Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Daniel T. Drea
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, John Lowell wrote:

> Michael Schwendt wrote:
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> >On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:37:56 -0500, John Lowell wrote:
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> >
> >
> >>Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j?
> >>>
> >>>Run "fsck /dev/xxx" and see. Recent versions of e2fsprogs would hide the journal
> >>>anyway.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Let me see if I can be helpful to you here, Mr. Schwendt.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Really helpful would be to just read the manual. Also helpful would
> >be if you explained what makes you believe you must use option -j in
> >the way you presented it. That would give us subscribers a better
> >picture of what you've been trying to achieve. There are other fsck
> >options which make sense when checking a file system. You don't want
> >to miss them.
> >
> >
> >
> >>The question
> >>initially and now has simply been whether or not the right command to
> >>run a file system check on an ext3 file system is e2fsck -j /dev/,
> >>one answered simply enough with a yes or a no, and, if with a no, with
> >>an indication of the proper command.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >A brief look at "e2fsck --help" would tell you that your
> >command-line is a syntax error.
> >
> >Running that command would give an error and print the command's
> >syntax description and options overview.
> >
> >
> >
> >>The marvelous economy involved in
> >>employing a  proceedure of this kind would seem to have escaped you. As
> >>earlier I'd mentioned to you that I wasn't much for tolerating abuse,
> >>know further that I'm equally averse to "answers" that suggest that I
> >>might learn through experimentation. If you have an answer to bring to
> >>my question, bring it, otherwise spare me further messages kindly.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This is nonsense. If I were a troll and answered "yes" to your
> >initial question, would you run the command without verifying that
> >it doesn't wipe your data? The man page is where you can check what
> >the command would do.
> >
> >If you don't want to use "fsck /dev/xx", that's your problem.
> >
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> I really don't want to hear from you again, Mr. Schwendt, and if I do
> I'll take the matter to the people that run the list. I hope I make
> myself absolutely clear.
>
> John Lowell

This is pretty funny, he's done nothing except try to help you and your so
hostile. If you expect better help than he's given you, you'd have to
write the software yourself.

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Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Daniel T. Drea
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, John Lowell wrote:

> Daniel T. Drea wrote:
>
> >This is pretty funny, he's done nothing except try to help you and your so
> >hostile. If you expect better help than he's given you, you'd have to
> >write the software yourself.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Maybe you've gotten a little too used to taking just anything from
> people on lists of this kind to be able successful to distinguish
> between help and abuse, Mr. Drea. That wouldn't surprise me. Let me
> point you to an example of what help actually is in a situation like
> this so that you would be burdened with a similar handicap in the
> future. See Aaron Konstam's answer to my question, that's help.
>
> John Lowell
>

Obviously, you don't know good help when you see it. You are now religated
to the but-bucket. I do know good help when I see it, and on more
occasions than I can remember Mike has been helpful to me and many others,
I will not tolerate the unwarranted abuse you are sujecting him too. You
sir are beyond helping.

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RE: Audigy 2: almost working... some further questions.

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel T. Drea
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Wolfgang Gill wrote:

> It's a trial version, it will expire after a certain period of time. (Which
> is why I have not tried them yet)
>
> Wolf
>
This is incorrect. From the alsa site:
" ALSA is released under the GPL (GNU General Public license) and the LGPL
(GNU Lesser General Public License)."

http://www.alsa-project.org/

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RE: Audigy 2: almost working... some further questions.

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel T. Drea
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I would recommed the CVS source from sourceforge.

http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=44773

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Mirabella, Mathew J wrote:

> ok well in that case... would you recommend using these alsa drivers or just the 
> emu10k1 stuff from cvs?
>
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> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Wolfgang Gill wrote:
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> > It's a trial version, it will expire after a certain period of time. (Which
> > is why I have not tried them yet)
> >
> > Wolf
> >
> This is incorrect. From the alsa site:
> " ALSA is released under the GPL (GNU General Public license) and the LGPL
> (GNU Lesser General Public License)."
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/
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RE: Spam ?

2003-03-24 Thread Daniel T. Drea
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Eric Burke wrote:

> > I think they want to match Mandrake's version number...
> > Just a thought...
> >
>
> I never even thought about that. The only thing there is...Mandrake is
> releasing 9.1but this would at least catch them up.
>
>
>
>

More like slackware 9.0 which was just released.

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Re: Red Hat 9

2003-03-25 Thread Daniel T. Drea
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Gordon Messmer wrote:

> Everyone has what they want, except for those who want the same old
> thing  If you want the same old thing, run Slackware.  It hasn't
> changed in YEARS.  As a consequence, it's a damn pain to maintain.

I take offense to that, as a longtime slackware and redhat user, I find
nothing hard about maintaining slackware in the least. This list is not
the place for mudslinging. Maybe you haven't changed in years, but I would
suggest you look over the software implimented in the new slackware 9.0,
you might be surprised. :)

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Re: Red Hat 9

2003-03-25 Thread Daniel T. Drea
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Gordon Messmer wrote:

> Daniel T. Drea wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Everyone has what they want, except for those who want the same old
> >>thing  If you want the same old thing, run Slackware.  It hasn't
> >>changed in YEARS.  As a consequence, it's a damn pain to maintain.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I take offense to that, as a longtime slackware and redhat user, I find
> >nothing hard about maintaining slackware in the least. This list is not
> >the place for mudslinging. Maybe you haven't changed in years, but I would
> >suggest you look over the software implimented in the new slackware 9.0,
> >you might be surprised. :)
> >
> >
>
> I'm aware of Slackware's state.
>
> I find that people who become accustomed to a thing no longer think that
> it's hard.  However, keeping a large farm of Slackware machines up to
> date is significantly more difficult than it is on any other common
> Linux distribution.  On Debian, you can "apt-get upgrade" and be done.
>  On Red Hat, you can do the same, or you can subscribe to RHN and get a
> web based view of all of your machines, discover where updates need to
> be applied and apply them.  What has Slackware got that compares to that?
>
> Slackware's package management tool is basically the same today as it
> was 7 years ago (or more).  Back then, it might have been acceptable,
> but today it is not.  Package management software is expected to track
> dependencies to prevent you from installing something that isn't going
> to run (like an update to openssh that was built on a different version
> of openssl).  Until such a thing is introduced, keeping a Slackware
> system up to date or installing new software on a Slackware system will
> be less reliable/simple than the same task on any other distribution.
>
> It's not personal, and there's no reason for you to be offended.
>

Can large numbers of redhat machines be updated with a single comand from
one box? If not then how is that any easier than typing:

upgradepkg path/to/remote/or/local/upgrade/packages/*.tgz

for each machine?

It's slackwares package management that I find make it "easier" to keep
updated with the latest releases of software. Just as you rely on rhn to
supply you updates to your redhat systems, slackware users can be
confident that errata and updates will be released in the patches section
of all slackware mirrors thus alleviating any worries of openssh being
built against different version of openssl :) If your going to rely on
redhats network for your updates then slackwares mirrors should be just as
reliable for updates. Since we are only allowing packages created by our
distributions there are few if any differences. As for third party binary
packages, linuxpackages.net keeps a nice repository of packages in
separate sections for each release much as does freshrpms.net. One more
thing, slackware 9.0 is including the checkinstall utility patched for
better integration with slackwares own pkgtool that permits admins to
easily create slackware/rpm/debian packages from source installs while
updating the package database.

While I did say I was offended, you have misunderstood the seriousness of
my offense. I am no more offended by your puckering of slackware than I am
of any other linux distribution. I had assumed (here we go again) that the
inclusion of the " :) " at the end of my post showed that it was partially
in jest. I am a long time user and purchaser of many different linux
flavors. I admit I have spent 4 to 5 times the amount of money on linux
over the years than on software from any other source. I like all the
flavors of linux for different reasons and valuer redhat no less than any
other.

Don't be angry, this is all "My Personal Opinion" :)

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Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Daniel T. Drea
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Keith Winston wrote:

> Windows, and you will lose more control of both as time goes on.  You
> are also supporting a group of very unethical people, at least at the
> highest management levels, who are not concerned at all about your
> interests, just your money.
>
> Best Regards,
> Keith
>

Welcome to America ;)

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