Re: [PLUG] Apache installation

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On 16-Jun-09, at 10:23 PM, Mehul Ved wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:15 PM, abhi   
> wrote:
>
>> hi folks.
>> I want to run the apache server.
>> I have a fedora 9 installation. I dont know if apache is  
>> preinstalled or
>> not.
>
>
> FYI, It's quite old now, Fedora 11 has already released.
>
>
>> How do i find it out?
>
>
> yum info httpd

rpm -qa | grep apache

>> And if it is installed, how do i start it?
>
>
> service httpd start

apache[2]ctl [re]start

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Re: [PLUG] running tally on linux

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On 09-Jul-09, at 8:01 PM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:

> On Thursday 09 July 2009 19:35:42 jayant ogale wrote:
>> hi,
>> when advocating for linux o.s.,in the business world, all the time, i
>> am facing the question of running tally on linux. i was listening  
>> to the
>> news of tally coming with a linux version.[but i do not think so].
>> so i can think of two options for me.
>> 1] to run tally with crossover in xandros.
>> or
>> 2] to run it with wine in mandriva.
>> has anybody actually tried it this way?
>
> Isn't there a tally rpm on the CD?

I don't remember whether its rpm or some other package manager, but I  
do remember tally 7.x used to work on linux.

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Re: [PLUG] running tally on linux

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On 10-Jul-09, at 1:08 PM, jayant ogale wrote:

> -
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> On 09-Jul-09, at 8:01 PM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 09 July 2009 19:35:42 jayant ogale wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> when advocating for linux o.s.,in the business world, all the  
>>> time, i
>>> am facing the question of running tally on linux. i was listening
>>> to the
>>> news of tally coming with a linux version.[but i do not think so].
>>> so i can think of two options for me.
>>> 1] to run tally with crossover in xandros.
>>> or
>>> 2] to run it with wine in mandriva.
>>> has anybody actually tried it this way?
>>
>> Isn't there a tally rpm on the CD?
>
> I don't remember whether its rpm or some other package manager, but I
> do remember tally 7.x used to work on linux.

I meant it ran natively on linux.

> - shantanoo
> hi,
> sorry for little harsh language.
> i am looking for some concrete answer / solution.
> my mail cleraly indicates that.
> i have tried for the solution to my level best and then only i am  
> writing this mail
> sorry again,
> jayant


Can you share the details of the tally version which you are trying?  
Can you point to installer which can be tired (evaluation version)?

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Re: [PLUG] Combining two ISP connections to increase bandwidth?

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On 22-Jul-09, at 10:12 PM, Mayuresh wrote:

> Fed up of downtime of my ISP and having heard the same stories about  
> another
> ISP operating in the area, I am wondering whether it's possible to  
> subscribe
> to both of them for redundancy.
>
> However, it won't be an economical proposition if used only for  
> redundancy.
> Also, as a home user there are no multiple simultaneous users. So  
> only way
> both connections would get utilized (when both are up!) and give  
> value for
> money is if for a single user they both could serve in tandem. In  
> other words,
> let's say I have both connections of 128 kbps, I should get an  
> effective
> download speed of 256kbps for download of even a SINGLE file (and  
> not multiple
> files simultaneously).
>
> To the extent I searched around, it looks difficult or impossible. I  
> think it's
> a reasonable consumer expectation, though do not know about its  
> feasibility.
>
> Any ideas?


Following maybe useful:
http://archive.linuxvirtualserver.org/html/lvs-users/2008-02/msg00063.html
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/21557-load-balancing-iptables-packet-tagging.html

I have used it successfully used following on FreeBSD.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html
check 'Load Balance Outgoing Traffic' section.

HTH.

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Re: [PLUG] ubuntu version on celeron with 256MB

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On 07-Aug-09, at 7:18 PM, Chetan Kumar wrote:

> Hi
> Which distribution (from ubuntu stable) are you running on an older
> configuration (celeron with 256MB RAM)? It is a desktop scenario.
> What experience you have to share?
> Upgrading is not an option for this case.
> Cheers

You may like to try archlinux (http://www.archlinux.org/)

===
You've reached the website for Arch Linux, a lightweight and flexible  
Linux® distribution that tries to Keep It Simple.
===

regards,
shantanoo
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Re: [PLUG] Linux client server installation

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On 05-Aug-09, at 2:26 PM, saket gaikwad wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for professional service providers who can setup linux  
> client sever environment at my office.
>   If anyone interested or having information plz  forward to me.
> You can directly contact  me on 9850067684.

Hi Saket,
Please check http://tr.im/w5uf

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Re: [PLUG] Multi Drop Mail Box

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On 02-Oct-09, at 1:18 PM, Rajiv Gore wrote:

> I have a catch all mailbox on my domain name where in I receive  
> emails for 10
> people.This catch all mail box has only 1 user name and 1 password.
> I have dovecot running on my machine with accounts for these 10  
> people.
> Can fetchmail retrieve messages for these 10 people and deliver them  
> to
> dovecot for storing in their individual mailbox?
> What code needs to go in fetchmailrc file to achieve this?

you may also have a look at procmail. you can achieve it with fetchmail 
+procmail.

HTH.
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Re: [PLUG] Multi Drop Mail Box

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On 02-Oct-09, at 1:30 PM, Rajiv Gore wrote:

> On Friday 02 October 2009 13:22, शंतनू wrote:
>> On 02-Oct-09, at 1:18 PM, Rajiv Gore wrote:
>>> I have a catch all mailbox on my domain name where in I receive
>>> emails for 10
>>> people.This catch all mail box has only 1 user name and 1 password.
>>> I have dovecot running on my machine with accounts for these 10
>>> people.
>>> Can fetchmail retrieve messages for these 10 people and deliver them
>>> to
>>> dovecot for storing in their individual mailbox?
>>> What code needs to go in fetchmailrc file to achieve this?
>>
>> you may also have a look at procmail. you can achieve it with  
>> fetchmail
>> +procmail.
>>
>> HTH.
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> Thanks but what code needs to go in fetchmailrc to acheive this?

http://google.com/search?q=fetchmail+procmail
http://google.com/search?q=fetchmail+procmail+postfix

man procmailrc
man fetchmailrc --- need to confirm this

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Re: [PLUG] Whose BUG is it?

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On 24-Nov-2009, at 8:08 PM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote:

> tried to setup देवनागरी boot menu option in lilo on Mandriva 2010.  It
> does not look supported display wise although the garbled string of
> characters correctly boot.
> 
> Does GrUB handle this correctly for Hindi string options?
> 
> Whose fault is it anyhow?

AFAIR, normal text mode doesn't support unicode rendering. Maybe you need to 
use VESA graphics mode (?) to see the unicode character set. IMO, its not a bug.

emails contain 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"' which helps email 
readers to properly detect and display the content properly. I see 'From: 
=?UTF-8?B?4KSuLuCkueCkvi7gpLjgpL4u4KSXLuCksA==?= ' if I 
look at source of the email.

Useful search string:
grub unicode support

Useful links:
http://lwn.net/Articles/338337/
http://grub.enbug.org/gfxterm

hth.
regards,
shantanoo
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Re: [PLUG] Whose BUG is it?

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On 25-Nov-2009, at 10:53 AM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote:

> 2009/11/25 शंतनू :
>> On 24-Nov-2009, at 8:08 PM, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote:
>> 
>>> tried to setup देवनागरी boot menu option in lilo on Mandriva 2010.  It
>>> does not look supported display wise although the garbled string of
>>> characters correctly boot.
>>> 
>>> Does GrUB handle this correctly for Hindi string options?
>>> 
>>> Whose fault is it anyhow?
>> 
>> AFAIR, normal text mode doesn't support unicode rendering. Maybe you need to 
>> use VESA graphics mode (?) to see the unicode character set. IMO, its not a 
>> bug.
> 
> Incorrect answer.  Setting graphics mode VESA does apply it to the
> messages post lilo prompt, not when lilo menu displays.
> 
> Please correct if this is incorrect.  tried playing vith all vga modes
> for past 44 minutes before retiring into this reply post
> 

Useful links:
[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/338337/
[2] http://grub.enbug.org/gfxterm

The gfxterm link, [2], would be helpful. Did you tried that? I don't have 
access to grub 2 to try it out. Please share your experience...+ve/-ve whatever 
it is.

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Re: [PLUG] Creating ISO image for VPS

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On 06-Jan-2010, at 5:58 PM, Rajeev Karajgikar wrote:

> Hello All:
> 
> I have a linux server with some desired configuration. I want to be able to
> create new copies of the same server within VPS using custom ISO images.
> 
> I want to create a custom ISO image of a running CentOS server that can be
> used to quickly create another VPS copy of the same server.
> 
> Any ideas on how one can do this?
> - Is there a command to create ISO image of the running Linux server?
> - mkisofs command - does it
> 
> Anyone has actual experience in creating such ISO files?

How about 
- http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
- http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/index.shtml
- 
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/13168-cloning-hard-drive-dump-restore-command.html
- http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
- http://clonezilla.org/

instead of iso.

Most of the solutions expect that OS is not running while cloning is done.

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Re: [PLUG] Open Source Inventory Management System

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On 20-Jan-2010, at 5:17 PM, Dnyanraj Mali wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Has anyone used any PHP based open source Inventory Management System?
> 
> SugarCRM & dotProject had some inventory modules which are not so powerful,
> 
> i found another product "h-inventory" which is not that good..
> 
> 
> any other suggestions?

It would be useful for others to help you if you share the list of features you 
are looking for. Points which you had while evaluation SugarCRM and dotProject 
would also be useful.

Just wondering, is there any specific reason for php based software?

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Re: [PLUG] Good folder syncronization utility

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On 09-Feb-2010, at 11:44 AM, Kapil Agrawal wrote:

> Hi ,
> 
> I need to syncronize my folders on my ubuntu box with a remote server, so
> that I can access these from any location.  I can only access that server
> through ftp.
> Please suggest if anyone has experience using such utility.

You may try http://www.wuala.com/

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Re: [PLUG] testing on multple linux platforms

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This is not top-post :).

On 30-Mar-2010, at 5:41 PM, Rohit Karajgi wrote:

> The way I can think of is to install VM's of the required OS's on a server,
> put them on the same domain , and then mount the required app packages on to
> the respective VM and then perform your tests. Basically create a test lab
> on the box
> 
> You can use Vmware server or Microsoft Virtual Server (both are free),
> though i'd recommend vmware.

Another option would be qemu with kvm.

> rohit
> 
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Kapil Agrawal  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> How do you test an application developed on one platform, on other
>> platfooms.
>> So my development machine is ubuntu 9.04, and want to test an applications
>> developed there, on other platfroms like ubuntu 8.10, 9.10 , fedora etc
>> 
>> Whats the easier way then not installing each platform and testing ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Regards
>> Kapil
>> 
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Re: [PLUG] Idea for project in JAVA/PHP for final year of BCS

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On Tuesday 20 July 2010 05:07 PM, Vedarth Kulkarni wrote:

Hello,

Please can anyone suggest me a good Idea for a project in JAVA or PHP
(strictly) for the final year of BCS.
I want to make a innovative and a contributive project towards the open
source.
I am ready to learn and study the things needed from scratch.

   

http://sarovar.org/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=php&Search=Search
http://sarovar.org/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=java&Search=Search
http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=java+or+php
http://bitbucket.org/repo/all/?name=java
http://bitbucket.org/repo/all/?name=php
http://github.com/search?q=java
http://github.com/search?q=php
http://code.google.com/query/#p=opensource&q=php%20or%20java
http://projects.apache.org/
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/
https://launchpad.net/

HTH.

Would appreciate if you can put some light on what you mean by 
'innovative project'. Examples are welcomed. That would help people to 
reply more accurately to your query.


regards,
shantanoo

PS: Idea's are strictly language and platform independent. Idea can be 
implemented in any language and/or on any platform.


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Re: [PLUG] What are the most viable backup options for linux

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On Thursday 22 July 2010 11:51 AM, आदित्य लघाटे wrote:

On 22 July 2010 10:56, Abhijit Bhopatkar  wrote:
   

On Thursday 22 July 2010 08:59 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:

On Wednesday 21 July 2010 16:07:07 Chaitannya Mahatme wrote:

@Sudhanwa Jogalekar : Well now Ubuntu has been my only OS for months now,
considering Madriva is a remote possibility.

Ubuntu One?
   


http://dropbox.com
http://wuala.com

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[PLUG] [OT] Re: Government Sponsored Vendor lock

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On Monday 26 July 2010 10:24 AM, Mithun Shitole wrote:

Hi,
Engineering, Diploma etc. admissions processes are online. The 
website for it is dte.org.in . Unfortunately Technical board doesn't 
seems to care about users who don't use IE. When you go to 
http://www.dte.org.in/FE2010/StaticPages/Default.aspx , this is what 
it says: "Sorry, this Application is Supported only on IE6, IE7 & IE8" .
Same applies when Diploma admission link is visited. I think this is 
clear case of vendor locking. Is there any way to protest?


Thanks and regards,
Mithun,
http://blog.imithun.in


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http://dte.org.in/feedback/feedback.asp
http://dte.org.in/contact/contact.asp

Did you try to send feedback/email using above links? If no, the first 
step would be sending email and sending feedback as well.


I also stumbled upon http://dte.org.in/rdte/index.asp

regards,
shantanoo


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Re: [PLUG] [OT] Re: Government Sponsored Vendor lock

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On Tuesday 27 July 2010 09:58 PM, Vinayak Kulkarni wrote:

Hi All,
  
Government seems to be lazy over acting on such things.

While I was undergoing admssion process in 2007-08, I faced same problem. That 
time I had sent feedback emails to the respective authorities, but 
unfortunately no reply has ever come.
I think strong grouped protest is required for such things.
  



Vinayak Kulkarni

http://kulkarnivd1989.blogspot.com


--- On Tue, 27/7/10, शंतनू  wrote:


From: शंतनू
Subject: [PLUG] [OT] Re: Government Sponsored Vendor lock
To: "Mithun Shitole"
Cc: "Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List"
Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:46 AM


On Monday 26 July 2010 10:24 AM, Mithun Shitole wrote:
   

Hi,
  Engineering, Diploma etc. admissions processes are online. The website for it is 
dte.org.in . Unfortunately Technical board doesn't seems to care about users who don't use 
IE. When you go to http://www.dte.org.in/FE2010/StaticPages/Default.aspx , this is what it 
says: "Sorry, this Application is Supported only on IE6, IE7&  IE8" .
Same applies when Diploma admission link is visited. I think this is clear case 
of vendor locking. Is there any way to protest?

Thanks and regards,
Mithun,
http://blog.imithun.in


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http://dte.org.in/feedback/feedback.asp
http://dte.org.in/contact/contact.asp

Did you try to send feedback/email using above links? If no, the first step 
would be sending email and sending feedback as well.

I also stumbled upon http://dte.org.in/rdte/index.asp

regards,
shantanoo

   

Please do not top post. :)

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu xen problem

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On 17-Aug-2010, at 5:20 PM, aniruddh katkar wrote:

> Hello guys,
> I've recently installed Ubuntu 10.04 x64 on my pc and when i tried to
> install xen-desktop on it . gave me an error as follows:
> 
> /universe/x/xen-tools/xen-tools_4.1-1_all.deb: trying to overwrite
> '/etc/bash_completion.d/xm', which is also in package bash-completion 1

Short answer: Error message is *self-explainatory*.
Answer: uninstall bash-completion and then try installing xen-desktop.


> I don't why it happened or haven't got a clue so please let me know if
> anybody know anything about how to solve this problem

Hope the above steps are helpful in resolving the issue.

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Re: [PLUG] nohup output to different out file

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On 15/11/10 10:53 PM, "Mehul Ved"  wrote:

>On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Pranav Peshwe 
>wrote:
>> One notable difference would be - `nohup command`  will *append* to
>> nohup.out, while `nohup command > filename` will (owing to the '>')
>>truncate
>> the file to zero before writing.
>
>That would be simple enough to solve, right. Just use >> instead of >.
>See http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html


Still wondering why not use 'wget -b'.



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Re: [PLUG] NFS : Does mounted file system type matter to client side?

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On 04-Dec-2010, at 1:48 PM, Mayuresh wrote:

> Noticed a strange thing with NFS-NTFS combination:
> 
> There is an NTFS drive mounted read-only and shared read-only over NFS and
> mounted read-only on a client machine.
> 
> If a large file is transferred over this mount, the connection breaks
> midway with "stale NFS error".
> 
> Restoring the connection does not even require re-mount. You can just say
> cd to mounted directory to restore the connection and the file becomes
> visible again.
> 
> The amount of time elapsed or amount of data transferred till such error
> occurs varies a lot. (In fact the file does not have to be necessarily
> large. Sometimes the problem occurs with small files, too, though the
> likelihood of hitting the problem increases with large files.)
> 
> However if same large files are kept on an ext4 system then the transfer
> goes through fine between the same two nfs client and server machines.
> 
> In all these experiments, network quality was good. Both wired and
> wireless networks showed the same behavior.
> 
> Now one could conclude that there is a problem with NFS - NTFS combination
> somewhere. However, now if I use the same combination of NTFS drive and
> NFS server but with a different client machine then the whole file is
> transferred fully without any problems.
> 
> So, only with a certain nfs client machine and only when the mounted file
> system is NTFS there occurs a problem during transfer of files.
> 
> NFS client being sensitive to mounted drive type at server end defies the
> logic. Is there such dependency even possible from NFS architecture point
> of view?
> 
> Mayuresh.


A filehandle becomes stale whenever the file or directory referenced by the 
handle is removed by another host, while your client still holds an active 
reference to the object. A typical example occurs when the current directory of 
a process, running on your client, is removed on the server (either by a 
process running on the server or on another  client).


Is there any other machine which trying to access/modify the file which you are 
trying to copy?

NFS is stateless protocol. No need to change any thing at client end.
Since ext4 works and ntfs gives some issue, I suspect this issue is related to 
mounting the fs on the server.
Sharing following information could be useful to find out the problem.

- output of mount command (which will tell more about the mount options used)
- ntfs driver used for mounting the ntfs



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Re: [PLUG] A specific IP address not reachable via certain ISP

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On 18-Nov-2010, at 8:11 PM, Mayuresh wrote:

> I find this strange. Can someone help?
> 
> I use Tata Indicom connection. The internet appears generally accessible
> but for a certain ip address : 59.163.6.13
> 
> I tried ping, which just hangs.
> 
> Traceroute shows 4 steps and then just stars.
> 
> I tried connection of another ISP and online ping tools: With these the
> server appears up and accessible fine.
> 
> Could the problem be with my machine's setup ? I think not. Could it be
> with routing info with some switch on the path? Anything else?

Section from 'man traceroute'

===
 A more interesting example is:

 [yak 72]% traceroute allspice.lcs.mit.edu.
 traceroute to allspice.lcs.mit.edu (18.26.0.115), 64 hops max
 1  helios.ee.lbl.gov (128.3.112.1)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  lilac-dmc.Berkeley.EDU (128.32.216.1)  19 ms  19 ms  19 ms
 3  lilac-dmc.Berkeley.EDU (128.32.216.1)  39 ms  19 ms  19 ms
 4  ccngw-ner-cc.Berkeley.EDU (128.32.136.23)  19 ms  39 ms  39 ms
 5  ccn-nerif22.Berkeley.EDU (128.32.168.22)  20 ms  39 ms  39 ms
 6  128.32.197.4 (128.32.197.4)  59 ms  119 ms  39 ms
 7  131.119.2.5 (131.119.2.5)  59 ms  59 ms  39 ms
 8  129.140.70.13 (129.140.70.13)  80 ms  79 ms  99 ms
 9  129.140.71.6 (129.140.71.6)  139 ms  139 ms  159 ms
 10  129.140.81.7 (129.140.81.7)  199 ms  180 ms  300 ms
 11  129.140.72.17 (129.140.72.17)  300 ms  239 ms  239 ms
 12  * * *
 13  128.121.54.72 (128.121.54.72)  259 ms  499 ms  279 ms
 14  * * *
 15  * * *
 16  * * *
 17  * * *
 18  ALLSPICE.LCS.MIT.EDU (18.26.0.115)  339 ms  279 ms  279 ms

 Note that the gateways 12, 14, 15, 16 & 17 hops away either don't send 
ICMP "time exceeded" messages or send them with a ttl too small to reach
 us.  14 - 17 are running the MIT C Gateway code that doesn't send "time 
exceeded"s.  God only knows what's going on with 12.
===

Could be the one of the reason.
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Re: [PLUG] Cricket score readout script for world cup

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On 20-Feb-2011, at 3:40 PM, Mayuresh wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:59:16PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote:
>> Here is the link:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/sayscore/files/sayscore_wc11.sh/download
> 
> Just updated to support multiple matches on the same day.
> Mayuresh.

Some suggestions
- replacing 'espeak' with 'say', and it will work on mac osx also.
- putting the URL of the license used for the script itself is good idea. you 
can also put your name, email etc.
- in prerequisites, 'bash' is mentioned. but the script uses 'sh'.

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Re: [PLUG] Wvdial and OpenDNS

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On 25-Feb-2011, at 10:34 AM, Kaustubh Gadkari wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Gaurav Pant  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I want to use openDNS ip addresses with wvdial.
>> the entries added to /etc/resolv.conf are removed or overwritten by some
>> script of resolver.
>> even after stwf and rtfm I could not get a satisfactory way to get the
>> OpenDNS IP permanently into my /etc/resolv.conf
>> 
> 
> Maybe make /etc/resolv.conf immutable using chattr after you put the
> OpenDNS nameservers in the file?

+1 for immutable.

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Re: [PLUG] PHP timestamp difference on Linux and Windows systems

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On 19-Mar-2011, at 11:04 AM, Navin Kabra wrote:

> 19800 seconds = 5 hours and 30 minutes.
> sounds like a timezone issue. (UTC vs IST)
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:40 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> When I am executing a php code like below:
>> 
>> > $timestamp=mktime(0,0,0,3,1,2011);
>> echo $timestamp;
>> ?>
>> 
>> on Linux and Windows system then there is always a difference of 19800 in
>> output. The result shown on Linux system is always 19800 less than the
>> value displayed on Windows system. But theoretically output on both
>> systems should be same because the number of seconds elapsed since
>> 01/01/1970 to 03/01/2011 should always be same on both operating systems.
>> Can any one please explain the reason behind this difference.

You may like to go through —
http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html

Hardware Clock ≠ System Clock — probable problem area.
HTH.

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Re: [PLUG] Anyone using / can advise on FreeBSD/NetBSD?

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Don't know much about NetBSD. Regarding FreeBSD, please find reply inline.

On 15-Jul-2011, at 6:50 PM, Mayuresh wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:05:36PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote:
>> I happen to have tried out both FreeBSD and NetBSD in the meantime. I will
>> post my experiences in a separate mail.
> 
> Following is a short summary of my little exposure to installing and using
> FreeBSD, NetBSD along side Fedora - which is (still) my default distro.
> 
> This is not a very scientific comparison - merely some observations
> through some day-to-day use-cases. Also I am not familiar with
> tricks/quirks of either of them that could have improved certain aspects
> of them that otherwise look inferior in observations below.
> 
> Download time:
>   NetBSD << FreeBSD (full) << Fedora
>NetBSD is just about 250MB and way too quicker to get going for the
> impatient.
> 
> Installation time:
>   Both BSDs were much faster to install than Fedora. I have considered a
> "minimal" install of Fedora here. NetBSD was a bit more painless I felt.
> 
> Booting time:
>   Both BSDs were faster than Fedora, though it of course depends on
> configuring things. Point is, the defaults on BSD are not bloated i.e. it
> starts virtually nothing by default unless you tell it to.
> 
> Hardware support:
>   My h/w is not very exotic so any good distro is expected to work.
> If at all, the difference was with respect to Intel wifi card which worked
> out of the box on Fedora and NetBSD (yes!) but not on FreeBSD (of course
> there must be a way to get it work).

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html

> 
> File system support:
>   I wanted home directory to be same on all 3 distros. It was on ext3 to
> start with. Neither of the BSDs had an ext3 driver. ext2 driver worked
> fine on FreeBSD, though NetBSD showed very strange errors and could not
> identify some of the ext3 partitions. Incidentally, Someone from NetBSD
> mailing list advised against using ext2 driver for ext3 system as it may
> cause problems.
> 
> Snappiness of X server operation (switch, scroll etc.):
>   Both Fedora and FreeBSD were nearly same. NetBSD lacked slightly in
> this. I read somewhere, their X implementation is slightly tailored, while
> FreeBSD uses same xorg like most other Linux distros.
> 
> File system performance (native FS of each):
>   When unzipping large zips or deleting large directories, felt that
> ext3 was much much faster than either of the BSDs.
> 
> Performance with own programs:
>   The test programs were largely CPU bound. Fedora/Linux fared
> marginally better than both BSDs.
> 
> i386 vs i686 and not sure how much it matters:
>   Have entire Fedora system starting from kernel level tuned for i686,
> though BSDs were for i386. Just thought this could be a factor why
> Fedora/Linux was fairing better in above tests. Recompiled FULL FreeBSD
> grounds up using "native" option to produce it for i686, though the
> performance did not change much.
> 
> Installation of s/w:
>   I liked ports on FreeBSD, though that's way too time consuming and I
> felt the returns were not worth the time. On both BSDs binary
> installations were quick and smooth. Both BSDs seemed to lack a way to
> cache downloaded package just in case if required again - which I get on
> Fedora through yum.

Instead of using, 'make install clean' for installing, try 'make package'. 
Should give you binary package which you can re-use.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

Also, you may like to have a look @ http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/

Check http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-8-packages-latest/

'pkg_add -r' is useful.

> Adding s/w from CD that was not chosen during installation:
>   Way too simple for Fedora. Some tweaks were needed for FreeBSD. On
> NetBSD, had to reboot using the CD and making any error when re-choosing
> package "sets" may wipe out your configuration options.

I tend to use 'pkg_add'.

> Compilation of 3rd party s/w from sources:
>   Painless on Fedora and FreeBSD. NetBSD required its own set of quirks
> that suit its personality.. Part of the problems is the autoconf specs did
> take FreeBSD into a/c though not NetBSD.
> 
> Administration:
>   Some how feel /etc/rc.conf to be a good one stop shop on BSDs, though
> some Linux flavors may already have adopted this.
> 
> Support:
>   Did not need much on FreeBSD. On NetBSD, tried mailing lists for ext3
> issue. They are helpful, though did see some elitist smell. E.g. first
> question shot back to me was "what do you mean by logical partition", when
> in PC world we kind of take its meaning for granted.

cd /usr/ports && make search key=ext2 | grep ^P

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook is worth reading.

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Re: [PLUG] Anyone using / can advise on FreeBSD/NetBSD?

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On 28-Jul-2011, at 10:48 AM, Siddharth Karandikar wrote:

> Is www.openbsd.org down for last couple of days?  If anyone is on
> their mailing list, whats the status there?
> 
> just "openbsd.org" works as its different machine but it doesn't have
> any of the doc or package links.

$ wget http://openbsd.org
--2011-07-29 02:28:15--  http://openbsd.org/
Resolving openbsd.org (openbsd.org)... 199.185.137.3
Connecting to openbsd.org (openbsd.org)|199.185.137.3|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5950 (5.8K) [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html'

100%[==>] 5,950   17.0K/s   in 0.3s

2011-07-29 02:28:17 (17.0 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [5950/5950]

$ wget http://www.openbsd.org
--2011-07-29 02:28:22--  http://www.openbsd.org/
Resolving www.openbsd.org (www.openbsd.org)... 142.244.12.42
Connecting to www.openbsd.org (www.openbsd.org)|142.244.12.42|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5950 (5.8K) [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html.1'

100%[==>] 5,950   19.4K/s   in 0.3s

2011-07-29 02:28:24 (19.4 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved [5950/5950]

$ md5 index.html*
MD5 (index.html) = a3ac4154263b644d223b70c9823e226e
MD5 (index.html.1) = a3ac4154263b644d223b70c9823e226e


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Re: [PLUG] Good smtp setup

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On 10-Sep-2011, at 8:30 AM, Mayuresh wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:14:57AM +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
> 
> Let me restore the focus of the thread a bit.
> 
> I want to use smtp daemon that will manage a queue of outgoing mails and
> use a relay host to send mails.
> 
> Many of them fit the bill. No problem so far.
> 
> The relay host requires authentication. I'd like to store the
> authentication details on client side - as non root user. Many client
> programs do that who invoke sendmail. But that doesn't give you queue
> ability.
> 
> The daemon may need authnetication details not only at the time of
> submitting a mail to queue but also when it for example has to retry
> sending mails. This takes away the flexibility of specifying relay host
> and auth details entirely on client side.


You may find following link useful.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/postfix-multiple-isp-accounts-smarthost-smtp-client/


> I don't think it's a totally unmeetable requirement technically, though I
> do not know of a daemon that provides this flexibility or how to configure
> one with such flexibility.


If you want to integrate the password update for smarthost smtp client with 
multiple isp accounts over STMP; so that it is transparent to MUA, you may need 
to write your own smtpd.

Following may be useful in that case.

http://docs.python.org/library/smtpd.html
http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/smtpd/
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1138425/add-smtp-auth-support-to-python-smtpd-library-cant-override-the-method



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Re: [PLUG] [mail admin] top-posting ?

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Reply inline.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 20:45, Shyamgopal Kundapurkar
 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> One of my replies to a mail on PLUG was rejected by the mail list admin,
> with the reason "top posting discouraged". (Please see the mail snippet
> below.) I am sorry about not attending PLUG meetings regularly, but may I
> know, if PLUG has officially decided to "discourage" mails which follow "top
> posting" ? If yes, may we have a mail on PLUG mailing list to that effect ?
>
> thanks so much,
> shyam 
>
>
>
>
> --->
>
> Your request to the plug-mail mailing list
>
>   Posting of your message titled "Re: [PLUG] Where to find Oreilly
> books in Pune"
>
> has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the
> following reason for rejecting your request:
>
> "Top posting is discouraged."
>
> Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator
> at:
>
>   plug-mail-ow...@plug.org.in
> ___


You may like to read
http://www.plug.org.in/mailing-list/

Also, searching for 'list-manager plug.org.in top posting' resulted in
http://www.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2011-May/008351.html


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Re: [PLUG] Accessing /home partition of old MandrivaLinux from Mint12

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On 15-Mar-2012, at 12:04 AM, Arun Tomar wrote:

> On 03/14/2012 11:55 PM, ColVIN wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Recently I shifted to LinuxMint12 from Mandriva 2012.2, while moving I 
>> formatted my / partition and kept my /home partition unformatted.
>> Now,
>> 
>> I cannot access the home folder of one of the user of Mandriva from 
>> LinuxMint12.
>> 
>> LinuxMint is assigning that folders ownership to GID which has not been 
>> assigned to any of the user of LinuxMint12.
>> What should I do to gain access of that home folder of Mandriva's user?
>> (I tried opening that folder with sudo.. but that did not help..)
>> 
>>  Regards
>> 
>> Vinayak D. Kulkarni
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> run the following command from the terminal
> sudo chown -R : /home
> 
> replace the angle brackets and content inside that properly, as needed.

Wondering why opening with 'sudo' did not work.

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Re: [PLUG] Gentoo / Arch / other : please advise

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On Jun 2, 2012 6:21 PM, "Mayuresh"  wrote:
>
> I am looking for a suitable distro for following usage pattern:
>
> 1. Rolling updates with a small base system. (No huge downloads every 6
> months and hours of upgrade and configuration time. This is where I am
> parting ways with Fedora which I trusted and used for many years. What
> triggers a change is a recent upgrade has broken my system beyond
> imagination.)
>
> 2. Source as well as binary options for installations.
>
> 3. Fairly leading edge base and packages. (Unlike conservative BSDs one of
> which I will be anway using or slackware.)
>
> 4. Stable. I will be using this as a backup or secondary OS, with primary
> OS as NetBSD. I'll be anyway be experimenting, making and breaking things
> on NetBSD. So need the secondary environment to be stable that can be
> easily fallen back to. Also, certain things like printer, scanner etc
> don't as yet work on NetBSD, so do certain applications, for which I want
> to turn to a reliable alternative.
>
> Evaluating Arch and Gentoo. Somewhat confused about what suits better for
> above profile.

You may also check slackware.
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Re: [PLUG] Linux distro based on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:13 AM, gauravs joshi  wrote:
> hello guys can you suggest me distro based on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS not based
> Ubuntu 12.04  because all other distro like Linux Mint ,Zorin etc doesn't
> bring updated ISO like ubuntu does ? As too many updates need to be
> installed for Ubuntu 12.04 based distro..

You can always choose not to upgrade any packages and/or download any upgrades.

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Re: [PLUG] Proposal for change from the current state of the list.

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On 23/01/13 11:21 AM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote:
> The reaction seems like "You asked for it, you are getting it. Don't blame
> us for it." ("it" indicates spam)

In a way, yes it seems to be like that. People were asking for freedom. they 
get it now. Freedom comes with responsibilities. (With great power comes great 
responsibility...). Lets see how people want to take them up.



> Specific comments follow :
>
> 1. All the users moderation flag (that is currently set) to be
>> removed.
>
> -1
> I'm assuming these users were put under moderation for a reason.
>
> Any new member joining the list will not get a moderation
>> flag set.
>>
> -1
>
> Typically, new users are put under moderation till their first post is
> approved.
> This is general practice - helps prevent spam.
>
>
>> 2. All the current filters to be removed and started from scratch. Let
>> us use the list of filters from Arun Khan's mail to start of the new
>> filters list.
>>
> I assume the new filters will be in place as soon as old filters are
> removed, and there won't be gap of "days" between the too.
> "No filter" mailing list mean LOTS of spam (Refer to my first comment)
>
>
>> 3. Any change (add/delete/modify) of filter and add/remove moderation
>> flag for a list member and removing of any list member is to be done
>> by voting. 15 votes in favour of the proposal required for approval.
>> (eg. 20 votes in favour and 5 negative votes is OK)
>
> -1
> Is there cutoff time ? What if you get 14 votes "soon enough" and no 15th
> vote for 2 months ?
> Will you keep waiting indefinitely ?

Waiting indefinitely makes sense. If there is any spam by the user, getting the 
15th vote may not be time consuming. IMO.
Members are free do discuss/decide the number. RFC is meant for the same.

> I think members trust moderators to make the right decision, especially
> when removing/deleting a user
>
> 4. There will be moderator/s but they will act only once in a week.
>
> This is considering that there will be hardly anything in moderation
>> and there will be less filters applicable.
>
> This makes sense only if the list of "open for all" (including spammers)
> Which I don;t think any members want.
> I suggest there will be a "pool" of moderators, they "approve/delete"
> messages from the queue as and when possible.
Within few weeks this should be settled. If there is spam, getting 15
(Number can be decided here itself) votes will be easy. This will
increase involvement of everyone. At least more people will come forward
to fight against spam and to keep the list clean.
>> Moderators identities will not be disclosed.
>>
> OK
>
>
>> 6. Considering the above, it will be decided on the list itself if the
>> list is to be declared moderated or un-moderated.
>>
> This hardly matters (to the users)

So you are suggesting that there should be no change to the list? Users trust 
current moderators, and this whole thread is irrelevant?

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Re: [PLUG] Proposal for change from the current state of the list.

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On 23/01/13 12:13 PM, Darth Chatri wrote:
> On 23 January 2013 01:24, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:
>> 1. All the users moderation flag (that is currently set) to be
>> removed.
> +1
>
>> Any new member joining the list will not get a moderation
>> flag set.
> -1. We should moderate the first couple of posts to prevent automated
> signups from spambots.

Earlier, almost everyone seemed to be against moderation. Why the moderators 
should be given the task to keep track of members mail count. Can you (anyone) 
volunteer do it on the list itself?
Over few weeks, spammers will be banned, considering required votes are there, 
filters will be updated.



>
>> 2. All the current filters to be removed and started from scratch. Let
>> us use the list of filters from Arun Khan's mail to start of the new
>> filters list.
>>
> +1
>
>> 3. Any change (add/delete/modify) of filter and add/remove moderation
>> flag for a list member and removing of any list member is to be done
>> by voting. 15 votes in favour of the proposal required for approval.
>> (eg. 20 votes in favour and 5 negative votes is OK)
>>
> Maybe this can be changed to 15 complaints to the admin against the
> user, instead of having a public voting process.
Number can be finalized over here. RFC is meant for discussions. In the
new system, it seems mods will not be decision makers. They are just
executors. In the current system, they also decide things for the list
as well execute decisions. In a free mailing list, they will just follow
the instructions from the list. Let the members decide their own freedom.

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Re: [PLUG] ftp server with whom Windows ftp client would work

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On 20/07/13 10:21 AM, Mayuresh wrote:
> Recently had a situation to try ftp client on Windows with vsftpd ftp
> server as well as classic Unix ftp server.
>
> Windows client draws strange errors like this, though Unix client is seen
> working fine with the server:
>
>  FTP error "425 Use PORT or PASV first.

Seems like on passive mode is off. Following may be useful.

===
$ ftp
ftp> passive
Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off.
ftp> passive
Passive mode: on; fallback to active mode: on.
===

Few useful links:
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=FTP+error+%22425+Use+PORT+or+PASV+first.&oq=FTP+error+%22425+Use+PORT+or+PASV+first
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1699145/what-is-the-difference-between-active-and-passive-ftp
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/System-Administration/FTP-error-quot-425-Use-PORT-or-PASV-first-quot/td-p/4072568

>
> Web searches show this to be an issue with the ftp client. Many of them
> conclude "don't use windows ftp client".
>
> I do not have control over the Windows machine. So can't install any
> alternative client / scp / cygwin etc.

Using scp/sftp is always recommended.

HTH.

> I have control over the server side. So could try installing smb etc.
>
> But before that just wanted to check whether ftp is really a closed option
> with default ftp client on Windows and Unix/Linux ftp servers? Is there
> any configuration option or any ftp server implementation that can make do
> with pesky Windows ftp client?
>
> Mayuresh

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Re: [PLUG] [OT] UPS for a router

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Reply inline.

On 03/08/13 9:06 PM, Mayuresh wrote:
> Wonder whether there is such thing - a compact UPS that can be used to
> power a router to ensure uninterrupted wifi connection for home usage.
What is compact according to you? 1cm x 1 cm x 1cm or 10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm.
> Well I could buy a battery powered router itself. But I already have one
> and I am not getting good performance and range from it. Hesitant to buy
> yet another in this category.
Can you share the details of the battery powered router which you are
using? By performance,
what do you mean? Speed is not as expected? Connectivity keeps dropping?
etc.
> Is there anything called a mini UPS or something. I need a compact form
> factor for my requirement.
And the requirement is?
- Should not be more than certain dimensions...
- Should not weigh more than...
- Life of battery should be at least...
> Also, for such requirement, where the end load is DC, inverter is a waste.
> So is there anything like a "DC UPS" that can supply 9V DC that can be
> directly connected to the router. It will be really good if such thing
> exists.
The specifications are not complete. What are
- Input ratings?
- Current rating (500 mA, 750 mA, 1 A, etc.)
- Wattage (.5 W, 1 W, etc.)

Seems like you are look for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter

> Not much luck searching around on the web (particularly, the item should
> be purchasable from a reliable source in India.)

You may like to check

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=12+v+to+9+v+dc+converter
http://www.mansipower.in/product_info.php?PID=11

HTH.

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Re: [PLUG] ftp server with whom Windows ftp client would work

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On 31/07/13 3:29 PM, Mayuresh wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:11:55PM +0530, ? wrote:
>> ===
>> $ ftp
>> ftp> passive
>> Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off.
>> ftp> passive
>> Passive mode: on; fallback to active mode: on.
>> ===
> I get "command not found" for passive. This is default client on Windows
> XP.
Example was w.r.t. linux.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+ftp+passive

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Re: [PLUG] [OT] UPS for a router

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I have not tried things suggested, but they should work.

It would be useful to know the answers for following question:
What is the input and output ratings (voltage, current) of power adapter
of the wifi routers?

Useful URLs:
http://www.eleccircuit.com/regulator-5v6v9v12v-1a-by-ic-7805780678097812/
http://www.taydaelectronics.com/datasheets/A-207.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Power-Adapter-12V-1000mA/dp/B000H7VCVW/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_battery


Reply inline.


On 04/08/13 3:05 PM, Mayuresh wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:23:42PM +0530, ? wrote:
>
>> What is compact according to you? 1cm x 1 cm x 1cm or 10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm.
> Well, I don't mind these dimensions...
>
> I am struggling to find a product in the this class in the first place.
> It's a question of making do with what is available than looking for
> certain specifications.

Battery dimensions (http://www.whitedogbatteries.com/batspecs.htm)
For 3 A/hr
11.4 cm x 7.1 cm x 8.6 cm

You may also think of using the battery from your UPS directly (without
converting it to AC).
It could be more efficient.

Voltage regulators:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/78xx
http://www.recom-international.com/pdf/Innoline/R-78xx-1.0.pdf


>> Can you share the details of the battery powered router which you are
>> using? By performance,
>> what do you mean? Speed is not as expected? Connectivity keeps dropping?
>> etc.
> I wrote a separate thread in PLUG on my experiences with Lava W150 as
> against my older Linksys WRT54GL. Difficult to summarize though following
> are some of the points:
>
> All problems are on intranet with 3G modem and ISP not in picture at all
>
> - Packet loss up to 30%
> - Arbitrarily refusing to connect (ping/ssh/whatever) with another device.
>   With nothing specifically done, letting connect after some time.
> - Limited range. (Sorry, I'm not going to measure and tell.)
> - I worked around these by using WRT54GL as a repeater bridge of W150

You can use the router which you prefer; using battery+dc voltage
regulator as per the
specifications of router.

>> Seems like you are look for
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-to-DC_converter
> Not at all. I think I clarified in a couple of posts before. I am looking
> for a battery backed up DC supply (sort of UPS minus inverter) and if that
> is not available a miniature UPS (1mm x 1mm x 1mm most welcome!).
Interesting read regarding battery capacities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_%28electricity%29#Fast-charging.2C_large_and_light_batteries

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Re: [PLUG] [confirmation] Monthly PLUG meet on 14th Sept. 2013

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On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Manjusha Joshi
 wrote:
> Correction in topic 1) -  PGP key signing party

First email was correct and relevant to the list. :)
Its GnuPG. Not PGP.

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Manjusha Joshi
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please note that Monthly PLUG meeting for Month of September will be held
>> at 14th September, Saturday at 4pm in SICSR.
>>
>>
>>  Location: SICSR, Atur Centre, Model Colony, Pune
>> Room No 704, 7th floor ( room no. may change )
>>
>> Time: 4:00 pm
>>
>>   Agenda:
>>
>>  1) gpg key singing party:
>>  GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG or GPG) is a GPL Licensed <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License> alternative to
>> the PGP  suite of
>> cryptographic  software.
>> GnuPG is compliant with RFC 4880 ,
>> which is the current IETF <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Engineering_Task_Force> standards
>> track specification of OpenPGP .
>> Current versions of PGP (and Veridis' Filecrypt) are interoperable <
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoperability> with GnuPG and other
>> OpenPGP-compliant systems.
>>
>>  2) QA session.
>> You can discuss about on going efforts at different places /levels
>> for popularization of FOSS. Share your experience about it.
>>
>> You can discuss about conducting some program based on FOSS technology
>> at your college/ place.
>>
>> You can share your experiences about new Distributions, hardware
>> compatibility issues etc.
>>
>> One  can exchange CDs, DVDs of new versions.
>>
>> All are welcome to attend the meeting.
>> There is no fee to attend the meeting.
>> See you there.
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Manjusha Joshi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Please note that Monthly PLUG meeting for Month of September will be held
>>> at 14 th September, Saturday  instead of 7th September.
>>>
>>> Please note  the date.
>>>
>>> Venue: SICSR, 7th floor
>>> Time: 4 pm
>>>
>>>
>>> Details of the meeting will be announce shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PLUG] Online storage options?

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+++ Mayuresh [17-Nov-2013 20:51 +0530]
| Looking for online storage options with following perspective:
| 
| - Main purpose - backup.
| 
| - For use with Linux / NetBSD, preferably NFS mountable, less preferably
|   sshfs mountable or at least rsync-able.
| 
| - Sharing contents with others over internet is NOT my requirement
| 
| - Connectivity with mobile devices (or platforms like Android) is NOT a
|   requirement.
| 
| - Plain simple storage service. No bells and whistles like webui, drag and
|   drop and all that is necessary.

I suppose most of the services have API or FUSE or WebDAV export.

| (For above 3 points, if they just come with a service, I won't reject the
| service for that. Just that I don't need them.)
| 
| - Reliable uptime. Will be synced at least daily.

Following backup services may be useful.

- - https://www.dropbox.com/ (API: https://www.dropbox.com/developers)
- - https://app.box.com/ (supports WebDAV, API: http://developers.box.com/)
- - http://copy.com/ (API: https://www.copy.com/developer)
- - http://spideroak.com/ (API: https://spideroak.com/code)
- - https://cloud.google.com/products/cloud-storage (API:
  https://developers.google.com/storage/index)

| - (Storage level) encryption necessary: May have sensitive contents.

spideroak - https://spideroak.com/privacypost/
For other services you may have to do the encryption at your end.

| - Free/paid, both ok. I'll assess price suitability separately.
| 
| - I haven't arrived at exact space requirements. Roughly it might begin
|   with say 10 GB and may grow in future.
| 
| - Preferably some time trusted service or a brand that can be trusted for
|   A. data security and B. will last long.
| 
| Hope this is not too much to ask for and such services are available.

If you want to write your own backup service:
- - http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/files/
- - https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/


Some other useful links:
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
http://backupsy.com/

HTH.

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Re: [PLUG] tor browser

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On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Vikas Tara  wrote:
> On 12/08/15 13:57, ThinRhino wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yes it can make you anonymous, but there are also known flaws and
>>> > weaknesses
>>> >that can be exploited.
>>> >
>>> >The Tor browser is probably even worse as known exploits in the browser
>>> >bundle have already been used to defeat anonymity.
>>
>> Can you point to any links to news reports on browser exploits.
>
> https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2013-1690
>
> was apparently used for exactly this purpose.
>
> https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2013/08/07/heres-that-fbi-firefox-exploit-for-you-cve-2013-1690
>

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Re: [PLUG] [xpost] Cloudflare announces DNS Resolver 1.1.1.1 (on 4/1)

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Looks like 139.59.23.241 (NIC's opennic) which has 34.113 ms response
time is better than 8.8.8.8 (google) which has 70.512 ms response time
is better than 1.1.1.1 (cloudflare) which has 73.364 ms response time.

$ ping -c 5 139.59.23.241
PING 139.59.23.241 (139.59.23.241): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 139.59.23.241: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=33.574 ms
64 bytes from 139.59.23.241: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=35.030 ms
64 bytes from 139.59.23.241: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=33.392 ms
64 bytes from 139.59.23.241: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=32.447 ms
64 bytes from 139.59.23.241: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=36.122 ms

--- 139.59.23.241 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 32.447/34.113/36.122/1.301 ms


$ ping -c 5 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=46 time=68.970 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=70.793 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=75.928 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=68.875 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=67.993 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 67.993/70.512/75.928/2.857 ms


$ ping -c 5 1.1.1.1
PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=75.831 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=74.279 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=73.743 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=71.254 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=71.711 ms

--- 1.1.1.1 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 71.254/73.364/75.831/1.688 ms

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Gaurav Pant  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:45 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Cloudflare announces public DNS servers 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 on 4/1 (April
>>> 1).
>>>
>>> NO -- it’s not an April Fool’s joke.   Scroll down to the end of the blog.
>>
>>
>> Looks like one :) tried to ping 1.1.1.1 no reply.
>>
>
> Ping response is not necessarily a good test.  After all, many servers
> are configured to drop ICMP echo request to avoid DDoS.
>
> Try:
>
>  host www.google.com 1.1.1.1
>
> and you will get a response (see below).
>
> Using domain server:
> Name: 1.1.1.1
> Address: 1.1.1.1#53
> Aliases:
>
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.99
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.103
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.104
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.105
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.106
> www.google.com has address 172.217.194.147
> www.google.com has IPv6 address 2404:6800:4003:c00::6a
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Re: [PLUG] [xpost] Cloudflare announces DNS Resolver 1.1.1.1 (on 4/1)

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:39 PM, Dhanesh B. Sabane
 wrote:
> At bottom:-
>
> On Tuesday 03 April 2018 03:55 PM, शंतनू wrote:
>> Looks like 139.59.23.241 (NIC's opennic) which has 34.113 ms response
>> time is better than 8.8.8.8 (google) which has 70.512 ms response time
>> is better than 1.1.1.1 (cloudflare) which has 73.364 ms response time.
>>
>
> There's a post on Medium [1] which compares the performance of DNS
> Resolvers and CloudFlare comes up to be the winner in almost all the
> test cases.
>
> [1]
> https://medium.com/@nykolas.z/dns-resolvers-performance-compared-cloudflare-x-google-x-quad9-x-opendns-149e803734e5
>



Tried https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest.

$ bash ./dnstest.sh
  test1   test2   test3   test4   test5   test6
test7   test8   test9   test10  Average
209.222.18.222283 ms  1000 ms 267 ms  357 ms  264 ms  264 ms  1000
ms 266 ms  272 ms  267 ms424.00
209.222.18.218278 ms  268 ms  317 ms  1000 ms 269 ms  1000 ms 277
ms  259 ms  259 ms  1000 ms   492.70
cloudflare73 ms   75 ms   76 ms   73 ms   72 ms   1000 ms 77
ms   72 ms   75 ms   78 ms 167.10
google79 ms   63 ms   62 ms   74 ms   78 ms   427 ms  60
ms   74 ms   80 ms   84 ms 108.10
quad9 74 ms   65 ms   66 ms   67 ms   70 ms   65 ms   66
ms   66 ms   67 ms   65 ms 67.10
opendns   177 ms  67 ms   63 ms   62 ms   117 ms  258 ms  80
ms   127 ms  171 ms  62 ms 118.40
norton64 ms   59 ms   60 ms   59 ms   61 ms   64 ms   61
ms   60 ms   63 ms   66 ms 61.70
cleanbrowsing 71 ms   69 ms   124 ms  81 ms   67 ms   66 ms   68
ms   72 ms   68 ms   67 ms 75.30
yandex151 ms  195 ms  152 ms  169 ms  1000 ms 260 ms  170
ms  155 ms  155 ms  191 ms259.80
adguard   1000 ms 171 ms  156 ms  155 ms  158 ms  169 ms  170
ms  165 ms  158 ms  161 ms246.30
neustar   223 ms  218 ms  240 ms  287 ms  287 ms  216 ms  220
ms  322 ms  1000 ms 315 ms332.80
comodo145 ms  140 ms  138 ms  140 ms  145 ms  140 ms  145
ms  136 ms  140 ms  140 ms140.90
opennic   63 ms   62 ms   61 ms   62 ms   74 ms   75 ms   64
ms   66 ms   65 ms   61 ms 65.30
localhost 1 ms1 ms1 ms1 ms44 ms   1 ms34
ms   1 ms1 ms38 ms 12.30

opennic is 139.59.23.241
localhost is dnsmasq server running locally. BYOD...Bring Your Own DNS ;)

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Re: [PLUG] KMail messup!!

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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:11 PM, ഓം <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have now become aware of what needs to be done to fix the problem...

Please share the solution.

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Re: [PLUG] email server

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Rajiv Gore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 23 July 2008 14:03, yogesh desai wrote:
> > . Create local users and real user mapping  in fetchmail script.
> >
> > :) Yoges
> Thanks but can you give some more info on  real user mapping in fetchmail
> script.
> I have working SAMBA. Will Win NT and 98 which uses Out look fetch mail from
> my Suse Box?
> Thanks for help.
> Regards

POP3/IMAP --- dovecot
SMTP --- postfix

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Re: [PLUG] CVS question

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you can try tortise cvs client. it may have cli.

On 9/13/08, Omkar Raut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wondering if there is a native command line CVS.exe for windows xp?
> Because I could not find SHELL in eclipse... for issuing cvs commands
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Mayuresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > Is there any way to get the Directory structure of CVS repository in
>> > some
>> > text format? Basically I want to retrieve the list of files in a tree
>>
>> If you have read access to repository location, you can get it from there.
>> But
>> not advisable to do that. Only other option could be to actually check out
>> the code and extract the strucure using a script (or extend CVS code to
>> provide suitable command!).
>>
>> Mayuresh.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] CVS question

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On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Atul Nene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 18:46, शंतनू (Shantanoo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> you can try tortise cvs client. it may have cli.
>
> Tortoise is implemented as a shell extension only. No cli.
> More at http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
>
> abhivaadanam,
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on STFW for 'cvs cli for windows', the first link is
'http://clockwerx.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-use-cvs-from-command-line-in.html'
which points to http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/#downloading

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Re: [PLUG] plug in list

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Hi Ekta,
You can post the job requirements on the list directly.

From: http://plug.org.in/mailinglist.php
Commercial postings and Job Offerings clearly related to Linux are
allowed, provided they have a "[COMMERCIAL]" tag in the subject line
of the mail.

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> HI Shantanoo,
>  Thanks for replying the mail if you could help me how excatly I Can get the
> list, the reason i want this list is because our company has job requirement 
> , we
> need people who have work experience
> Linux servers ,hosting etc...
> it is am urgent requirement
>
> Thanks
> Ekta Kashyap
> MIS BPO
> On Fri 07/11/08 10:17AM , "शंतनू (Shantanoo)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
> > Hi Ekta,
> > Please feel free to ask the mailing list subscribers to give you the
> > list. Also, can you share the purpose of asking this information?
> > (More people may respond to the email).
> >
> > regards,
> > shanatanoo
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM,   wrote:
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Re: [PLUG] plug in list

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Hi Ekta,
Please feel free to ask the mailing list subscribers to give you the list.
Also, can you share the purpose of asking this information? (More people may
respond to the email).

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Re: [PLUG] Query about message awaiting moderator approval - Size related

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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:53, Mandar Vaze  wrote:

> Can someone explain me the following message ?
>
> "Message body is too big: 15706 bytes with a limit of 5 KB"
>
> Does this mean the email size is total of 5KB*+*  15706 bytes (Thus being
> "too big") ?
> I had inline copied the grub menu.lst file and (4 line) output of "sudo
> fdisk -lu" so that others can help me better.
>
> Do you think it will cause the email body to grow beyond 5KB ?
>

You can post grub's menu.lst on http://pastebin.com/ and put the link in the
email.

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Re: [PLUG] Any open-source software for documentation.

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Mandar Vaze wrote:
> Sorry for a small hijack - :)
>
> I do not know of any such tool, but I see two hurdles
> 1. Wiki contents, as you pointed out, are very informal/unstructured. So the
> contents might not be of the quality needed for production-ready document
>
You can consider wiki similar to garden. You need gardener to maintain 
it properly. To remove orphan pages, add proper cross-references etc. In 
absence of gardener, the wiki may grow wild and may not be much useful 
(maybe it can be nuisance to fix it).


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Re: [PLUG] 30 May Gmail deadline : what should mutt users do?

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Reply inline.

On Sun, 01-May-2022 at 16:16:15 IST, Mayuresh via plug-mail wrote:
> In light of the following message from Google:
> 
> "To help keep your account secure, starting May 30, 2022, Google will
> no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you
> to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and
> password"
> 
> what should mutt (and alike) users do? If I am using the so called "device
> specific password" will it still be affected?

AFAIU, there would there would be any change for 'device specific
passwords'. Also, if you are using 2FA, sign in using google account
credentials is already disabled.

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Re: [PLUG] test mail

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Yet another response for test email.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 8:22 AM Amey Abhyankar  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 19 December 2020, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  
> wrote:
>>
>> Test mail to check if mailing is fixed
>> please acknowledge
>>
>
> Got it thanks.
> Let me resend my Friday's email again to ML :-)
>>
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Re: [PLUG] mDNS vulnerability issue in CentOS 8.3

[शंतनू via plug-mail]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:48 AM Amey Abhyankar via plug-mail <
plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Anybody knows if this service is bind to Avahi domain or it's a part
> of dnsmasq service?
>
>
Try running

netstat -tunlp | grep 5353

Last column is PID/Program. It might help in getting the details.

Another option, stop dnsmasq and check with netstat again.
(You might want to have a look at lsof command)


> The VAPT [1] report indicates that port 5353 (UDP) on my CentOS 8.3 is
> vulnerable.
>

How did you run the VAPT test? From a remote machine, another machine on
the intranet or from the internet?


> If I do netstat, nothing is listening on this port.
> if I search by the mDNS hostname on /, no results.
> I do not have the mDNS entry in my /etc/hosts
>
> Regards,
> Amey.
>
> [1] VAPT = Vulnerability assessment & penetration testing
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