pspp-1.6.0 released, 1.6 windows

2022-06-15 Thread someone 
John, 
Thanks for your comments.
As a, i guess, not expert user, I would look at the main 
pagehttps://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/
and I see the top line of the PSPP part has these options
   
   - PSPP Home
    
   - Download
    
   - Quick Tour
    
   - FAQ
    
   - Doc
   -   
   


I would assume that the "Download" part is where I go to download the 
"official" version. But that isn't right?

"Right at the top of this page, there is a link which tells you the various 
ways to get GNU software (including PSPP)."I'm not really clear on this.  Where 
are you pointing?

"Also, note, the sentence "We do not distribute precompiled binaries for PSPP". 
Any binaries that you download (from anywhere) are not "official" in any sense 
of the word."Well, on the 'get' page, this sentence ("We do not distribute ..." 
is right below "GNU Linux".Again, I'm not an expert user, so I kind of assumed 
that didn't apply to Windows. I thought Linux was another OS, so this just 
applied to GNU Linux. 
And I guess I'm kind of confused. At the lower part of the main page is the 
section "Downloading PSPP" which says "As with most GNU software, PSPP can be 
found on the main GNU ftp server: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp/  ..."I don't 
understand what "We do not distribute precompiled binaries ..."  What is a 
precompiled binary, and what is being distributed on the GNU ftp server? I 
guess that's an -un-compiled binary?

Could I make some suggestions?
On the get page, move this to just above "Binaries""We do not distribute 
precompiled binaries of PSPP. Computers come with so many different 
archtectures, kernels, operating systems that it would not be feasible for us 
to do so. "
and add something like, "However, a number of people have kindly compiled PSPP 
into various operating systems. Their compiled versions are described below.
and add the same two sentences to the main page, in the download PSPP section, 
instead of "There are some additional ways you can download or otherwise obtain 
PSPP."

Thanks
Gene

-Original Message-
From: John Darrington 
To: someone 
Cc: tuna.is.good.for@gmail.com ; 
public@gmail.com ; pspp-users@gnu.org 

Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2022 12:50 am
Subject: Re: pspp-1.6.0 released, 1.6 windows

The "official" download page is and always has been https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp

The "get PSPP" page https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html which you 
mentioned provides unofficial hints about other possible download possibilities.

Right at the top of this page, there is a link which tells you the various ways 
to get GNU software (including PSPP).

Also, note, the sentence "We do not distribute precompiled binaries for PSPP". 
Any binaries that you download (from anywhere) are not "official" in any sense 
of the word.

To summarize:

1. https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp is the official download page.
2. https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html provides information which we 
hope will be useful for you.

J'




On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:27:10AM +, someone wrote:
    Hi all
    In my website, https://sites.google.com/site/gsocialchange/statsoft and in 
my report https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4105959I'd like 
to list the most recent version on the 'official'  or main download page  
http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html
    I could list the nightly download page, but I'm much prefer to list the 
main download page, especially since the main download page says "The windows 
installers for nightly builds are untested nightly builds."
    Unless this wording could change?
    thanks
    gene

Re: pspp-1.6.0 released, 1.6 windows

2022-06-15 Thread Oren Ish-Shalom 
It seems that a bird's eye view of the problem is:

- many pspp *windows users*
- pspp windows users will have a *hard time building pspp from source*
- for those users, the *source distributions* are (in many ways)
*irrelevant*
- for those users, the only (?) way to go is a *windows installer*

I will be *happy to help* improving windows user installations

- I am an experienced linux developer
- how can I help?





On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 00:17, someone  wrote:

> John,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> As a, i guess, not expert user, I would look at the main page
> https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/
>
> and I see the top line of the PSPP part has these options
>
>
>- PSPP Home 
>- Download 
>- Quick Tour 
>- FAQ 
>- Doc 
>-
>
>
>
> I would assume that the "Download" part is where I go to download the
> "official" version. But that isn't right?
>
>
> "Right at the top of this page, there is a link which tells you the
> various ways to get GNU software (including PSPP)."
> I'm not really clear on this.  Where are you pointing?
>
>
> "Also, note, the sentence "We do not distribute precompiled binaries for
> PSPP". Any binaries that you download (from anywhere) are not "official"
> in any sense of the word."
> Well, on the 'get' page, this sentence ("We do not distribute ..." is
> right below "GNU Linux".
> Again, I'm not an expert user, so I kind of assumed that didn't apply to
> Windows. I thought Linux was another OS, so this just applied to GNU Linux.
>
> And I guess I'm kind of confused. At the lower part of the main page is
> the section "Downloading PSPP" which says
> "As with most GNU software, PSPP can be found on the main GNU ftp server:
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp/  ..."
> I don't understand what "We do not distribute precompiled binaries ..."
> What is a precompiled binary, and what is being distributed on the GNU ftp
> server? I guess that's an -un-compiled binary?
>
>
> Could I make some suggestions?
>
> On the get page, move this to just above "Binaries"
> "We do not distribute precompiled binaries of PSPP. Computers come with so
> many different archtectures, kernels, operating systems that it would not
> be feasible for us to do so. "
> and add something like,
> "However, a number of people have kindly compiled PSPP into various
> operating systems. Their compiled versions are described below.
>
> and add the same two sentences to the main page, in the download PSPP
> section, instead of "There are some additional ways you can download or
> otherwise obtain PSPP."
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Gene
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Darrington 
> To: someone 
> Cc: tuna.is.good.for@gmail.com ;
> public@gmail.com ; pspp-users@gnu.org <
> pspp-users@gnu.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2022 12:50 am
> Subject: Re: pspp-1.6.0 released, 1.6 windows
>
> The "official" download page is and always has been
> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp
>
> The "get PSPP" page https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html which
> you mentioned provides unofficial hints about other possible download
> possibilities.
>
> Right at the top of this page, there is a link which tells you the various
> ways to get GNU software (including PSPP).
>
> Also, note, the sentence "We do not distribute precompiled binaries for
> PSPP". Any binaries that you download (from anywhere) are not "official" in
> any sense of the word.
>
> To summarize:
>
> 1. https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp is the official download page.
> 2. https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html provides information which
> we hope will be useful for you.
>
> J'
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 04:27:10AM +, someone wrote:
> Hi all
> In my website, https://sites.google.com/site/gsocialchange/statsoft and
> in my report https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4105959I'd
> like to list the most recent version on the 'official'  or main download
> page  http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/get.html
> I could list the nightly download page, but I'm much prefer to list
> the main download page, especially since the main download page says "The
> windows installers for nightly builds are untested nightly builds."
> Unless this wording could change?
> thanks
> gene
>