>>> eDirectory. Check it out at
>>> http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/. If you want to know more,
>>> let me know.
>>
>> Is NDS opensource?  Does it adhere to the GPL?  If not one or the
>> other, then  it most likely won't be included in the main distro.
>>
>> The same for TOMCAT or JAVA as another person asked about.
>>
>> Once you start including these non open, non free (as in speech)
>> stuff, you  suddenly find yourself running Solaris or Windows, or some
>> other propriatary  OS, and That Aint Good(tm).
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Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

[David Durst]

Great.
Not to be a dick but.
I think RH has done a great thing for the overall MARKET in 8.0.

But what RH needs to remember and I think what I see you are angry at
is that 8.0 is not for you and not for the typical LINUX user.

But by no means is 8.0 NOT Linux, in fact I think it is the embodiment
of what LINUX really is.  What I mean by that is that they exercised
they're right to MODIFY something to achieve the desire.

I think to appease more users RH needs to come out w/ a TECHNICAL &
NON-TECHNICAL distribution.



> On Friday 22 November 2002 11:58 am, Jean Francois Martinez wrote:
>
> Let's see, I am stuck trying to install kdeadmin and koffice from
> source, and  I am finding that RH has customized things so that we
> either have to use the  RH version of KDE, or forget it.
>
> As far as I am concerned:
>
> RH broke the beauty of Linux. And the beauty of RH, which was real linux
> until  recently.
>
> I'm off shopping for Mandrake 9.0 tommorrow.
>
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