Re: A simple question on mouse

[Jesse Keating]

On Tuesday 24 June 2003 20:41, Stephen Liu wrote:
> After booting up the PC the captioned mouse has not been detected.  What
> command line shall be used to activate it instead of to reboot the PC?

mouseconfig.

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Ximian Evolution problem

[Stephen Liu]

Hi all folks,

Ximian Evolution 1.0.8
==

Occasionally when I login as USER, start "Evolution" popup following
warning;

Cannot initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration Database not
found

compelling to reboot PC (relogin could not solve this problem)

Kindly advise how to solve this problem avoiding reboot

TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu




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Re: network Installation

[Dennis Gilmore]

My Bad,  its been awhile since ive done a 8.0 install.

Sorry yes use the bootnet.img  but possibly you will still need a driver disk 
if your nics drivers are not on the bootnet image

Dennis

On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:43 am, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 June 2003 01:10, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > There is no longer a bootnet image  there is the vanilla one and some
> > driver ones depending on what hardware you are using will depend on what
> > driver disks you need
>
> This is the case for RHL9, but not for RHL8.  RHL8 still has a bootnet
> image.
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Re: mysterious routes appearing

[Jeffrey Ross]

just a guess, since I haven't seen all the postings and I don'tknow what 
your network looks like.  Is it possible you have multiple routers on 
your network and you are receiving an ICMP redirect?


On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:22, Guy Fraser wrote:

Hi
=20
I will annotate the routes in question for you.
[snip]


Thanks for the help, but you explained the ones I already know! As I
mentioned, the three routes that are ok are:

>>The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.
>>172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00=
 eth0

>>127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00=
 lo

>>0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00=
 eth0

the 'others' are 1 & 3:

>>203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  00=
 eth0

>>203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  00=
 eth0

Its these two that I can't get rid of which is a nuisance, as they were
ok once but now I don't want them.

>It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 2>/dev/null


By the way David, I tried this the other day as well, but nothing came
up... grep seemed to 'hang' though, so I'll try again 

I think that if you are having connectivity problems


I'm not  except for the routes that I can't get rid of


 it is because you=20
are not using "publicly routable" ip addresses.
[snip]


The ip addresses are fine 


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Re: mysterious routes appearing

[Guy Fraser]

Oops :-{

Check to see if you are running ;
routed, gated or zebra.
They are all routing deamons, I know someone asked if you were running 
RIP or OSPF.

IIRC all three support RIP, but I think gated and zebra support other 
routing protocols as well like
IGRP.

As root, check what network services you are running with :

netstat --inet -lp

---sample---
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address 
State   PID/Program name
tcp0  0 *:printer   *:* 
LISTEN  606/lpd Waiting
tcp0  0 *:x11   *:* 
LISTEN  879/X
tcp0  0 *:webmin*:* 
LISTEN  813/perl
tcp0  0 *:ssh   *:* 
LISTEN  570/sshd
tcp0  0 *:postgres  *:* 
LISTEN  700/postmaster
tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:* 
LISTEN  637/sendmail: accep
udp0  0 *:webmin
*:* 813/perl
udp0  0 *:bootps
*:* 618/dhcpd
udp0  0 mashed.bananas.nut:ntp  
*:* 590/ntpd
udp0  0 squishy.tomatos.nut:ntp 
*:* 590/ntpd
udp0  0 localhost.localdoma:ntp 
*:* 590/ntpd
udp0  0 *:ntp   
*:* 590/ntpd
raw0  0 *:icmp  *:* 
7   618/dhcpd
---end---

RIP runs on {from /etc/services}:
router  520/udp route routed# RIP
Maybe this will be helpfull :-)

Guy

Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:22, Guy Fraser wrote:

Hi

I will annotate the routes in question for you.
[snip]
Thanks for the help, but you explained the ones I already know! As I
mentioned, the three routes that are ok are:

The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.
172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
the 'others' are 1 & 3:

203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
Its these two that I can't get rid of which is a nuisance, as they were
ok once but now I don't want them.

It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 2>/dev/null

By the way David, I tried this the other day as well, but nothing came
up... grep seemed to 'hang' though, so I'll try again :(

I think that if you are having connectivity problems

I'm not :) except for the routes that I can't get rid of



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Re: newbie

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 18:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> metaphoric extension of "you bug me". BUG is slang, not proper English, which calls 
> them insects.
> 
> Now who will HELP me with MY problem, you've been pretty loud about yours.
> 
> My currently main neurosis with Red Hat right now is which order does one do things 
> to customise.  1st
> one makes directories, then subdirectories and after that mounts certain packages, 
> -programs, etc to
> me - now HOW does one MOUNT  - which does not mean sit on the Monitor. I've read the 
> white handbook and
> all the docs on the frisbie and there one finds TOPICAL help but not in wuyhich 
> order to proceed. The
> reason for that I explained before, it's the style and convention of use in writing 
> docs.
> 

I wasn't involved in this discussion so I'll just confine myself to your
plight.

I don't recall ever reading about any order of things.

A VERY important thing to learn is the 'man' command...

try this...'man mount'

Another important thing to learn is that administration has
traditionally been done from the command line and there are an
incomplete suite of GUI based tools for system administration and I
wouldn't necessarily recommend them but if you are determined to fight
through a server setup without learning anything, check out
www.webmin.com

lastly - please review Eric Raymond's 'How to Ask Questions the Smart
Way' 

Craig



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Re: mysterious routes appearing

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 22:01, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> just a guess, since I haven't seen all the postings and I don'tknow what 
> your network looks like.  Is it possible you have multiple routers on 
> your network

yes

>  and you are receiving an ICMP redirect?

probably not, unless they get through the firewall.  The only icmp
packets I'm allowing are echoes, although you might be able to tell me
more...

Thanks,
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Re: mysterious routes appearing

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:27, Guy Fraser wrote:
> Check to see if you are running ;
> routed, gated or zebra.

nope!  man, ls /etc/init.d/ and trying to execute these commands returns
nothing.

[snip]
> As root, check what network services you are running with :
> 
> netstat --inet -lp
> 
> ---sample---
[snip]
> ---end---

what will this tell me?  None of the afore mentioned daemons showed up.

> RIP runs on {from /etc/services}:
> router  520/udp route routed# RIP
> 
> Maybe this will be helpfull :-)

Kind of, in that it gives me more things to rule out.  But I think we're
barking up the wrong tree here.  The routes only existed in the first
place because I added them (using route add, or redhat-config-network,
or both, cant remember :)  so maybe its a redhat-gone-screwy thing...

Thanks for your help so far.  Any more ideas?  I might try the shrike
list too.
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Re: newbie

[Callan K L Tham]

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On Thursday 26 June 2003 01:31, Craig White wrote:
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> I don't recall ever reading about any order of things.
>

Looks like we're running into a problem here. The original thread, titled 
simply "Hi" was posted by Adrian started on 22nd June, and only I responded. 
This happened all the way till 25th June. I'm not sure why no one responded 
to him, but I wonder if everyone on the list got the mails, cos only another 
person responded besides me.

Did eveyone get those mails?

Callan
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A simple question on mouse AGAIN

[Stephen Liu]

Hi all folks,

USB Optical mouse
=

After booting up PC the captioned mouse has not been detected.  I
started "TEST MODE" with Ctrl+Alt+F2 and issued "mouseconfig" command. 
After having reselected the mouse I changed back to Graphic Mode.  But
the mouse still could not be detected compelling me to reboot the PC

Any advice?

TIA

B.Regards




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RE: A simple question on mouse AGAIN

[Wolfgang Gill]

Are you sure that the USB drivers are loading properly??? As I have run both
Logitech Mouseman Cordless Optical and the Cordless MX-700 mice without
problems. Without the USB and Hid (Human interface Device) drivers loaded,
you will not be able to use the mouse. (I'm running the MX-700 on the USB
port as I write this message)

You should see something like this when you run lsmod from the command line.

keybdev 2912   0  (unused)
mousedev5428   1
hid21892   0  (unused)
input   5792   0  [keybdev mousedev hid]
ehci-hcd   19784   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   25996   0  (unused)
usbcore78272   1  [hid ehci-hcd usb-uhci]

If you don't see anything in relation to the 'usbcore' stuff, then it may be
likely that the USB ports may be disabled in the BIOS. Just go into the BIOS
and enable the USB ports. You should see it somewhere in the 'Intergrated
Peripherals' section if you BIOS has it.

Wolf

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Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 4:05 PM
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Subject: A simple question on mouse AGAIN


Hi all folks,

USB Optical mouse
=

After booting up PC the captioned mouse has not been detected.  I started
"TEST MODE" with Ctrl+Alt+F2 and issued "mouseconfig" command. 
After having reselected the mouse I changed back to Graphic Mode.  But the
mouse still could not be detected compelling me to reboot the PC

Any advice?

TIA

B.Regards

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Re: newbie

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I looked at both urls
www.webmin.com The man knows how to write and put up a webpage. IF only one could get 
that installed in
linux, instead of windows which won't allow that, and I cannot get INTO linux beyond 
gnome, so far.
Consider the bugs, fill in the search box when I don't even know what bugs to look at, 
also looked at
the list, I might as well be reading swahili. The bugs are topic and task specific, 
which requires one
already knows how Linux works and can use it. Then some or other detail won't go as 
EXPECTED and one
focusses on solving that within one's grasp of the subject. It means one must at least 
have some grasp
to things. So far I have none. Now how can an expert make it easy to understand to a 
newbie? Which
inverts the issue as put up by the next one.


The man makes several wrong assumptions about asking smart questions. To do so one 
first has to know the
other person's mind set and mindstyle and its contents, or be quite familiar with 
that. I once spent
half an hour having a Physicist ask me questions to get to know what I knew about 
transducers & Physics.
After that he took 5 minutes to explain it. Having taught people one first feeds in an 
idea and a bird's
eye view, after which it takes between two and four weeks to percolate around inside 
their unconscious,
after which they begin to ask some questions and do this again. My son once wanted to 
know whether the
sun was bigger than Auckland, the city he lived in. It too months of getting books, 
visting a
planetarium, with weeks intervals between until he told me "can we go again". The last 
visit was when I
tested him for some ideas he told me" Oh, I know all that" and the subject was never 
broached again. All
he wanted was to get oriented in his world.

There is no such thing as a smart question except in the mind of an replier who knows 
it is a smart
question, because he knows his subject. One asks questions according to the level of 
insight one has of
something. Had it once when the new maths - set theory - was introduced. The math 
teacher had not a clue
and the students told me, cause they knew they could ask me anything. So I read the 
book, once, passed
the test included at 86% which I thought was good enough, taught them Set Theory and 
so annoyed the hell
out of the math teacher by having the student ask him smart questions he knew not how 
to asnwer. Of
course they were posed and suggested by me. Sets work like words do. Alkl I used as a 
model was a paper
bag and kitchen drawers, something they already knew. When abstractions are well 
firmed up in someone's
mind they know not how to renders them transparent to someone who does not know that 
much.  A medical
degree, which takes several years to learn can be actually taught in three months, the 
rest is
superfluous waffle. But then one cannot do that unless one already knows the crucial 
aspects that make
all the difference and has a working model of how people who do not know actually 
think. Then one has to
figure out transfer notions to poke them in the other person's head.

I gather, infer, surmise that you are intent on having me ask topic and task specific 
questions so you
can reply in Linux jargon. I ain't got that far yet. That's how all the documentation 
works for
computerese. Compare that to taking one's car to a mechanic, something wromng, does 
not sound right. The
mechanic turns it on, listens and says "Oh, you need a so and so fixed". He can only 
do that because he
has in his mind a working model of a car and engine, knows which bit does what, has a 
further model of
how a "perfect" engine should behave and a pile of other stuff and data about what can 
go wrong. We live
in a world of experts and specialists and professionals who do things for us, but that 
implies there is
no need to explain it, just foot the bill. Now how does one get to be expert starting 
from nowhere. Yep,
I'm am expert in several things other than Linux. Anthropologists are trained one how 
to learn a
language and get to know a culture of the "primitives" they study.

The one on "Making it easy to answer" riles me. How can one do that when one lacks 
familiarity with the
topic in hand? One can transfer data but one cannot transfer understanding, grokking 
something. Where
and how does one start? In ignorance, which does not mean a lack of understanding. 
Apart from that
programmers and computer geeks have different mindstyles than ordinary folk. What is 
easy for a chip on
a computer is hard for people. WHY, it's the difference between the well defined word 
versus ambiguity.


Sorry, end of rant

Adrian





I would fancy one first makes a directory setup. adjusts the kernel, gets some 
programs, oops packages
going, integrates them with the kernel, etc Since most administrative tasks have to be 
organised in
root, etc blahh.

I got gnome and nix else works or can be found. Giving me text Linux commands is no 
use unless I

RE: mysterious routes appearing

[Hattie Rouge]

Anybody mention rdisc yet?  


Dana Bourgeois


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Fraser
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mysterious routes appearing
> 
> 
> Oops :-{
> 
> Check to see if you are running ;
> routed, gated or zebra.
> 
> They are all routing deamons, I know someone asked if you 
> were running 
> RIP or OSPF.
> 
> IIRC all three support RIP, but I think gated and zebra support other 
> routing protocols as well like
> IGRP.
> 
> As root, check what network services you are running with :
> 
> netstat --inet -lp
> 
> ---sample---
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address 
> State   PID/Program name
> tcp0  0 *:printer   *:* 
> LISTEN  606/lpd Waiting
> tcp0  0 *:x11   *:* 
> LISTEN  879/X
> tcp0  0 *:webmin*:* 
> LISTEN  813/perl
> tcp0  0 *:ssh   *:* 
> LISTEN  570/sshd
> tcp0  0 *:postgres  *:* 
> LISTEN  700/postmaster
> tcp0  0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:* 
> LISTEN  637/sendmail: accep
> udp0  0 *:webmin
> *:* 813/perl
> udp0  0 *:bootps
> *:* 618/dhcpd
> udp0  0 mashed.bananas.nut:ntp  
> *:* 590/ntpd
> udp0  0 squishy.tomatos.nut:ntp 
> *:* 590/ntpd
> udp0  0 localhost.localdoma:ntp 
> *:* 590/ntpd
> udp0  0 *:ntp   
> *:* 590/ntpd
> raw0  0 *:icmp  *:* 
> 7   618/dhcpd
> ---end---
> 
> RIP runs on {from /etc/services}:
> router  520/udp route routed# RIP
> 
> Maybe this will be helpfull :-)
> 
> Guy
> 
> Iain Buchanan wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:22, Guy Fraser wrote:
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I will annotate the routes in question for you.
> >>[snip]
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for the help, but you explained the ones I already know! As I 
> >mentioned, the three routes that are ok are:
> >
> >
> The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.
> 172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0   
>00 eth0
> 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0   
>00 lo
> 0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0   
>00 eth0
> 
> >
> >the 'others' are 1 & 3:
> >
> 203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0   
>00 eth0
> 203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0   
>00 eth0
> 
> >
> >Its these two that I can't get rid of which is a nuisance, 
> as they were 
> >ok once but now I don't want them.
> >
> >
> >>>It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 
> 2>/dev/null
> >>>
> >
> >By the way David, I tried this the other day as well, but 
> nothing came 
> >up... grep seemed to 'hang' though, so I'll try again :(
> >
> >
> >>I think that if you are having connectivity problems
> >>
> >
> >I'm not :) except for the routes that I can't get rid of
> >
> 
> 
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