Re: network Installation

2003-06-24 Thread Dennis Gilmore
There is no longer a bootnet image  there is the vanilla one and some driver 
ones depending on what hardware you are using will depend on what driver 
disks you need

Dennis

On Monday 23 June 2003 11:25 pm, Dan Dobbs wrote:
> You need to use the bootnet image (instead of the vanilla 'boot' image),
> so it will give you the network install options.
>
> -dd
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Re: network Installation

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Dobbs
That's funny. I guess that bootnet image at 

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/os/i386/images/

must be a mistake then, huh?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/24/2003 1:10:25 AM >>>
There is no longer a bootnet image  there is the vanilla one and some
driver 
ones depending on what hardware you are using will depend on what
driver 
disks you need

Dennis

On Monday 23 June 2003 11:25 pm, Dan Dobbs wrote:
> You need to use the bootnet image (instead of the vanilla 'boot'
image),
> so it will give you the network install options.
>
> -dd
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Re: network Installation

2003-06-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 01:10, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> There is no longer a bootnet image  there is the vanilla one and some
> driver ones depending on what hardware you are using will depend on what
> driver disks you need

This is the case for RHL9, but not for RHL8.  RHL8 still has a bootnet image.

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Re: mysterious routes appearing

2003-06-24 Thread Guy Fraser
Hi

I will annotate the routes in question for you.

djh wrote:

On 24 Jun 2003, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 

Now I do ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 and the routes come back again. 
Then I run redhat-config-network and the routes are listed under eth0. 
Any more ideas?

route -n:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
This is an implicit network route, pointing 172.16.0.0/255.255.255.0 to 
the default route on eth0.

203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
This is the network route for the loopback interface {lo0}, it must 
exist or your machine can not run.

0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

This is your default route also known as your "gateway", if you want to 
connect to the internet you must have a "gateway".

The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.  The other two come back all the time!
   

It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 2>/dev/null

David.

 

I think that if you are having connectivity problems it is because you 
are not using "publicly routable" ip addresses.

Below you will see that all ip addresses from 172.16.0.0 - 
172.31.255.255 are reserved, and therefore not routable through the 
internet :

Start
OrgName:Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID:  IANA
Address:4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City:   Marina del Rey
StateProv:  CA
PostalCode: 90292-6695
Country:US
NetRange:   172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
CIDR:   172.16.0.0/12
NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
NetHandle:  NET-172-16-0-0-1
Parent: NET-172-0-0-0-0
NetType:IANA Special Use
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG
Comment:This block is reserved for special purposes.
Comment:Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
Comment:
RegDate:1994-03-15
Updated:2002-09-12
OrgTechHandle: IANA-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgTechPhone:  +1-310-823-9358
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-06-23 21:05
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
End
Assuming that 172.16.0.8 and 172.16.0.4 are devices that are able to 
route traffic, then you should be OK.

Guy



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Re: More on /etc/aliases forwarding wrong user

2003-06-24 Thread Guy Fraser
This may be simple.

I will guess that you have put otherdomain.dom in your 
/etc/mail/local-host-names file.
If you added {IIRC} a Cwotherdomain.dom to your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, 
this would explain it as well.

If you are not using sendmail, I can't help you. I work for a large ISP 
and Qmail just can't handle our requirements.

Guy

Tom Rymes wrote:

Well, so far the only progress I have made is determining that I 
somehow opened up my mailserver as an open relayugh! That's solved 
now, but still no movement on this issue as to forwarding.

The plot thickens here, because it seems that sendmail thinks it 
processing mail for both of my domains. (which it isn't. I have two 
separate mail servers) Anyway, when I sent an email from a user on my 
RedHat box to a user at my other domain, I get an undeliverable 
message. The most intriguing part of which is:

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to [127.0.0.1]:
My RedHat machine thinks that my other domain is hosted at 127.0.0.1. 
This is not the case, and is not a DNS issue, b/c everything works 
fine at my other domain. I double checked /etc/hosts and there is no 
errant entry there, and a quick grep of the sendmail.cf file reveals 
no otherdomain.dom entries there. Any ideas here?

To recap, any mail forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is actually 
delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send mail from the 
RedHat machine to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that username does 
not exist on the redhat machine, the mail fails to be delivered. If 
the username does exist locally, then it is delivered to the redhat 
machine, NOT the other domain's mailserver. Obviously I screwed 
somethign up here by accidentally keying my other domain name on the 
redhat machine. however, I have no idea where that would be

Thank you for any info, or tips as to where I should look for help...

Tom




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Re: Hi

2003-06-24 Thread Callan K L Tham
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> I'll do a custom today with format and see, the screen worked before. Did
> not format last one on auto.
>
> Adrian.

You mentioned you did not do a format before you installed RH, which I'd 
always recommend. AFAIK your hardware should work fine with 8.0. Try 
formatting and see if it works, and keep us posted on your progress...

Good Luck!

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re: mysterious routes appearing

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Weber
Are you running RIP or OSPF?  How about a firewall?

If you reboot the machine how long does it take for the routes to show
up?  My network scripts are in /etc/rc[3,5].d/S10network.  Try creating
a script the dumps the route table to a text file and put it in My
network scripts are in /etc/rc[3,5].d/S11route-dump and see what it
shows.  

(Or just add the route -n > /var/log/route.dump command to your
S10network file.)

HTH

-Michael


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 11:51PM >>>
On 24 Jun 2003, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> 
> Now I do ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 and the routes come back
again. 
> Then I run redhat-config-network and the routes are listed under
eth0. 
> Any more ideas?
> 
> route -n:
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref   
Use Iface
> 203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  0   
0 eth0
> 172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0   
0 eth0
> 203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  0   
0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  0   
0 lo
> 0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  0   
0 eth0
> 
> The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.  The other two come back all
the time!

It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 2>/dev/null

David.


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RE: More on /etc/aliases forwarding wrong user

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Rymes
Guy,

You are the man! I knew it had to be something stupid that I did on
initial setup, and it certainly was. /etc/mail/local-host-names had the
otherdomain.dom listed in it. I fixed it and now everything seems to be
right as rain!

Thank you sir!

Tomas

> -Original Message-
> From: Guy Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: More on /etc/aliases forwarding wrong user
> 
> This may be simple.
> 
> I will guess that you have put otherdomain.dom in your
> /etc/mail/local-host-names file.
> If you added {IIRC} a Cwotherdomain.dom to your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf,
> this would explain it as well.
> 
> If you are not using sendmail, I can't help you. I work for a large
ISP
> and Qmail just can't handle our requirements.
> 
> Guy
> 
> Tom Rymes wrote:
> 
> > Well, so far the only progress I have made is determining that I
> > somehow opened up my mailserver as an open relayugh! That's
solved
> > now, but still no movement on this issue as to forwarding.
> >
> > The plot thickens here, because it seems that sendmail thinks it
> > processing mail for both of my domains. (which it isn't. I have two
> > separate mail servers) Anyway, when I sent an email from a user on
my
> > RedHat box to a user at my other domain, I get an undeliverable
> > message. The most intriguing part of which is:
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > ... while talking to [127.0.0.1]:
> >
> > My RedHat machine thinks that my other domain is hosted at
127.0.0.1.
> > This is not the case, and is not a DNS issue, b/c everything works
> > fine at my other domain. I double checked /etc/hosts and there is no
> > errant entry there, and a quick grep of the sendmail.cf file reveals
> > no otherdomain.dom entries there. Any ideas here?
> >
> > To recap, any mail forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is actually
> > delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send mail from the
> > RedHat machine to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that username does
> > not exist on the redhat machine, the mail fails to be delivered. If
> > the username does exist locally, then it is delivered to the redhat
> > machine, NOT the other domain's mailserver. Obviously I screwed
> > somethign up here by accidentally keying my other domain name on the
> > redhat machine. however, I have no idea where that would be
> >
> > Thank you for any info, or tips as to where I should look for
help...
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> 
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Re: mysterious routes appearing

2003-06-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:22, Guy Fraser wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I will annotate the routes in question for you.
> [snip]

Thanks for the help, but you explained the ones I already know! As I
mentioned, the three routes that are ok are:

> >>The ok routes are obviously 2, 4 & 5.
> >>172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
> >>127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
> >>0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

the 'others' are 1 & 3:
> >>203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
> >>203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0

Its these two that I can't get rid of which is a nuisance, as they were
ok once but now I don't want them.

> >It should be in /etc somewhere..  grep -r 203.16.234 /etc 2>/dev/null

By the way David, I tried this the other day as well, but nothing came
up... grep seemed to 'hang' though, so I'll try again :(

> I think that if you are having connectivity problems

I'm not :) except for the routes that I can't get rid of

>  it is because you 
> are not using "publicly routable" ip addresses.
> [snip]

The ip addresses are fine :)

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re: mysterious routes appearing

2003-06-24 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 05:44, Michael Weber wrote: 
> Are you running RIP or OSPF?

AFAIK, no!

>   How about a firewall?

Definately.  What effect might this have on routes appearing?

> If you reboot the machine how long does it take for the routes to show
> up?

I'm guessing as soon as eth0 comes up, although I could be wrong.  I
make this assumption because I fix the routes with route del... and then
as soon as I run ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0, the routes come back.

>   My network scripts are in /etc/rc[3,5].d/S10network.  Try creating
> a script the dumps the route table to a text file and put it in My
> network scripts are in /etc/rc[3,5].d/S11route-dump and see what it
> shows.

I had a look in here and the only place it seems to get routes from
(about line 146) is: 
# Add non interface-specific static-routes.
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/static-routes ]; then
   grep "^any" /etc/sysconfig/static-routes | while read ignore args ; do
 /sbin/route add -$args
   done
fi

and yes, /etc/sysconfig/static-routes is empty!

> (Or just add the route -n > /var/log/route.dump command to your
> S10network file.)

Ok I tried this, but it didn't tell me much else.  At the beginning of
/etc/rc.d/init.d/S10network I put:
route -n > /var/log/pre-route.dump
which, after a reboot contains (as I expected):

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface

and nothing else.  At the end I put:
route -n > /var/log/post-route.dump
which, after a reboot, contains (as I expected):

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
203.16.234.0172.16.0.8  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
172.16.0.0  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
203.39.28.0 172.16.0.4  255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 172.16.0.4  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

Thanks for your help, now how would you analyze this?
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2003-06-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK John, I'm an honours graduate bin ENGLISH< from an english uni too. I'm an expert 
on English. Dear
Boy, I don't know what is "meaningful" to you, I don't know you. If you write that 
kind of thing to
newbies it puts them off, hurts their feeling and you'll have lost another convert to 
Linux, is that
what you want? What you call "netiqutte"demands one uses topic and task specific 
questions, ala REDHAT
documentation conventions which stop me from getting the hang of things. It has some 
4200 commands, do
you imagine people can "meaningfully" stuff that between the ears on just reading a 
doc file?

by "meaning" you mean what you know.
Agreed that's what I am trying to grok. Meaning is the wrong word, you mean Redhat 
definitions of terms
and its ways of doing things.
What stops me is that I am a newbie to REDHAT jargon, which you know rather well, and 
I not at all. I am
not a newbie in several other areas, linguistics one of them. IE I don't grok any of 
the REDHAT jargon
and actions inside REDHAT, you do.
I gave the explanation in the first newbie post to anaconda, but that seems to get 
some huff going and
talk about MY english, when I complained about yours being - as in Alice in Wonderland 
- inpenetrable TO
ME.  That does not measn I'm stupid, because I know what causes this. The style of the 
handbooks.

WHY Billy Gates is pop is because he does it so one needs no computer jargon. Redhat 
works ONLY with
computer jargon. It's like learning a foreign language which I know quite well how to 
do, but in the
case of REDHAT them rules don't work because computers are morons.

In order to get meanings across to newbies DON'T use jargon FAMILIAR to you, newbies 
don't grok that,
and which fills up FAQs and lists and helpfiles.
Find some metaphor, image, slang phrase, whatever but NOT jargon to explain Jargon. I 
used to teach DOS
and programmers got the horrors and the students liked it. I have friends expert on 
software design and
hardware and we communicate rather well. It's just that they are very busy filling 
orders.

If you block things they don't get through.

Adrian.


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To: "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: newbie


> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> >
> > 1) use a meaningful subject.  i have already configured my procmail
> >filter to scrap postings that say simply "help" or "urgent" (and,
> >now, "newbie" :-).
>
> I'm easily persuaded;-)
>
> :0:junk
> * ([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])
> /dev/null
>
> I've seen HTML email that didn't contain an  tag. kmail doesn't
> cope well with it.
>
>
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Re: newbie

2003-06-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is that what the "WELcome" means in Linux, do it? Charming way to be made to feel 
welcome. You demand I
understand you, but the compliment is not returned. Is that what happens when one 
gives FEEDBACK,
mentioned in every doc?

I read the intro to anaconda on redhat and NOW I get what is MADE conventional to the 
anaconda list. Did
I use any rude words or did you mean not stepping on your toes, pardom me? OR paying 
deference to you?
HOW well do you know me?

SYNOPSIS: ALL languages, cultures, specialised jargon, math, computerese are CLOSED 
systems in which
every word is explained by every other words INSIDE that system. That's also why win 
and RH don't
interact too well without a translator installed with mount. "mount" usually means 
"climb" but not in
Linix.

FI  BUG in Windows means the PC hangs and in Linux it means it don't work as well as 
it can, so fix it.
BUG in computerese derives from Eniac when a bug caused a short in the battery of 
glass radio bulbs, by
metaphoric extension of "you bug me". BUG is slang, not proper English, which calls 
them insects.

Now who will HELP me with MY problem, you've been pretty loud about yours.

My currently main neurosis with Red Hat right now is which order does one do things to 
customise.  1st
one makes directories, then subdirectories and after that mounts certain packages, 
-programs, etc to
me - now HOW does one MOUNT  - which does not mean sit on the Monitor. I've read the 
white handbook and
all the docs on the frisbie and there one finds TOPICAL help but not in wuyhich order 
to proceed. The
reason for that I explained before, it's the style and convention of use in writing 
docs.

Adrian.


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To: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: newbie


> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, John wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks, totally new to L Rh, be warned 
> > >
> > > cool. then the first lesson you should learn is to use a meaningful
> > > subject line.
> >
> > Taking some care over your English wouldn't hurt either. I gave up on
> > it.
> >
> > And, pls wrap your lines at about 72 chars: a lot of us read email in an
> > 80-char window, and lines that are one and a half lines long are very
> > aggravating.
>
> without getting into specifics, i already got an offline blast from
> the original poster, complaining about my lack of tact or social grace
> (or something to that effect) regarding chastising newbies for a
> breach of normal mailing list etiquette.  (part of his defense was
> that i should have cut him some slack as he was a newbie.  i
> will not even get into the internal contradictions involved in
> a self-proclaimed mailing list "newbie" on an anaconda development
> mailing list. :-)
>
> anyway, even newbies have an obligation to understand the most
> basic rules for ML etiquette.  to wit, a short summary:
>
> 1) use a meaningful subject.  i have already configured my procmail
>filter to scrap postings that say simply "help" or "urgent" (and,
>now, "newbie" :-).
>
> 2) wrap lines at ~72 columns.  you may use a microsoft mailer.
>there's no reason *we* have to suffer for it.
>
> 3) do not top post.
>
> 4) do not post in HTML.  no, this is not negotiable.  (and yes,
>my procmail filter tosses any posting whose first line is
>"").
>
> 5) remove unnecessary content from your responses.  as in, be
>brief, concise and specific.
>
>
> there's more, but this is generally considered to be a good start.
>
> rday
>
> p.s.  and why don't i use upper case?  because i was told years
> ago that unix was a lower-case operating system.  i took that
> literally. :-)
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Re: Hi

2003-06-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, I finally got to the gnome and have been thru all the bits on the menu, tried 
to do a customise,
red the help & info and there I am stuck, because I cannot get Konqueror, Nautilus, 
etc to install and
work,  nor can update or get an ISP connection - tried twice - as on logout it told me 
could not "save"
my settings.

So I need to know the order in which to customise things to get going. I made a Name 
directory in /bin.
which directories first, and what then? All I want for starters is to email, surf and 
write pretty text,
save it read it, etc.  In the bootloader do ZI enter "single user" in the first or 
second file?

Also the jokers on anaconda got huffy about my English and netiquette, haha. They seem 
to lack a sense
of humour.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: Hi


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> I'll do a custom today with format and see, the screen worked before. Did
> not format last one on auto.
>
> Adrian.

You mentioned you did not do a format before you installed RH, which I'd
always recommend. AFAIK your hardware should work fine with 8.0. Try
formatting and see if it works, and keep us posted on your progress...

Good Luck!

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Re: Hi (response to red hat list comments)

2003-06-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DO I reply to psyche or your address? pliz reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  and wipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] OFF

Sure,

Had several problems installing REDHAT, but finally managed to get to gnome.  In gnome 
I try to get
customised, YEAH IRTDD, which is topic and task specific. Cannot get gnome to let me 
customise obviously
because I don't know the order of doing this, which is not explained in docs or white 
book or on
frisbie. I now want to set up in biz, which, for me, needs email ISP to surf, where 
tyo poke files, etc
and how to get Nautilus, and whatever other guis around to gawp at to decide which lot 
I want. When I
logout it tells me it won't save what I tried, and >GG> maybe just as well. I cannot 
get past gnome, it
asks for all manner of things I don't understand the jargon of and reading help and 
info does not work
as I don't know which task specific items to do in which order. It also cannot read 
the sound card nor
the PCI USB on the Motherboard. For test sound one gets zilch. Not that I mind too 
much about that.

Which details do you need?

It won't recognise the WINlucent #2 - Agere - other than as a default "genetic" which 
loses the fax and
voice features, so I'll probably get another Modem, I suppose.
 I have winsleaze v 98.2.4 An Asrock g-pro Mboard at Intel 1800 MHZ, use bootloader 
GRUB. Cannot update
to get errata and RH 9.0 going. I managed to make a usr dir in /bin, now what?


I also got an utterly charming welcome on Anaconda - got my head bitten off - as the 
learned gentlemen
imagine they are the only ones whose "english" is kosher. They jump into the usual 
ingrown toenail
prejudices that if THEY don't understand it, it MUST be nonsense and I'm to blame, 
haha. But that's mere
trivia but done since RH asks for feedback.

Adrian.

- Original Message - 
From: "LPH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Hi (response to red hat list comments)


> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:28:54 +1200
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I finally got to the gnome and have been thru all the bits on the menu, 
> > tried to do a
customise,
> > red the help & info and there I am stuck, because I cannot get Konqueror, 
> > Nautilus, etc to install
and
> > work,  nor can update or get an ISP connection - tried twice - as on logout it 
> > told me could not
"save"
> > my settings.
> >
> > So I need to know the order in which to customise things to get going. I made a 
> > Name directory in
/bin.
> > which directories first, and what then? All I want for starters is to email, surf 
> > and write pretty
text,
> > save it read it, etc.  In the bootloader do ZI enter "single user" in the first or 
> > second file?
> >
>
> Adrian,
>
> I'm sorry that I missed most of this thread.  Can you fill me in on the details of 
> your experiences?
>
> Assumptions: You tried to install Red Hat 8.0 on a computer and something went wrong 
> - or - it all
installed and now you are trying to use it.
>
> Please realize that Red Hat Linux is GNOME desktop centric. Nautilus is the prefered 
> file manager for
GNOME. Konqueror is the file manager (and web browser) for KDE (another fine desktop 
environment).
Depending on how you are logging into your session - you may choose GNOME or KDE - or 
even another
window manager (blackbox, IceWM, etc). Regardless, applications written for GNOME or 
KDE may work while
under either desktop but the menus may not show them.
>
> Try this trick I showed my daughters.  Press the key combination Alt-F2 (the alt key 
> and F2 function
key) and a "mini-CLI" or dialog box called "Run Program" should appear. Mini-CLI is 
KDE jargon for
Miniature Command Line Interface (clever but annoying). Type in the word "Nautilus" 
[without the quotes]
and press Enter. Spelling, spacing and capitalization count. Nautilus should appear 
(albeit slowly). You
can do the same by pressing Alt-F2 and typing the word "Konqueror". However, you would 
have to have
chosen the KDE desktop to install during the install phase of Red Hat for this to work.
>
> Now, if you haven't created a user for yourself then please do not use root. 
> Instead, start a session
using root, create the user [adduser "name"], log out as root, and then log in as the 
new user you just
created. This user will have a "home" in /home/nameofuser.
>
> Let's start there and then please let me know how I may help. You may reach me using 
> MSN Messenger -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll try to walk you through a few things. Since your email 
states Outlook then
I'm assuming you have an available and working MS Windows machine. That is -- if you 
have the machine
connecting to the internet with an instant messenger -- and then the Linux box 
available to tinker with
while we are chatting.
>
> Yes, Linux can be a nasty bear with a language all its own ;)
>
> LPH


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A simple question on mouse

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi all folks,

USB Optical mouse
=

After booting up the PC the captioned mouse has not been detected.  What
command line shall be used to activate it instead of to reboot the PC?

TIA

B.Regards
Stephen Liu




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