[PLUG] usb devices on MDK 10.0

[jayant ogale]

HI,
I have my pc installed in a duel boot mode. win xp and
mandrake 10.0
i have following four USB devices.
1] USB printer - HP desk jet 3845
2] USB scanner - HP scan jet 2400
3] USB external modem - D-link DU 560M
4] USB laser printer - CAnnon LBP 3200.
while installing mdk 10.0 all these devices were
attached to the computer and were switched on.
unfortunately none of them configured/installed
automatically.
i tried to install them with MCC, but i could not do
so. System detects it but doesnot install.
please let me know what should be done.
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[PLUG] system boot up time of mandriva LE 2005.

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have installed mandriva LE 2005 on IBM T40P.
it takes painfully long time to boot up the system. It
practically halts at "starting Portmapper" message.
i have two questions.
1] why it takes more time? i believe that this is same
as MDK 10.2.
2] is there any way out to speed up the booting?
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Re: [PLUG] What is wrong and what we need tp know.

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:26:20 +0530
From: Manas Alekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PLUG] What is wrong and what we need tp
know.
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Hello All!

This is Manas Alekar. I have been on the PLUG list for
some time now.
I have been following lots of mail about mailing
etiquette and
behaviour of people on the mailing list in general.

There are some misunderstandings on this list which
are leading to
waste of a lot of bandwidth at all our places. The
battle seems to be
between two factions, the 'power users' and the
'newbies'. I am firmly
entrenched in between both camps :).

I AM HAPPY THAT,YOU HAVE FRAMED THE PROBLEM CORRECTLY.
IF YOU DONT MIND,I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMEMORE TO IT.

The newbies seem to complain all the time that;
1. There is too much RTFM.
2. The big boys are rude.
3. The answers are not much help except people proving
they are smart.

THESE POINTS OF NEWBIES ARE RIGHT. 

Thinking from the point of a newbie, I agree, that
undertones such an
attitude might seem present in the mails of some of
the people.

EXPERTS SIDE IS NOT ALL THAT CONVINCING.

The experts always complain that;
1. The newbies don't do their homework.

YOUR DEFINATION OF HOMEWORK MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN
THAT OF NEWBIES.

2. The newbies don't know how to ask (which is just
[1] in the first 
place).

SO THEY ARE CALLED AS NEWBIES.

3. We got RTFM at some point in past, and we did not
mind it!
 
SOMEONE HAS TO STOP THE RAGGING CYCLE.[WHY NOT WE?]

The saddest part of the story is that they seem to be
correct in their
own rights too.

I BEG TO DISAGREE.

I have a slightly different take on this though. This
looks more to me
like a problem of newbies are from Mars, experts are
from Venus. We
seem to speak different languages.

It is important for the newbies to understand that
every community has
a way of functioning. The rules that govern the
behaviour mandated
from it's members are not born out of whimsical
personal fancies, but
out of evolution. They help the community flourish and
be efficient. A
lot has been learnt from experience and some axioms
are best followed
rather than questioned.

Bottom posting in mailing lists and being polite are
two such
examples. The abstraction from human interface that
the Internet
provides should not be abused. Talk to people on the
list the way you
would talk to them in person. Realise that most people
could be your
father's age or way more adept at things being
discussed than you are.
It is not *cool* to be abusive. Full stop.

Secondly, it is really unfair to ask a question just
because you were
too tired to look for an answer yourself.

SO CALLED EXPERTS ALSO ASK QUESTIONS WHICH MORE
EXPERTS  CAN SAY RTM. **I INSIST ON RTM**. 

 Although I agree that
collective experience should be made useful to the
members of the
community, in communities like ours, it is not exactly
appreciated if
you ask for help without trying yourself first. In
other communities,
such behavioral patterns might get characterised as
*looser*.

That said, there is one more very important thing that
people need to
understand. RTFM _is not_ Read The Fucking Manual. It
stands for Read
The Fine Manual.

PLEASE DONT FOOL YOURSELF.[FINE DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING].

 Please remember that this is not intended to be
derogatory way of looking down upon newbies. It is
just a way quick,
efficient way for a person who found the relevant
information in the
manual to tell you that it exists there. It means -
"Well, I know that
this information is given in the manual. Can you just
look it up, so
that we can save my time and our bandwidth ?". Don't
feel offended at
RTFM. Similar is the situation with GG.

Lastly, the mailing list admin is our friend. He is
here to help us
run a more productive list. If you want to take up an
issue with him
or want to know why your mails are not going through,
you can always
mail him. It might be a trivial settings mistake which
he made by
mistake. He is human.

As for the experts, can you guys be more humane
towards the mortals ? 
I know newbies waste a lot of your time and ask stupid
looking
questions, but in forgiving lies greatness.

That said, if anyone thinks that they disagree with
what I have said,
*sod off*. :))
THANKS AGAIN TO PUT THE PROBLEM PROPERLY. I WISH WE
SHOULD HAVE A FULL LENGTH DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC IN
OUR MONTHLY MEETING AND TRY TO FIND OUT SOME GOLDEN
MEAN SOLUTION.

Regards,
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[PLUG] internal modem cofig. problem

[jayant ogale]

Hi,
i have sony vaiio vgn-s4m lap-top with an internal
modem V90.
previously i had installed mdk 10.0 on it, and
configured/installed this modem using
slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz.
this was working fine.
recently i installed mandriva 2006 [deleting mdk10.0],
because i was told that as this is an advanced
version, this detects 
and installs most of the internal modem.
but it did not happened automatically. so i tried to
configure/install it with the same tar ball and it is
giving me errors
detailed as follows. please let me know what is this
error? and how to correct it?
also i would like to know that if sonething can be
easily done in earlier versions why it doesnt happen
in so called advanced versions?
thanks,
jayant.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] slmodem-2.9.10]# make
make -C modem all
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/jayant/slmodem-2.9.10/modem'
gcc -Wall -g -O -I. -DCONFIG_DEBUG_MODEM   -o modem.o
-c modem.c
modem.c: In function ‘modem_reset’:
modem.c:1701: error: invalid storage class for
function ‘sregs_init’
modem.c:1713: warning: implicit declaration of
function ‘sregs_init’
modem.c: At top level:
modem.c:1727: error: static declaration of
‘sregs_init’ follows non- static declaration
modem.c:1713: error: previous implicit declaration of
‘sregs_init’ w as here
make[1]: *** [modem.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/jayant/slmodem-2.9.10/modem'
make: *** [modem] Error 2
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[PLUG] adding combo box in spreadsheet

[jayant ogale]

hi,
while using open office spread sheet i want to make
one cell as a combo box or insert a combo box at that
place and insert some data to it [say 5 different
names to choose from].
pl. let me know how to do it step - by - step.
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[PLUG] problem of power switch off on the lap-top

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have installed mandriva 2007 on my sony s4m lap-top.
the os is running smoothly but there seems to be many
small problems.
1] even after enabling acpi, when the halt command is
given or even with the log off > switch off computer,
log is received up-to system halted and then nothing
happens [i mean power is not switched off]. i have to
do it mannually each time. what is the solution?
2] attached printer and scanner gets detected properly
but does not get installed / configured.
3] modem [HDAUDIO soft V-92] does not get installed.
4] wireless card is detected but does not get
installed.
somebody told me that if i installed the system from
the freely downlodable cds or the dvds which we get
along with some magazines, many of the so called
commercial drivers are not provided with these cds.
But if we purchase box-pack from the company we get
all these drivers with it.
is it true? if yes, what can we do about it?
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[PLUG] querry about mandriva usb flash drive

[jayant ogale]

Hi friends,
i am planning to buy mandriva usb flash drive. But
before that i want to get my doubts cleared. I had
written this mail to mandriva, but i have received no
response from them.
1] will this flash drive support all my internal and
periferal hardware like
   a] HD audio soft V 92 data fax\modem
with smart CP
   b] scanner – hp scanjet 3200
   c] printer epson – lq 1050
   d]will my wireless lan card get
configured automatically?
if not, what am i supposed to do?
2] if this flash drive is writeable, there is a
possibility of deletion of some software by error. Is
there any back-up dvd or partition provided with it?
3] how are we supposed to get root access on this?
4] is there a facility to install this o.s. on hard
disc?
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[PLUG] querry about usb flash drive

[jayant ogale]

hi,
my question is whether this usb version of mandrivs OR
any other distros / alternatives you are suggesting,
supports / installs my set of hardware or not.
jayant




Message: 1

Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:28:11 +0530
From: Nitin Madan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] querry about mandriva usb flash
drive
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jayant ogale wrote:
> Hi friends,
> i am planning to buy mandriva usb flash drive. But
> before that i want to get my doubts cleared. I had
> written this mail to mandriva, but i have received
no
> response from them.
> 1] will this flash drive support all my internal and
> periferal hardware like
>a] HD audio soft V 92 data fax\modem
> with smart CP
>b] scanner – hp scanjet 3200
>c] printer epson – lq 1050
>d]will my wireless lan card get
> configured automatically?
> if not, what am i supposed to do?
> 2] if this flash drive is writeable, there is a
> possibility of deletion of some software by error.
Is
> there any back-up dvd or partition provided with it?
> 3] how are we supposed to get root access on this?
> 4] is there a facility to install this o.s. on hard
> disc?
> Thanks,
> jayant
>   
Another suggestion would be to use something like
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb.html

Actually you could also do your own thing by
downloading the distro 
from
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/download.html

and then burning it on your usb key. I did it a long
time back; and if 
I 
remember right;
the only thing I had to do was to make the partition
bootable (set the 
bootable flag set using fdisk).

Follow these steps, if interested
http://www.althack.com/2006/03/10/how-to-run-linux-on-a-usb-drive/

There are other distro's available on the USB; just
google for them. 
The 
only real question is the use -
Mandriva has the support structure etc., if things
crash.

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[PLUG] xandros dvd

[jayant ogale]

i have a latest xandros desktop 4 dvd.
if anybody is interested pl. let me know.
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[PLUG] Re: xandros dvd

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> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:16:58 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] xandros dvd
> To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
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> 
> jayant ogale wrote:
> > i have a latest xandros desktop 4 dvd.
> > if anybody is interested pl. let me know.
> > jayant.
> 
> I don't think that's freely redistributable. Check
> the license.
yes, there is a free distribution version
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[PLUG] [commercial] business proposals / ideas invited

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i am having two shops, situated in the heart of the
city, on the main road.
area is about 650 sq. ft.
i am inviting business proposals for the utilisation
of the said place.
i have some ideas as follows.
1] computer training institute.
2] computer maintenence / repair workshop.
3] periferal and spares retail / wholesale.
4] mobile repairing / training.
5] bank ATM etc. etc.
ofcourse, other innovative ideas are welcomed. the
proposer should be fully interesed and accept the
responsibility to execute the same.
fresh graduates looking for some venture can be
considered.
i am not sure whether this is a right platform for
these kind of things.
please correct me, if necessary.
thanks,
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[PLUG] require sdram

[jayant ogale]

hi, 
i am having old pc with sdram [2 slots of 32 mb]
one of 32 mb is not working.
i am looking for old sdram 32mb / 64mb / 128mb
anything will do.
if someone is having it in his scrap box [with or
without payment] please let me know or bring it to our
plug meeting on saturday.
thanks in advance.
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[PLUG] Re: LINUX V5.0

[jayant ogale]

> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:08:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: manoj mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] Linux v5.0
> Certification Full-time
>   Training in Pune and Pimpri-Chinchwad
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> 
> $#$ Linux Certification training (LinuxCE) at very 
> resonable fees by Certified and 13 yrs experiened 
> trainer at "Certification Guru, Pimpri".
> $#$
> 
> Dear all,
> We are very happy to announce a new Full-Time 
> hands-on training for latest Certification on 
> Linux version 5.0.
I SEE, SO THE LINUX HAS STARTED PRODUCING VERSIONS
NOW!! 
>  
> 
> Linux Certification Training
>> 
> Please Note: 
> 1. We are not authorized training center (ATC) or
> not
> related to any company, from Linux or MS world.
> We are only committed to quality training, to give
> you
> a complete knowledge and make perfect administrator!
FOR WHICH VERSION OF LINUX?
> 
> 
> 2. Don't go for Certification only, it's only a
> piece
> of paper! Learn from experts to make your career
> success, with "Perfect-Knowledge of the System".
PEFECT KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH SYSTEM? 
> 
> 3. We use/distribute Enterprise-class Linux 
> Distribution called CentOS (http://centos.org/) for
> training. Our many students had appeared and got 
> Certified using this. You can visit to our office
> 
> Happy learning!
> 
> 
>
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[PLUG] [general] can we work from home?

[jayant ogale]

hi friends,
my friend has taken vrs recently. he came across many
advertisements like work from home on computer and
earn some money etc.
but when he actually tried, he was deceived by one way
or other. at times he was fooled and cheated totally.
he is well versed with Linux o.s.
does any-body has first hand information whether this
type of work exists? can we make some maoney working
from home? 
he has read something about google money as well. but
now he is scared to try.
if this whole thing is a fraud [in general], can we
spread awareness and make people alert about it?
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[PLUG] modem drivers required

[jayant ogale]

hi friends,
i was looking for linux drivers or firmwares for modem
& wireless card
1] MIM 2000/centrino wireless
2] 82801DB / DBL / DBM (ICH4 / ICH4 - l / ICH4 - M)
AC'97 modem controller.
i googled but could not find one.
if someone has, please send me the file [attachment] 
offline.
if you know the URL please send me the FULL url so
that i can click on it and straight download.
thanks.
I have a 4gb mandriva usb flash with usb bootable o.s.
on it.
if anybody is interested, give me 4gb pen drive and i
will copy it for you.
yet another problem :)
when i try to boot this o.s. on sony lap-top the
system hangs at the point 
starting HAL daemon.
what is this daemon? is there any way to circumvent
this problem?
asking for too much: am i?
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[PLUG] problem with modem configuration

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have a dial-up net connection.
when i tried to dial-up with kppp the responce was
modem is busy
and the log shows
opener:received open device
opener:received removelock
what does it mean? and how do i rectify it?
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[PLUG] error message ?

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have installed xandros desktop 4 on my vaio s4m
lap-top.
this is having v-92 modem.
when i configured the same and tried a dial-up
connection it failed.
it gave an error message as follows.
failed to run pon
the connect script failed (returned a non zero exit
status)
please let me know what does it mean and how do i
correct it?
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[PLUG] problem in dialling via modem

[jayant ogale]

hi,
when i was trying to dial-up net connection through
kppp in pclinuxos 2007, i received following error
log.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ kppp
Opener: received SetSecret
Opener: received SetSecret
Opener: received OpenLock
Opener: received OpenDevice
Opener: received RemoveLock
Opener: received RemoveSecret
Opener: received RemoveSecret
Opener: received OpenResolv
Opener: received OpenResolv
Opener: received KillPPPDaemon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
 and message in kppp was modem is busy.
what do i do to solve this ?
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[PLUG] problem with dial-up connection

[jayant ogale]

Hi,
i have installed Xandros -4 on my sony vaio VGN-S4M lap-top.
i have a dial-up network.
when i tried to connect to net via Xandros's dialer, the modem was detected and 
initiallised the phone number was dialled. after ATX commands i got the message
NO CARRIER
Connect Script Failed.
and the connection was terminated.
when i saw the error log, it says as follows.
failed to run pon (ppp client service.cpp=999)
the connect script failed (returned a non zero exit status).(ppp client 
service.cpp=997)
what should i do to get proper connection?
thanks for your time.
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[PLUG] free linux?

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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:31:02 +0530
> From: "Gaurav Pant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Need Suse 11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Pune GNU/Linux Users Group
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>   
> Message-ID:
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> live CD of OpenSuse 11 is available if that would
> serve your
> >> purpose...
> >>
> >
> > According to inside information, which I have, I guess
> Linux For You magazine is giving out 'free' DVD of
> Open SUSE 11 this month!
> 
> 
> Here we go with another one trying to confuse people
> between free and
> free.  Please put your statements correctly.
> I think you mean the DVD is available (free of cost) with
> LFY magzine
> (which one has to buy).
> 
> In any case you have to pay for it somewhere (nothing comes
> for free),
> 
> 
> > Swapnil
> >
> 
> Regards
> Dexter
> 
> i fully support your say. nothing is free in both the meanings of free.
even when i erite this mail or receive your reply that is also not free in both 
the senses.
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[PLUG] wvdial problem

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hi, 
my problem is explained in details here.
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[PLUG] running tally on linux

[jayant ogale]

hi,
when advocating for linux o.s.,in the business world, all the time, i
am facing the question of running tally on linux. i was listening to the
news of tally coming with a linux version.[but i do not think so].
so i can think of two options for me.
1] to run tally with crossover in xandros.
or
2] to run it with wine in mandriva.
has anybody actually tried it this way?
if yes, please arrange for its FULL demonstration in our next plug meeting.
or i will appreciate, if someone can show me how to do it in person. 
thanks,
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Re: [PLUG] running tally on linux

[jayant ogale]

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:24:13 +0530
From: ? 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] running tally on linux
To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List 
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On 09-Jul-09, at 8:01 PM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:

> On Thursday 09 July 2009 19:35:42 jayant ogale wrote:
>> hi,
>> when advocating for linux o.s.,in the business world, all the time, i
>> am facing the question of running tally on linux. i was listening  
>> to the
>> news of tally coming with a linux version.[but i do not think so].
>> so i can think of two options for me.
>> 1] to run tally with crossover in xandros.
>> or
>> 2] to run it with wine in mandriva.
>> has anybody actually tried it this way?
>
> Isn't there a tally rpm on the CD?

I don't remember whether its rpm or some other package manager, but I  
do remember tally 7.x used to work on linux.

- shantanoo
hi,
sorry for little harsh language.
i am looking for some concrete answer / solution.
my mail cleraly indicates that.
i have tried for the solution to my level best and then only i am writing this 
mail
sorry again,
jayant






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[PLUG] problem with mdv 2010

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have installed mdv 2010 on my lap top.
during installation - no problems.
after installation, when i tried to boot, login screen appears properly.
after login, all the messages like starting window manager etc. are seen.
then the GUI appears but nothing happens there after.
login music comes after about 3 minutes and there after screen freezes. i can 
see the hard disk running light on my lap top, hear the hard disc rotating 
sound continuously.
thereafter the only way out is physically switching off the power.
please let me know if there is any way out?
thanks,
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Re: [PLUG] [plug] Foss

[jayant ogale]

Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:39:35 +0530
From: Vipul Amler 
Subject: [PLUG] Foss
To: plug-mail@plug.org.in, uncodep...@googlegroups.com
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi all,i am from PICT,my college authorities have shown keen interest
for doing sumthng towards foss,for pune&beyond,funds no bar.so any1
interestd,may share your strangest ideas,or join d pilot later.wil
keep you'l informed bout d progres.
Cheers,
-- 
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+91-9764-596177
Registered Linux user #498451
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hi,
can you please write your mails in plain english language?
IT student is expected to know the importance of correct [programming] language.
jayant



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Re: [PLUG] orkut - Anand wants to be your friend on orkut! (Anand Jeyahar)

[jayant ogale]

--- On Mon, 17/5/10, plug-mail-requ...@plug.org.in 
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From: plug-mail-requ...@plug.org.in 
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Subject: [PLUG] orkut - Anand wants to be your friend on orkut!
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Hi sexy,

Anand Jeyahar (anand.ibm...@gmail.com) has requested to be your friend on  
orkut.

To confirm or reject this request go to
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is this mail is related to open source? 
moderater please wake up
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Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux

[jayant ogale]

> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:36:57 +0530
> From: Arun Khan 
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] ITR e-filing on Linux
> To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" 
> Message-ID:
>     
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mayuresh 
> wrote:
> > Income tax department provides MS Excel based software
> (Excel sheets) for
> > preparing income tax returns on this page:
> >
> > https://incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in/portal/individual_huf.do
> >
> > They state MS Excel as a system requirement for using
> this.
> >
> > If anyone has tried/succeeded in e-filing returns
> using this software on
> > Linux (using Openoffice / otherwise) please do post
> your experience.
> >
> > I could see that the file seems to open fine in oocalc
> and I could also
> > enable Macros which were disabled by default. Worry is
> more about
> > following aspects:
> >
> > - Functioning of all macros properly (non-working of
> some of which may
> > ?cause data integrity issues. Worse if such issues are
> hard to notice.)
> > - Generation of a "valid" xml file that will be
> loadable correctly on
> > ?e-filing website.
> 
> With the Indian e-Governance scene, typically the "aam
> janta" has no
> choice in this matter.   S/he is caught in a
> catch-22 situation -
> heads they win, tails you loose.
> 
> You can protest with the authorities, it they at all get
> back to you -
> the response will be "Everyone is using Windows and MS
> Office, aapke
> paas Windows nahi hai?"
> 
> There is some discussion going on about using open
> standards which
> includes document format but let's see how it
> progresses.   This is
> the kind of thing that encourages software piracy in my
> opinion.  In
> this case the Govt. is mandating it's citizens to use MS
> Windows
> desktop and the MS Office suite; kind of an endorsement of
> MS
> products)
> 
> I end up using my accountants Windows desktop to do such
> activities - YMMV.
> 
> -- Arun Khan
you can submit a writ petition under MRTP act against this indirect compaltion, 
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[PLUG] duel boot on macbook

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i am trying to install mandriva 2008 on my macbook laptop. it installs 
successfully, but at the last stage it says reboot. and when i press enter it 
hangs.
i tried xandros 4 also but with this distro in the initial stage only it says 
1] iso image not found 2] cd not found and hangs.
when i googled, it confused me more.
my question is 
1] is it possible to have duel boot  macbook [mac + linux]?
if yes, is it a simple procedure?
i would like to request anyone who has done it, to show a full demo in our next 
months meeting.
i will bring my mac and a distro required.
someone told me that you have to duel boot it with windows first and then in 
windows you can make linux duel boot. is it true?
thanks,
jayant


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[PLUG] duel boot on macbook

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i am trying to install mandriva 2008 on my macbook laptop. it installs 
successfully, but at the last stage it says reboot. and when i press enter it 
hangs.
i tried xandros 4 also but with this distro in the initial stage only it says 
1] iso image not found 2] cd not found and hangs.
when i googled, it confused me more.
my question is 
1] is it possible to have duel boot  macbook [mac + linux]?
if yes, is it a simple procedure?
i would like to request anyone who has done it, to show a full demo in our next 
months meeting.
i will bring my mac and a distro required.
someone told me that you have to duel boot it with windows first and then in 
windows you can make linux duel boot. is it true?
thanks,
jayant




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Re: [PLUG] Demo talk on Moodle at 4pm Tuesday at BPRIM

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   1. Demo talk on Moodle at 4pm Tuesday at BPRIM (Manjusha Joshi)


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From: Manjusha Joshi 
Subject: [PLUG] Demo talk on Moodle at 4pm Tuesday at BPRIM
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Announcement:
Under the project on Use of Open source software for Teaching Maths,
we are happy to announce:

Demo talk and hands workshop on Moodle, Free and Open Source Learning
Management System useful for Teachers
Time: 4-6 pm
Day and Date: Tuesday, 18th Jan, 2011
Venue: Bhaskracharya Pratishthana, Pune
Fees: No registration fees,
          please email to bhaskar...@vsnl.com to  confirm your
attendance. That will help us to arrange no. of  .
Who can attend:  Any one who is interpreted to know about the moodle.

No prerequisite!

===


Abstract:

Moodle is a 5-year old Free and Open Source Learning Management System
used for facilitating complete e-learning or blended learning
(supporting traditional learning with web-based tools) for various big
and small educational institutes like The Open University UK, IIT
Bombay and even primary and high schools.

Prof. Harshad Gune and his student Samarendra Manohar Hedaoo, both of
whom manage the Moodle at SICSR (Symbiosis College, Pune), will
conduct a hands-on workshop sharing their experiences in using Moodle
as a tool making life easier for teachers as well as student!

--
Manjusha S. Joshi
P.I. of project on Use of Open source software for Teaching Maths,
 http://fossme.bprim.org
Lecturer in Computational  Mathematics,
BIM, Pune, India. www.bprim.org
Mobile:  09822 319328
blog:http://manjushajoshi.wordpress.com/

-- 
Manjusha S. Joshi
P.I. of project on Use of Open source software for Teaching Maths,
?http://fossme.bprim.org
Lecturer in Computational? Mathematics,
BIM, Pune, India. www.bprim.org
Mobile:? 09822 319328
blog:http://manjushajoshi.wordpress.com/



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hi, 
i received this mail on 18h night. please tell me how one can attend this 
workshop?
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Re: [PLUG] usb drive bootable

[jayant ogale]

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:56:22 +0530
From: vivek kumar 
To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" 
Subject: [PLUG] usbdrive Bootable
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Dear All


how to usbdrive bootale in linux not a live usbdrive bootable. I want to
full linux install throw usbdrive any tool avable in linux so i create.


plz help me

which english is this?
jayant
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[PLUG] offline quillpad?

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i am looking for a software for writing in marathi like quillpad. if i am not 
mistaken, quillpad editor is avilable only online. 
is there any similar[easy to write], software avilable for offline working?
thanks,
jayant.
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Re: [PLUG] ITR filing w/o proprietary s/w

[jayant ogale]

That time of the year, when invariably this frustration arises in many
FOSS users' minds and invariably such discussion threads come up in
various mailing lists and die down.

Nobody knows how to change the system, or how to even wake it up to what
horrendous choice they have made by forcing to buy proprietary software.
They simply claim online return filing is "free".

Once in a while representations are made by FOSS enthusiasts' groups to
the Govt, some talk of PIL comes up and dies down.

Some enthusiasts have ported the forms to OpenOffice, but they have done
that only for one odd form for one odd year's version. Commendable effort
though not sufficient for all.

To complicate life, the forms do undergo minor revisions every year, and
even during a given return filing season. It's likely to undergo a major
revision whenever a new tax code comes into force.

Some (rather many) simply subscribe to paid online or offline services for
this purpose. The pain (I find) with this is, you still are responsible
for what they file and end up spending a good amount of time ensuring the
correctness and find annoying defects at times with what your vendor has
prepared as your IT return. You end up paying them for educating them at
times.



This year I'm starting this thread after the "return filing season" has
subsided, so that at least next year we can save the humiliation for
ourselves.

No, this time not suggesting PIL, representation to Govt and all.

Let's try to deal with it technically. What would it take to create the
"xml" that one has to finally upload be prepared by hand? Its schema is
available. What needs to be extracted from their Excel is some
auto-computed fields' rules and some validation rules. Is it possible to
reliably extract the macros from Excel forms and mimic them into an
offline utility?

Has anyone tried anything like that. (Salute to you if you have.)

Any ideas on this are welcome.

Mayuresh.


my openion is:- the solution to this problem is to file a writ petition in the 
public interest not only for IT returns but for all the govt. documents. court 
should make it compulsary foss compatibility , for all govt. sites. for that 
matter, if any of us is an advocate or any active advocate on the side of foss, 
should come forward and we will support him.
jayant
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Re: [PLUG] ITR filing w/o proprietary s/w

[jayant ogale]

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:33:59PM +0530, jayant ogale wrote:
> my openion is:- the solution to this problem is to file a writ petition in 
> the public interest not only for IT returns but for all the govt. documents. 
> court should make it compulsary foss compatibility , for all govt. sites. for 
> that matter, if any of us is an advocate or any active advocate on the side 
> of foss, should come forward and we will support him.
> jayant

Legal procedures require time and money. Advocates are unlikely to work
for free - unless some fresh law graduates want to grab this opportunity
for exposure or unless an advocate is a FOSS enthusiast/close kin of one
etc.

While above option is open, I'd still invite technical suggestions on
feasibility to extract the computational and validation rules embedded in
those Excels to help write utilities of our own - or at least manually
apply them and create the xmls.

My knowledge of MS Excel is virtually 0 and is likely to be so with many
members on this list - by very nature of the list. Still if someone has
any ideas on this, please do share.

Mayuresh.

one of my learned friend told me that we can take this issue to consumer forum 
as well. this is against MRTP act. and we being a consumer, we have a right to 
approch the forum. this will be less expensive as well as less time consuming. 
so any of the forum member is having a procedural experience about consumer 
forum, please take over.
jayant
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting for November 2011

[jayant ogale]

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> PLUG meeting for November 2011 is scheduled on Saturday 5th ?November,
>>> 5:30 pm @ SICSR
>>> (Note the change in timing. It is 5:30 pm instead of usual 4pm)
>>>
>>
>> Wow, a highly welcome change of scheduled time to start a meeting,
>> after so many long years...
>
> That is because of the exams in SICSR till 5 pm.
> We had similar change in timings in some earlier meetings also.
> Somehow, there is hardly any effect on the no. of attendees due to this.

An artist of International repute performing Indian Classical Music
once told in an interview, that no. of people attending my (read...
his) concert does not bother me (read.. him), because I (read.. he) do
not perform for them...

It is the internal bliss that is attained which is more important than
joy of performing in public

This communication therefore, in reference to the PLUG meetings, may
be called e-bliss!

-- 
?. Stupid question always warrants a stupid answer!
?. Why question the answer, unless question itself is the answer ?
?. No question is ever stupid!

my dear friend,
plug meeting is neither a performing art nor an entertaing event.
jayant

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[PLUG] info about plug meeting

[jayant ogale]

Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:04:04 +0530
From: Manjusha Joshi 
To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" 
Subject: [PLUG] PLUG meeting for March 2012 is scheduled on Saturday
3rd March. 5:00 pm @ SICSR
hi,
i have received this mail in the digest form on 5th mar. 12.
i am fully aware that the plug meeing is held on 1st saturday, i feel the 
confirmation should be mailed well in advance.
as you can see the 5 p.m. plug meeting info is posted 2 p.m. the same day?
jayant

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Re: [PLUG] [mailing-list] improving ease of use

[jayant ogale]

--- On Sun, 19/8/12, jayant ogale  wrote:

From: jayant ogale 
Subject: Re: plug-mail Digest, Vol 78, Issue 11
To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
Date: Sunday, 19 August, 2012, 1:13 PM


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:06:13 +0530
From: Amarendra Godbole 
To: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List" 
Subject: Re: [PLUG] [mailing-list] improving ease of use
Message-ID:
    
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Sunil Beta Baskar  wrote:
> Hello everyone at PLUG,
[...]
> Suggestions:
> Section 1 'before posting'
> * Item 5
> ** Linux documentation is available at http://tldp.org/
>     ref: http://www.linuxdoc.org the docbook archive and Q&A
>
> Section 2 'posting to the list'
> * Item 3
> ** Please give a link for newbies to understand what is 'top-posting'
> (everyone needs a HowTo post without violating list
 guidelines,
> however relaxed.)
> ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
>
> * Item 21
> ** Please give the administrator a maximum of 2-days [to permit moderated 
> posts]
> 'a day or two' is ambiguous.
>
> Reference for experts and mailing list administrators:
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html (RFC1855) - Netiquette including
> mailing lists (3.1.2)
>
> If the messages that have to be moderated are huge in volume, let us
> have more moderators.
> If SPAM is the issue, please consult us to get a better SPAM filter on-board.
[...]

I have some questions before any policy changes are made:
(a) Why should messages require a moderation in the first place? What
triggered the moderation?
 Most moderated lists are "restrictive", and
do not foster open collaboration.
(b) Why should top posting be "banned"? How do you expect a Linux
newbie in Pune to suddenly grow ascii email posting skills? If this is
the entry criteria, what is the real motive of PLUG?

Frankly, I am tired of the "restrictions to post" on PLUG, and as a
result don't even consider attending the monthly meets, or post useful
information.

Oh, and these restrictions are not "free as in freedom". ;-)

-ag

moderater draws a line between "swatantra" and "swairachar"
there might be a difference of openion about where this line should be. and 
this happens every where, in day-to-day issues.
jayant


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Re: [PLUG] mailing list issues

[jayant ogale]

Apart from a very few people on the list who are raising questions
about the mailing list, I have not come across anyone who is raising
the issue.

Well, it is upto the mailing list members to decide how the list
should work. If majority feels that it should be more open, let it be.
If all the filters and moderation bits are removed and the list
becomes completely open, I will be the
 happiest person as I will not
have to take any blames/bashing from anyone for things that I never
did, and/or was nowhere related to the activities. I have been facing
that blaming/bashing for more than 10 years now so as to keep the
integrity, confidentiality of the things.

Wishing you all a Very Happy New Year.

Regards
-Sudhanwa
hi,
as i have already said, this is an issue of "swatantra" and "swairachar".
one has to draw a line between, and the moderater does the same.
he/she
 is like a head of the joint family [probably a very big joint family]. 
every family member has a right to put is opinion, debate on it 
politely, but the ultimate decision is of the family head.
asking for freedom without any strings [or in your language ,openness] leads to 
a keos.
if
 the women ask for the unlimited freedom of dressing, movement etc. the 
men will ask their freedom for harrasment [you know what i mean].
jayant
 
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Re: [PLUG] [confirmation] PLUG meeting on 11th May, 4pm @SICSR

[jayant ogale]

--- On Sun, 5/5/13, plug-mail-requ...@plug.org.in 
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   1. Re: [confirmation] PLUG meeting on 11th May, 4pm @SICSR
      (Gaurav Pant)


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Hi,

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Manjusha Joshi wrote:

> Hello,*
>
> *PLUG meeting for month of  May  2013 is scheduled on next Saturday 11th
> May, 4:00 pm @ SICSR
>
>
I cannot understand why lately all PLUG meets announcements/rescheduling
are being made directly on the day when the meet is expected or at the most
1 day in advance.

Since most of the members understand that by default the PLUG meets are on
the 1st Saturday of the month, many people turn up for the meet and get
disappointed finding the meeting being rescheduled.

The PLUG meet announcement should be co-ordinated  and announced at least 1
week in advance.

Thanks  and Regards
Gaurav Pant.

when i gave this suggesstion last year, many members were shouting at me. on 
the top of it, they suggested that i sould take over this job of announcing the 
meet.
jayant ogale.
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[PLUG] require dvd

[jayant ogale]

hi friends,
i am looking for a live/installable dvd of "pingye o.s. - 64 bit version"
if anybody is having it i would like to get a copy.
or - otherwise
can someone download the iso image? [2.5 GB].because my net speed is 60 kbps. 
only.
thanks,
jayant ogale
ph.  -  9766889281
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[PLUG] live distro & wi-fi connectivity

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have tried many live distros. but in all distros i could not get wi-fi 
connectivity.
in all distros, only wired broadband connectivity was possible.
do you know any live distro with auto detectable wi-fi connectivity?
thanks,
jayant ogale.
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[PLUG] live distro wi-fi connectivity

[jayant ogale]

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:35:29 +0530
From: Mandar Vaze / ? ???  
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On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:47 PM, pavithran s  wrote:
> > On 13 October 2014 11:32, jayant ogale  wrote:
> >> i have tried many live distros. but in all distros i could not get
> wi-fi connectivity.
> >> in all distros, only wired broadband connectivity was possible.
> >> do you know any live distro with auto detectable wi-fi connectivity?
> >> thanks,
>

OP mentioned to me (private email) that he is using macbook pro - not "PC"
(I assume) like most of us.
I have suggested to him that he should try special "Mac" version of Ubuntu
(Haven't heard from him since)

-Mandar







hi,

as i have already written, i am using macpro 9.2 with i7 processor [don,t know 
about wi-fi card].

i have tried many ubantu versions [incliuding mac version].

in the process, i must have wasted more than 10 dvd's.

please let me know the exact link to download iso which will DEFINATELY work 
live, on my lap-top and identify all avilable wi-fi networks.

thanks,

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[PLUG] e-mail / communication privacy

[jayant ogale]

hi,recently read about dispute between wiki-leaks and Google.once again, the 
seriousness of the issue struck my mind.the privacy of the e-mail contents and 
communication in general is a serious issue.i think some time back we were 
discussing about it.in the laymans term:
is it possible for our community to start fully secured e-mail transactions? i 
do not mean that someone having that data and not giving it out to anyone at 
any cost but what i mean is that once i receive  / open a mail sent by a sender 
it will be only on my computer and will get automatically deleted from its 
travelling route [servers]. so that no one will be able to access it from any 
server.similarly no one should be able to get / store my browsing history?this 
idea might sound vague / absurd. but i think this is what many people / 
organisations will be looking for in the near future.thanks,jayant ogale.
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[PLUG] making sd bootable card

[jayant ogale]

hi,
i have macbook pro lap-top with i7 processor.
i am trying to install knoppix [64bit] on a sd card and make it bootable.
i have googled many times and tried atleast 10 to 15 different methods to do so.
but no success. i do not get any errors while transferring knoppix. but then 
can not boot from sd card.
i know that sd card is not supported directly on macbook pro. one has to 
install refit. but that also failed.
if anyone has a first hand experience for doing so, please let me know any 
hitch or pitfall.
alternatively, while booting through refit i can get a shell prompt
shell>>
is it possible on command line to boot from /dev/disk1? does it works?
why i want bootable sd card knoppix can be discussed later.
thanks,
jayant
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[PLUG] booting from sd card problem

[jayant ogale]

i am trying to boot ubantu from sd hc card on my laptop.
after the grub screen, ubantu splash screen comes but then it gets stuck here. 
when i press esc at this stage i get error message
can't open /dev/sr0 no medium found.
i tried to find any answers on google, but could not get solution.
if i do the same installation from usb pen drive, it boots very smoothly.
can someone tell me the solution?
thanks,
jayant
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Re: [PLUG] booting from sd card problem

[jayant ogale]

> 

> Hi Jayant,
> 

>> From your mail you are trying to boot Ubuntu from micro SD card.
it is a sd hc card.

> Could you specify the partition on the SD cards.
universal usb loader creats uui partiiton on sd card.

> And how are you writing the image on the SD cards.
with universal usb loader.
> 
> Can your bios on the laptop tell you that you can boot from 

> CDROM/SATA/USB/SDCARD ?
i have macbook pro, so there is no bios set-up.
> 
> Most of the embedded devices have u-boot installed on the SD cards
> which initialize the cpu and peripherals of the boards.

> So have you compile the u-boot for x86 platform boards.
i don't know how to do this.
> 
> Their are boot.src or boot.ini files which help guide bootup the boards.
> 
> You need to specific the image name and boot partition of the rootfs
> to make this happen on the SD card.
> 
> setting up u-boot for laptop on sdcards could be initial hick-up but worth 

> trying.
as i have said if i use usb flash, it works fine.
> 
> -Anand Moon
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:40 PM, jayant ogale  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> i am trying to boot ubantu from sd hc card on my laptop.
> after the grub screen, ubantu splash screen comes but then it gets stuck 
> here. 
> when i press esc at this stage i get error message
> can't open /dev/sr0 no medium found.
> i tried to find any answers on google, but could not get solution.
> if i do the same installation from usb pen drive, it boots very smoothly.
> can someone tell me the solution?
> thanks,
> jayant
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[PLUG] tor browser

[jayant ogale]

hi,
recently i read about tor browser. they claim that user identity remains 
anonymous,it not possible to locate the users location, it is not possible to 
store the browsing details.
also they claim that it not possible to intercept and read your mails and other 
details.
is it true? i mean has anybody verified these claims [technically]?
i will be interested to know
1] what are the advantages and disadvantages of using tor browser?
2] internet providers are supposed to store our internet browsing details. if 
the claims are true how do they do it?
3] similarly they have come up with tails o.s. does this o.s. has any specific 
advantages as compared to other o.s.?
thanks,

jayant  
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Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 7, Issue 9

[jayant ogale]

hi milind oak,
thanks for the great job done. actually i had a dream of doing this [filing 
pil]. but for some reason or other, i couldn't do it. i appreciate your efforts 
and a strong will to fight against ms. 

i do not want to discourage you but let me point-out to you the power of our 
politicians and bureaucrats. even if you win the case and the court gives the 
decision/directive, these people will see how to overrule it and make it 
ineffective. [ganapati mandaps on the street is the best example of it]. the 
reason is obvious - you know it.
but someone has to be a whistle blower.
keep it up.
jayant




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Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 17, Issue 1

[jayant ogale]

>
>Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:24:19 +0530
>From: Milind Oka 
>To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
>Subject: [PLUG] Exit Of Microsoft from School Education ?
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>Hi,
>
>On 27 may 2016, Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher 
>Secondary Education has given a reply to my notice. Maharashtra State 
>Board was neglecting Open Source directives given by MHRD. Though the 
>Circular in this regard was issued, it was published in the education 
>booklet "Shikshan Sankraman" !. The circular as Important as this, which 
>could have saved huge amounts for Schools, must have been given to 
>Schools directly and it must have been given wide publicity in major 
>news papers.
>
>The Board's claim that by putting a note - "Schools and Colleges can use 
>Open Source Software" on index page, they have followed directions given 
>by MHRD is ridiculous. In the remaining pages of the reply, Board has 
>given photocopies copies of the changes they have made in 2016-17 text 
>books to be printed soon, and they have clarified further that Open 
>Source can be used in "Theory as well as in Practicals" which is very 
>important.
>
>Note that MHRD has used the word "PREFER" while Board is cleverly using 
>"CAN"  !
>
>Anyway, I assume that this is only a symbolic exit of Microsoft from 
>State's Schools Education.
>
>This covers State Schools and Junior Colleges in Maharashtra. But 
>University Education too is compelling degree colleges to use 
>proprietary software. Situation is somewhat better in Engineering 
>courses but in the courses such as Computer Applications (TYBcom), there 
>are softwares like MS Excel and Visual Basic. Also there are direct 
>questions in the examination on the commands used in Excel and VB. I am 
>going to send similar letter to Mumbai University too.
>
>Also the course  MS-ACIT has been made mandatory for teachers. This 
>course is exclusively an advertisement of Microsoft and other other 
>proprietary software. Since after removing proprietary software from 
>school. This course, which itself is a violation of MHRD notification, 
>becomes meaningless for teachers. Hence appropriate changes are 
>necessary in this course curriculum. We have to follow this matter in 
>Education Department.
>
>I request all to help Schools in Maharashtra aware of the purpose and 
>significance of this change and make open source movement stronger. 
>Otherwise it will remain only on paper.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/seufdy593ocbaiu/Notice_To_SSC-HSC_Board.jpg
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/uccych8u0hnqt6g/Notice_To_SSC-HSC_Board_%28Reply%29.jpg
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>http://www.mediafire.com/download/nouxfd9a1hxnwd4/MHRD_-_Remove_Microsoft.pdf 
>
>
>
>-- Milind

>
hi Mr. Oak,
i really appreciate your efforts.
but as per my view, the words "CAN" and "PREFER" are some what parallel.
both have an escape route to MS.
in fact, if the govt. is on the path of adopting linux, they should stop MS-CIT 
and start LINUX-CIT.
jayant
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[PLUG] linux mint 18.

[jayant ogale]

hi,
recently i have installed linux mint 18 on my lap top.
i would like to know
1] how to increase the size of desktop icons.
2] how to store wi-fi password permanently [every time i start it asks for the 
wi-fi password].
i have done net search for this, but could not get the solution.
if someone has installed it and have a first hand experience please help.
thanks in advance.
jayant ogale.
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[PLUG] problem with heads live

[jayant ogale]

hi,

i am trying to boot heads-live from usb.

it loads and asks for user name and password.

tried with blank and other obvious passwords. nothing works.

ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't work.

any solution?

thanks,

jayant.
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Re: [PLUG] problem with heads live

[jayant ogale]

On Saturday 13 May 2017 02:34 PM, jayant ogale wrote:
> hi,
>
> i am trying to boot heads-live from usb.
>
> it loads and asks for user name and password.
>
> tried with blank and other obvious passwords. nothing works.
>
> ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't work.
>
> any solution?
>
> thanks,
>
> jayant.

Going through the heads website[1] I landed on the FAQs page[2]. *What are the 
login credentials?* is the first question there.

Answer: luther:luther

I hope this is what you are looking for. If not, please excuse me.

[1] https://heads.dyne.org/
[2] https://heads.dyne.org/wiki/faq/

-- 
Dhanesh B. Sabane [dhanesh95]
Web : https://dhanesh95.gitlab.io



hi dhanesh,
thank you very much.
jayant ogale.
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Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 54, Issue 10

[jayant ogale]

 is it not easy to pick-up the phone and call?
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  1.  [Guide] How to join #Pluggies at IRC using Riot app on
      Android/iOS phone (Amey Abhyankar)


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Hello All,

The goal: Join #Pluggies channel at IRC from Android/iOS phones using
Riot app for easy to communicate with fellow #Pluggies

Here are the steps =

1) Register nick at IRC = https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
2) From any web browser go to  https://webchat.freenode.net/ and login
using your registered IRC nick
3) Download & Start Riot app in your Android phone
4) Now from web browser [suggested method] go to
https://riot.im/app/#/welcome and register [Yes more registrations]
5) Now using new matrix ID, login to riot app
6) At bottom of Riot app click on '#' sign at top and type freenode
7) Select 'Freenode IRC Bridge status'
8) Now click on human face icon next to '#' to left side not the 1 on
right hand side.
9) Search for NickServ
10) Now open NickServ's chat window and type following command =
IDENTIFY    & hit enter key [Without the <> tags
and hit SPACE between user name & password]
11) Now join Pluggies channel from Riot app & notice the Pluggies
channel you joined from web-browserpluggies

Enjoy!

FYI: There might be some simplified process/way. I don't no. I used
above steps. Above steps are given in very detailed for everybody's
understanding. Specially those who don't no anything about IRC &
Riot/Matrix.


I worked with Tejas to fix the 'err_reggnick required' thing.
Thanks Tejas for the help.

Regards,
Amey.


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Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1

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 please check the time slots and meeting timing.jayant ogale.

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  1.  PLUG meetup 18th March 2023 (Gaurav Pant)


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Hello Everyone,

After a long time we would be re-booting the PLUG meetup.  I would like to
thank Apurva Pavaskar for taking the initiative and arranging the meeting
venue.
The meeting got rescheduled last time. Please check out the timings and
venue.

Though this is on short notice, hope to see you people this Saturday (18th
Mar 2023).

The venue will be:
Helpshift
"8th floor, Global Square, S.No. 247-14B, Yerawada, Pune, Maharashtra
411006".

Time: 04:00 PM IST to 06:00 PM IST
Time Topic
11:00 Meeting Start
Introduction and overview of PLUG - By Gaurav Pant
11:15 to 11:30
Introduction by participants
11:30  to 12:00
Talk on Emacs/Window Managers -- By Apurva Pavaskar
12:00 to 13:30
emo/Hands on with Blender 3D 3.x Release. -- By Gaurav Pant
13:30  onwards Open discussion.

We would like to have a count of people so please register on the following
link if you are planning to attend.
https://www.plug.org.in/plug-meet-registration

Regards
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