Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: > Is he one of the moderators/admins/power-to-be ? I don't think so. > > I almost never understand his emails (May be problem lies with me) but I am > certain that that 99% of his emails are NEVER ABOUT LINUX !!! (May be that > is why I don't understand his emails) > Ditto here. IIRC, there was another member with a handle "vi guru" or something like that with a similar writing style. Maybe they are the same person. > A while ago, there was a big discussion about "strict" moderation of this > list, yet such "not related to linux and hard to understand" emails are > allowed. > I believe a lot of those filters have been disabled and thus one does not see those dreaded "Your message is waiting in moderatore queue." I personally do not want that back. > Is this time to "vote" about what is allowed and what is NOT, on this > mailing list ? This is a mailing list about everything FOSS. IMHO, it would be hard to define what is allowed and not allowed and then who is going to police it? As long as there is no profanity, or derogatory statements etc., it would be hard to deny posting.The message volume is low. As Darth has suggested; add unwanted subject headers to your kill filter. -- Arun Khan ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 1:26:24 PM Arun Khan wrote: > As Darth has suggested; add unwanted subject headers to your kill filter. > Tolerance of mind and thought is definitely not a virtue, even if it is so, it can also be inculcated with practice. Now what one wants to practice and does not want to adhere to, is one's choice... By exercising your choice, you are acting, the question is "on behalf of whom?" Just be patient, this ghost, the ghost of ignorance, is going to climb down right in front of your very eyes on your own mailing list... -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 1:26:24 PM Arun Khan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे Let us disect the problem as if we are solving some code (may be a psedo code) and help all understand if there is actually a problem, and if so where that could be... Observations: 1. Darth did not suggest "kill" filters, he just advised to use filters. 2. Arun added the work kill, as his own work of art. 3. Arun Khan email id is knura9. 4. महासागर's email if o.s.h.o 5. In o.s.h.o, the first and forth characters are same. 6. In arun Khan's email id, last character is 9 while his email ID is a crypt of his own name. 7. Whos is fault for issuing the word KILL? This is not an answer, but a question based on all the observation one to six...!!! 8. And there could be more of such which others can see by careful scrutiny of mailing list communications. -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Nirmalya Lahiri wrote: > I know one person who is using 4G at Kolkata. He is getting avarage 12Mbps > speed. > Any first hand experience of 4G in Pune ? -Mandar ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 5:10:19 PM Shirish Padalkar wrote: > I share the same feeling as Mandar. I already sent a private message > to म.हा.सा.ग.र , but he made it public to mailing list, which in my > opinion is unfortunate. > @Arun, sadly, my replies to the mailing list are still getting "your > message is pending approval". :( > With regards, > Shirish Padalkar > http://twitter.com/_Garbage_ > When replying personally to an address (harvested) from public mailing list, a customary permission to speak, i.e. communicate personally, is sought before "advising anything" in private. This is what they don't teach you as a mailing list etiquette, neither it is (probably) part of netiquette. That was a real big mistake. The rest is found by reading the signature at the end of this message. Unfortunately you are fortunate enough to get your messages moderated. I do not have that luxury anymore :-) -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] for information of honourable plug mailing list members, and administrators!!!
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [PLUG] Permission deny-ed Date: Sunday 07 Apr 2013, 9:17:13 AM From: Shirish Padalkar To: o.s@guruvision.com, Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Hi, I am sorry if you (Mahasagar?) are offended by my email. And sorry other PLUG members for the spam below: The email was sent directly to you and not on the PLUG list. I joined the list, so that I can continue learning what is happening in PLUG, even if I am unable to attend the PLUG meetings. And anything which doesn't talk about PLUG on PLUG mailing list is a spam for me. Correct me if I am wrong. In one of the earlier emails, when Arun Bhat asked permission to attend the meeting, and Manjusha replied "it is open to all", I think everybody got her point. I personally don't think it was necessary to give "english gyan" to all the people in PLUG mailing list. At least, IMO, that's spam! I apologize if you think I offended you, but I used my "freedom to express my feelings", and I did NOT use PLUG mailing list for it earlier. With regards, Shirish Padalkar http://twitter.com/_Garbage_ If any of you felt offended, you may accept his apology, I was not offended so there is no need for me to accept his apology. Usually Your and Only Occasionally Selfishly Mine, The Understated... and of-course, Over-estimated -- Teacher: 2 Teach is 2 Err, 2 Err is Human, Forgive Divine...! विद्या धनं एव धनं प्रधानम् ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 6:07:19 PM Shirish Padalkar wrote: > Hi, > I don't think advising anything or suggesting anything on your > behavior should be called out in public directly. That is the reason I > send the email to you and not the list. And BTW, don't you think > "harvested" is a bit harsh word, considering your email is always > visible when you are posting to mailing list? > If you think I should have questioned your behavior publicly before > talking to you privately, I am sorry. Also probably using my twitter > username to "describe" my intentions than trying to understand is part > of netiquette which I am not aware of. > Finally, I don't think there is any more point arguing with you on > this point on a public mailing list and spamming the list, so I will > just shut up and you can have your way. Enjoy! :) It would have been a great example, if you had actually behaved the way you intended to be, instead of telling me what you are going to do now! केल्याने होत आहे रे, आधी केलेच पाहिजे અસે કાહિતરી કુઠેતરી વાચલ્યાચે આઠવતે... વિવેકાનંદાંચ્યા છાતાડાવર રામકઋષ્ણાંની પાય દિલ્યાવર તે કાય ઓરડલે તવઢે જરી ખબર અસલે તરી ઉત્તમ...!!! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
> > केल्याने होत आहे रे, आधी केलेच पाहिजे અસે કાહિતરી કુઠેતરી વાચલ્યાચે > આઠવતે... > વિવેકાનંદાંચ્યા છાતાડાવર રામકઋષ્ણાંની પાય દિલ્યાવર તે કાય ઓરડલે તવઢે જરી > ખબર અસલે તરી ઉત્તમ...!!! > I didn't realize that this mailing list was intended ONLY for those who can read Devanagari and understand Marathi -Mandar ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 9:54:23 PM Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: केल्याने होत आहे रे, आधी केलेच पाहिजे અસે કાહિતરી કુઠેતરી વાચલ્યાચે આઠવતે... વિવેકાનંદાંચ્યા છાતાડાવર રામકઋષ્ણાંની પાય દિલ્યાવર તે કાય ઓરડલે તવઢે જરી ખબર અસલે તરી ઉત્તમ...!!! I didn't realize that this mailing list was intended ONLY for those who can read Devanagari and understand Marathi -Mandar If you have at-least now realised that it is ALSO intended for them, then it is alright, else problem still exists! -- Teaching and Cheating both have same characters reassembled, hence both are scrutinized by careful eyes... A headline of देवनागरी is unfortunately the bottomline when written in this language, and thus it gets called underscore, maynot be the only reason for getting recognized this way, and I may not learned enough to start an argument on that! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
Hello All, This issue is getting UN-necessary publicity... Lets not waste our time in anything other that Linux &/OR Open Source. I know moderators are wise enough to take decisions if things are going of track.. As long as discussions are not offensive it does not make sense to take any strict actions. Still I hope someone from moderators know actual existence of म.हा.सा.ग.र, if not, म.हा.सा.ग.र you can at least reveal your identity and the purpose of joining this mailing list, because neither your emails nor name/email id give any clue about it. People would really appreciate to know about the person(Guru) spreading this wisdom(Vision). Regards, Dnyanraj http://dnyanrajmali.blogspot.com 2013/4/7 Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे > > > > केल्याने होत आहे रे, आधी केलेच पाहिजे અસે કાહિતરી કુઠેતરી વાચલ્યાચે > > આઠવતે... > > વિવેકાનંદાંચ્યા છાતાડાવર રામકઋષ્ણાંની પાય દિલ્યાવર તે કાય ઓરડલે તવઢે જરી > > ખબર અસલે તરી ઉત્તમ...!!! > > > > I didn't realize that this mailing list was intended ONLY for those who can > read Devanagari and understand Marathi > > -Mandar > ___ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On Sunday 07 Apr 2013 11:20:42 PM Dnyanraj Mali wrote: Your suggestion is highly welcome. Just in case my identity is not known, don't worry too much, it is be best described in this link... http://aathavanitli-gani.com/Song/Bin_Bhintichi_Ughadi Don't want you to unnecessarily tax the moderators. Hence I resign, that's called revealing! EOT (that is not usual End of Transmission, rather it is End of Thread, for me) दोरा संपला! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Google Summer Of Code
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Nehal Tanna wrote: > > I am Nehal Tanna, pursuing MSc(CA) from SICSR. Currently I'm in last sem of > academic. As you know Google Summer Of Code 2013 has been announced. I > would like to participate this time. Can anyone please suggest me any contact person who is associated with this > event or a part of participating mentioning organisation? I would like to > contribute to any open source project by being a part of this event. Any > help will be highly appreciated. > Hey Nehal, I think you should hurry up!!! 1. Firstly you should go through this[1] and then select an organization suiting to your skills and interest. 2. After that you should check their mailing lists and start inquiring in these lists. 3. Also check for their irc channels and try to find out the developers and the people concerned with a particular project. 4. Organizations typically have a list of projects they want people to work via GSoC. find these list and select a project. 5. After that try understanding the project and read as much as you can about it. 6. Talk to developers before submitting a proposal that's how you get selected in the first place. good luck any more queries feel free to ask. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 ashish singh pune, India ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts?
On 06-04-2013 09:02, Mayuresh wrote: My overall impression is wireless (3G/CDMA) plans and QoS are not yet comparable with wired connections. If they become so, I'll be happy to get rid of wired connection mess. Considering the same level of communication algorithms, encoding and error correction techniques being available for both - the wired being a guided and protected medium (protected from external interferences) will always remain better than wireless i.e. unguided and unprotected medium, basic laws of physics will not change. Moreover, the energy required to push one bit information over the protected medium is also therefore much much less and that affects the efficiency and costs involved for the service provider. Both high energy GSM and CDMA are anti-environment and anti-economy too, as they burn the subsidized diesel. Check out the FTTH from BSNL. Now they offer the same ADSL Broadband tariffs for FTTH. with Regards, Ashwin ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Who is म.हा.सा.ग.र ?
On 06-04-2013 16:40, म.हा.सा.ग.र wrote: On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 1:46:14 PM Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: Is he one of the moderators/admins/power-to-be ? I almost never understand his emails (May be problem lies with me) but I am certain that that 99% of his emails are NEVER ABOUT LINUX !!! (May be that is why I don't understand his emails) That is almost like saying, I do not know what is philosophy so leave (give?) me alone.. AND that, I think is definitely easier than understanding M&AR Initially there were dos doors only until the advent of animal called Linux, that is when people realised that we need GNU's NOT too!!! Enjoy! So just to understand better - Linux discussions are limited to Linux kernel and internals? Anything else is OT? with Regards, Ashwin ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts?
I know one person who is using 4G at Kolkata. He is getting avarage 12Mbps speed. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts?
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:36:01PM +0530, Ashwin wrote: > On 06-04-2013 09:02, Mayuresh wrote: > >My overall impression is wireless (3G/CDMA) plans and QoS are not yet > >comparable with wired connections. If they become so, I'll be happy to get > >rid of wired connection mess. > Considering the same level of communication algorithms, encoding and > error correction techniques being available for both - the wired > being a guided and protected medium (protected from external > interferences) will always remain better than wireless i.e. unguided It's alright that for higher bandwidths wired will remain a better medium. For personal use I am content with less than 1mbps (say 512-750kbps etc) as long as it is consistent. I think wireless should be capable of providing that much of speed reliably. They advertise speeds "up to" 3.1mbps (CDMA) and 7.1mbps (3G), though one doesn't even get 50kbps reliably - at least so with bsnl 3g. (Haven't tried others.) I think it's due to indiscriminately adding customers without capacity planning or any control on QoS on the ISP's part. Mayuresh ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts?
On Monday, April 08, 2013 08:07:08 AM Mayuresh wrote: > It's alright that for higher bandwidths wired will remain a better medium. > > For personal use I am content with less than 1mbps (say 512-750kbps etc) > as long as it is consistent. I think its a coverage issue. In some areas it is consistently good.. in some areas.. consistently bad.. If the ISPs would just collaborate on a backbone, things could improve a lot.. That goes for cellphone coverage as well.. > I think wireless should be capable of providing that much of speed > reliably. They advertise speeds "up to" 3.1mbps (CDMA) and 7.1mbps (3G), > though one doesn't even get 50kbps reliably - at least so with bsnl 3g. > (Haven't tried others.) > > I think it's due to indiscriminately adding customers without capacity > planning or any control on QoS on the ISP's part. I would say that applies to wired connection as well, albeit in some different aspects.. -- Regards Shridhar ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
