Re: [PLUG] kernel panic problem
paavan shah wrote: hello all!! I have just joined this group. Well i have a machine with mandrake 9.1 installed with kernel 2.4.21. After installation it was working properly.But one day suddenly at boot time it gave following message: mount error 6:ext3 flags kernel panic:No init found.try passing init= option to the kernel. When did this error started coming up. Maybe some details leading up to this situation help. Did u upgrade your kernel? changed the partition structure, changed bootloader config? Installed a new package or OS? Can you boot in rescue mode using a rescue CD? //Saurabh -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] 2 suggestions PLUG
Like mots of the other threads on PLUG, this is alo leading to nowhere. To be very true i donot disagree with AG. I wanted to take this up sometime. Rather than going deep in thread and answering the posts that talk abt nuthing good i will stick to the original issue raised in first mail. Note : My views are totally mine and everyone has a right to disagree with these. I think there some basic rules a person should follow(be he l33t or novice). L33ts: 1. IF you thing a post is rediculous, dont answer the post, just for the heck of doing it. It is better to ignore it. This kind of posts include for which the answer should be RTFM. Stick to it and keep you inbox clean. 2. Try to stick to the original issue in the posts. If a post is going too much away from the topic, Modrators please lock the topic. 3. Helping a newbie is a nobel job. Think of him as a person who is willing to learn. who has chosen to choose. He is at a stage where you were 2-3 years before.He has taken an initiative, lets try to help him. I know sometimes the answer to the question he has asked is very simple. But he actually DIDNOT KNEW that. Answer his question, and give him a way to solve his problems. Novice : 1. You have a problem, google has a solution. Try googling, before asking the questions. 2. Nobody knew linux when he was born. Everyone has learnt it the hard way. Everone faced the problems, but the victory is in sorting it out and not to give up. Be it windows or be it linux, both have a unique domain of problem sets. But the solutions to linux problems are more logical and sensible (This is pretty much true, in windows sometime the only solution is rebooting without any logic). Linux is more about logic and how things work. You have a problem, sit back think how the process is done and where the problem could be. Solving linux problems by yourself is probably the best way to learn it. 3. Linux is not about cramming or knowing commands. Never CRAM linux command for doing certain operations, you will fall flat. You dont ever need to learn all the command options, there is a "man" to help you out. just my $0.02 On 8/13/05, Sagar Gokhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know that messages get rejected just because the reply starts at the > > > > top rather than *after* the original post (which in itself is > > > > ridiculous rule, but I respect it none-the-less) > > > > > > Why is it ridiculous ? > > > > because most standard mail clients, like outlook as well as gmail, > > start the editing on top of the original email. > Really bad excuse for not following rules. > > because people start writing and reading from top to bottom. > The arguement in fact emphasizes bottom posting. Doesn't it make more > sense to read the oldest content first to the most recent content > (therefore, in the right chronological order) ? > > > I think we might be loosing (possiblly technically) good people's help > > due to 'ridiculous' rules. > Most people who know a lot about stuff also know and follow usenet > posting etiquette. > > > > > I also said that although I personally don't like the rule, I'm > > abiding by it. BTW, I didn't mean the rule is ridiculous, but the fact > > that message gets rejected, is ridiculous. > > > > Are you moderator , who made this rule ? > No, he did not make this rule. I'm sure this link has been posted here > a bazillion times, but here it is again. > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html > > > I can guess why this rule might have been put in place, i guess that > > for people who read mail archives, it makes sense to read the context > > first and *then* the reply, but I'm guessing that that number would be > > fewer than regular members who have read the original query already. > > As for the "regular members who've read the original query", no one > has time to go through each email every day. Generally, while reading > threads, it is quite useful to ignore earlier mails in a long thread > and directly read some later email in which case, it is very useful to > have some context to work off. > > ~sagar > > -- > Sagar Gokhale > > -- > __ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) > List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail > Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. > -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] What is wrong and what we need tp know.
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:26:20 +0530 From: Manas Alekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PLUG] What is wrong and what we need tp know. To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello All! This is Manas Alekar. I have been on the PLUG list for some time now. I have been following lots of mail about mailing etiquette and behaviour of people on the mailing list in general. There are some misunderstandings on this list which are leading to waste of a lot of bandwidth at all our places. The battle seems to be between two factions, the 'power users' and the 'newbies'. I am firmly entrenched in between both camps :). I AM HAPPY THAT,YOU HAVE FRAMED THE PROBLEM CORRECTLY. IF YOU DONT MIND,I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMEMORE TO IT. The newbies seem to complain all the time that; 1. There is too much RTFM. 2. The big boys are rude. 3. The answers are not much help except people proving they are smart. THESE POINTS OF NEWBIES ARE RIGHT. Thinking from the point of a newbie, I agree, that undertones such an attitude might seem present in the mails of some of the people. EXPERTS SIDE IS NOT ALL THAT CONVINCING. The experts always complain that; 1. The newbies don't do their homework. YOUR DEFINATION OF HOMEWORK MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF NEWBIES. 2. The newbies don't know how to ask (which is just [1] in the first place). SO THEY ARE CALLED AS NEWBIES. 3. We got RTFM at some point in past, and we did not mind it! SOMEONE HAS TO STOP THE RAGGING CYCLE.[WHY NOT WE?] The saddest part of the story is that they seem to be correct in their own rights too. I BEG TO DISAGREE. I have a slightly different take on this though. This looks more to me like a problem of newbies are from Mars, experts are from Venus. We seem to speak different languages. It is important for the newbies to understand that every community has a way of functioning. The rules that govern the behaviour mandated from it's members are not born out of whimsical personal fancies, but out of evolution. They help the community flourish and be efficient. A lot has been learnt from experience and some axioms are best followed rather than questioned. Bottom posting in mailing lists and being polite are two such examples. The abstraction from human interface that the Internet provides should not be abused. Talk to people on the list the way you would talk to them in person. Realise that most people could be your father's age or way more adept at things being discussed than you are. It is not *cool* to be abusive. Full stop. Secondly, it is really unfair to ask a question just because you were too tired to look for an answer yourself. SO CALLED EXPERTS ALSO ASK QUESTIONS WHICH MORE EXPERTS CAN SAY RTM. **I INSIST ON RTM**. Although I agree that collective experience should be made useful to the members of the community, in communities like ours, it is not exactly appreciated if you ask for help without trying yourself first. In other communities, such behavioral patterns might get characterised as *looser*. That said, there is one more very important thing that people need to understand. RTFM _is not_ Read The Fucking Manual. It stands for Read The Fine Manual. PLEASE DONT FOOL YOURSELF.[FINE DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING]. Please remember that this is not intended to be derogatory way of looking down upon newbies. It is just a way quick, efficient way for a person who found the relevant information in the manual to tell you that it exists there. It means - "Well, I know that this information is given in the manual. Can you just look it up, so that we can save my time and our bandwidth ?". Don't feel offended at RTFM. Similar is the situation with GG. Lastly, the mailing list admin is our friend. He is here to help us run a more productive list. If you want to take up an issue with him or want to know why your mails are not going through, you can always mail him. It might be a trivial settings mistake which he made by mistake. He is human. As for the experts, can you guys be more humane towards the mortals ? I know newbies waste a lot of your time and ask stupid looking questions, but in forgiving lies greatness. That said, if anyone thinks that they disagree with what I have said, *sod off*. :)) THANKS AGAIN TO PUT THE PROBLEM PROPERLY. I WISH WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL LENGTH DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC IN OUR MONTHLY MEETING AND TRY TO FIND OUT SOME GOLDEN MEAN SOLUTION. Regards, JAYANT Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win attractive prizes. Log on to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructi
[PLUG] FC4
Hello all, I would like to share my experience with FC4. It installs nicely...even with my 4mb graphics. I donot find it any faster than fc3 except for boot up which is faster. The most pleasurable is OO2.0 beta. it is really good and all the chaps developing it should be congratulated. Multimedia support is lagging badly. Fedora is becomming prudish here. Any way for Oo 2.0 I will retain it. Ranjit. p.s it you connect with dialup donot use int config wizard, use kppp direct...otherwise kppp does not work properly later. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] kernel panic problem
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 11:34 +0530, Saurabh Bathe wrote: > paavan shah wrote: > > >hello all!! > > > >I have just joined this group. > >Well i have a machine with mandrake 9.1 installed with kernel 2.4.21. > >After installation it was working properly.But one day suddenly at > >boot time it gave following message: > >mount error 6:ext3 flags > >kernel panic:No init found.try passing init= option to the kernel. I donot have the original post, sorry I will use this thread. In my experience this error occurs only on a corrupt grub. Boot from 1st cd press F1 for more options I think on mdk you type rescue ENTER give it the proper partition command prompt like# grub-install /dev/hda //if you want it on mbr grub-install /dev/fd0 //if you want it on floppy ctr+del+alt ie reboot if no errors reported with previous command. Tell us what happens. Ranjit. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] FC4
Dr Ranjit C Bhonsle wrote: Hello all, I would like to share my experience with FC4. It installs nicely...even with my 4mb graphics. I donot find it any faster than fc3 except for boot up which is faster. The most pleasurable is OO2.0 beta. it is really good and all the chaps developing it should be congratulated. Multimedia support is lagging badly. Fedora is becomming prudish here. Not sure what you mean by multimedia support. Open source codecs like ogg vorbis and theora as well FLAC is supported out of the box. For proprietary codecs, see http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/errata/#sn-why-no-mp3 regards Rahul -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Need 64 bit FC3
Hi all, I need a 64 bit FC3 distro. If anyone has it please mail me offlist. -aditya -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] SATA and 64 bit processor support
Which all distributions have complete native support for SATA and 64 bit processors? Desired 64 bit processors support is for : AMD Athlon 64, AMD Athlon 64 FX, AMD Athlon 64 X2 and AMD Opteron. Also which ones have support for the above mentioned procs and SATA during installation. -- ___ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need 64 bit FC3
On 8/15/05, Aditya Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I need a 64 bit FC3 distro. If anyone has it please mail me offlist. > > -aditya Hmmm. Can provide Ubuntu for AMD Athlon-64. -Sudhanwa > -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] SATA and 64 bit processor support
rahul pardeshi wrote: Which all distributions have complete native support for SATA and 64 bit processors? Desired 64 bit processors support is for : AMD Athlon 64, AMD Athlon 64 FX, AMD Athlon 64 X2 and AMD Opteron. Also which ones have support for the above mentioned procs and SATA during installation. The latest kernel 2.6.x versions should support most of the SATA drives out of the box. Installer support may lag behind in some of the distributions. All the AMD processors are supported as x86_64 in the kernel. A potentially incomplete list here http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=All&origin=All&basedon=All&desktop=All&architecture=x86_64&status=Active Some distributions like Fedora have multi lib capability where 64 bit and 34 bit libs can be mixed while others like say Debian have independant versions regards Rahul -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How does BSNL Dataone (ADSL) work. Originally: Please tell us total cost of BSNL BroadBand
Hi! > Long time back it wasconsidered impossible to get more > than 56kbps speed , How is it possible to get 1Mbps > now by BSNL ? And what about telephone bills ? http://www.bsnl.co.in/faq/faqans.php?paramCategory=Broadband HTH, but do remember to search Internet, at least google, before asking. By not doing that, you are only inviting trouble, such as RTFM. Regards, Kapil -- "The Power to Imagine, is The Power to Create!" -TTux -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
