Descriptives: Large Numbers and Variable Labels

2012-03-01 Thread Eliana
Hello,

I am very new to PSPP, and need help getting some basic things to
work.  I am excited to have found a free package I can run that is so
basically simple to use.I am running version 0.7.8 on Fedora 12 on
the command line.

I am working with DNA data, with START and STOP being precise
locations on a chromosome, up  to 9 digits.  My basic input starts
with the following:

 GET DATA /TYPE=TXT   /FILE='my.csv'   /ARRANGEMENT=DELIMITED
/DELIMITERS="," /FIRSTCASE=2  /VARIABLES=
 NAME1 A30
 NAME2 A30
 CHROM F2
 START  F9
 STOP F9
 SIZE  F5.2
 SNPS  F4.

My data looks like this:

NAME,MATCHNAME,CHROMOSOME,START LOCATION,END LOCATION,CENTIMORGANS,MATCHING SNPS
John Adams,Sam Jones,1,179653274,202477373,20.82,5100
John Adams,George Smith,1,233181217,245329248,25.87,3742

When I run DESCRIPTIVES, the MINIMUM and MAXIMUM are indicated in
scientific notation rather than the precise values that I need for
START and STOP.  I have not been able to figure out how to change that
to the F9.0 output format I need.   Unless I missed it, the largest
range size field for all operations seems to be F8.2 from what I see
in the manual,  that is not working for my data set that requires F9.

DESCRIPTIVES
 /VARIABLES=CHROM START STOP  SIZE  SNPS
 /FORMAT=LABELS
 /STATISTICS=ALL.

I also expect to be creating variables containing the midpoint of
START and STOP using COMPUTE, and if I want to look at statistics or
print those, something like F11.2 will be needed.

I also have not found a way to get variable labels into the descriptives output.

Here is what I would like that creates error messages wherever I put
it.  I have tried with and without the slash before NAME1.

  VARIABLE LABELS
 /NAME1 'PRIMARY KIT'
 /NAME2 'MATCH NAME'

Where do Variable Labels statements go?  I have not been able to find
an example anywhere.

Thank so much,
Eliana

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Re: Descriptives: Large Numbers and Variable Labels

2012-03-03 Thread Eliana
Dear John,

Thank you very much, both of those now work fine for me.

But I am confused.  I find the following in both the old user manual
for 0.6.2 and on page 27 of the user manual for 0.7.9, is it not true
that one can end a command by following the final one of the lines
containing its subcommands, with a blank line?

4.2 Forming commands of tokens

"... A blank line, or one that consists only of white space or
comments, also ends a command by default"

Thanks,
Eliana

On 3/1/12, John Darrington  wrote:...

> When I run DESCRIPTIVES, the MINIMUM and MAXIMUM are indicated in
>  scientific notation rather than the precise values that I need for
>  START and STOP.  I have not been able to figure out how to change that
>  to the F9.0 output format I need.   ...
>
> At the top of your syntax file, write:
>
> SET FORMAT F9.
>...
>  I also have not found a way to get variable labels into the
> descriptives output.
>
>  Here is what I would like that creates error messages wherever I put
>  it.  I have tried with and without the slash before NAME1.
>
>VARIABLE LABELS
>   /NAME1 'PRIMARY KIT'
>   /NAME2 'MATCH NAME'
>
>
>  Where do Variable Labels statements go?  I have not been able to find
>  an example anywhere.
>
> It works for me (the first NAME*) should not have a /  but your example
> above
> doesn't have a terminating .  That is important.
>

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Re: Problems with display

2012-03-03 Thread Eliana
If you need to use the output for a presentation soon, a quick
workaround would be to use short variable names without labels, and
create a separate table showing variable names and labels, that would
serve as a key to the histogram.

Eliana

On 3/1/12, Bill Chadkirk  wrote:
> ...
> When I try do display a histogram with a normalising curve the x-axis labels
> are compacted and overwritten making them impossible to read. Is there a
> solution?

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Re: Spanish Edition (was: PSPP-BUG: Request for help...)

2012-03-14 Thread Eliana
Dear Ramon,

Your inquiry was forwarded to the PSPP USERS mailing list, and you may
wish to subscribe via  the url provided at the bottom of this message.
 Then, please reply to the pspp-users@gnu.org list so you can get more
feedback from mailing list subscribers.

I would  imagine that the pspp team would welcome someone who could
help create another language interface.

But since that does not seem to be available yet (and someone correct
me if I am wrong), then I tried to find other free statistical
software for Linux you could use.

It would help to know what level of statistics and types of procedures
you are needing, but here is what I found.

A program called ViSta is difficult to find a working download page,
the only one I could find for Linux is an early version which is
buggy.  You could write the author.

 ViSta: The Visual Statistics System
 http://forrest.psych.unc.edu/research/vista-frames/unixvista.html

R does have Spanish documentation, and a very active mailing list.

CRAN: Contributed Documentation
 http://cran.r-project.org/other-docs.html

But something else you might want to consider is GenStat, which is
available for free for qualifying individuals, including educators in
developing countries.  It says there is Linux available.

GenStat Discovery | VSN International

 http://www.vsni.co.uk/es/software/discovery/genstat-discovery

Two other options that I can think of are:

1.  Use PSPP in English, providing your students with a link to the
web based  PSPP Users Manual, which they could read using Google
Translate or whatever translation engine they prefer.

  
http://pspp.benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/latest/user-manual/html_node/index.html

However,  the web version does not seem to have  been set up with html
 CODE tags, at this point (I tested with translate.yahoo.com and
translate.google.com).   Those are html tags that tell translation
engines not to translate the text indicated.

Without those tags, translation engines happily translate commands
into the foreign language, totally disregarding their sanctity and
rendering the translation very confusing.

 Insertion of CODE tags is something that should be considered if it
has not already been added as a feature of the online manual.   (NOTE
to PSPP team:  adding these tags is not a  trivial project, but
requires no knowledge of any foreign language, and I believe would
render the online manual a meaningful document for a larger portion of
the international community without requiring developing separate
ports for each language.)

2.  The other option which I would expect is already available in
Spanish, would be to have your students learn how to use the
statistical functions provided in whatever free spreadsheet program is
included with your Ubuntu Distribution.  If none is included,  Open
Office Calc is free software that will run on Linux and does include
many statistical functions.

Eliana

On 3/13/12, RriveraP  wrote:
> Hello:
> Perhaps it si not de right e-mail addres for this purpose but I
> sincerally request for your help.
> I am an statistics teacher and allways used SPSS 11.5 over windows
> platform and we decided to use GNU PSPP instead.
> Now we are facing a terrible trouble, it means the language.
> All the version founded are absolutely in english.
> We need solve this problem and start teaching stistics using free software.
> I forgot to say we use GNU/Linux ubuntu 10.04.
> We would like to recive at least an answer about this.
> We thank you.
> Best reagards.
> Lic. Ramon Rivera Peque??o
>

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Re: Spanish Edition (was: PSPP-BUG: Request for help...)

2012-03-14 Thread Eliana
On 3/14/12, John Darrington  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:06:17AM -0800, Eliana wrote:
>
> In fact there is a spanish translation (I presume Spanish is what Ramon
> wanted).  You can see a current list of all available translations and
> how complete they are at http://translationproject.org/domain/pspp.html

Wow!  Since the search engines do not seem to have gotten the point,
let me say here for the benefit of others looking for foreign language
versions,  that the above page has links to add ons (is that the right
word?) that will generate PSPP's error messages in Brazilian
Portuguese,  Catalan, Dutch, French, German, Lithuanian , Slovenian,
and Spanish.

But where does someone go to find out how to install these and get
them recognized by PSPP?

>  >However,  the web version does not seem to have  been set up with html
>  > CODE tags, at this point (I tested with translate.yahoo.com and
>  >translate.google.com).   Those are html tags that tell translation
>  >   engines not to translate the text indicated.
>
> This is a very good point.  We should fix that.  Could you please open a bug
> report so that we don't forget about it.

Can I do that via email or must it be done via the web?  Also, should
I also open a bug report with suggestions about improving search
engine awareness of the foreign language versions?  There needs to be
some mention of the other languages on the home page.

Also, the link on the PSPP home page that goes to a Blog in "en"
actually leads me to what I think is the Brazilian Portuguese version
of the blog.

Is that 3 bug reports?

Eliana

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Re: Does PSPP works with Windows networks?

2012-06-24 Thread Eliana
On 6/23/12, Ivan de Paula  wrote:
> ... I am interested in using  PSPP for a database created in SPSS, I would 
> like
> to know
> if this software including Windows networking features so this database
> could be accessed for
> more than a user at the same time.

Whether you can do what you want with PSPP on Windows depends on
exactly what you want to do.  Please explain  in more detail what you
would like to be able to do.

I am thinking that if you want other people to be able to see what you
are doing with the database, while you are working in PSPP, it might
be possible to do something using shared sessions in VNC (Virtual
Network Computing).

But I do not know Windows at all, and  I do not know if VNC and the
file system in Windows  can be set up so that only one user has write
access.

Eliana

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Re: This GNU PSPP in Spanish doesn�Lt exist

2013-03-09 Thread Eliana
Salud,

You need to say what kind of portable computer you have, if you want
help.  PSPP can be compiled for other architectures, but there needs
to be enough interest and someone willing to do the work.

What kind of operating system and version?

Is there an English version available for your computer?

On 3/7/13, Uv Rre  wrote:
> http://pspp.michelboaventura.com/es/descarga/?lang=es
> This GNU PSPP in Spanish doesn�Lt exist for no portable computers as mine.

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